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Vanguard Value Index Fund ETF Shares
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What is an appropriate ETF that goes with tech heavy folio?
How can I see what is in VTI and VTV to compare these 2 ETFs?
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Looking for an ETF or two in order to diversify my tech-heavy portfolio? (VTI/VTV/SPY/QQQ, etc)
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Thought VTV would save me, heh. We all bleed.
VTV and VXUS should be safe
Depending on your state tax situation, SGOV would be a better place for your 12-month fund Safe and maximize income is a challenge for the 100k JAAA PIMIX SCHP VCSH IEI all "safer" but capping growth below 5% VOO VTV more upside and downside
Correction: *Some* Vanguard funds. #1 ETF VOO is S&P 500 and some others are Russell. But VT, VTI, and VUG are absolutely CRSP. VTV is too, but there's no way SpaceX is a "value" company. VXF isn't CRSP, but almost by definition includes stocks excluded by S&P 500; for years, Tesla was its largest component. The idea because using CRSP was to wiggle out of the fees S&P wanted Vanguard (and thus shareholders) to pay. But this is a side effect of that.
Not even true. Historically Dividend and Value ETF's crash just as hard, and often even harder, than the S&P in real downturns. Take a look at the max draw downs in '08 and '20 for VTV, VYI, and VIG Vs. SPY
I’m approaching 10% in cash, money mkts, for that reason. VTV won’t crash as hard and I’ll rotate out of it at that time. I did the same with schd back in April, different ways to buy dips. Bonds sure haven’t been helpful during recent dips though.
Space X, open ai, and Anthropic just filled to go public today. Who doesn’t love the opportunity to invest in trillion dollar companies so private equity can cash out? Dfus, Vxus and VTV for me. I’m not greedy enough to keep playing this game without cashing in some of these chips.
VTI is whole (US) stock market, and VT is total world stock market. that will make SpaceX a smaller piece. but these "every single stock" funds are much less picky. they let in new entrants after 5 days, and have operated that way for years. if you switch now you will end up getting SpaceX sooner. VTV is a value based fund. if SpaceX is classified as "Growth" it will not be there. it is in either VTV or VUG. i expect them to follow the same rules as VOO since they are VOO split in two pieces, but i have not confirmed this. you may want to go to actively managed funds if you are trying to outsmart the market. or use options to offset the SpaceX and Tesla stock. buy a put and your downside is limited but it will pay off big if the stock drops.
JFC The joke: 0 exposure to Space X VTV: value companies that make money...so not Space X SPLV: companies with stable pricing... so not Space X
How the hell is space X going to kill a utilities based etf like VTU? Or energy based like VDE? Or real estate based like VNQ? Or financial based like VFH? Or value based like VTV?
VTV includes MGV stocks, why would you overlap?
VTV and chill. I’m with op on Dfus for S&P exposure that will avoid ipo’s
I have a position in VTV specifically as a hedge against tech.
AVLV or VTV or SCHD will all help diversify your large cap US to diff extents and differently
I’ve been buying VTV and IVLU right now. They seem a little less disconnected fundamentally. They are both value ETFs so you won’t get face ripping gains, but I find them quite comfy.
Time to TLH! I bought into SCHV right before the dip. Sold my position somewhere near the bottom, bought into VTV. Since the recovery, I'm net up + the nice little tax benefit.
Is holding both VTV and VIG in a single portfolio redundant, or do their underlying screening methodologies offer distinct enough risk-mitigation to justify holding both?
Yes, I own a ton on Vym and VTV too. Schd has ran enough I’m not adding here. VGT is a sell too
Can you buy, please? I just want to load up VOO and VTV at better prices.
I know you said you’re more interested in individual stocks, but you could just go with VTV for diversification. It’s only 8% tech and you can just not think about that part of your portfolio. You did well picking your own growth stocks stick to that and let the boring stuff work itself
Final adjustment. Im now holding only hold MSFT, PLTR, NVDA, VOO, VTV, SCHD, SCHY, QQQM, RKLB, MLPI, TSM. I think this aligns with my goal to be growth and Dividend focused. Planning on primary increaseing the ETF's, reinvesting any dividends, and growing the single stocks over time. As I invest more Thanks everyone for the advice. Any other or additional advice is welcome as well.
Not sure about what would be available in Europe, but there are ETFs like VTV that only hold stocks that fit certain value criteria. Avantis has some good ones that are actively managed for a reasonable fee. Any broad market index fund is going to be skewed towards tech, so if you want a value tilt I would look specifically for value ETFs
1st: talk to a financial advisor. If you have a Fidelity or Schwab account you can get free counseling. 2nd VOO and SPY are essentially the same. Diversify into something that isn't overlapping with them, like VTV or SPXT. alternatively VT (world) or VXUS (companies outside the US) might be good too. 3rd: Avoid individual companies initially. If you want to learn, start paper trading for a while. Again, you can "fake buy" stocks with Fidelity and Schwab as well as access a plethora of their information online.
Dang. This is quite a list. I would keep Microsoft, Netflix, Service Now, Tesla, Mercado Libre, Palantir, Taiwan Semi, Rocketlab, Lulu Lemon, Shopify, Applied Optoelectrics, Astera Labs, Credo, Coherent, Lumentum, and Nike. Then sell the rest and roll available funds into a broadmarket value ETF like VTV because going all in on a few stock sectors in these amounts is way out of alignment with my risk tolerance.
SPMO and VTV. add in some VEU for pan pacific. moon
horrible formatting. instructions unclear, buying VTV instead.
returns are horrible for SCHD compared to any SP500 index fund. Its not even close. Even a factor etf like VTV will wipe the floor with SCHD
Generational wealth has historically been built in one of three ways: 1. over generations; 2. Off the backs of others (serfs or slaves); or 3. it was stolen. Don’t worry about generational wealth. Focus on investing for your lifetime and perhaps for your kids to have a good start (e.g. college/house fund). I’d recommend a broad based ETF like VT for you, perhaps a value fund to start, like VTV. Just understand these are crazy times. You could see your $20k halved this year. But then it could become $25k in 6 months. You never know short term.
Yep, another good choice is VTV - vanguard value index fund ETF There are others that do similar things, like DFUS
Consider QUAL and VTV as alternatives to QQQ and VOO or some balance.
I'm considering adding a value tilt to my taxable brokerage account. I've been reading about Avantis and their AVGV fund, and it seems like a fairly interesting approach compared to fully passive competitors like VTV. Do any of you have opinions on it?
Still rich by any reasonable standard, for the broad market. On a recent episode Jack Hough's podcast, he pointed out that value stocks (represented by VTV) were only relatively cheap, as they were trading at multiples higher than the long-term average of the overall US market.
I use trade triggers to protect profits and have held a lot of XOM and VTV long term for dividend income so am still in the green YTD.
This blend is actually quite aggressive for a 15-20 year horizon. While the cost efficiency is excellent, you are essentially double-dipping VOO with VTV and VGT. This creates a concentrated bet on one sector that will likely fall harder during a market correction compared to a simpler approach. I usually use the portfolio cross-referencing on trylattice to spot this kind of diworsification and check stock filings for better geographic balance. A simpler 70 percent VTI and 30 percent VXUS split would give you similar growth potential with way less maintenance and better diversification.
So… you want to overweight large cap value (VTV) while also overweighting large cap tech (VGT) and then overweight small and mid cap growth? What on earth is your justification for this mix of funds?
Any value or dividend focused like VTV, VYM, SPYD/SPYV, SCHD and so on.
Portfolio 1: Value: IWVL (VTV) | **Dividend: VHYL (VYM)** | Growth IWQU (US: QUAL) - CNDX (US: QQQ) Portfolio 2 Value: IEVL (US: EFV) and ZPRV (US: VBR) | **Dividend: FUSD (US: SCHD)** | Growth: CNDX (US: QQQ) What do you think?
Hello everyone! Recently I turned 23 and I have decided that it is time to get myself into investing (could have earlier but I would say it is still early) as having money sitting on the bank that I do not use and inflation grows is not ideal. I have opened an account with IBKR and I live in Europe (and will also be travelling to a different country from where I currently live but still in Europe) and thus I do not have direct access to ETFs such as SP500 etc etc I will be investing around 3-4k for a start, and as much money as I can monthly, but at the start of the next year I will get access to around 12-15k more which will also be invested into my portfolio. I did a little bit of research and I have decided that I prefer not go with a single global broad market ETF as I would like to have a bit more control where I invest my money as the months/years come by. And thus by going through ETFs, different posts and videos collecting information I have decided to go with one of these portofolios: **Portfolio 1:** **Value: IWVL (VTV) | Dividend: VHYL (VYM) | Growth IWQU (US: QUAL) - CNDX (US: QQQ)** Portfolio 2 Value: IEVL (US: EFV) and ZPRV (US: VBR) | Dividend: FUSD (US: SCHD) | Growth: CNDX (US: QQQ) As I am not that experienced yet, I will be looking into your feedback and insights!
Buying individual stocks is incredibly risky. If you are concerned about tech valuations buy industrial etf like XLI or value stock etf like VTV.
Those are very small drops, but they could just be the beginning. I am personally much more diversified this year compare the past. Added about 20% bond, 20% international and 10% defensive index such as VDC and VTV.
A healthy mix of VTV + SCHD pretty much do this for me.
FMTM, SHLD, VTV(less risky balance sheets w VTV) gotta moderate my risk
SHLD. VTV. i want arms and cyber security exposure while also having value focused companies w strong balance sheets
protect my gains? i have 40 years left to invest. chase more gains thru FMTM, SPMO, and VTV
I am not a broker, nor an expert in the market. If I were you now, I would open a vanguard account and put money in VUG, VTV and VTI. Vanguard Growth ETF, Vanguard Value and Vanguard Total Stock Market. At your age (I'm in my late 50s) I would put most in VUG which is a growth ETF (Exchange traded fund), the second most in VTV and lastly the VTI. Just let it sit, pretend you never had it. Work hard, work long and that money will make it possible for you to retire early if you want, Each year, sell some off and put $8,000 into a ROTH IRA via Vanguard also. When that is available to you, it will be tax free regardless of growth. I wish you the best!
I shifted about a third of my portfolio into VTV at the start of January and have been pretty happy with the results so far. I also have a fair amount in utility ETFs/CEFs that have done well.
I've been adding to VTV & SCHD much heavier the last 12 mos.
VXUS has the added benefit of getting you away from tech since the largest companies outside America tend to not be tech stocks. There's no reason to hold individual stocks. If you want to hold US stocks that are less concentrated in tech just buy a value index such as VTV or or AVLV.
I'm mostly loading up defensively. VTV and the energy sector.
VTV and VTI are clearly not substantially identical. Wealthfront and Betterment have published white papers on their tax loss harvesting methods and they use index funds that are very similar, but which follow indexes from different index or providers. The IRS has not objected. The IRS has not even objected to swapping between ETFs that follow the same index, such as SPY and VOO, which are both SP500 ETFs. That is pushing it too far for my taste, but I do TLH between VTI, ITOT, and SCHB which are in total US market ETFs, but the index providers are different.
That sounds like an excellent technique, assuming the gap happens frequently enough, as it accentuates the move, and the broader market (either VTV or VTI) are likely to recover eventually after any downturn, which might not happen to a single company, no matter how big. I think that this is my new plan. I briefly thought of something similar to avoid wash sale triggers a few months ago, designed to generate some losses. Now I feel that after the initial concentrated stock move, I should watch for short term downturns from the initial buy, and move lots between VTV and VTI and/or VOO and VGT. I dont want to get too deep into timing things, but this seems pretty safe, and almost like not moving as these positions are largely the same (except for the value option), but not **Substantially Identical**. Do you think that this is crazy?
Others have commented on your tech-heavy investments. You’re also in most specific stocks and not ETFs. There are ideological arguments around that, but generally ETFs are stabler. Another consideration is your investing horizon, are you looking for maximum near-term growth, stable long-term growth, or maximum near-term stability? If you want diversity, consider adding non-US ETFs (Vanguard VEA), less-tech dominant value-companies (Vanguard VTV), diversified US ETFs (VOO or VTI). There are also thematic ETFs (energy, infrastructure, consumer staples, defense). And hedges (commodities, non-US ETF, etc) if you aren’t bullish on US dollar. If you want a hands-off approach, target-date investment funds. An advisor is highly likely to move away from single-stocks (for the most part) and prefer ETFs because of the inherent risk mitigation associated with them. You likely don’t need to pay for an advisor unless (1) you can’t stop yourself from trading and you want to, (2) you want someone actively trading for you, or (3) you’re really trying to maximize near-term returns and willing to have someone be risky. Outside of those conditions, you’re likely better off with low-fee ETFs, index, or target-date funds. Personally, I’m pretty near-ish on the current US market valuations and I’ve done extremely well with gold-ETF (IAU), defense ETF (NATO), and non-US ETF (VEA + Fidelity equivalent) and very so-so with VTI, QQQ, and US-growth stocks. But that’s recency bias and potentially not reliable in 2026 and beyond.
The selling on perceived bumps in value is what I have been doing. In addition to the price of your concentrated position you should monitor its price relative to VTV (or whatever else replacement you use). I sell when my concentrated position is high relative to VTI.
You make some really good points here. I am OK without the position (75% loss), but there will be little freedom and inheritance to pass on, so not critical to re-balance at the expense of tax loses. I would be a bit over my skis with that aggressive long/short strategy, but I will look into it. I was also thinking of fairly aggressive selling the concentration over time on perceived bumps, and using those dollars to buy VTV, which by its very nature excludes the overvalued mag 7, but is still looking for growth of large cap and with a smallish expense ratio. Thoughts?
I've been doing $75 a week split into VOO, VTV, and IWF. It's been good. Does best when I dont look.
Market is doing amazing if your in anything other than market is doing great if your diversified beyond S&P. Only thing doing bad is growth. VBR is up over 9% DISV is up over 12% VTV is up over 8% and VXUS is up over 8%.
I’ve got some money on a seven year timeline mostly in VT with some VTV as well.
If it's being juiced, buy the juice. He will not dump his shares at IPO. If you really think there is something going on that doesn't elsewhere, buy and short hold. I suggest having other concerns. Indexing is plenty diversified. Or find alternative indexes that would be less invested like QUAL or VTV
Value has been performing well so far this year. VTV, for instance, is up 7%+ since the start of the year.
Timeline and goals advice: ==================== 40 USA Employed. Unmarried. $280,000 Goal is to cut way back on work. In 5 years go part time. Risk tolerance quite high. Mortgage $1300. Car paid off. No student loans. Investments: VUG 98k VEA 96k VWO 35k VTV 90k Individual Stocks 90k Mostly Tech and compounders like ORLY MCK MSFT LLY and Google. ============== The problem is I can’t get a clear answer on how much I’ll need to live off, and how much I can cut back my hours. What my time table actually is. I both love and hate my job. The stock market is incredibly volatile, and with the dollar amount I have it swings by the thousands most days. But overall it seems to seesaw. It was crazy during Covid, and of course with Trump. I missed the first half of bull market paying off loans. Kicking myself and frustrated. Feel stick.
Nice! I use VBR and VTV, so this is welcome for me.
Yeah I’ve done a terrible job explaining myself. My question is: How do I know what to invest in after I sell and move on from silver? I don’t want risky, just steady growth. I have VOO and VTV so do I put my silver earnings into that and call it a day?
New ATH for vanguard value VTV. Boomers win again
MU trades at a forward PE of 11. Its a part of passive value ETFs like VTV and VLUE, and factor-tilted ETFs like AVLV and DFUV. If you don't think it's value because the company is actually growing revenue and earnings, then you're not helping with the allegations that value investors hate making money.
Really just ETFs... VTV, IVE, VLUE. RPV is sort of an "aggressive" deeper value fund. I just looked and I was SO heavy in tech and felt it was time to pull back. I had a ton of my 401k in SMH and S&P 500 market weighted ETFs - and they did very well (SMH in particular) , but I am thinking we may be looking at a pull back in tech and others. I still want to be in the market, but I have more downside risk with Value.
I've shifted more toward value (VTV) for at least the first half of the year. Beyond that, I'm not altering my approach.
I've just been shifting toward VTV and will probably continue to buy more for at least the first half of this year.
Looking over VTV it seems to be less top heavy which is one of things I'm looking for, this seems like a good option
Time will tell if it's the right move, but I shifted a significant portion from tech heavy etfs into VTV at this start of this year.
This right here. I've been feeling a little tech heavy, so I've been putting new funds to VTV
Thank you and good point. My goal is to diversify my portfolio that is very heavy in large cap individual holdings. I'd love to do SPY or VTI or similar, but that essentially doesn't help me diversify since such a large portion of those ETFs are concentrated in the same 7-8 large caps that I already hold individually. So, I was thinking of something like VTV, but saw EQWL and I almost want the additional exposure to small and mid-cap that it gives vs a weighted value ETF. It also has a performance record that's fairly impressive (yes, I understand past performance is no guarantee...). Though, if I am diversifying to hedge and protect against a downturn, VTV has a lower Beta...
I don't see the problem regarding the dividend, but otherwise, I also don't like SCHD much. Maybe it serves as a defensive holding, but total returns since the start of 2022 have been pretty anemic. That being said, I have shifted significantly toward value as a more defensive and diversified approach to 2026, but chose to replace some of VOO and a few other tech heavy holdings in favor of VTV.
The downside is that both are top heavy in tech. I'm not convinced on the oft-predicted impending AI crash doom, but I'm still hedging my bets. I've reduced a lot of my tech related holdings and have instead reallocated a significant portion into value (VTV, specifically) as a defense in case it happens. I'm not sure it's the right play in 2026 for maximum returns if the bull market continues, but I definitely feel better about my diversification now if it doesn't.
The companies you listed are tech and they're all overvalued. Consider a value company ETF like VTV, treasuries (SGOV), or something with less volatility
I'm shifting some away from VOO and the tech sector and plan to invest more into VTV and some sector defensives (XLU and XLV) this year.
lol 1 year chart of VTV was 15.8% and VOO was 16.8%. Most of my funds are still in VOO and other growth stocks, just not my current contributions each month. What’s your point?
I've started shifting away from VOO and tech and primarily into VTV, which I'll be adding along with XLU and XLV this year. I want to play this year more defensively.
That index in particular tries to replicate a value index with the same sector composition as the SP500, so there's a ton of tech stocks that aren't very volatile like MU or INTC. In the US is a rare index to use as VLUE is not a common ETF, but the European IUVL is. VTV doesn't have this issue for example.
I do a mix of VT, VIG, VTV, VBR...shit is solid.
Remember to diversify your sp500 with some Value VTV
Thanks for the data point. Thats about my target. I recently adjusted new contributions to my 401k to ~25% Value fund and have about 15% of current and new investments in my taxable brokerage account allocated to VTV.
Right now I’m around 10% VTV and 4% BRK. But VTV is where most of my money is going when I invest each month in my brokerage, Roth IRA, and I have a similar fund in my 401k as well. Once I am in the 20-25% range in VTV, I’ll probably adjust so future contributions to it are about 25%
What percentage of your portfolio does VTV comprise? I’ve also been buying VTV for this reason.
I’m still super bullish on the AI revolution but I’m not trying to get wiped out if the tech sector takes a breather. That’s why I’m layering in some **VTV** and **BRK.B**. It’s basically my **downside protection**. If the 'Magnificent Seven' start to wobble these value plays act like a shock absorber for my portfolio. I’m staying long on tech but I’m not doing it without a seatbelt.
I think the answer you’re looking for is probably a value-based etf. I’ve been putting money into VTV for similar reasons. Obviously anything can happen, but the focus is on companies that have certain dynamics like low PE ratios. They’re likely to be less impacted during downturns Also, something like BRK is good to hold. Plenty of diversity within the company
They have an ETF for that... VTV Just saying 😉
Not equivalent but relevant: VFQY ( quality factor) VTV ( value US ) then a lot of VBIL and bingo
The answer is not to pull your investments, it’s to keep it balanced and diversify. If you have too much tech, then consider a positions of VTV and AVUV to offset. Got a huge of SMH or FSELX? Consider SOXQ instead for less Nvidia concentration. Consider a dry powder position with JPST, and have it ready to buy more equity shares if the market drops.
Not the right place. Any S&P fund isn't bubble proof right now because the biggest bubble right now is also filled with 5/6 biggest market cap stocks in the world. What you're looking for is VTV, VYM, or SCHD. When the bubble pops 100% VOO.
Value index gains as folks run from big tech, resulting in a stagnant S&P. VTV looking like a good ETF right now. I can see JEPI and/or JEPQ selling more shares, folks looking for gains via monthly dividends. EX-US may see continued growth, particularly foreign value. FIVA may do well.
Why not sub VYM or VTV instead of having single sector risk. I like value here and you could buy a pullback in growth later.
Wouldn’t that be investing in like VTV?
You’re going to have to figure out when to re-renter the market. I would buy at least SGOV or ICSH and VTV for now instead of just sitting on it.
I bought some VTV over time but it doesn’t do exactly what I m looking for. With VTV , you’re doubling down on the 300 value stock and are not exposed to the 193 (200-7) smaller grow stock. I want to own those growth stocks - just diversify away out of those mag7.