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Variance Risk Premium Trade: Selling ASHR Options
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Year in review and bull case for China pt. 2
The huge rally in China ETFs looks like it’s finally winning over American investors (Bloomberg). How do you feel about China ETFs or companies as an allocation in your portfolio?
Selling ASHR Options (Volatility Trade Analysis)
LZB and ASHR. Playing both sides puts and Call. Tryna make a comeback From being down $30k🫡
Are these good candidates for the ss?
China is fucked. So lets make money. (ASHR, EWH, MCHI, WYNN) - A picturebook discussing possible contagion of the fallout.
China Index ETF puts, $ASHR, $FXI
Beijing’s Squeeze on Fragile Real-Estate Developers Is Getting Real - Wall Street Journal Article
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What are your thoughts on CNXT and ASHR? Do you think they're good vehicles to get exposure to non internet china tech?
Honesty, just parking in allocated cash over there like FXI/ASHR, will probably toss the rest in SPY today and just ride the general markets until I see some actual buying opportunities I am eyeballing MSFT at the very least but might be “catch a falling knife” territory
Hey there, I see this all the time and sometimes comment on it: the old "missed out while I was waiting on a magical entry point" dilemma. You won't like this much, but what if you just looked at charts, saw they were going up, and wanted to get in on some of that action? Like literally, "That chart is going up, why don't I buy some of that?" Performance-chasing, momentum investing, trend-following, whatever you want to call it, [momentum in equities persists](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0927538X18303998?via%3Dihub#preview-section-references). But it actually works better with ETFs, being baskets of stocks in the same market or sector or whatever. And you named one of them, KWEB. Some others with options are ASHR, CNYA, CHIQ, ECNS, FXI, GXC, & MCHI. What I would do is plot 3 of those against each other and pick the 'best' one based on the price action. Plot 3 more, pick 1. Then the last 2, pick 1. That gives you 3 'best' of their group. Maybe plot those 3 against each other and pick the 'very' best one. Or probably better: invest in all 3. And if you think ETFs are boring, figure out the leverage that a 1-year, 80-delta Call on any of those tickers gives you. And don't wait for "an entry point," other than maybe a down day; but when you have cash, deploy it. Don't you wish now you'd just jumped into any of the tickers you named when they first came to your attention? Good luck!
At this juncture, some exposures to Chinese stocks are needed I personally would stick to ETFs such as $ASHR (Shanghai Index) and $FXI (Chinese stocks traded in HK). $KWEB is ok too, but only focuses on one sector For individual stocks, Tencent is absolutely my top pick. Xiaomi's (1810) CEO Lei Jun is very impressive, but the market knows that and the stock is very expensive
What if you used safer ETFs? 19Dec Calls at 80-delta on the likes of GDX, MAGS, and ASHR should pay nicely. Sell low-delta Calls against them if you want, for extra juice.
I'll add on to u/Krammsy's reply and say Yes also. But what is a "PMCC farm"? And it sounds like you may have too many positions on. I know that it's preached to us that we diversify ("diversify away the risk"), but at some point your return will just be that of SPY or whatever. To get excess return, I think you need to focus on the best-in-class investments. For me, that means 10 stocks, or 5 ETFs, as I laid out above. It sounds like you're thinking properly about non-correlation, but I'm not sure that doing it to an extreme is worth the extra effort. Here's how I do it, in case this helps: Running the same ETF screen as I did above, "has options," "500k volume", "sorted by 3-month performance," then just looking at charts, I start picking tickers like this: XME, SIL, --whoops-- "Isn't XME heavy in precious metals? It is, but keep it for now...GX "Silver Miners"... GDX "Gold Miners" ... SVXY "I don't like playing the VIX" ... MAGS, ASHR, KWEB ... "Whoops, there's another China." Like that, at a macro level, I certainly don't dig into their holdings. And to your last question: Yes. About 30 - 45 minutes each evening is what I spend across 3 accounts with 24 positions, though some are duplicates of each other. Mainly the 'tending' is setting up new CCs for tomorrow because the ones I had on came off with their GTC BTC orders. And then checking that the underlyings are behaving and that my long Calls haven't lost too much. It sounds to me like you're very much on the right track, but maybe back off on the analytics a bit. It really can be as simple as setting up those GTC BTC orders and selling new short Calls. And cutting the occasional position and screening for a new one. And the "screening" part, if it's mid-week, is usually just plowing freed-up cash into the best-performing instrument in that account. On the weekends I'll spend more time screening for new things and thinking strategically. Best of luck to you!
China is in a bubble. Margin loans are at a record high. I’m thinking of getting some FXI, MCHI, or ASHR puts tomorrow or early next week. I haven’t seen anyone mention Chinese stocks here forever, but that shit’s always been a house of cards. Looking at you LKNCY
I told you fools to buy China ASHR pumping and still not even close to previous high last year
UPS exactly zero So many stocks pinned to .8 this manipulation is hilarious it’s so god damn obvious How are half of my stocks exactly zero on the day without manipulating the market!? UPS PEGA GOOGL HON ROST ASHR These are not tiny stocks with low volume ASHR has been exactly at 26.8 for an entire month they only pump a couple stocks at a time then sell them off and pump more the next day options are in the worst state they have even been for buyers you are better off betting on micro caps and biotech lottery tickets Truly the most corrupt time in history
You see how China barely sold off? This is why I sold my IVV for IEMG and IXUS ASHR is you want to be spicy I’ve got lottery ticket calls for this one
Or ASHR for mainland KWEB is China tech
$QEFA Sometimes the entire country etf is value because the country is value. $KWEB $ASHR $TUR You can also invest in intl companies via adr or otc listings $NPSNY or maybe they’re just an international company listed here $PBR Finally, American companies with significant international revenue $CAT
Me too me too. I expect my Monday put to be zero, but I have calls on gold, silver, FXI, ASHR…. Eventually people will flock to FXI or KWEB or TCHI etc
So if we're trading Chinese stuff now... Do ASHR, MCHI, CHIQ, or FXI have stupid leveraged/inverse ETFs?
I’m so short on ASHR it’s not even funny
Yes, that is my original plan, so I hold a bunch of ADRs. [https://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=111&f=geo\_china&o=-marketcap](https://finviz.com/screener.ashx?v=111&f=geo_china&o=-marketcap) It is a safer bet to stay with ADRs and HK ETF such as FXI, MCHI or KWEB. However, I started to realize a riskier but potentially better bet is A-share, then we have to go study ASHR KSTR etc.
Just so you know FXI which is China version of SPY is up 2.5 today ASHR which is China version of DOW is up 1.7 China bull run started last week Keep buying US stocks at the top!
FXI up 2.5 ASHR up 1.7 SPY down QQQ flat Keep missing out!
ASHR BABA anything else? Been meaning to jump into China. Easy print the way things are headed.
Baba continues its rise ASHR for China economic recovery
I believe it so much I replaced my IVV with ASHR in my Roth
As a Chinese I can tell you the Chinese stock market takes both escalator and elevator down and usually elevator up. The chart looks like a Weierstrass function on LSD(see ticker ASHR). The variance of variance is very high. Mathematically pathological. Therefore the best idea is to stay away from leveraged stuff on it.
ASHR think people think👀
24 hours and 18 minutes til our lives have meaning again!!! Anybody do cool shit this weekend? I worked and plotted my plays for next week: NVDA strangles, WMT calendars, ASHR strangles, LCID strangles, F strangles, NIO puts and I'm holding UVIX shares just in case this week is the week it all gets DEEP ugly.
Chiiina baby. FXI and ASHR. Crouching tiger and hidden dragon.
Two days later and $FIX and $ASHR are crashing back down to earth because not even the Chinese believe in their crappy market.
MCHI or ASHR. It's not adr, but it represents the general China market.
next time just buy calls on FXI or ASHR. less clicking.
>Shenzhen stock market went up 9%. >BYD went down 9% on HK stock market but BYD went up 6.5% on Shenzhen stock market. I'm still figuring out this dual share stuff. Is Shenzen what's called the "A-shares" and HK the "H-shares"? If so why are the A-shares ETFs like ASHR & ASHS down even more than stuff like FXI & KWEB? Do they just switch to following the H-Shares when the A-shares are closed?
There is a US-listed ticker ASHR which tracks CSI300 index (Shanghai + Shenzen stocks) which was up like 25% during the time China was on holiday. So it's not a 5% uptick but a 20% dntick.
Why ASHR doesnt change price while Yinn changes?
They’re absolutely gonna dump bro. They just track the largest cap stocks on Shanghai and Shenzhen exchanges. I’ve been milking ASHR up until this morning and I’m 100% cash now.
Thank god i decided to clear YINN and get ASHR and Chau instead. Anyone know the overnight rate for these two? Are they dumping as well?
The volumn on CHAU and ASHR is absolutely bonkers....
you should try CHAU and ASHR, both have Shanghai and Shenzhen shares and are not as overpriced like YINN
ASHR hit an ATH of 49 back in 2014. Its now at 32.
My guess is domestic fiscal stimulus will lead the next wave up after big tech $KWEB. $FXI $MCHI $ASHR $CNXT
I just learned ASHR exists I might all in weeklies on it
ASHR tracks the Chinese stock index but only has weeklies. I’m not aware of any U.S.-listed China etf that has 0dtes.
Hey so I wouldn't be too upset about not being able to sell options on common stock. ETFs are an area with a number of benefits - There is typically a risk premium here because it's where people go to hedge their portoflios + it has correlated risk (all the benefits of it's diversification go away in a crash). - It doesn't carry the same jump and blow up risk as individual stock (doesn't get bought out, doesn't really go bankrupt) With that being said, the process I follow is that I am typically selling 30 DTE volatility on the tickers with the following criteria: - Positive long term VRP - Positive short term VRP - IV Percentile under 80 Or in laymans terms, there is a history of their being a positive return selling options and the current volatility environment is relatively normal, meaning we should reasonable expect to get the "average" premium return. To adjust for the fact that you have a small account, I added an extra filter: - The maximum stock price is $40. This makes it so that when you sell straddles the actual value of the straddle and the margin requirements are lower. So they are more suitable for your account. Here are the results - ASHR - FXI - UNG - KWEB - MSOS Note that you would only want to trade one from each sector so I would go ASHR, UNG and MSOS. Screenshot of the data from my scan [https://imgur.com/FeI6dHc](https://imgur.com/FeI6dHc) Note that in order to extract this premium you will need to delta hedge this position. You need to maintain your exposure to IV vs RV (not betting on stock going up or down) in order to extract this premium effectively. I would then look to close out the trade a couple days before expiration or if the volatility environment for the ticker changed (the stock starts moving like crazy compared to implied). note that I added the 1 day implied move to the chart for you so you know what it should be moving less than each day. Hope this helps and GL!
I have slowly accumulated a few Chinese stocks yet also recently increased my positions in ASHR and FXI and CQQQ Based on just the Chinese stocks I own those 3 ETFs equal 39.3 percent and the Chinese individual stocks equal 60.7 percent . The weighting from highest to lowest. BABA, ASHR, FXI, DIDIY, JD, TCEHY, CQQQ, CICOY, NIO.. All of those represent approximately 9-10 % of my stock holdings based on dollar value. Month to date the Chinese portion is up 7 percent Year to date the chinese portion is plus 2.7 percent Based on my total costs ( commissions included ) The Chinese portion of my portfolio is down 23.14 %
I'm fully invested in China. All my money transferred to ASHR. Won't be taking questions. 
New plan: We go short ASHR straddles, looks [expensive](https://thetatitans.com/monitor/) AF, and long ARKK. Cant go tits up.
ASHR 24P 12/22 because some dude on the internet suggested it and his recos usually are pretty good.
It seems like there might be an issue with the ASHR ETF. While ASHR is designed to track the performance of Chinese businesses and should ideally go up when the Chinese GDP increases, it's concerning to see that it has declined by 40% over the past few years despite China's GDP growth. This could be due to various factors such as poor fund management, underlying investments, or market conditions. I would recommend reaching out to a financial advisor or doing further research to understand the reasons behind this decline and evaluate if it's still a suitable investment for your portfolio.
It seems like there might be an issue with the ASHR ETF. While ASHR is designed to track the performance of Chinese businesses and should ideally go up when the Chinese GDP increases, it's concerning to see that it has declined by 40% over the past few years despite China's GDP growth. This could be due to various factors such as poor fund management, underlying investments, or market conditions. I would recommend reaching out to a financial advisor or doing further research to understand the reasons behind this decline and evaluate if it's still a suitable investment for your portfolio.
>and to go up when the Chinese GDP goes up Nope.. [ASHR tracks 300 companies](https://etf.dws.com/en-us/ASHR-harvest-csi-300-china-a-shares-etf/), not GDP. Why GDP went up much more than the stock market is an interesting question. Mostly has to do with gains coming from real estate, which is imploding now, versus financial assets on the markets. Currency devaluation has not helped either.
Bull trap has been set. 😈 Accumulate $SQQQ It’s a Bear market 📉 correction from the July highs. Better get puts on $KRE & $IWM and China $ASHR
ASHR, XBI, OXMU other reits are cheap too.
>1. I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Are you saying that the media is not reporting on this development? Or that they are downplaying it? 2. If this is true, then it could definitely have an impact on Chinese stocks. But we'll have to wait and see how things play out before making any decisions. 3. This would mean less consumption, which could hurt companies like BABA, NIO, PDD, EEM, ASHR etc. 4 .But again, we'll have to wait and see how things unfold before making any moves
1.4 billion people who work hard and love spending money. The middle class is growing. Think the SPY in 1970 is ASHR today.
Good gentleman, could you check your 1099 and see if ASHR is a section 1256 contract? (KWEB and FXI are--loving that 60/40 tax treatment). (Still waiting for some war news so I could pounce on selling naked PUTs on TSM).
Look for Chinese and Saudi ETFs that index their total market. I picked ASHR and KSA because they have a lot of volume but please do your own DD. I'm just a dude on Reddit.
ASHR calls is my thought.
Is it going to be good for my ASHR calls?
FXI ASHR ptsd flashbacks
anyone knows wtf is going on with $ASHR? China etf option volume going fucking mental since yesterday, re-opening play for China in the coming weeks and anticipating huge upside for Chinese equities? I mean it's wild looking at the call option flow
Vol on BABA 12/2 75c yesterday is why I decided to jump into ASHR/FXI atm 11/18 calls
ANYONE IN ASHR? FLOW IS 100% calls
Thinking about buying FXI or ASHR calls before close as a completely degenerate play on a China dead cat bounce.
This is a short vol play plain and simple. You should absolutely be hedging deltas, otherwise the trade has other characteristics that you are not addressing. If you don’t hedge, IV can be 10 and you can still lose money. Other than that, go for it. I don’t know anything about ASHR or the Shanghai market, so I have no opinion on why IV tends to be higher than realized vol. Just make sure you have a hedging strategy, whether it be hedging at EOD daily or at every X % the underlying moves or whatever you want.
Well I’ve got a bunch of ASHR outs so hopefully China can keep diving. But I really regret selling my UVXY calls. Thought they’d pop this ponzi again before cpi
ASHR 32p 7/29. what gives?
Load up on ASHR August 19 option 🫡
Anybody selling calls on ASHR?
Any recommendations for similar holdings that would make for a good exchange from VXUS and ASHR for the purpose of tax loss harvesting? Thanks!
think they mix HK stock with NYSE or NASDAQ, the latter would be ADRS so Cayman Island toilet paper. its not tech only but I think these etfs are HK and Shanghai exchange trades, but need to double check. ASHR - Xtrackers Hvst CSI 300 China A-Shs ETF (Shangai) EWH - iShares MSCI Hong Kong ETF (Hong Kong) MSCI - iShares MSCI China ETF (China via - Hong Kong Exchange)
YANG fucking flying. Hopefully good for my ASHR puts
MCHI, GXC, ASHR, CNYA, etc. There's a list here on https://etfdb.com/index/ftse-china-50-index/
KBA, ASHR, or FXI. China.
Rip YANG gang, they're out here fighting long ladders for their lives this morning. FXI and ASHR ripping
I bought ASHR & FXI puts through January. I’m with you. Even Xi Jinping can’t hold this house of cards forever
I'm not a financial advisor and this is not financial advice Leveraged / Inverse ETF products are meant to be held for intraday trading. It's not meant to be held overnight due to daily reset and heavy drawdowns. Be careful using YANG. China can be down 1% tomorrow and you'd still lose money. I'm holding YANG directionally in the day, selling by EOD, and holding long puts on stuff like ASHR/MCHI/FXI/EWH
hey u/BIRBIGD99, fucking fantastic write-up. you've nailed all the important points while keeping it succinct and crystal clear. question for you - while I agree there really is no upside for Chinese securities even in the event of a bailout, have you considered any ways of hedging your short position if they do? I imagine YANG calls, shorting ASHR/EWH will all take a (likely momentary) hit if there is some positive news out of the CCP, but I'm trying to suss out some secondary plays to hedge/profit on the bailout itself as well. one of my theories was calls on UUP as the USD will strengthen and be solidified as the ONLY global reserve currency and safety haven (RMB devalued, OBOR initiatives flagging and exposed countries looking for a way out, dollar-denominated bonds needing USD to resolve), but this has its own risks as the Fed reacts to the situation and our own domestic tribulations. either way, I don't see how there's any bullish thesis on Chinese securities left. at best, their domestic RE market gets rescued but Xi uses this as an opportunity to double-down on the anti-western-values rhetoric, and international investors (BLK) finally learn their mistakes and pack up their (heavy, heavy...) bags and head home. cheers
ASHR Oct Puts definitely the play
Short ASHR basically or Wynn
cant trust the ccp. they fucked me for the last time back in early 2020 rona trying to buy puts on FXI and ASHR
Not lucky. I saw Najarian opened up a new position on CNBC’s Halftime report. “Puts on ASHR”. Follow the smart money 🤷🏻
Good morning degenerates... ASHR puts bailed out my bad spy/qqq calls yesterday. Hoping the calls bounce back this morning
EWH is the iShares Hong Kong ETF ASHR is A shares only (chinese stocks listed directly on Shanghai / Shenzen. stuff that isnt listed elsewhere) FXI is A50 (top 50 china by market cap. includes BABA and Tencent and others not on Shanghai / Shenzen) KWEB is mostly ADR, all China tech
I love eggs my dude. Anyways ASHR puts all day everyday
>ASHR ​https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/ASHR/chart?p=ASHR
Baba, tencent, JD, Ping An, ASHR, Shanghai international. load it up!
ASHR follows the Shanghai index. It is like buying the spy in 1980's right now.
No they are not. Ticker ASHR its also the 4th ETF listed on your website.
The Shanghai index would be closest, ASHR. It is like the SPY in the 1970's. Should be a good retirement play.
I’ve always thought this Wuhan lab was sus. My own TDS and dissociating with his loyalists kept me mum. Saw Jon Stewart was just on Colbert calling it out. I dont know what the truth is, if we’ll ever know or if it matters, but this seems like a topping point for sentiment toward China. This will embolden the already conspiracy minded and now give permission for all the liberals that they can stop self censoring now too. Short $ASHR for a while with my entire margin
This is a fine strategy. I've been doing this strategy for a long time now and it's been very good to me. I recommend this strategy to all young people I meet. I'm a little surprised you posted it here, as it's the opposite of r/wsb. This is a multi-decade strategy. If compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world, this strategy is compound interest on steroids. Once you fully grasp the strategy and see it in action, you will understand what it means to have money make money for you. This is a strategy that can build multi-generational wealth and makes you look at risk and time horizon a totally different way. Some thoughts: * The first decade is slow. It will pick up. The longer you put money into the strategy, the quicker it accelerates. Time is most definitely your friend here. You need to stay disciplined and still buy when market corrects. You will realize buying the dips will be the best thing you do. My 2020 purchases have been very good to me. * This strategy is not cheap, especially with SPY. For 2 year LEAPs, that's about 2-3k a month for 1 contract. That's a commitment to save/invest 3k a month. * I buy 2 year LEAPs at 40 delta. I started off with 40 delta and like I said, it's been good to me, so no reason to change/try to optimize. Like you said, it just makes sense. Slightly OTM. The thing is, the delta doesn't mean much when it's 2 years out. No one can predict the future. It doesn't mean you have 60% chance of losing your money. * There will be months where your strike will be worthless. However, the months you are ITM more than make up the loss. The worst condition for this strategy is sideways. As long as the market goes up and down, there will be strikes that are ITM. So it actually doesn't matter if market makes new high or not. The market doesn't stay sideways for the entire 2 years. People that are talking about recession don’t really understand the strategy. If the market drops, 40 delta means your strike is also lower. You move with the market. 2008/2009 means 40 delta you bought back in 2006/2007. So yes, the 2007 was a wasted year. However, whatever you bought in 2008 onwards, you would have made bank in 2010. People are criticizing this strategy as if it was riskless. There is no such thing as riskless in the market. Because of leverage (options), you will not be worst off than DCA in underlying. You are always buying low and selling high. You will always be catching the lows. People criticizing the strategy aren’t comparing it to a benchmark. They’re looking to time the market and never lose. This in itself is a fallacy. * I stick with Jan expiry; makes the process easier and keeps it simple. Specifically, I buy Jan 2023 until Nov 2021. On Dec 2021, I buy the Jan 2024 expiry. You end up with a ladder of strikes. I buy the same number of contracts, so it's not truly DCA in the sense it's not a fixed dollar amount per month. You won't be able to buy a fixed dollar amount like in stocks. I also buy 2nd Friday of the month. 3rd Friday of the month is when monthlies expire, so a bit more volatility. Ultimately, it doesn't really matter, because you're buying something 2 years out, but it makes sense to buy at the same time each month. Additionally, each subsequent month costs approximately the same/little bit less. Even though you’re buying at 40 delta, you’re paying for less time (theta) but IV might be higher/lower. * First 2 years you're just buying. Like I said, it starts off slow. Come Dec, when your first set of purchases is about to expire, you budget what you need for the upcoming year. Any money remaining, you buy the actual shares. These shares are basically your profit, and cost is effectively 0. Put these on DRIP. It also means you will have 11 months worth of money in cash after December that you then drawdown. * You start buying again with the money you cashed out from your first set. If you keep on adding money, in theory, you can now buy double the contracts that you did in the first 2 years. * Rinse and repeat. Take the profit out and convert into actual shares. Initially, it won't be many shares, but if you stick to it, the number of shares you buy each year will grow. * Once you've accumulated some shares, you can start using margin and buy more LEAPs. Use margin wisely. The last thing you want to happen is getting margin called and your options forced sold. Don't get greedy. * SPY is a great choice. This strategy works best for index. In addition to SPY, I also do ASHR, FXI, VGK, VWO. Works for individual stocks too, but must be something you're super long term bullish. Imagine if you did this with the FANGs. * Do it in a ROTH if you can As I said, this strategy is DCA on steroids; you're using leverage and margin to turbo charge your investment. Hope this helps. Good luck! 🙏
What does it mean for China to open its capital markets further? I see articles about China pledging to "open its capital markets" to foreign investors But as an individual investor, I can already invest in Chinese stocks through ETFs like MCHI, FLCH, and ASHR. I understand the caveat that some of these stocks are not owning actual shares of the company. So then is the pledge to open its capital markets related to how share ownership works, or is it about making more companies (that are currently unavailable to foreigners to invest in) available for investment? If so, what are some example companies that are currently inaccessible? For that matter, why would some companies currently be unavailable and others are available through the above ETFs? And what percent of the theoretical "total market cap" is currently accessible?