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Dovish?? The man basically said "You are all on your own" with his tone. But I agree. The printing is NEVER gonna stop. I'm just not buying US stocks. I just bought $EWJ (Japan) and $INDA (India). I wanted to buy more $EWY but it didn't fall enough. But I have an open limit order there. The world is about to tell America "You are all on your own with your dumb war".
GDP growth and stock market returns aren't nearly as correlated as most people assume. This is one of the most persistent myths in investing, and the data consistently disproves it. Jay Ritter's research at UF found a *negative* correlation (-0.37) between per-capita GDP growth and equity returns across 19 countries over a century-plus dataset. Here's what I've seen drive that disconnect in practice. India's public markets suffer from significant value leakage between GDP output and what shareholders actually capture. Foreign institutional ownership is at a 15-year low, with FPIs pulling roughly ₹1.3 lakh crore in recent outflows. MSCI India has underperformed MSCI EM by about 25% on a rolling one-year basis, the steepest gap in nearly three decades. The Buffett Indicator for India sits around 116%, suggesting modest overvaluation even after the correction. The core issue: GDP measures total economic output, but equity returns depend on earnings growth *per share*, capital allocation, dilution, governance, and what price you paid going in. Indian companies historically dilute shareholders more aggressively than US firms, and a larger share of economic growth accrues to private and state-owned enterprises that never touch public indices. The commenter flagging Arvind Subramanian's PIIE study raises a real point too. India's GDP figures likely overstate actual growth. For broad Indian exposure, INDA (iShares MSCI India) is the most liquid option, but consider that valuations at 17.8x forward PE are just now approaching reasonable entry territory. Dollar-cost averaging here makes more sense than a lump sum given the volatility profile.
The biggest culprit is currency depreciation. If you look at Indian indices like the Nifty 50 in local currency, the returns are actually massive. But US-listed ETFs have to convert those Rupees back to Dollars, and the Rupee has consistently lost value against the USD over the last decade. That currency bleed eats up a huge chunk of your gains. Also, a country's stock market is not its economy. A ton of India's GDP growth happens in the informal sector, agriculture, and private businesses that aren't publicly traded. Meanwhile, the S&P 500 crushes US GDP growth because American mega-cap tech companies pull in massive global revenues, not just domestic ones. Indian companies also tend to issue lots of new shares to fund their rapid expansion, which dilutes the return per share even as the overall market cap grows. If you want broad exposure, INDA is the standard large-cap fund. A lot of people prefer EPI though, because it weights by earnings instead of market cap and holds a wider variety of mid and small caps to better capture the actual local economy. If you want to bet directly on faster-growing domestic businesses, SMIN is a solid choice for Indian small caps.
Anyone else short INDA (India)?
USO and UCO don’t own oil. They own futures contracts that they roll every month. In contango (next month’s contract costs more than this month’s), every roll is a guaranteed loss — sell low, buy high, repeat. That roll cost runs 2-3% per month, compounding to 20-30% annual drag. This is how USO returned only 15% over three years despite multiple oil spikes. UCO is 2x worse because it doubles the roll cost AND adds volatility decay from daily rebalancing. In a choppy market, which a war-driven oil market absolutely is, a 2x leveraged product can lose money even when the underlying goes up. Day 1: oil +5%, UCO +10%. Day 2: oil -5%, UCO -10%. Net: oil -0.25%, UCO -1.0%. That asymmetry compounds relentlessly. If you want to express a bullish oil view without contango eating you alive, look at equity proxies: XLE, XOP for broad energy, or individual E&Ps like EOG, AR, EQT that own physical reserves and benefit from higher realized prices without the roll bleed. Or if you want the short side of the oil shock, play the countries that can’t survive $100 oil INDA (India) imports 90% of its crude, half through Hormuz, and is at its 52-week low with record capital outflows. The worst thing you can do is buy UCO thinking you’re “leveraged long oil” and hold it for months. That’s not a position — it’s a donation to the futures curve. I learned the hard way playing with MSTU and UVXY until I did the math, they always went down harder and bounced back weaker so not really 2x
And that’s just the war. Here’s what INDA bulls don’t want to talk about: India’s crown jewel — IT outsourcing — is getting eaten alive by AI, and the war is accelerating the timeline. India’s tech services sector is 29% of INDA’s weighting through financials and IT combined. Infosys, Wipro, TCS, HCL — these are glorified body shops that bill $50-80/hr for work that Claude and GPT are starting to do for pennies. Every Fortune 500 CTO who was already quietly running AI pilots just got handed a $100/barrel reason to slash their outsourcing budgets. When your CFO is screaming about energy costs and margin compression, the first thing that gets cut is the $200M Infosys contract, not the $2M AI subscription. The numbers are already showing up. Indian IT hiring has been declining for six straight quarters. TCS reported zero net hiring last quarter. Cognizant is cutting 3,500. Wipro guided down. The sector that was supposed to make India the next economic superpower is running straight into the buzzsaw of AI replacement at the exact moment that oil is blowing up India’s current account. And it gets worse. India’s entire economic narrative — young demographics, digital transformation, services economy leadership — is predicated on being the world’s back office. AI doesn’t need a back office. Every AI model that gets 1% better is another 10,000 Indian IT jobs that don’t get created. McKinsey estimated 5 million Indian tech jobs at risk by 2028. That was BEFORE the current generation of coding agents shipped. So you’ve got: ∙ Oil import bill exploding (Hormuz closed, Russian oil now $95 not $50) ∙ Rupee in freefall against the dollar ∙ Record foreign institutional outflows ∙ SEBI regulatory tightening April 1 ∙ Russian waiver expiring April 4 ∙ IT outsourcing — the growth engine — being disrupted by AI ∙ Six quarters of declining tech hiring ∙ CTA/MTP signals at -100/-100 (double max short) The war is the catalyst. AI is the structural story nobody’s pricing. Together they’re a vise grip on the Indian economy from both sides — cyclical destruction of the energy-dependent present AND secular destruction of the services-dependent future. India at $49 isn’t cheap. It’s a value trap with a $100/barrel oil bill and an AI extinction event hitting its only competitive advantage simultaneously. Sep puts. Not financial advice. I eat crayons for breakfast.
INDA puts. India imports 5 million barrels/day, 40% through Hormuz which is effectively closed. Iran “let through” 2 Indian tankers yesterday out of 37 stuck — congrats India, you solved 5% of your problem. Meanwhile overnight: Kharg Island bombed, Fujairah oil hub literally on fire (that’s the BYPASS port), Baghdad Green Zone hit and Americans told to evacuate overland, and Mojtaba Khamenei reportedly “wounded and disfigured.” India got a 30-day waiver to buy Russian oil that expires April 4. SEBI regulatory catalyst hits April 1. Rupee getting obliterated by dollar strength + oil import bill exploding. Record FII outflows, analysts calling it a “no-buyer phase.” INDA sitting near its 52-week low at $49 and every macro indicator screaming lower. The bull case is “India will negotiate its way out.” The bear case is math. Sep puts.
The Iraq angle is under-discussed. Iraq’s crude goes through Basra, which feeds directly into the Gulf and out through Hormuz. They’re already shutting in production because there’s literally nowhere to send it. Kuwait declared force majeure. Qatar halted gas production after Iranian drone strikes on Ras Laffan. But here’s the second-order trade nobody’s talking about: India. India imports 85-90% of its oil, half through Hormuz. 60% of its LPG (cooking fuel for hundreds of millions) through the same corridor. 8 weeks of strategic reserves. Modi just called Iran for the first time since the war started — basically begging for safe passage for 28 stranded Indian ships. Goldman called India’s inventory cushion “much lower” than other Asian markets. INDA (iShares MSCI India ETF) is at $48, literally 1 penny from its 52-week low. Foreign investors already pulled a record $16.4B from Indian equities in 2025 and the selling has accelerated in 2026. It’s the most oil-vulnerable major economy in the world right now, and it’s barely on anyone’s radar here. September puts look interesting if you think Hormuz stays contested into summer.
USO/UCO is the lazy play and contango will eat you alive if this drags on. The smarter second-order trade is shorting the countries that can’t survive $90-100 oil. India (INDA) is the most exposed large economy on the planet right now — 85-90% oil import dependent, half through Hormuz, 8 weeks of reserves. Already at 52-week lows with record FII outflows. There’s also an under-the-radar catalyst on April 1 where India’s securities regulator (SEBI) forces all gold and silver ETFs to reprice off domestic Indian spot instead of London benchmarks. Indian gold ETF inflows already surpassed equity mutual fund inflows in January for the first time ever. You’re basically watching $365 billion in Indian savings rotate from stocks into metals in real time. INDA September puts are the higher-conviction expression of the oil thesis without fighting contango.
#TLDR --- Ticker: INDA Direction: Down 📉 Prognosis: Buy September Puts Catalyst: India has no oil, foreign money is fleeing, and an April 1st rule change will make domestic investors dump stocks for shiny rocks (gold/silver). Author's Diet: Crayons for breakfast 🖍️
While the [West](https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiana/comments/1nqa72x/indianapolis_residents_have_shut_down_a_proposed/) [rallies](https://www.reddit.com/r/Syracuse/comments/1or5w3c/micron_chip_factories_in_upstate_ny_will_be/) [against](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskEurope/comments/1r63k0h/how_do_europeans_feel_about_the_data_center/) building more advanced infrastructure and getting highly-paid jobs, India and the developing world receive them with open arms. Short $SPY and $IEUR. Long $EEM, $INDA, $EWZ
India market is controlled by SEBI (like US SEC), they are very conservative on companies, regulated. Unlike here in USA, wildness is less. There is one catch, USA when IPOs comes of founder's stake is less (say less than 25%), but in india founder may hold even 75% and they run the company. Mostly, the companies have tie-ups or founders from European or USA experienced Indians. If you can collect data and work with DCF methodlogy, Indian companies growth are better, however currency is always getting devalued against USD. I have seen USD to INR from INR 8/USD to now INR 92/USD last 40 years. Another aspect, it is not easy to open investment account from abroad (too many compliance requirement and impossible to retailers). Other than this, my old friends are invested in mutual funds and even gained 35% YOY CAGR. Last 5 years had been phenomenal growth in India and next five to ten years may have good growth. If you are in USA or EUROPE, better to invest in US ADRs like **NFTY**, INDA, INDY and **FLIN** to protect currency fluctuation. The bold two are better than other twos. Good Luck and Happy investing.
Nope been looking at “INDA” absolute dogwater returns as even though their stocks keep going up their currency falls at par
The corollary of "buy the dip" is "sell on good news." When there's good news and one of your stocks shoots up, sell it. NO REGERTS. Did I get out of ONDA "too early"? I don't care! Should have I kept holding OKLO? Hard to regret the huge profit I took. Put the after-tax leftovers in PDI (paying huge interest every month consistently for years, no idea how they do it), or a good utility like AES or DUK, or an international staple like HEINY, or if you're feeling speculative, put some in a foreign ETF like EWY (Korea) or INDA or even VNAM. Holding this American tech stuff forever though is going to hurt real bad at some point. Maybe. Except for my RKLB of course - NEVER SELLING.
INDA pump due to news of US withdrawing tariffs. US markets down-ish due to Govt. Shut Down. Bitcoin sideways between 85-95. Gold 5.5 before reversal. Speculation spills into Silver and Copper
I do not know where you are from, US or UK or elsewhere? If you are in foreign country (even if Indian citizen) earning other than INR, better to invest ETFs like INDA ([iShares MSCI India ETF](https://www.ishares.com/us/products/239659/ishares-msci-india-etf)) or similar so that USD to INR **currency devaluation** is protected and you pay tax here (in USA - assuming you are in USA).
core international ETFs, EZU for Eurozone, INDA for india, look them up for whatever regional tilt you want... Also individual foreign companies (for instance, I wear Siemans hearing aides and they've saved my life so I invested a bunch in SIEGY a number of years ago. Looking at LVMF right now... I'm about 70% US and 20% international and 10% gold
I think emerging markets out perform everyone this year. I am primarily investing in IEMG and supplementing with FLLA, DRGN, and INDA to increase exposure in certain geography and sectors. I will be increasing my holding in IEMG and VEA (international developed) over the next 3 months. This will put my international holding at about 45%. I have sold all US with the exception of utilities (FUTY), low volatility (USMV), and a few individual healthcare stocks. My plan is to re-enter the s&p 500 in the later half of 2026.
Keep your Nvidia. Start focusing on some ETFs like QQQ and VOO and maybe add a few more single stocks like TSM, Google, and Amazon. Make sure you also diversify geographically (GMF and INDA?) as well as industry-wise.
Hear me out, we have to short INDA, once all of customer service gets replaced by AI what will they all do?
There are still a lot of stocks that are undervalued, you just have to find them. COLD and KIM are solid REITs, WFRD, EPD, IXC are in the energy sector (lots of energy stocks have good value) - don't buy EPD in a tax deferred account as it's a master limited partnership, and the K-1 losses won't benefit you, and that's an important piece of it's value. INDA is an ETF focused on India, it's near a low because of tariffs. They are out there...
Mexico, China, Canada, Europe most exposed and probably in that order. Brazil, Poland/Eastern Europe, India are where I'm allocating for less exposure. High conviction on Brazil (EWZ) and India (INDA) as they are independent, secular growth stories.
DD: buy calls on SCI, and calls on INDA. https://x.com/Slatzism/status/1969355821285859738?t=P19FwrpBSQYA9fyrdMG7EA&s=19
# all in INDA calls 🥭 gonna 🌮 over the weekend
India is doing fiscal stimulus and probably central bank easing, though I haven't looked into the latter much. INDA probably has some legs and some weakness in EU / USD assets
# Trump says no summit deal with Putin over Ukraine war, talks were 'very productive' | Reuters India: NO NO NO NOOOOOOOO Looks like someone is getting further sanctions. Puts on INDA/INDY
No that should just be a normal everyday thing. !p INDA
Okay so puts on INDA and INDY seems like a good play because both 🥭 and Elmo are both starting shit with India. Good, good. good.
INDA is the ETF I bought puts on INFY today
Calls on INDA more tariffs = more gains
Bought a shitload of INDA puts. You Namaste Only Once. Can't wait for them to expire worthless
# lmao the market is so over all this bullshit, 🌮 I’m gonna raise India tariffs and INDA rallies 😂
he just gave me my game plan! SOXS shares, RXD shares, LABD shares, and more puts on INDA. thanks daddy dump!!
puts on INDA are too easy right?
60% of my salary goes into a mix of VGT VOO MCHI INDA IBIT every month
INDA is my main one, I also hold EEMA which is 21% Indian stocks.
Brkb, Amzn, Msft, BA , INDA (India ETF), RTX. Riskier. Nflx, pct, Asts, Joby. Riskiest. Tsla, rocket lab If they come to market soon space X and anduril.
VTI and chill "Vanguard Total Index" all the stocks, low fees. No thinking. Safeish middle of the road. IMHO should be your benchmark. What is going to do better than that? SPY S+P500, but that's all large cap, and they don't need more cap, and might be a bit of a pyramid. Could be better returns than VTI, but also a bit more risk. QQQ, Nasdaq, tech stocks, bigger returns, but more overvalued than SPY, and for that a bit riskier. HYSA is safer, so might be better, but, only 1% if that better than inflation usually it is less than inflation. Only thing worse would be a safety deposit box. ibonds I still like. I think guaranteed 1.1% above inflation now. In 2019, getting 1.1% on anything safe was genius, savings accounts were paying 0.5%. Can't touch it for a year, which is good and bad. Only $10k/year, which is a little limiting. Might be state tax exempt. Then you get to weird stuff. I like EWG, like a German index fund. Dollar is strongish against Euro now, and if it stops doing that, like because of tariffs or whatever, then that's a little bump. German companies have nice PE ratios. INDA is similar, but India. India is 1B people and industrializing, so the market in general has potential GDP is growing than US, there's a lot of growth potential there. As long as they don't get spicy with the Pakis. I have stock in the bank I bank at. Big solid institution "too big to fail" pays a dividend. Might not grow a lot, but pays a dividend. Similar with my local utility. Pays about as good as real estate, and could also go up in price too. Then, I'll do month trading. Like sometimes buy the hot ticket for a thou. I've mainly lost on this, but whatever, makes me feel big time, and it is only a few hundo. When I lose the losses offset for the tax man. Also look at "tax loss havesting" like switching from VO to VB or SPY to QQQ Look at companies you know professionally. Like how is Sysco doing? If you're in that business, you might know better than me, and have a bit of an edge there, watching your particular industry's news. Having a couple thou in cash on hand, and not visit an ATM for a few months, and use it for restaurants and local businesses, avoid that 3% credit card fee markup on ordinary spending. If you're getting paid in cash though, you might already be doing that. How much into each is about what you believe, and your tolerance for risk vs. your desire for reward, but mix it up a bit, and cover all your bases. Look at tax advantaged accounts like Roth and HSA, and definitely 401k going forward if you have income.
BYDDY (EV future) UBER (autonomous upside) GOOG (overpunished, AI and waymo upside even if search is beat) Meta (massive ads moat because of users and adtech stack) NFLX (room to bundle more value and go upto cable pricing, consumers unlikely to cancel, ads tier as - large backup) SPOT (similar story to Netflix) INDA (emerging market bet; expense ratio is not great but very few India etfs in the US) All that said, 80%+ of my investments are in s&p 500.
Someone bought 5,000 $56 strike Calls for INDA (India etf), Expiry Sept. 19, 2025... could it be someone knows a trade deal is coming? lol
If you're interested in investing in India, it's worth considering going with an active strategy. The average portfolio manager investing in India over the last ten years has outperformed the Nifty500 by 3%. UNFORTUNATELY, there aren't many quality active Indian equity strategies available in the US. So INDA from iShares is a decent bet. The India story is super compelling. I used to work with a portfolio manager from Mumbai, helping sell their strategy to institutions across North America. High GDP growth rate Consumption-driven GDP growth World's 5th largest economy Largest single country contribution to global working age population 60% of the population is below 30 Low debt as a % of GDP Low inflation relative to other emerging markets (3.16%)
True I just assumed that one of my brokerage accounts would allow me to purchase a corresponding ETF. Closest I could find is INDA which follows the MSCI India Index
Puts on ETF's like INDA. INDA ETF for India-related investments. Made about 30% yesterday.
INDA moving overnight. Possible trade deal coming for India tomorrow ?
What’s your he volume on INDA? Like 20?
Puts on India. I loaded INDA puts 
Well… it’s that time again. Cut positions before the Bit correction. Bought some at the bottom and now I am rotating into diversification into China, INDA, and maybe UAE.
Just when I started hyping India as the big winner from the US China trade war. My $INDA doesn’t like this.
INDA ETF and see ya in some years
Long INDA. They'll win.
Chat gpt AND Grok talked me out of buying INDA last week 😂
thought $INDA would be more INDGUH by now 
That is well well priced in India already made a deal with Trump Look at INDA
Glad I have spy leaps, but my shares of INDA and GLD aren't going to do well tomorrow. Risk off it seems. Time to join the rotation.
I'm all out, I recently bought INDA
Who of you are loading up on INDA puts right now?
thank you India thank you providence thank you thank you my calls INDA
update, INDA up nearly 1% on statement from Pakistan officials that nuclear weapons are not a first option
INDA up 1% on news india invasion of pakistan (whom China will back, reportedly) is imminent.
holding a ton of INDA (India ETF) Modi is part of the global right-wing clique. That will govern the trade deals much more than actual trade deals
Yeah but everyone loses in a trade war… to what degree we will have to see. As the dollar loses trust, it has no heir apparent, any fiat currency to take its place has decades worth of trust to build with solid stable trade policy…in the meantime I thin gold is the place holder. That being said, INDA to hold low PE for the rupee sounds good, if Canada takes further steps to decouple from the US, maybe EWC is a good proxy for CAD, EWJ for the yen…for the euro EUAD would not just be euro but specifically aerospace which sounds better than a pure currency hedge.
Up about 50% ytd because I was 100% short on liberation day. I was up about 150% at one point. I think we’re nearing the next top and am loading shorts again, but have a long on INDA that will hopefully print on news of a trade deal.
India deal incoming supposedly. Just bought calls on INDA. Let’s go!!!
I’m just shorting the dollar now. Might go long INDA and I’ll hold this long on MP unless i get stopped out.
Every day I add another 100 shares of INDA (India ETF) because I think it's going to do a lot of the Gyna-replacing. Don't follow supply chains, follow political ideology. Modi and Trump both push different forms of the same basic noveau-fascist ideology. This administration will only make the bare minimum relations with anyone outside that right-wing circle. All the "look at this great deal" announcements will come from those right-wing nations.
MCHI, INDA, IBIT, DBS SP (Cause I’m Singaporean)
SOXS, SQQQ, and SH. SH is my safe bet. I also invested in INDA and VGK, but those were not inverse. I was just trying to diversify outside of the US.
INDA and GLD still looking good. Ez day. Cya tomorrow.
I’ve been accumulating more INDA. India seems well positioned to benefit from a US-China great power battle, and I’ve heard a lot of anecdotes about manufacturing shifting there in search of a more tariff friendly emvironment,
#According to Bloomberg the next thing JD will touch is in the Indian leader, PUUUTS ON INDA
Playbook for a while.. INDA and GLD. Pretty simple and obvious.
I'd look at the euro etf similar to the S&P 500, like VGK, EZU, FEZ, STOXX. Maybe an INDA, or INDY if you think the tarrifs are 2+ years and India get more transfer directly. I am going rebalance with new funds in portfolio to ~30% EURO/India.
There is always money to be made. Stock market will plunge, but gold will moon. Load up on GLD.. While you're at it, jump in on some INDA. INDiA will be the new China.
When Trump illegally fires Powell INDA and GLD are going to moon. LFG! I'm positioned for it!
GLD and INDA still doing well.
I am investing in India via INDA. Historically in a fight between an descending great power and a rival, neutral third parties benefit the most. India, with a massive consumer population overtaking China, a semi-democratic politics, and ambitions to become a great power itself, is the best positioned to benefit in my opinion.
If you want to make money then it's GLD and INDA.
#How the fuck is INDA only down 0.25% on the day, they about to be the biggest recipient of reciprocal tariffs
Or IDEV, SCHY, VEA, SCHF, etc...I think they wanted country-specific ETFs though like FCHL, INDA, EWJ, or EWU. i may be mistaken. VXUS is a good and very broad option if they want maximum exposure.
Going defensive. XLE, ITA, PAVE, COMT, GLD. Thinking of INDA for some additional non-US exposure. Im thinking not just recession, but major geopolitical disruption. Commodities for stagflation or reserve status loss, ITA/XLE for war.
Just make sure you use a tax advantaged account, then buy ETFs maybe go 60% US 40% rest of the world and decide whichever ones suit you, maybe you are bullish India and so you make 15% of your portfolio INDA or something along those lines, most things Charles Schwab are pretty good but you are also young and can afford to play with risk either being a tech ETF or not individual stocks which if you think are of a high enough quality you can just leave them to compound - e.g. something like Visa or Amazon which is practically universally designated by analysts as a buy. I would probably say that is it unless you are looking for income from your investments but from the sounds of it that is not the case. And good luck *this is not financial advice yadda yadda yadda
I diversify with vxus alongside regional etfs inside my Roth IRA. Mexico EWW, Canada EWC, Japan DXJ and EWJ, Finland EFNL, Poland EPOL, Argentina ARGT, India INDA and EPI. Been with these for three years now. India is down a bit past few months though but I’m holding until retirement. I’d check out some of the different regional ETFs, there’s several of different countries with different specifics.