PR

GreenStreetEF

I think we break into the $0.20 cent range near term, according to their investment deck they are going to release revenue guidance this month (I would expect sooner rather then later). Since the Covetrus partnership PR says they are basically selling covetrus every unit they can produce until supplies ramp up to support a global launch I would suspect sales will be pretty high from the start. Then January 5th-8th is CES, then January 14th-18th is VMX. So I think there will be a lot of publicity and attention over the next few months. Not to mention, the current market cap is only $34M and 80% of that is ownership shares held by the CEO and his wife. the float is tiny at like 120M shares ($7M market cap).

Cold_Machine9205

Because LNG is viable and green option that we already use for long haul, it is as efficient as our diesel fleet is. Hydrogen is most likely the option for long haul, not batteries at least not in battery weight currently. Our HCT LNG trucks can carry 136 000 pound loads, we would need twice the amount of these Tesla trucks. 81 000 pounds isn't nearly good enough. For light loads yes, but not for tonnages that drinks logistics require. I'd guess you don't work in logistics field, just look PR statements.

slowinternet

Look up the actual interview instead of posting a garbage Fox News spin screenshot. She did use the word "splurge" which is an unfortunate word choice, but hey, she's not in PR. Here's what she actually said in the interview: 1. Spending increased after the pandemic was over, causing demand pressure (this is where she used the word "splurge" - again, an unfortunate word choice, but she wasn't implying the spending was unnecessary). 2. Supply chain problems caused supply pressure 3. Russia's war caused even more supply pressure, specifically on gas prices due to oil shortage These three things together caused inflation. **Now, tell me what in that is not true?**

Fragmented_Logik

I mean. I know if I used mom and dad's money to get rich off an EV start up that hit the stats you're claiming. I would probably put 44 Billion towards production/retention not a failing social media PR nightmare. So yeah? I think my profit of margin might be a smidgen bigger. Although to be fair I do have a what? How many billions did musk take out in loans for Twitter? 30 Billion lead?

Cold_Machine9205

The company I work got a Volvo electric delivery truck and it was what it was, a PR stunt for both sides. For actual delivery purposes, it's bad. So are these Tesla semis especially for a drink company which requires max haul weight capacity and batteries take a massive chunk out of it. LNG long haul trucks are much better way to go forward than battery driven, since we'd just haul a massive tonnage of just batteries around.

cutiesarustimes2

Kanye West praises Nazis during Alex Jones interview: ‘I see good things about Hitler’ PR gang rn 👊

Spare-Help562

Bulls: "BuT he PR3d1ctEd 10 out Off 2 reCessiOns! He Is permA 🌈🐻. LolLool"

TheRoc66

Thanks Max! GXII seems mostly invested by Institutionals: [https://fintel.io/so/us/gxii](https://fintel.io/so/us/gxii) GX Acquisition Corp II - Class A NASDAQ 9.91 0.00 (0.00%) Dec 1, 2022, 9:49:38 AM EST Day's Range N/A - N/A 52 Week Range 9.66 - 9.92 Blank Check Institutional Owners 84 total, 84 long only, 0 short only, 0 long/short - change of % MRQ Institutional Shares (Long) 30,423,970 - 81.13% (ex 13D/G) - change of shares - change of % MRQ Given the fact that the mine claims that they have in hand all permits to move ahead with the construction starting in the next few quarters (after the merger gives them access to \~$300M) I think the uplist to the Nasdaq looks pretty much like a done deal. This will open the door to a lot of fresh capital! At the right time IMO, when the world is finding a multitude of uses for critical minerals. The next thing I look at, if the projects seems financially viable, is valuation. Let me point to a recent PR to help with a view from an external perspective, the USGS : [https://finance.yahoo.com/news/niocorps-elk-creek-project-confirmed-191000378.html](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/niocorps-elk-creek-project-confirmed-191000378.html) The 2nd largest mineral resource behind Mountain Pass, while this project has only surveyed enough of the underground to get the project going: they do not YET know how deep and how far, on 2 of the sides, the resource extends: 38-year mine-life is the minimum, with what is known today. So, If you look at the closest comparison in the US, Mountain Pass, a company that doesn't even process their minerals in the US, but ships them out China, this mining project in Nebraska, with local processing of the ore and a resource that is all but guaranteed to keep growing, seems like it is worth conservatively at least as much or \~$6B, and possibly up to \~$10B, or 20x today's value - less the 2x dilution associated with the merger-!!! An interesting investment proposal with a 3 to 5 years horizon, all IMO. GLTAL AR.

Kitkatcandykid

Kanye's PR guy is probably shorting $ROPE after that Alex Jones interview

Additional_Wrap_6777

PR stunt for Pepsi who probably got 2 trucks for free and will drive them max twice each for the cameras then go back to fuel

MontyAtWork

Electric trucks without autonomous driving is an environmental step forward but not a big increase in reducing expenses. Elon's entire net worth is tied up in the idea that his electric cars will drive themselves Soon™. As soon as people realize that shit isn't happening, they'll buy whichever electric is cheapest for their purpose. This is a PR stunt and nothing more.

Comprehensive-Art394

PR this morning. Shelved the doo dad. Could get spicy.

potsandpans

yeah not getting hyped for this. musk has proved to be a PR machine. dudes already said dumb shit like it’s going to store memories like pictures. and there are other neural implant companies that will likely be sooner to market

mattoratto

They wont, he works for them now if he didn’t already. They are in this as much as he is. Total bingo bullshit show -this ‘i am a dumb little boy that didnt know what he was doing’ PR spin - all bullshit.

primetime_2018

I was thinking the same… perhaps the “not doing the interview” would scream guilt? Although I imagine his lawyers were staring him down during the interview and his PR team was anxiously biting their fingernails.

minhaum_0x8

Plus a big amount of those donations are already built and paid for stockpiled weapons and ammo (Stingers etc). Those weapons are also being advertised internationally, good examples being Javelin and HIMARS. So the US have (or will have): • benefitial international PR; • gained weapons advertising; • freed space to store more advanced weapons; • strenghtened ties with Poland and other eastern europe states; • possible priority access to Ukraine's rebuilding; • weakened Russia while spending around 1/10 the military budget for 2022 ([$68 billion approved as of nov. 19th](https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts) vs [$767.6 billion Public Law House draft 2022 budget](https://www.cbo.gov/publication/57471))

lost_in_life_34

I know of someone who just got laid off from there. guy was in PR or something like that. only met him twice but he's a friend of a family member

computery_stuff

I heard their PR dept quickly renamed the account volkswatesticles to avoid being mocked.

stive85

Crickets here are a good thing... Fear scale is maxing out! Haha. Honestly though. I see no positives for the democrats not getting SAFE passed in lame duck. Makes 0 sense for them to hand this bipartisan win over to the republicans. From a PR standpoint it's a nightmare. Some of the negative posters here need to relax. You honestly think the big run up and ATH of this multibillion dollar a year industry happened while on the otc...while federally illigal.... In the biggest economy on earth? I've bought early and at highs... This sucks and is so insanely frustrating... But I have no doubts we reach ATHs once macro rebounds and reform becomes clearer.

estacks

Thanks but META has caused damage to the social fabric of society that could easily be valued at trillions of dollars. As a value investor I find that its products have **negative** value to society and it's just a matter of time before all the heinous behaviors you outlined at the bottom of your post catch up to them. Pretty much all sociologists are in agreement that FB fosters extreme political polarization, a sharp rise in mental illnesses, horrifying addictive behaviors, and mass disinformation. They've been making their points to politicians for years and it's finally starting to sink, especially in Europe. The tech market is forming trusts to freeze Meta out of ad and tracking revenue while slurping free PR for doing it. We're in quantitative tightening and their P/E will get torn apart with the rest of the market continuing into next year. Facebook is mocked by the younger gens with more disdain than Myspace ever was. This is a death march, not a dip.

biblicalfax

He’s also known for PR stunts designed solely to move stock prices.

ycpoma

He’s always been insane. He’s just had competent PR to make him look better than he really is. There’s no massaging the twitter shitshow, though. He decided he was going to publicly jump into the culture war, and now he’s made enemies of those who used to protect him… including his investors.

thegamingbacklog

He I believe he had a personal PR team until about 2 years ago

addicted_to_bass

The robot thingy is paying off? How many orders did he get? Not a great PR stunt because every credible tech analyst was saying it was a depressingly bad robot .

Nichinungas

I agree. Everyone is talking so passionately about this. This is business. If Apple sees a reason for it they will act in their best interests. If it’s controversial they won’t jump in and throw themselves into the culture wars fray publicly. This would be potentially bad PR and bad business. They’ll stay quiet I imagine.

jackinsomniac

I remember Bill Burr on Joe Rogan talking about this concept "over exposure". They both agreed, for a stand up comedian it makes most sense to release a new hour special once every 2 years or so. If you start releasing new specials more frequently, people literally start to "get tired of you." It's not a perfect science of course, and they used Daniel Tosh as an example who at the time was releasing new specials every year, AND doing Tosh.0, but it seemed like people couldn't get enough of him until he disappeared for a while. Can't help but think Elon is causing this feedback loop where average people are starting to get more and more tired of him, where even semi-fans start to hate seeing his face and opinions everywhere. Hell I bet this is already a well understood concept for PR firms, Elon just doesn't have a handler to take his phone away or tell him no more Twitter for the day.

elija_snow

He could but that would a bad move since it would add more fuel to the fire and overall bad PR.

Accomplished-Home471

So essentially he didn’t achieve anything yet. This is some good PR for him, that’s about it.

elija_snow

This is a fair question. Smalls successfully lead the forming of 1st unionize workers at AMZN warehouse in NY. No contract has been sign by AMZN & Union but historical evidence point toward company will eventually have to reach a deal with union. It's just a matter of time and PR.

NW_Soil_Alchemy

The are up against a billionaire in the mist of mental breakdown….. think they have a good chance. There is no PR campaign that can make up for Elons very public tantrums.

fusillade762

Hes hurting the brand. Tesla and the man are joined at the hip. And many of his buyers that held him in high regard now hate his guts, rightly or wrongly. On the other hand, hes become friend to people who buy diesel trucks and will likely never buy a Tesla. Its a PR/marketing clusterfuck of epic proportions. All to....WTF is he even doing? I dunno. Maybe hes playing 6D chess and we cant see the end game. I doubt it tho.

Excellent-External-7

Dude I don’t shit coming out of neuralink. All their PR posts are no different than Musk saying “we got this figured out trust me bro”. He’s a hype man. I wouldn’t be surprised if in reality all they have is a chip that reads electrical activity and that’s it.

hopefulatwhatido

I think he’s bringing up the 30% cut as a smokescreen to hide the fact that popular advertisers are leaving because twitter is turning into 4chan and Elon bots. Plus it’s bad PR for any self respecting company to advertise on a platform that allows racists, homophones, and anti-semite to freely share their hatred of others. In other words it’s the exact same reason why Apple wouldn’t advertise on whatever app Trump uses these days or on 4chan. He’s just bullshitting on App Store rules and trying to create a bad reputation for apple but it would be worse for apple if they keep engaging in twitter for ads given how quickly twitter has fallen since that wanker took over.

MLXIII

Buy groceries and stand in front of the tanks set to roll out if buying calls. PR is important!

AtticusThackery

More than just that the biz model has two sides: - dev the voice software to a point where it can be sold to 3rd parties for their custom applications (which google has aggressively pursued) - Use the additional data to drive sales. I think everyone is already creeped out by how “all knowing” ads seem to be but an AI speaker chiming in to suggest you buy more protein powder is probably less effective than the re-buy tile greeting me when I open the app. One feels intrusive and the other is just good CRM. So if half the model can be done more effectively in other ways you’re really just building voice recognition to sell to a call center someday - AND you’re competing against google for that sale. Given all that, I thinks it’s a pretty smart move to leave the product where it is and commit resources elsewhere. Even if it sucks for the teams and the PR.

Jenos00

All PR is good PR.

sur_surly

Musk just wants the PR.

FRICK_CCIV

Sofi moonski into close, some massive blocks buys, likely by institutions. Someone loading long or PR gonna drop soon? Perhaps Bank Charter 2.0?

rightsideofrandom

deflection is a common tactic in the trenches of PR.

ErikT45

CCCP does more for PR these days, I don’t expect this. If it happens you can call me a dummy though. Given the state of their economy and Xi’s lust for global market share, I expect SOME concession.

nusk0

He told an interviewer his altruistic goals were just a PR move

etodt11

Lmao your PR team is really shitting the bed

inm808

Source? I was looking at TSMCs official PR: > This facility, which will be built in Arizona, will utilize TSMC’s 5-nanometer technology for semiconductor wafer fabrication, have a 20,000 semiconductor wafer per month capacity, create over 1,600 high-tech professional jobs directly, and thousands of indirect jobs in the semiconductor ecosystem. https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/2033

patenaude24

Same here tho I purchased 174,000 shares of COMS But big PR coming this week 🤑

KickBassColonyDrop

Missing the point there. I'm saying that the possibility of creating integrated tiny homes that run off the battery pack of a semi becomes a thing when you have a vehicle that can store 1MW of energy. It unlocks a new sector of the market that wasn't possible before, because now you can move around that 1MW of energy independent of the grid. That has huge value for people and businesses. Imagine for a second that Pepsi over the next year buys 25 Semis for their fleet. That's 75MW of energy storage on tap. What can you do with 75MW in an emergency? What can you power? Consider that Pepsi has a plant within an area that's impacted by natural disaster like a hurricane. But they have a fleet of Tesla Semis that can do V2G. An impacted area suddenly having access to 75MW of energy is an unbelievable win. Both for the area and for Pepsi as far as PR win goes. It's not absurd. It's just unorthodox. It sounds absurd because previously the idea of powering a home via your Semi's engine is actually insane. But an EV semi has the *potential* to change the script.

dobleman

The news just came out last week, so lets see if it catches eyeballs in hear. My analysis: revenue from 28 beds (phase I, now) is over $4 million/year which translates to a NI of .05/sh. A market multiple of 15-25 gives a $1 target in the next 1-2 quarters. Phase II and III are next year and can lead to much bigger numbers IMO. Again just my work after reading the PR.

Caffeine_Monster

>has no vision, no idea I mean, apart from the fact the Quest and QUest 2 dominate the VR hardware market? Yes, a lot of the advertising and PR around the metaverse is misguided. But the headset technology and potential applications of VR / AR are real. Meta might go down short term, but personally I their mid - long term growth potential is high.

Taleuntum

All his altruism being an act means that he didn't believe in doing good for good's sake rathet he just did altruism to appear in a more favourable light to others. While SBF donated to EA, he does not own the organization. SBF donating to EA for PR reasons does not in any way mean that EA is a "fake" charity which only exists for PR reasons.

BurlapsGambles

Time for the left to refocus on broader issues, like corporate greed, fiscal evasion, socio-economic inequalities, environment and access to education instead of praising all-white-males executives for doing the bare minimum by showcasing an all-in-one minority as a PR stunt.

No-Combination-1332

Could be to cover the PR of the more legitimate and established investors like Blackrock and US Bank. "Institutional investors invested in seemingly competent and bright young man with a vision, turns out to be a fraud" vs "Institutional investors invest in Amphetamine addicted sexual deviant who played LOL during investment calls, get burned"

FoodRevolutionary191

WSJ still has budget to spend from all the PR space FTX purchased. They are just holding up the contract 🤷‍♂️

Kraz_I

It’s PR, not advertising. Advertisements are conspicuous, clearly sponsored pieces of content where the source of the money isn’t hidden. PR is way more complex and murky, but includes pretty much everything else that is used to promote a brand, from lobbying, business relationships, good will, astroturfing campaigns, interviews and too many things for me to list. Product placement is sort of a combination of both advertising and PR.

asap011

Full comment: https://www.moodys.com/research/Moodys-reviews-Coinbase-Ba3-corporate-family-for-downgrade--PR\_471625

notheusernameiwanted

Thank you for emphasizing that everyone took his dirty money. The only reason he's known as a Democrat donor is because he made a big show if it. That was just a PR campaign to try to turn the negative sentiment Democrat voters are starting to get towards crypto. While at the same time other FTX executives funneled money to the GOP

Paradox68

‘And he publically pledged for PR [sic]’

AshingiiAshuaa

Forget sbf's politics. Forget who he donated to. Forget that he stole incredible amounts of money from hundreds of thousands of victims. The problem here is that this is complete dog shit journalism. It's PR/propaganda.

SunsoutNeedMoney3150

>Mary Beth Long RCAT Only 1 employee? ​ Red Cat Holdings Inc Red Cat Holdings, Inc. engages in the provision of distributed data storage, analytics and services for the drone industry. The company was founded in March 2016 and is headquartered in San Juan, Puerto Rico. Sector Technology Industry Software CEO Jeffrey Rassas Employees 1 Website www.redcatholdings.com/ ISIN US75644T1007 Address 1607 Ponce de Leon Avenue, San Juan, PR, 00909, US

ghetoyoda

Poor PR decisions, a management shakeup that took power away from the creative people and affected the quality of all media, using covid as an excuse to remove value from the parks, overall poor park management (staff and equipment), decided to move the creative headquarters from Cali to Florida (which drove many to quit and most others to be unhappy), fucking up the star wars movies...I think that's most of it.

Excellent-External-7

Classic musk PR move

Future-Back8822

Elon's not done with his Twitter PR stunt yet, wait out Elon's regardedness

Mathguy100

NEGG, I’ve been loading shares and options weekly. I’ve got 240 $2.5c for mid December. Do you realize how easy it would be to send this to $10? You realize that would make me $180k on my options alone? What do you not want about a ticker that has extremely high short interest with respect to its current share price, a history of amazing squeezes with NO dilution/delisting/ PR that screws retail shenanigans, and a current daily volume that hasn’t broken 1 mil in weeks. All the other tickers are playing huge games and risks with delisting/bankruptcy/reverse splits/ huge short positions dug in. This one is under the radar and if retail wants it. It can take it. And when it does I’ll be sitting pretty 😎

OkEntertainment7634

Get your money out while you still can. Everyone else has electric vehicles and are not luxuries, so they’ll appeal to rich people and Middle Class, whereas Teslas are said to feel cheap inside. Musk is being an idiot on Twitter, and he’s causing controversy after another, which is bad PR for sales

space_fork_1212

Why? New York Times had been whitewashing his crimes and thief of customer funds. Seems like a good PR opportunity

FlipIT2022

> Buffett has a very specific approach that works for him start as a multimillionaire from wealthy family and live 100 years? those stories about frugality are PR lies

W1nn1gAtL1fe

I'm guessing this is gonna be a PR stunt

Realistic_Honey7081

He was always the villain, his PR team just got fired when he had to start selling off all his mansions to stay liquid.

YOLOgrindset

Even if it's not a PR problem for AAPL, it still affects their supply chains and ability to make iPhones

ItsAlwaysSmokyInReno

And he accepted because his country is still at war with a much larger neighbor for its existence and is totally reliant on western support to continue beating back the Russian aggressors. It’s a another PR move to maintain support for Ukraine among the populations of the Western democracies

shortsqueezerr

Probably yes it could touch 0.15 tomorrow and then spike over 0.30 doing 100% on Monday. I usually take a small position in these situations to enter when I think the bottom is touched and accumulate the day after ( if goes down). Tomorrow if it goes down probably i'll load up a lot waiting Monday. Anyway it's true it has a downtrend but I think the uptrend will be brutal, just like a pump and dump so waiting it's a strategy but nobody knows when there will be some news. Doubt they release PR the day after thanksgiving but who knows...Multi day runner only with a squeeze.. And why not? It could happen. Imho.

Enough_Middle_3011

I'm sure he's been a fuck most of his life but he wasn't being a high profile fuck in the media most people were aware of (partly because he didn't have such a standing yet and maybe because better PR at times in the past too). I've never liked the guy but it seems to be somewhere around the diver comments and onwards that the narrative shifted more from "genius that will take us to Mars" to "stfu you horrible twat".

ForumsDiedForThis

Nah this is a mass migration issue designed to keep property developers rich, suppress wages and increase taxes. If you get on a train in western Sydney you can go through half a dozen train stops where 90% of people getting on the train are Indian. We have insane amounts of migrants from China and India every year, not to mention foreign students, a large amount only here to gain PR so they can buy property. Some uni courses are just packed with people that do the bare minimum to pass so they can gain PR. The system is absolutely fucked up and corrupt at every level.

wiyixu

It’s amusing or maybe disingenuous how much he brags that “Tesla doesn’t advertise” given how much he’s used a PR firm to establish the myth of Elon. And as a result Elon is Tesla and *all* Elon does is advertise Elon.

Fayko

Anyone who ever saw Elon as Tony either didn't know the character or was a dipshit taken by a ride by a billionaires PR team lol.

Backrus

That was his peak PR. Check out when he fired that PR company and when his public perception started changing. Everything lines up perfectly.

amadeusz20011

No, bandwagon riders who do no research or believe their news source do believed that. Everyone who thought that should strongly rethink the confidence in their views. If it wasn't for having heard some incredibly moronic, thermodynamically oblivious garbage that fell out of his mouth a bunch of times I would probably still not give a shit about him. At first he was a random guy but humans are by nature bandwagon riders and until you realise it and apply reasonable doubt to things like the deservedness of someone's praise you are almost definitely one of them. But the fact he's a physics and engineering moron who was seen as a guru pissed me off and now I borderline despise him and feel great joy at his horrible financial and PR decisions lately that out him as the barely brained manbaby he is, the general public is becoming aware and he's losing his stupid cult.

normalize_123

Look I got rich off of Tesla stock (coz I sold when I doubled my money unlike the simps who’re fanatics and are probably underwater), and I still consider Elno to be a smart asshole. That said, I’m so suspicious of that regard as he basically paid 44 billion dollars to stop further discovery in court during the Twitter lawsuit. I also feel that his PR has waned, sentiment towards his “genius billionaire trying to change the world” has turned, and generally the halo effect has evaporated which is making Tesla puts more and more attractive.

Backrus

Speaking buzzwords doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. Show me data, math and code used for simulations. His code, not written by some head engineer. Then we can talk. Musk is nothing more than a good PR job. When he fired them, coincidentally world started seeing his true side. Fake it till you make it in a nutshell. Having rich daddy also helps.

EShy

Back in the day you'd go to the video store and discover some direct to video title you never heard of (with a low budget). Now they expect you to find their 100 million budget movie, that you never heard of, on one of the many streaming services. It makes no sense. With a theatrical run it's not just the money they'd make, it's PR and a statement that it's a movie that's good enough to get a theatrical run.

time_flask

Yes? Literally every other CEO knows that it's best to just shut up about your own beleifs and carry on with running a company and they just put out PR curated statements so even if something slips out adte a week or two no one cares. Musk specifically chose to be open about his beliefs and tweet all the time so he wants to be in the spotlight. And he does shit post all the time on twitter. And most pf the articles now are more about laughing at him for the chaos twitter is in, or highlighting workers that habe been laod ofd, or FTX's owners stake on twitter

slope93

We reached a funny moment somewhere around trumps early presidency where stocks were going even more stupid than normal and Elons PR was at its height. There was basically no bad press and everyone was hyped on Tesla's. Trump was tweeting about stonk gains every afternoon and it literally kept going up. It was the OG meme stock

173827

>Now that a lot of the stuff about Twitter has come out, it was not only silencing conservative voices AND voices in the middle, it was also actively pushing politics to people who had little to no interest in engaging with it. Source please. From my point of view there were always a huge amount of conservative voices on twitter. >Tesla? Hasn't done anything bad with it. He silenced the original founders and real brains behind Tesla to make himself "co-founder". OG Tesla founders hate him for how he tries to appear relevant. >The diver? He insulted Musk on TV first, so Musk got annoyed and insulted him back. He was petty, so he didn't take the high road, but he just insulted a guy who insulted him first. Unsworth did not insult him. He just said in an interview, that he saw the pod as a PR stunt as it wasn't flexible enough to maneuver through the cave system. Musk just felt offended and called him a pedo. >I mean, he gave Ukraine Starlink, and much of it is funded by SpaceX. Yeah, SpaceX got money from the US government for that, who overpaid by a lot for satellites and ground stations. >Tesla pushed the entire world to electric cars, which actually do reduce greenhiuse emissions and help with long term energy independence. Even if you include mining, once a critical mass of materials has been mined, the materials can be recycled essentially forever, taking the long term impact to essentially zero over time. Tesla did indeed play a role. What always surprises me is that regulators like in the EU never get praise for that. It's subsidies from the US and the EU that make that fast development in the sector possible and the EU deciding to ban combustion engine sales by 2035 is the real driving force. All the big car manufacturers know that's the future, because the old tech has no legal future. >The fact that people treat him as Hitler is stupid. This is not the case. They treat him like a egoistic, PR focused billionaire who keeps promising without delivering on his big promises that made him famous. No one sees him as Hitler. Wtf.

rrogido

He had no involvement in the design of the engine. None. That's just his PR that you've been swallowing for years.

HippieWitchyWoods

A close family member worked for him as a lawyer for one of his companies, and the dude was always a prick. He paid people pennies compared to other companies, and consistently put profit and positive PR over the safety of his consumers. Needless to say my family member left the company as fast as they could, and is so much happier.

royboh

> He's been the same since the beginning. He just doesn't care about PR anymore. His public authenticity started to run out as nothing he promised came to fruition. You say that like SpaceX isn't the sole reason Russia doesn't have exclusive access to ISS while also saving taxpayers billions by undercutting ULA for USSF launches.