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Photon Control: A Virtuoso Performer In The Semiconductor Industry ($PHO.TO) ($POCEF)
Photon Control: A Virtuoso Performer In The Semiconductor Industry (PHO.TO) (POCEF)
First DD TSX:PHO not the Vietnamese noodle, but a semiconductor industry company from Canada
This ETF outperformed SPY!(Investing in water)
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I have been DCAing many mineral mining stocks like HL, CDE, AEM and the like. Recently got into energy ETFs like PHO and VDE. also WM is always good to DCA in my opinion. That said, I decided to sell all my tech stock (42 NVDA and AMD, RIGHT before the AMD spike over $200=(....... But I moved a lot of that capital into my Robinhood account where I've been DCAing all those I mentioned (and some I didn't) PLUS selling options on TSLL. Been getting 10%/month on average since August so.... Can't complain yet
If I sold the amount share he did, this would [me](https://youtube.com/shorts/7XKq6_cC_8U?si=TFMPwFTJRUcE2PHO)
I felt pretty happy in uitilities the last 3 months rotating but now I'm realizing they'll probably take a beating (energy anyway) from reduced future usage when the phantom datacenters in the sky don't materialize. they'll still be making money and still pay a dividend at least. I recommend water. PHO and CGW.
Yes. I'm primarily going to focus on green tech etfs now, like PHO.
For a water ETF, check out $PHO. For those who don't know, yes you can invest in water.
The global bottled water market is projected to grow from $292.6 billion in 2025 to $509 billion by 2030, driven by rising demand for clean water, health-conscious consumers, and sustainability trends. Major players like Nestlé, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, and Danone dominate, but Primo Water (PRMW) offers a focused investment opportunity with strong growth potential. This DD explores why water stocks are worth considering, with a focus on Primo Water as a high-potential pick, alongside safer options like Coca-Cola and water-focused ETFs. **Why Invest in Bottled Water?** The bottled water market is a stable, growing sector with strong fundamentals: Market Growth: The global bottled water market is expected to grow at a 6.4% compound annual growth rate (CAGR) from 2025 to 2030, reaching $509 billion. Still water (74% of the market) and sparkling water (7.9% CAGR) are both expanding, driven by health trends and demand in emerging markets. Consumer Trends: Consumers are shifting from sugary drinks to bottled water, with U.S. per capita consumption rising from 31.6 gallons in 2013 to 46.4 gallons in 2023. Global Demand: Over 2.2 billion people lack access to safe drinking water, boosting demand in Asia-Pacific (44.5% market share) and developing regions. Climate and Urbanization: Water scarcity and urban growth are increasing reliance on bottled water, especially in regions with unreliable tap water. **Major Players in the Market** The bottled water market is competitive, with four major companies holding significant shares and a large "others" category including private labels and regional players. Here’s the breakdown: Nestlé (NSRGY): Estimated 20–25% global market share. Brands include Nestlé Pure Life, Perrier, and San Pellegrino. North America accounts for ~56% of its water sales. Nestlé’s planning to spin off its water business in 2025, which could impact its exposure but create a new investment opportunity. Dividend yield: ~3%. Coca-Cola (KO): Estimated 15–20% share, led by Dasani (12% of still water), Smartwater, and Topo Chico. A defensive stock with a 2.86% dividend yield and a $305 billion market cap, backed by Berkshire Hathaway’s $27.6 billion stake. PepsiCo (PEP): Estimated 10–15% share with Aquafina and LIFEWTR. Water is a smaller part of its portfolio (58% of revenue from snacks), but innovations like carbon capture bottling add upside. Dividend yield: ~3%. Danone (DANOY): Estimated 10–15% share, with premium brands like Evian and Volvic. Strong in Europe and focused on sustainable packaging. Dividend yield: ~3.5%. Others (~35%): Includes private labels (25–30% of the market), Nongfu Spring (China), Bisleri (India), and smaller players like Primo Water. **Investment Pick: Primo Water (PRMW)** For a targeted bet on the bottled water market, Primo Water (PRMW) stands out as a high-growth, pure-play option: Overview: Primo Water is a North American company focused on bottled water and dispensers, with $1.77 billion in 2023 revenue (5% growth) and 20% adjusted EBITDA margins. Why Invest: Unlike diversified giants like Coca-Cola or PepsiCo, Primo is 100% focused on water, making it a direct play on market growth. Its stock price is ~$27 (June 2025), up 50% year-to-date, with analyst targets of $30–$35 by end of 2026. Growth is driven by acquisitions, office reopenings, and demand for reusable water jugs. Catalysts: Rising health consciousness and corporate demand for water coolers are boosting sales. Primo’s focus on sustainability (e.g., reusable containers) aligns with consumer and regulatory trends. Risks: High debt from acquisitions could be a concern if interest rates remain elevated. Private labels (25% market share) are also a competitive threat, but Primo’s brand loyalty and B2B contracts provide stability. **Alternative Investment Options ** Large-Cap Stocks: Coca-Cola (KO) and PepsiCo (PEP) offer stability, dividends, and exposure to water alongside broader portfolios. Coca-Cola’s scale and Buffett’s backing make it a safer bet for conservative investors. Water ETFs: Invesco Water Resources ETF (PHO, 0.60% expense ratio) and First Trust Water ETF (FIW) provide diversified exposure to water-related companies, including purification and delivery. Both have outperformed the S&P 500 over the past decade. Utilities: American Water Works (AWK) is the largest U.S. water utility, with $944 million in 2023 net income and a 2.1% dividend yield. Its stock (~$130) has grown 500% since its 2008 IPO, offering low-risk exposure. Options: For higher risk, PRMW January 2026 $30 calls (~$2.50) offer leverage if the stock hits analyst targets. Coca-Cola or PepsiCo options are less volatile but still provide upside. **Macro Tailwinds for 2025** Population and Urbanization: The global population is nearing 8.5 billion, with 3–4 billion lacking reliable tap water. Urban growth and tourism (1.3 billion international arrivals in 2023) drive bottled water demand. Sustainability Trends: Companies are shifting to recycled PET and aluminum cans (7% CAGR), addressing environmental concerns and appealing to ESG investors. Economic Resilience: Bottled water is a consumer staple, maintaining demand during economic downturns. Stocks like KO and AWK are defensive plays in volatile markets. **Risks to Consider** Environmental Regulations: Bottled water companies face scrutiny for plastic pollution. Potential bans on single-use plastics could raise costs, though firms are adapting with sustainable packaging. Private Label Competition: Store brands hold 25–30% of the market, pressuring margins for branded players. Nestlé’s Spinoff: The potential sale of Nestlé’s water business (~$5.5 billion valuation) could disrupt its market position or create a new stock to watch. Interest Rates: Higher rates could impact debt-heavy companies like Primo Water or utilities like AWK. Conclusion The bottled water market offers a compelling investment opportunity due to its growth, driven by health trends, water scarcity, and sustainability efforts. Primo Water (PRMW) is a high-potential pick for those seeking focused exposure, while Coca-Cola, PepsiCo, and ETFs like PHO provide safer options. With the market set to grow significantly by 2030, now’s a good time to consider water-related investments. Disclaimer: no shit this is generated by AI
I believe in water long term. Maybe more than ten years out, but building a nice little egg of PHO into my IRA.
My PHO spread is gonna moon
Calls on PHO water about to moooon
For water I bought PHO, any other recs?
[it’s PHO](https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/s/mVubfOW9Nm)
Oh yeah lol… they have weird cutesy names for the ETFs so people can compartmentalize their world views and investing It’s [PHO](https://stocks.apple.com/symbol/PHO)
I've been looking at a play on water infrastructure because of all this, but I haven't done any proper DD beyond a bit into PHO. The idea is they need ultra pure water to make these chips and we're ramping up production domestically while also the water table is struggling, so it suggests water related stuff will go up local to the new fab plants in the US, but you also have to rope in like DuPont because they make ultra pure water for fab plants, so it gets complex and I kinda walked away from it.
URNM, CNRG, ICLN, and PHO Long term plays only, buy shares, or LEAPS on URNM as it has some huge catalysts approaching in the near future.
Ive been tracking PHO for a bit now. High expense rate, but i think the world will be fighting for water in the near future. Its dont pretty well actually
They are all in the Tech industry, you need to diversify, best way to do it is buying ETF in other sectors, a good complement to you current positions is energy sector, XLE is a good etf in that sector, utilities PHO, industrial XLI, PPA for aerospace and defense, I like SPYD which is high on dividends, what I’m trying to say is you picked great stocks, good solid companies and they won’t let you down but that doesn’t mean that their stock price will not be affected by cyclical and honestly all AI stocks will have a big correction after the elections.
i paired mine with ETFs for different sectors, water (PHO), gold (GLDM), cybersecurity (CIBR), as well as some other tech etfs. you might want some value stock etfs in there but i don’t personally have any yet
> which isn't insignificant. It is almost totally insignificant. > performance by those numbers, but it may or may not be worth the expense Performance is net expense ratio. Looking backward, the difference has been totally worth it without the slightest doubt. You are confusing yourself by looking at the CAGR numbers. If you are longterm holding, you need to consider the cumulative results. Here is a Google chart for five years, it doesn't include dividends, but that shouldn't change things much in this case. https://www.google.com/finance/quote/PHO:NASDAQ?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiYj8uV5OiGAxVkLkQIHR0YBrEQ3ecFegQIKhAX&window=5Y&comparison=NYSEARCA%3AEBLU There is a gigantic 60% performance difference between the two. Focus on what matters, not microtrivia that you won't even notice.
Except the 50% higher expense ratio, which isn't insignificant. I'm not seeing as huge of a difference in performance either. For PHO vs EBLU I see 5 year: +15.41% / +12.4%, 3 year: +8.14% / +3.47%, and 1 year: +27.94% / +23.9%. PHO went from 35.97 to 66.39, +185% over the last 5 years, while EBLU went from 30.77 to 46.87, +152% over the same. PHO definitely has a bit better performance by those numbers, but it may or may not be worth the expense ratio. I'm not doubting you, but I'm curious where you're seeing the +165% vs +109%.
PHO and FIW have outperformed EBLU since its inception 165%/158% to 109%. So both PHO and FIW have done about the same as SPY in that timeframe while EBLU has way underperformed. Additionally EBLU has very low volume, 3000ish a day, versus the other two at 57k/27k. Every aspect of PHO is better.
I would probably go with PHO because it’s by Invesco plus has some more AUM.
A bit of a tangent, but Burry is also bullish on water. I bought the PHO ETF in February but sold it too soon because I thought the market was overpriced, hah. Wish I'd gotten in on Ecolab and Badger Meter.
SPY is just under 30% of my holdings currently. VOO is 15%. QQQ is 10%. PHO is 10%. Amazon is my biggest individual stock at just under 10%. I like ETFs :P
I bought PHO on this thesis about eight years ago. It’s been reasonably good to me.
FIW too “PHO seeks exposure to water utility and equipment companies, while FIW casts a wider net by including companies involved in water treatment, distribution, and conservation technologies.”
44b PHO, 44b BANH MI, 44b BUN CHA, 44b COM TAM, 44b BUN BO HUE, 44b GOI CUON, 44b BANH XEO, 44b CAO LAU, 44b BUN RIEU, 44b BANH CUON, 44b MIXED BUN, 44b BANH BOT LOC, 44b HU TIEU, 44b CHE, 44b BANH BEO, 44b NEM RAN, 44b BANH CANH, 44b BANH KHOT, 44b BANH TRANG TRON, 44b BANH CHUNG, 44b BANH KHOAI MI NUONG, 44b BANH IT TRAN, 44b BANH TAM BI, 44b CHAO TOM, 44b BANH TOM CO NGU
I purchased PHO, an ETF. It seems to perform OK, I'm up 20% after owning for nearly 2 years... most of that gain has been since November 2023. It invests in water companies and infrastructure companies... it isn't investing solely to capitalize on the diminishing resource theory.
You should check out sector ETFs as well. I would keep VTI and QQQ then get a couple of sector ETFs such as PHO or VDE to diversify.
We don't call it ramen, we call it PHO 💁🏽♀️
It's most likely a C02 extraction, as that won't leave behind any residual solvent material as an EHO (Ethanol) or hydrocarbon extraction (BHO or PHO Bitane Nd Propane) which needs to be purged in special vacuum chambers for 3 days. Solventless takes way too much plant material vs the yeild it releases, and solventless is to capture terpene percentage. They state their products will have 4% terpenes, which is great, but a solventless extract would yield a much higher terpene content (The old adage, " the juice isn't worth the squeeze) C02 is safer to use, no need for a vacuum hood during extraction. Then they just add in their "patened" blend of terpenes and viola, a million dollar company? Nothing to see here.
I've been interested in this, too, seeing the same signs you are. One of the things that first peaked my interest in it was at the end of the movie The Big Short, it's says that Burry was getting interested in water. I have no clue if he still is or what he might be invested in, but I see the need and potential of it in the future, regardless. For the record, I'm in PHO, though I might pick out some individual stocks at some point. And it's just my "play" brokerage account, so not a lot. I just DCA a share or two each year.
How are you valuing PHO to say it is undervalued? If you look at the top 10 holdings of these ETFs, the majority of them are overvalued on a DCF basis. Water, like petroleum is an essential commodity, but it's just that, a commodity. What moats could these companies develop to create high margins if everyone can pump it out of the ground or take it from the air or desalinate it from the ocean? Given its essential nature, governments are very likely to limit water prices for public good, like they do with internet companies, housing, or gasoline. If i'm investing in a company, I don't want them to be hamstrung by the government on how much they can charge. These ETFs aren't exactly cheap either, with PIO's expense ratio at .60%. Compare this to the performance of Vanguard's MGK for example, 136% over 5 years, with an expense ratio of .05%.
any other ways to invest in drinking water other than PHO? im thinking we will see our first war over water in the next 10-15 years.
PHO-LED? Can I eat it with noodles?
First of all you’re doing great for your age! I didn’t even know what a stock market is when I was 17, yet alone 13. Secondly, my advice for you would be to cut down most of these stocks and stick with solid etfs such as S&P, VTI, VOO or QQQ. You can also explore sector etfs that focus on specific market segments such as energy (VDE), water (PHO) and many others. You have a great start in what you’re doing now. Good luck kid!
I see Netflix just added Chinatown. Guess I’ll watch it for the 76th time. Calls on PHO. Puts on NFLX
Agriculture has been beaten down this year and has yet to make new highs or even bounce back considerably. MOO and FTAG have very cheap holdings. WEAT is a commodity play that's similar Water as expressed in PHO has done very well but pricey valuation I think physical resources including minerals will do well in general. And emerging markets have already started their rise as dollar weakens and rates fall, some on the backs of their resource-rich economies. Some impressive runs this year: Mexico, India, Colombia, even Brazil I also like MJ. Long base made there. Longer the base, higher in space Broad green energy PBW with a lot of semi-shitcos (just unproven and not profitable) also not a bad play if small cap spec continues to rise in 2024 Finally, China. Shunned and spurned in 2023. Simply too cheap, even with risk factored in. KBA and KURE are the more pure-play China plays than KWEB IMO
Was on a status chase delta flight from ATL to PHO and back. The guy next to me on the leg back to ATL told me about the time he went to a HS party in the 70s and everyone took qualudes. Then it got dark and told me about a gang bang gone wrong ending with the death of girl. I put my earbuds back in after that one
Dump the SPHD. It's not remotely a peer of the others. As others have said VOO and VTI are very similar. No harm in having both but for your case probably just having VTI is better (tho if I had to choose for me I'd take VOO). PHO of course is a longterm no-brainer winner, but of course no one knows if the win wil be bigger than VTI going forward. VDE... there are lots of energy ETFs and while VDE is above average it has lagged a lot of the other choices like IEO and PXE. Don't just choose a Vanguard ETF if you use them. Take a look at all the competing energy ETFs. That have very significant differences.
Dividend focus: Earn compound interest by divident reinvestment. Sector bets: PHO & VDE - As the world population grows, I strongly believe water will be one of the scarce resources in the next couple of decades, rivers are drying up, tensions between some of the central asian countries are rising because of inaccessibility to water, climate change effects etc. Energy is a similar situation, we are very dependent on electricity especially now that we’re evolving into this “AI” driven world. Not sure I understand your third point/question.
Yes it did. It’s 500 years old. It’s in the name like PHO 98.
Those investing in water ETFs, do you prefer PHO or FIW?
All the financial companies that have a number of ETFs have one for water. I've had PHO for several years, and my annualized total return in capital gains plus dividends is around 8%. I made a ton of money in SJW, CWT, and a couple other regulated utilities back when they were selling at 11x earnings. Now I like WMS and Ecolab.
PHO for etf, XYL for single stock
we don’t have the current infrastructure in place to filter ocean water to cities if the fresh water dries up this is just true. desalination costs massive amounts of energy. putting the salt in is easy, getting it back out is chemically not hard but expensive energy wise. desalination is largely a bust. if you want to buy water you could buy something like PHO
I’ll look more into it. My quick google shows this stock as IPOed in 2020 and it is already delisted. Like I said I’ll dig more into it I’m curious at this point. My fav water stocks are wtrg/PHO etf/ awk
Invest in $XYL, $ECL and/or some water utilities. Or in a water ETF like $PHO for a one stop investment.
Yes sir. Loving ETFs like PHO
Currently reading Cadillac Desert while investing in PHO
Don't understand what you mean by water management, but check out PHO. https://www.etf.com/PHO
I was thinking that. I was looking at PHO (water resources ETF) as a possibility.
i could really go for some PHO and 6 pieces of spring rolls....
Could just wait with this whole debt crisis thing too. For longs I'm watching PHO to see if it goes to mid 40s but I'm not entirely convicted. Looking to add more FRNW if it gets to the teens, or RIVN for sure if it gets to single digits. DIS is dipping. Happy with selling my GOOG and regret selling GLD at 178. Not really touching my deSPACs right now except for selling CCs. Wealthfront is giving me 4.55% on my extra cash and they have a blended bond portfolio at 5.3 🤷♂️ best of luck
Didn’t read but I’m bullish long term on water. ETFs like $PHO which I believe hold this stonk
Consolidated Water, CWCO, is up 20% ytd and 60% the past twelve months. Definitely one to take a look at. Go through the PHO and FIW etf holdings and you should find more prospects.
BUT BRO, I CAN'T UBER EATS PHO AT 3AM IN BFE PA! Literally the stone age.
$ORGN Origin Materials is a green chemical company that can create a replacement for plastic (PET) by using sawdust. They’re rapidly building plants and have deals secured with Pepsi, Ford, Nestle, but wont be profitable until the plants are up and running 3rd quarter this year. Water etfs $PHO $CGW
I invested a bit in the PHO etf when the water reservoirs started receding. People will find a way to get alternative water sources, but they’re going to need infrastructure to get it.
Goood call, big short = great movie, PHO, zoom out and it looks like it follows SPY so…..
I’m no professional, but I’m rolling with PAVE, SPY, PHO and I am holding 15 Amazon shares.
I’m pushing P as in PHO. That’s the stock name. Check it out.
I’ve thought about this a bit, and I think it’s sort of a self fulfilling prophesy in a way. The more people who invest in for profit water ventures the more likely there will be water problems. It makes me uneasy. Not judging because I’m sure I have some truly awful shit in my portfolio, and I really don’t know much about the companies in PHO, but something about it tingles my spidey senses.
I've invested in PHO which focuses on water quality which might be related to future green energy efforts and also LIT which focuses on battery technology and Lithium mining. The caveat here is that Lithium may not be the preferred metal/mineral in future battery technology.
I have been investing in this ETF called PHO. It deals with water scarcity. I think that for say the next 20-30 years and beyond… there’s going to be a huge problem with water and supply. Shoot, in many places around the world water scarcity is already happening. Do your own research, but I highly recommend PHO.
/r/burryology The first fresh water-access ETF, $PHO did open recently. They plan to take retail water and turn it into Vietnamese soup just to spite the poors.
Some utilities are water based (AWK, CWT, anything in PHO) but it could be ventured to look at water usage in companies. For instance, I think Ford requires 4k liters of water to make a car, how does that affect the company if the resource is dwindling on scale? There are ways to interpret water usage and cost of which, but I'm not sure if the impact would be material or not.
Vietnamese PHO is the way to go when drunk as fook.
* https://www.invesco.com/us/financial-products/etfs/product-detail?productId=ETF-PHO&audienceType=Investor [$PHO](https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/PHO/)
So you explicitly stated that they don't alter your DNA and I am showing you a study where there is a possibility that they do. Now being aware of this information as a medical professional, if you were asked by a patient, would you continue to say with certainty that they don't? Regarding Dr. Bridle's info, no outcome was provided for 238 pregnancies. Outcomes will never be known for 88% (238/270) of the adverse event reports that involved pregnancies. How could they possibly have thought it ethical to recommend to pregnant women with so much data missing?? Only one out of the 29 pregnancies that they had data on resulted in a 'normal' outcome. 28 out of 29 babies they did have outcomes for died. That isn't just 'it happened to one guy'. As far as covid deaths in Canada since the roll out and up until August 28, 2022, there have been 3730 deaths of people with primary doses completed, 4830 with primary +1 booster and 780 with primary + 2 or more. There are 10,763 deaths in the unvaccinated. Now keep in mind, they include people who have only had one dose as well as people who have been recently vaccinated (in the last 21 days, which is when most of the severe effects/deaths would occur- 98.2% of breakthrough cases happened during this time frame in BC) as unvaccinated. So more vaccinated Canadians died than unvaccinated during that time period. So much for preventing severe outcomes, I guess. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1257040/number-covid-deaths-canada-by-vaccination-status/ http://news.gov.bc.ca/files/20210513_PHO-Presentation.pdf Of course there are many medications that doctors regularly prescribe have unacceptable side effects and no that isn't ok but that isn't what is being discussed here. All I know is that if I were a medical professional who has been avidly supporting these up until this point, I would certainly be taking a long hard look at the data coming out and listening to the professional opinions of those who aren't on the payroll because it isn't going to be a matter of 'I was just doing my job and listening to the science' when the time comes to hold those responsible accountable. Just a thought.
PHO, CGW, PIO are decent water shortage plays.
Who knows What made you go with PHO instead of FIW
I would if I lived closer homie, order some PHO 🍜 if you can, that shit has healing powers
Water - $PHO Betting, Alcohol, Drugs - $BAD
PHO is the only water ETF with over 100k volume a day. Next is FIW with 60k volume. Both are up about 40% for the past three years and down about 11% for the year, so not great world beaters. Better to try and make your own basket of water stocks. Start with CWCO... which isn't even a part of either ETF, but is a water pure play that is up 78% for the past six months.
ETFs in my 401(K) and IRA. In my individual account? That’s boring. That’s where I want to take increased risk. I have a couple of ETFs in it (BOTZ, PHO) but the rest are individual holdings and hopefully more of them 10-20x then don’t.