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I have been DCA’ing into VOO since 2012 and now I’m rich.
VOO Performance Lately / General Investing Approach
After playing options, my net worth is currently 30$
Isn’t concentration actually proven to win over the long term? .
Any advice from experienced investors
At what point is qqqm better than voo for young investors?
What ETFs or Index funds are y’all thinking about bidding on? I really like VOO as a long term play for myself
is this a good growth focused Roth IRA asset allocation?
Questions about my ROTH IRA fee structure / returns
Canadian who has roughly US$30k–$35k for the long term, looking to invest in the market. Unsure of the best long-term "boring" buys that my American friends can recommend. Do ya'll have any suggestions?
Help me find the next stock that will skyrocket 100-fold :)
IRA vs. Taxable Account (Keeping the money in for 20 years).
Built an agent that buys whatever WSB is talking about. It's down 19.2%. Got 3k upvotes on WSB before they deleted it.
I built an agent that buys whatever this sub is talking about. It's down 19.2%.
Does anyone avoid diversification (like me)?
ETF allocation changes due to high valuations
Strategy for entering the market with large lump sum
Strategy for entering the market with large lump sum
Weird question but like, are the majority of financial advisors just scam artists essentially?
Mag 7 already did their 100x (and more). So where does the next trillion-dollar (or multitrillion) company come from?
Gamers here, do you invest in a game company like Nintendo, Sega, etc?
Simple IRA through work and personal Roth IRA (35)
Supposing AI goes up, is AIS ETF a safe choice?
Beginner looking to make my first options trade — how would you approach this?
Equal weight S&P 500 ETF (RSP) for indexing rather than VOO?
Beginner looking to make my first options trade — how would you approach this?
Why are all my individual stocks down but index at ATH?
Rate my Roth IRA split, just opened my account and haven’t put anything in yet, just looking for advice.
LTCG or dividends or cash to pay for big ticket fun?
Can I do multiple Schwab deposits through the year without any issues?
What are your Top ETFs Picks so far this year? Beyond VOO, VT, VXUS?
US market - VOO or CSPX QQQ or CNDX or anything else?
I'm deciding to sell NASA (tema) etf for tax loss harvesting, since I made around $300 in profit so far in 6 months. Should I do it or no? Needed thoughts.
Concentrating positions, not diversifying. Insights from those that have done this?
Thoughts on the "double dipping" portfolio ive been building
Lost some and gained a lot - should I keep going?
For anyone wondering exactly how much QQQ and VOO/SPY actually overlap, here is the math.
21M first-job in CA, USA. Seeking Investment Strategy Review
Tips for novice investor ! Critique is what I’m looking for
Question: How do passive index funds like VTI, VOO, SPY, ETC., work?
Where would you put surprise inheritance money
I have X amount to invest and I need it to triple in 10 years
Lost money trying to be clever when VOO was sitting right there
+206k from two years of VOO and 7 tech stocks. -$200k Loss from one day of Sandisk calls.
I’m going to rebalance my entire portfolio to 80%VOO 20%VUG for a little more growth tilt but I have a question about maintaining that allocation
When I put $5 on a stock I win , put $50 in I lose almost every time.
Revenge traded a NFLX loss into a $700,000 MSFT profit 💰
I wish I never invested into LUNR and NASA. been waiting for a few weeks to sell, but ofcouse dip keeps dipping....
Best Way to Diversify Brokerage vs Roth IRA?
Selling $DRAM (up 13% today), evaluating alternatives.
Chasing the memory stock rally ruined my portfolio. Now I don’t know if my new portfolio will save me or make things worse
Mentions
Definitely, I was just saying that VT has a 35-40% loss in gains of that US over performance. While VOO misses out on 100% of non US over performance.
Best advice I can give you is to be VERY aware of the content and from whom you consume content. Many Bots and People alike reflect narrow, short term views that primarily support their specific objective. Follow people who can consume data from both sides, conduct additional research, form logical opinions... There is a HUGE difference between Trading (extremely short term) and Investing (long term). When you Invest, you have to conduct unbiased research into all aspects of the Companies you uncover. Once found, you have to have conviction in your analysis. When you do, buy and hold them forever. Some that I previously came across 15+ years ago (not recommending in 2026) and began INVESTING in were JPM, Apple, Nextel (now TMUS). VTI, VT or VOO should be 1 fund in any long term investor portfolios (age would dictate weighting bias). These had their ups/downs however their returns have met/exceeded S&P500 return. 3 different sectors but the companies all have solid businesses. We need a new Warren Buffett for this current environment where Private Equity and Tech lead Imaginary (at super inflated levels) valuations and an SEC that let's such companies enter people's IRAs ,401ks... People need to also be similarly aware of WH Administration related changes as they tend to drive short term Market moves (more for Trading). I don't post much at all but saw your opening and thought I would send something.
You want the true secret? But VOO on a regular basis, never sell it. When it’s low and everyone’s afraid, but even more of it. There you go, you have it now. But can you actually do it? Or will you blow up your account trying to get rich quick and trading options
XLK & XLP? XLK & XLI? How are you checking this anyway, are you using some cool mysterious website to show the result against VOO?
Bond yields dropping pretty good today. Down to 5.23 from 5.33. I left cash gang this morning and am hard in GOOG, AAPL, CRWD (bought today), MU (bought today), and VOO (bought today).
I like the Roth idea as well. While those funds are still captured in the trad IRA, RMDs are subject to taxation as ordinary income, even equity growth that in a taxable account would be taxed as a capital gain instead. So VOO in a trad IRA might not be the best asset location. Ironically, you'd do better with CD or bond positions. VOO would be better in a Roth (up market) or taxable (down market) account. My inherited IRA contains a dividend stock, a bunch of CDs, and Treasuries. I always have the coming year's RMD in the sweep account and/or slated to mature when I need it.
HAPPY octoBER! I've lost so much this month, I should have just threw it in VOO long term
You have 10 months of expenses in your HYSA, that’s a bit more than you really need. If you already know you’re behind, then you know some risk is needed to catch up. But you don’t have to stick the HYSA money in an IRA, drop it in a brokerage account in VT or VOO. That way it’s still available if you need it in an emergency. Keep 12-15k in lower risk like SGOV, and the rest in VT or VOO. **If you really want bold lifestyle anectdotes, /r/personalfinance has you covered better than /r/investing**
Age 33, married, Midwest. Dollar net worth is currently right around 1 mil 1/3 is home equity 1/3 readily available stocks (mostly VOO) 1/3 Retirement savings
For a 5-7 year horizon with a set-and-forget mindset, VOO is already the right answer. If you want slightly different exposure, VTI adds small caps, or QQQM tilts toward tech, but neither meaningfully improves on VOO for your goal. What's pushing you away from it?
There are primarily 2 ways to invest. 1. Long term low touch 2. Short term high touch. With VOO you would fall under bucket 1. For those types of investments doing your due diligence and believing in the company you are investing in for long term and then DCA. One thing to note that you bought it at the peak - almost near all time high, I would have waited or found something else which would have either retracted a bit and still had room to grow. But that’s why you have DCA.
SP500 (VOO/SPY) CAGR in past 15 years is higher than its several decades long CAGR, so just something to keep in mind. A difference of 3-4% might not seem like a lot, but compounding over the course of 15 years it turns out to be substantial.
Fantastic. The secret to early retirement has been revealed. All you have to do is buy $50k worth of VOO per year for at least 15 years. Easy peasy!
You do not pay taxes on your VOO every day. Jesus Christ.
>If you were my advisor, what would you tell me? US stocks generally are at one of their highest points in history. you should anticipate high probability of average VOO returns far below average until about 2035 or perhaps 2040. https://www.advisorperspectives.com/images/content_image/data/d2/d2eb1e86ba3492ef907fef2a4da80df1.png diversify globally, and consider adding fixed income into the portfolio.
Oil futures AND QQQ/VOO are up premarket. TLT puts all the way
it's difficult to say anything specific for you, without knowing your age, income, and other variables. but as general advice: - investing in stocks is for long-ish periods of time. the common guideline is to plan on leaving the investment along for ~5 years or more. in the US market, over 90% of 5 year periods will see growth if you ride it out. 5 years is not a guaranteed, but the odds are strongly in your favor. - stocks are not a savings account. you're buying ownership shares in companies, and the prices of those stocks will fluctuate especially in the short-term. - checking your investments every day is a bad idea. get a new hobby. - if you're a long-term investor, downturns or crashes are the best times to buy. everything is on sale. to quote the investor Shelby Cullom Davis: "You make most of your money in a bear market, but you don't realize it at the time." - VOO is US companies, and it's technically ~500 stocks from larger US companies. but the top 30 stocks are over 50% of the index, so it's very concentrated. about 55 cents of every dollar goes to about 35 stocks. the usual advice from most professionals in finance is to invest globally, so you're getting companies and currencies outside the USA. VOO is good as the backbone of your investments, but by itself is probably not optimal over the long-term. >I have this nagging urge of pulling out my money and waiting for a better time define 'better time'.
Honestly 3 month option is kind of a gamble and the whole stock market is kind of a gamble. I created a self learning trading bot and after 6 month of backtesting data on its own, it could only make a 12% return yearly. Basically the AI told me to just invest in VOO because it made a greater return. It learned by itself by looking at all the chart pattern and executing it perfectly. You know why my ai didnt make a huge killing? You want me to explain what the biggest problem was? It was literally order never being filled because someone is trading 1 milliseconds or a few milliseconds faster and stealing all my orders and it won't ever be filled. I got really discouraged and almost stop day trading completely. If a self learning ai with no emotions can only do 12%, what chance do i have with human error.. anyways probably just rambling but food for thought i guess
Probably worse than 100% VOO
40% of VOO is AI companies now. Even Walmart invested heavily into AI. You need to jump on this as soon as you can. It will boom even harder after Anthropic and OpenAI IPO.
VOO has been proven to be unbeatable, so any comments & opinions to the contrary need to be read with a slight chuckle.
Agreed 100%. I recently wrote a post on the Bogleheads forum on 8 investment lessons I learned from Stay Calm by David Booth, founder of the firm Dimensional. One major lesson worth putting here: You’re investing in human ingenuity when you invest in VOO. People see VOO as just a ticker, but it’s really 500 companies filled with thousands of people that are pushing to innovate, make their products better, and climb the corporate ladder. Do you think Apple, Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway, etc. are going to stop trying to grow their businesses? Of course not, they will be worth more in 30 years today. Just commit to the fund and stop checking the market every day. That’s so counterproductive. Leaving the link to the post if anyone wants to check it out. Bit of a long read, but I think it can help new investors: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Bogleheads/s/dDLkKnutcD](https://www.reddit.com/r/Bogleheads/s/dDLkKnutcD)
You are learning that the chill part of VOO and chill is the hardest. Just auto buy VOO with part of your income and don’t look at it. Sell only to pay for urgent things. You are crazy new to the game. You might want to consider using a trustworthy pro. Thinking about this stuff might not be worth your time.
Just stop watching your investment, you have only invested this money for a few days now, this is not a long enough time to see real results. Set the graph to at least 6Months/YTD/1J to see how your stock is actually behaving, you will notice that the little dip you see now will just be a normal fluctuation like any other time, but the stock is still rising. What also might help, compare the YTD/1J graph from VOO with for another ETF, for example IWDA. You will notice that both have gone down, something in the market is happening and not just your stock. It means it is still stable. Invest a little more each month, don't try to time the market, because you can't. Don't look at the drops as a 'bad market' but see them as a 'sales' opportunity, you can buy more stocks even cheaper during those time, I call them discounts! When you buy monthly you will buy sometimes cheaper, sometimes more expensive then what you paid for them now. In the end it will even itself out and your investment will grow. TL;DR: leave it alone for at least a year, if you can, then buy extra during each dip, not at the highest points.
Just buy VOO and VXUS daddy
Why not but VOO or QQQM and bitcoin - you’ll be more diversified and have less fees than buying the stocks individually
decided to quit and just manned my life, not my account. you’re chasing a dopamine hit, the only way to stop is to get no access – delete the app, turn off options at your broker, tell a trusted friend to freeze your $ maybe even set up a 0DTE sandbox with $5k that you can’t touch, and start with a low‑risk long term like VOO for the rest of the life. otherwise you’ll keep blowing your credit and buying out more debt. grief is real, but if you don’t get professional help (call gambling addiction line) there’s no coming back to 140k. i’ve been there, you’re not alone, but you need to act.
Half VOO and Half SSO gives you 1.5x leverage. Most people however sell SSO if VOO crosses the 200 sma and reenter above to avoid a serious drawdown but its mostly set and forget
i will be buying 1 dow jonne tomorrow with my VOO dividends thanks for coming to my boomer talk
Anyone recommending VT over VOO is at that first peak on the Dunning-Kruger curve
I agree that's it's been sideways for a few months, but so has VOO and SPMO. FMTM is not even 2 years old, so no track record yet, but I think FMTM will surprise.
semis pumping again and VOO dividends just hit this is what good life is all about :money: :money: :money:
Good list but plenty of tech in VOO - like 60%
i don’t recommend putting all 4k into one obscure pick— you risk it all in a single stock. a good split is a 1k chunk you’re comfortable losing into a solid, well‑diversified play like a large cap that’s already in your VOO world, and leave the rest to stay in market‑cap ETFs or as cash for future learning. then compare the results after a year— if you love the volatility keep a small portion, otherwise swing back to your core ETFs. this gives you a play lab without blowing up the foundation.
Check SPYM. Especially if you plan to DCA. It's identical to VOO, but less expense ratio and lower share cost. I like it's ~$90 share cost to DCA full shares every day or so.
A good qualifite covered call fund would be my choice. QQQI 14% yield, SPYI 12%, IWMI 14%, and MLPI 14%.These funds have a yeidl high enough that they should be vclose to doubling in value 7 years with all dividends reinvested. And in addition to this they are very tax efficient due to tax loss harvesting and and the resulting ROC dividneds they produce. Now the dividneds may go up and down with he market but they won't go to zero But VOO in a bad market can have negative earnings or ever zero for an extended period of time. And governmentbondds don'tprodcue any meaningful yields.
Core of VOO, but tilt to momentum and tech: SPMO, XMMO, VGT, IDMO, AVUV, AVDV, QQQM, SOXQ, AVEM. This diversifies & crushes VOO. That is if history continues, which is never a sure thing, but it's been beating the market for me.
The problem is that you externalize help. Nobody can help you. Nobody. You are VERY lucky that you’re young. Take that knowledge and turn the script. Forget making money, just forget the losses and focus on your life. Walk away from “trading”. And if you ever trade again, just buy VOO. QQQ is dead for you. Dead. Understand?
Yeah I think I’m either get VOO or VTI and chill while all this chaos
1. Delete every trading app off of your phone. 2. Set up an E\*trade account without options or margin enabled 3. Put every penny you have into VOO (this is not financial advice) 4. Focus on other aspects of your life.
You need to let go of the FOMO. Most of the idiots in WSB don't even trade options. They lurk here while DCA'ing into fucking VOO every month. The ones who do are mostly making small profits or losing money like you. Get over the idea that this is a magic money tree and you're missing out while everyone else is getting rich - they aren't. Now come up with a real plan to have a solid income instead of chasing this bullshit fantasy you fucking clown.
ngl its looking bad. if possible, $700 a month into VOO should give you about 1.5 million after contributing $252,000 over 30 years and that's barely managing anything. since you probably won't stop options, good luck on future plays 🫡
No risk: SGOV (3.6% annually, ties inflation) Low risk: VT (is a bet on the world economy, which I personally wouldn't participate in) Medium risk: SPYM/VOO (bet on America) High risk: SPMO, QQQM (bet on profitability of AI/tech sector) Crazy risk: QLD, SPUU (huge short term bet on tech/America) Genuinely do not do this: TQQQ, SPXL (yoloing everything and you would lose it all in a crash)
Wild that a 23 year old with a spare 140k somehow feels like they need more money. Could just parked that shit in VOO and retired early. Average 23 year olds make like 35k a year and have nothing, just delete all your apps and get a flip phone and live like a normal person.
VOO is pretty good stuff if you are ok with risk. It's basically a bet on the USA so hard to go wrong. If it crashes and it will, it will almost certainly recover. US is the powerhouse and more oil on the market than ever is now priced in dollars. Going heavy on US currency denominated ETFs makes a lot of sense. VOO is good for wild tech addicted junkies who like tech. It's good for mild mannered Mr. Rogers investors who want a simple sane buy and hold. It's endorsed by Warren buffet for what normies should buy. It rhymes with moo. You can always beat VOO if you know the future. But warren buffet made a bet with a hot shot hedge fundie who claimed he could beat the market. The fundie lost the bet to buffets 1 fund VOO portfolio and had to cough up a million dollars to buffet. Tdlr: VOO
Sounds like you're doing great. 32m, single father of a border collie. $171K in 401k and IRAs, mostly VOO, and QQQM $180K in home equity $100K as 1/5 share of irrevocable trust invested in the most boring, boomer assets imaginable $22k emergency fund (should be about double that) \~$40K in vehicles and other assets
I mean plenty of funds are going to have higher upsides than VOO due to the fact theyre more concentrated. If you truly have unlimited risk tolerance though you might as well just pick a stock you like and put everything into that. Diversification is a way to reduce downside risk, not increase upside gains.
Tbh if 10Y treasuries go to 8%, I could personally leave stocks for a while and just invest most of my VOO budget there
Is the intent here to sell after circa 7 years, or to get a dividend or dividend like payout continuing after 7 years of DCA contributions, if the idea is to hold and get payout until you pass it along at inheritance with step up, I would look of OVL combined with SPYI, and maybe MBOX, just be aware since these return money as ROC which the IRS does not count as income so does not count towards AGI much until the basis runs out in 10+ years there are tax implications both positive and negative, with the basis and capital gains resetting when you die and pass it on. Of course VOO, VT, VTI, VXUS, etc is probably the safer bet
Equities? A "value" or dividend fund -- there's a lot of overlap between the two. Less total return than VOO but far less volatile. SCHD has actually outperformed VOO year to date - by a wide margin. Stable return? IBTM, a fixed maturity Treasury ETF that liquidates in Dec. 2032, with a 5.11% annualized Yield to Maturity. Put in $10,000, get out $14,175 on Dec. 15, 2032. Or the TIPs version IBII -- yield is only 2.73% but that's pricing in future inflation adjustments to principal at just 2.3%. I think the inflation adjustments over the next few years will be significantly more than that. An obvious answer is an actual 7 year Treasury Note, but they only sell in increments of $100 (Treasury Direct) or $1000 (brokerage), making DCA difficult. They also throw off coupon interest payments that leave you with uninvested cash sloshing around in your account (unless you buy a zero coupon bond).
Maybe i wasnt asking the right question- and with i dont know how to quantify my risk tolerance other than im somewhere between gambling and and able to stomach rough seas. Maybe the better question is: Given my risk tolerance, is there a better place to put 10k/year for 6 years that gives meaningfully better results than VOO? work with me on the phrasing here in the specifics. Let’s just think bigger picture.
VOO suffers less severe drawdowns and rebounds faster then VT, and life of fund has put distance on VT for returns.
How about two levels? 1. VOO Level, and 2. SPMO level. If you have ideas for a bonus pick, then 3. Utilities level.
I have about 90% of my assets in VOO and the other in stuff like silver/gold.
30 yr can go to 10% and most here will still say just VOO and chill. That strategy has worked in the past and will always work.
VOO + VT is just over concentration in USA. If you want to go whole world but still control your percentages, just go VOO/VTI + VXUS
not all of them, need to get a pack with VOO in it
Because you have to say VT on this sub. Until the foreign market poops as oil rises. Then you have to say VOO. Oh, and don't forget to say "and chill." The discussions on this sub have been hijacked by an active cohort who only parrot what they hear. Because they are young, this Boglehead strategy will likely work for them, but they like to apply it as a panacea for all investment questions.
If you're not opposed to risk, then there's plenty of riskier but potentially higher reward investments to be made in individual stocks or even leveraged ETFs. Take your pick. VOO is a solid choice for passive set it and forget it investing. These are polar opposite attributes though so which one are you looking for?
The problem with VOO is they screen stocks based on market cap and not by value/profitability. I’d look into Avantis Investors etfs such as AVLC, AVUQ or AVUS.
There is no better investment. We can split hairs on potentially better ones, but no one will be able to make a 100% convincing argument on something better for 5-7 years. That being said it sounds like you’re talking about fun money. I have about .5% of my portfolio in such. I like DRAM (you could just buy MU and probably get the same results) and GOOGL. They both move at least 3X whatever VOO does daily so it satisfies my horse racing portion of brain.
Why not half VOO, and half VT? Yes, there’s a lot of overlap. But 100% VOO is 100% overlap.
Better choice than VOO? Maybe SPYM, FXAIX, FNILX, ETLGX (/s, mostly). If you're truly very ok with risk, FTEC seems pretty well managed right now.
by VOO or SPY and sit on it forever
Buy and hold VOO and never visit this subreddit again
If you look at VEU though it's still winning 2026 YTD not just YoY vs VOO. US will do more retarded shit no doubt and international will win again.
Great, let’s do the math there, so VOO is up 12% YTD, taxes, long term capital gain rates are even better than treasury skipping state taxes, so 9.6%, and after inflation 6.6%, in your pocket.
Yes of course, the entire world is invested in SPY, QQQ, VOO, etc. but the passive index investing does not inflect crashes 👀
Fun story for the bears and cash gang waiting for a good entry point: Let's say I invest $1,000 a month in VOO, starting on the day VOO launched. Assume fractional shares are permitted. I save up the $1,000 each month and then buy when VOO is 8% or more below its ATH, making purchases on the 1st of the month. If VOO is within 8% of its ATH, I save the money for the next month it is 8%+ below its ATH. If VOO drops more than 8% from ATH in the middle of a month, I immediately make the purchase. How would I have performed compared to just investing $1,000 every month on the 1st day, regardless of VOO's price? Buying the dips would have left you slightly behind plain monthly investing. ||Invest on the 1st every month|Wait for an 8%+ drawdown| |:-|:-|:-| |Total contributed (Sep 2010 – Sep 2026)|$193,000|$193,000| |Shares owned|\~853|\~820, plus $6,000 cash| |Average cost per share|\~$226|\~$228| |Value today (VOO ≈ $702), price only|**\~$599,000**|**\~$582,000**| |Value with dividends reinvested (est.)|\~$708,000|\~$679,000|
Happens less often than you think. Shaded is VOO 8%+ below ATH. https://preview.redd.it/q0mr563tejsh1.png?width=786&format=png&auto=webp&s=a09e54025adc0595f5676c2a7b9839e130accab3
Honestly, wait for VOO to drop 8% or more than buy more VOO. That's my new strategy, I'm tired of looking at stocks
\*\*Title:\*\* Up 78% all-time swinging for the fences on a $29k account — help a small potato double it I know, I know — small potatoes. But I'm up 78% all-time (turned \~$16.5k into $29.4k) and I'm trying to run it to $60k. I swing for the fences, I don't do index funds, and I'm not here for a lecture about diversification. Current book:- DRAM (120 sh) — my biggest at \~23% of the account, doing the heavy lifting- AVL, SPCX, ORCL, RDTL, CVNA, SKHY round it out- CVNA was my pick over NFLX and it's paying today (+5%) The problem: the run has plateaued. Chart's getting choppy, swings are getting wider, and I don't know what to rotate into. I'm not scared of red — I just want to make money. So what are you degenerates actually buying right now? Looking for high-conviction momentum/growth ideas, not "just buy VOO" (I will downvote you).
Hope you heal. I think VOO and chill is so underrated haha 💕
Yeah. That's why I started a VOO account and threw tons of money into it. Market always go up and all.
This sub really has changed. I went through the dot com bubble and the housing bubble, the infinate growth mentality is nuts and constantly measuring a diversified portfolio of assets against “VOO & Chill” is a bit absurd. I have most of my money in equities, a healthy chunk in tech, but my dividend aristocrats saved my ass once and they will always be part of my portfolio.
Sure, but I have another post a few days back with DD - I’m shorting before confirmed continuation here, short shares have 0 to do with the confirmation. We have 2 shooting star wicks b2b which is pretty telling of selling pressure. Yesterday’s climb was low volume. Today’s climb is off of a BS article that if you read down shows AI is actually harming TTAN’s customers more than helping. “Saving 3 hours per week” is costing money if you read through it. 100% confirmation would be a sustained break below \~ 53.80, it could touch under 54 for a stop loss hunt. I could very well be incorrect as well. I sold some of my VOO for this, we shall see how it plays out.
Not if my accounts are 100% VOO it isn't.
VOO and watching all you guys lose your shit.
Feeling risky. Might full port into VOO
how about $4000 of VOO? i’m willing to bet it will outperform this turd of a company in the long term. but if you wanna gamble, why not just play options?
We are talking about people who don't invest at all, not even VOO and chill. They aren't the type of people to shop around for better rates on their return. I love them, and they aren't living pay check to paycheck, but you start talking to them about investing outside of their 401k and their eyes glaze over.
Sort of my thinking, although probably not right, an extremely slow small investments into VOO and semiconductors and space stocks. No huge lump sums.
Max traditional 401k +6% employer match. Max backdoor roth IRA. ~$60K into brokerage. Totals somewhere around $100k. This excludes company equity. I have very little crypto overall because I wanted a lottery ticket a few years ago. The average year of investments goes into 100% US equities. Vast majority of that is VOO with a smaller percentage I have fun daytrading on slowee working days. For background, I am low 30s, live in LCOL, married, and no kids. The numbers above reflect myself and do not include my wife's numbers.
Marry SPY Fuck QQQ Kill VOO
$200K per year; 30% VTI, 30% VOO, 20% VUG, 20% VXUS.
If you put that $1k in VOO/SPY/S&P 1 year ago you'd have $1140 today. Need to zoom out your timelines. WSB is BETS. Gambling. Yes there's big payouts. There's also huge losses. And with all gambling the house is the only real winner. A few get a bone thrown to them to keep everyone's excitement up but it's a casino, not a charity. Consistent long term investing is as sure a thing as you can get. I presume you're young and just starting. Consistency is key. Figure out your goals and how you're going to get there. And stick to it even when it hurts.
I think you have to have an investing thesis and stick with it. You have to look for value and "fat pitches". When Walmart drops 10% and you believe that WMT is a good company and defensive stock, buy it up. Also, you can't freak the f\*&k out and sell everything anytime the market dips half a percent and yell the sky is falling. You have to play the long game. You can't chase stocks going up or you will become liquidity for someone taking profits (selling the stock). You don't need to trade everyday to make money, you just need to make solid trades and learn to take profits. Often times the best thing to do is nothing. This is what I do and I have beat the index funds by +1.31% this year, (a small victory) and am trying to for a 20% return this year. 3 months left, can I do it! :) If you can't do these things just put it all in VOO and chill and don't look at it until you retire.
If you invested heavy in tech in May it’s been somewhat stagnant since then. If you’d invested in VOO, VTI, and/or and S&P stock check the gains from May until now. You’d be up $60.
Invest in VOO, SPMO, IDMO, AVNM, and a tech ETF. Just ride it and keep investing.
Time is your friend. Don't look at it. Set up auto deposit/investment on a monthly basis. I recommend just buying VTI or VOO for now.
Family. Both 45 M / 49 F. $5.4mm NW. Annual Minimum Commitments 50k in 401k, $25k 557B, $15k Roth Conversions, $5k HSA, $150k After Tax Brokerage VOO/VT. = $245,000
Husband and I both max out our 401ks and Roth IRAs. I also contribute about 1k/month in a mega backdoor Roth and max out my HSA, which I also invest. After that, we invest prob around 70k…could be a little higher or a little lower depending on the year and what we have going on. We have two tax lost harvesting accounts managed by an advisor. One is a US based account and the other is an international account. When we want to invest in these, we do a 70/30 split usually, respectfully. Otherwise, in my retirement accounts or individual brokerage account, I invest mostly in VOO but like to throw some money into single companies for fun. For example, this year, I invested about 30k in Apple but did about 10k in Microsoft 2 years ago. I don’t want to be risky with our money so that is as risky as it gets in our household lol
I've witnessed this, as well, where alternative investments are pitched as better downside protection, more diversification, and not purely chasing gains. The conversation gets interesting the longer retail outpaces alternatives like private equity by significant margins, tho. What is the opportunity cost for sticking with PE, for example, when sticking with VOO would've resulted in significantly more growth. Over one year the opportunity cost is low but it's been three-ish years of PE under-performance from what I understand (could be wrong there, I'm not in the biz). Another thing I've also seen is that advisors/firms #1 goal seems to be not losing money and that's prioritized over big gains which makes sense because big red numbers are more likely to lose them business.
As someone who used to work with people with Down Syndrome, I find it funny that they would beat most of you retards at investing if they got the chance. Their mental impairment manifests itself in excessive calmness and optimism. They would invest everything in VOO and celebrate every dollar they earned as if it was their birthday.
You know VOO went down 0.8% again too, right?
I’m done with this shit for now on I buy VOO and chill like a bitch.
They blocked me, so I won't be able to follow up with them. VOO lagging behind certain other etfs means it's an even better time to invest in the US economy, tbh.