PR

boringexplanation

Reddit is very well known in PR circles to run influence campaigns. Shitty rumors and blatant lies get submitted, artificially upvoted, and discussed in many ways for the hive mind to convince others of something that sounds true.

DrestinBlack

Anyone who thought they cured all cancers and only went up 300% really didn’t pay attention lol There are, very basically, three types of melanoma, two of them had potential treatments (like Keytruda), the third didn’t. That’s the type that they went after and scored great success. (I wrote a [little explainer](https://x.com/alexboge/status/2090539942183117031?a=tohABIUcFwMYskEbmjM&s=61)) Totally agree that up 300 minus 20 is still awesome, but people who are disappointed by the results never understood the original PR.

Nepalus

\> It's already good enough at all kinds of complex work that, with some guidance, it can replace people. Not really, and there's data on this. Scale AI and the Center for AI Safety built the Remote Labor Index out of 240 real freelance projects that humans already got paid for. At launch last October the best agent finished 2.5% of them to a client-acceptable standard. The current best is around 16%. Big jump, but that still means the best model on earth fails 5 out of 6 real paid jobs. And "with some guidance" is doing a lot of heavy lifting. If it needs a human steering it, it's augmenting labor, not replacing it. The companies actually trying this aren't seeing it either. Gartner's 2027 CIO Agenda (2,000+ tech leaders) found only 13% of orgs are getting significant value from AI. And this one goes right at your Amazon example: Gartner surveyed 350 $1B+ companies running agents and automation, and the high-ROI and low-ROI companies cut staff at basically the same rate. No link between layoffs and AI returns. They're also predicting 40%+ of agentic AI projects get canceled by end of 2027 over cost and unclear value. On cost, your first two points don't sit together. If today's pricing is a below-cost PR play, today's price isn't the ceiling, it's the teaser. That's the Uber playbook, and you find out the real price after the people are gone. "Cheaper over time" is also true per token, not per task. Agents burn way more tokens than chat, which is why Gartner expects cost per agentic workflow to go up 5x+ through 2028 even while token prices crater. Sonnet 5 is cheaper per token than Opus 4.8 and still costs more per finished task because it thinks longer. Fair point on China, and I'll walk back "one company owns the whole market." The model layer probably does commoditize. That just moves the rent to whoever owns the GPUs, the power and the datacenters. And the cheap models aren't charities: DeepSeek raised V4 Flash output pricing about 370% in August. Your last point actually proves mine. If execution is basically free and everyone has the same tools, whatever you save by cutting staff gets competed away to your customers, because your competitors cut theirs too. The only one left with pricing power is whoever sells the execution. The "AGI tax" math works for the first mover and nobody after. Plus your whole workforce becomes something a regulator can switch off. A couple of frontier models had access suspended for almost three weeks this summer over export controls. Try that with an employee.

JabCrossE4E5Quark

They issued guidance and "promised" they wouldnt raise more than 20B to fund their 400B of future obligations. We are at the "companies issue complete nonsense PR and numbers to keep the bubble inflated" part of the market cycle. Started with the hilarious S1 filed by ANT monday, now Oracle is doing their part. And like desired, algos and 0 iq retail are buying it up

jasperCrow

🍎 Puts 🍎 Crackgate is the new Xbox Red ring of Death. The duo is poorly designed and is going to be a continual PR nightmare.

aemus001

AAPP got a PR crises on hand right now

Hot-Debate7034

*I'm not sure I buy the way this is being framed. Anthropic clearly has great potential, but presenting it as if they have so much cash on hand feels like an attempt to create hype and shift attention away from the losses and long-term obligations. It just feels like a familiar PR tactic.*

phthalo-azure

It's like all of media has forgotten basic accounting principles in their attempts to suck the dick of whichever company is currently focusing the PR hose on them.

stockratic

Absolutely! This one could (and should) hit $10+. I am also waiting/hoping for a PR right after approval or on the Nov earnings call where NRx will disclose how many agreements/orders they have locked down and for vials of KETAFREE. Whenever they sell all the current stock of KETAFREE vials (with a 1M per month manufacturing capacity ongoing) it will be some serious revenue and profit to back up the upcoming potential surge in share price. Then comes the NRX-100 NDA filing. It was supposed to be filed by June 2026. My speculation is that because manufacturing is essentially the same NRx is being prudent and waiting to pass all the hurdles to get KETAFREE approved and are making the appropriate NDA modifications (like the required manufacturer attestation from the July 29 GDUFA) so that those issues do not delay approval of the NRX-100 NDA. The fact that the FDA agreed to expand the NRX-100 indication earlier in 2026, which gave NRx an approx. 10x increase in TAM of patients, boosts approval confidence in a big way. Unless you have kept up with the prior NRx posts, click on the link provided for the most recent prior post. Each prior post has a similar prior post link at the top, which helps with historical information and time frame.

Grimtongues

NYSE uses designated market makers - Nasdaq is competitive (and more volatile), which could work wonders for their stock performance if they have a good PR plan.

bigmeatbag

Donnie not eating cheesecake from the cheesecake factory in the oval office today shows his PR team is dogshit.

irrelevantusername24

I'll just copy over a couple comments I left elsewhere: When you get down to the nuts-and-bolts of it, this \[open source v proprietary\] isn't even a thing that has much to do with the code itself at all. This is very much a social type thing, but not even a human problem, like it's... it's almost a law of nature sort of situation. There's a reason that of the "front of house" tech companies\*, I firmly believe Microsoft and Mozilla (maybe Apple) are the ones that have a coherent reason to exist. In some ways, what led to Google being what it is (which is inseparable from zuckerbook) was what Microsoft was not allowed to do. What is hard to understand about that era is that while in one hand they were telling Microsoft they couldn't \[do the thing\], they were attempting to force that exact same thing through other means, which is what led to the creation of Mozilla. And so when it comes down to it, though they approach it from opposite directions, Mozilla and Microsoft have (or had) the same ultimate goal, which is making good technology as widely available as possible. \* ^(not counting video games, which is another issue directly mirrored by this - and then there's also the infrastructure providers themselves) It's a complicated topic to be fair. But I'll copy over a couple comments I left on a post about a Toshiba calculator ^(fun tangentially related fact, I still have a half broken super cheap laptop made by Toshiba that has a dedicated Cortana button. That laptop originally ran Windows 8) Both comments, more specifically, were in response to a comment talking about "planned obsolescence": >An **oligopoly** (from [Ancient Greek](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_language) [ὀλίγος](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ὀλίγος#Ancient_Greek) *(olígos)* 'few' and [πωλέω](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/πωλέω#Ancient_Greek) *(pōléō)* 'to sell') is a [market](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_(economics)) in which pricing control lies in the hands of a few sellers.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly#cite_note-1)[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly#cite_note-2) As a result of their significant market power, firms in oligopolistic markets can influence prices through manipulating the [supply function](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_function). Firms in an oligopoly are mutually interdependent, as any action by one firm is expected to affect other firms in the market and evoke a reaction or consequential action.[^(\[3\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oligopoly#cite_note-Archived_copy-3) As a result, firms in oligopolistic markets often resort to [collusion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collusion) as means of maximising [profits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profit_(economics)). You know one of the main ways an oligopoly manifests? When a natural monopoly is fractured for other-than-common-good purposes. [https://web.archive.org/web/20041104012420/https://www.independent.org/pdf/open\_letters/antitrust.pdf](https://web.archive.org/web/20041104012420/https://www.independent.org/pdf/open_letters/antitrust.pdf) From the recent interview of [Bill Gates, in the Verge](https://www.theverge.com/podcast/1015408/bill-gates-ai-interview-microsoft-openai-anthropic-risk-policy-regulation): >The industry is actually speaking up about that quite a bit, but the awareness or even the willingness to believe these things about, “This time is different,” once you get outside the industry, it’s very, very low. >People are often looking at the past and saying, “All the fears about technology in terms of its disruption, including to the job market, never were borne out. So this must be another example just like those. These people who are warning of all these different problems must just be wrong and we can ignore them.” >Some outsiders say, “Get better PR companies.” But that ignores the fact that these warnings are the truth >**We see this with our audience as well, right? “We can’t release the model, it’s too dangerous.” “This is just hype to prop up the bubble.” And on and on we go.** >Yeah. None of the warnings being made about these models by industry insiders are at all insincere. They’re absolutely the truth and it’s pretty much universal. You can even go back to the founding story of OpenAI designed to say, “If we get too powerful, maybe we can not open Pandora’s box,” or to DeepMind’s negotiation with Google management. >The people close to this are very concerned about misuse, job impacts, social relationship impacts, and I’d say it’s impressive to have an industry that’s speaking out as vividly as they are. Some outsiders say, “Get better PR companies.” But that ignores the fact that these warnings are the truth. >**You’ve obviously moved back and forth in your life between commercializing software and technology and being a humanitarian. There’s something about these companies in particular where they all started with very high-minded ideals — all three of them, Anthropic, OpenAI, and DeepMind — to build AGI.** >**They all built some sort of corporate governance structure to avoid the pitfalls of commercialization and unchecked capitalism, and then they started selling to enterprise clients and they seem to have gotten away from those ideals very quickly. Do you think it’s just the market?** >No, that’s not fair. >**You don’t think so?** >No. >No, no. The construct that was created wasn’t useful in the case where you have lots and lots of companies at the frontier. >The OpenAI structure, which is, “We may choose never to productize this and to ignore the capitalistic incentives,” only works if there’s one company. That’s where it’s broken down, not because of any change of people’s awareness of the risk and how it’ll utterly change humanity. >**This is the other dynamic that I hear from our audience, and I hear from the AI industry itself: “We would like to stop, but the demands of competition prevent us from unilaterally stopping one company. We need some regulatory effort to stop us.”** >I haven’t heard anyone say they want to stop. >I’ve heard people talk about pacing the frontier or making sure that models get reviewed by governments. We usually think of governments as playing this key role in safety. In fact, for things that are not a millionth as dangerous as AI — car crashes, plane crashes — we rely on the government to establish strong technical standards, to review problems. >Once you have multiple competitors, the level of responsibility can’t be with the companies. It’s completely obvious. The responsibility becomes the government’s responsibility, just like it is with every other dangerous product, although the magnitude there and the degree of change is minuscule by comparison. >**I will tell you I’m a little concerned about the government’s ability to understand the technology that we would hope they regulate. I’ve had a number of politicians on** ***Decoder*** **lately. I don’t have high hopes there.** >**But I’m curious about your understanding of it because it feels to me like trying to regulate something or put standards against a number of companies requires you to really understand the nature of the technology that you seek to regulate.** >Not really. Feel free to peruse my other recent comments for very related ideas.

GreyHairedDWGuy

I'm probably a bit older than most on here. This seems much like the .com bubble. Something will happen (economically or disaster from a PR perspective) and the incestuous relationships between the nvidia, amazon, meta, anthropic and/or openAI will come crashing down. If Anthropic eventually turns a profit, it will mean we have capitulated as humans. Assuming that doesn't happen, it will eventually crash the markets. I hope not, but reasonably likely.

jasperCrow

Yea they’ll manage by shelling out Billions in replacements/recalls, and having shit PR for Christmas sales. They’ll be just fine in the long term. But my puts are about to prrriiiiiiint

wutface0001

isn't it a win-win for everyone, even if it's a PR tool as a billionaire you can't win, life sounds depressing, I can only recall another group of minority that got oppressed this much in Austrian painter's Germany

kanncakra

Nvidia backing $164.5B in data center leases is just “bagholder of last resort” with better PR

tenthousandants44

Corporate journalism is PR by design

WhyBecauseReasons

They neglected to mention their Q3 2026 revenue, which is a bit of PR to fluff their numbers. Q1 2026 vs Q2 2026 ~ 141% revenue increase  Q2 2026 vs Q3 2026 ~ 45% revenue increase What happens if the Q4 2026 revenue increase is less than 45%? Yes, it's still good growth, but not when you factor in their financial commitments and potential liabilities.

neillson01

Virgin Galactic Mothership is in port to pick up a finished Delta. Followed on flight radar. Still unknown to the wider market. Expect huge PR event Thursday. Earnings will announce it’s on schedule on the 12th. Short interest and days to cover huge, it’s going to RIP.

oachkatzele

the counter argument to that is that there is no maintenance - space x will just shoot up more satellites/data centers and let the old ones rot away. the counter to that counter argument is: shooting up satellites is expensive so we are back to cost prohibitive maintenance. my napkin math says this is not even close to profitable and a pure PR move but what do i know anyway.

Fresh_Distribution13

From a purely corporate lens, it’s actually not the best way to do it - you potentially lose good staff rather than selecting those who are underperformers. That being said it’s better PR when the numbers are this significant.

hopelesslysarcastic

Lol yeah I felt the same way…I just don’t see how that’s possible but my team is human reviews every PR and handcodes most things that aren’t boilerplate. Feels too house of cardish to do it any other way but fuck do I know.

Ok-Investigator-4065

SPCE ... new ship ready, moving to Spaceport imminently, media and PR ready to drop.

AngelsRangers

I’m keeping an eye on AIB. PR release over the weekend on deets regarding revenue. 1 billion revenue on market cap of $100 million. Confirmed no plan of dilution in the near future. Cash in the bank. Going to see if volume comes in at open

thequacksquad

the real money isn't in selling a product, it's in the data access these models get from crawling everything. why sell security patches when you can just keep the keys to the kingdom and quietly use them for training advantage the backdoor disclosures to other firms feels like a temporary PR move while they build regulatory cover. once the precedent is set that they can find vulns at scale, charging for it is almost inevitable

elementalshaman1337

SPYR…. Read the PR and do DD on the company that acquired voting control of SPYR. Check what companies they have as their customers. One of them is Rubis Caribbean and could be wrong but their revenue is around 2 billion or something. Could be wrong but Ledjr AI also has a partnership with Microsoft solutions? This company is actually revenue generating already….. not financial advice

elementalshaman1337

Read the PR on SPYR and do DD on the company that acquired voting control

WorstDeveloperEver

You're really underestimating it. Right now we're a team of 3 devs and we're shipping features as close to approx 75+ developers working full time. I've just used Codex Sol 6.1 xHigh yesterday to clear a full board of QA bugs in goal mode. Asked him to keep working until all bugs on the board are fixed, PR created, reasons and fixes are commented on the task. One master agent created like 7 sub agents and I've received around 70 pull requests in a few hours. Those PRs have really high quality of code. Fully unit tested, AI does QA using some specific skill and attaches screenshot of the UI to the PR. He had enough context on the references and he almost never makes a mistake if the prompt is good. I'm not kidding. I worked for some big companies in the past with hundreds of developers. Right now I'm more like CTO in this company and for a few 200 USD packages on chatgpt, we're probably saving 200k on developer salary costs. Last year it wasn't like this. AI was making a lot of mistakes. After Astra and Sol 6.1, AI one shots almost every big feature request or bug fixes. If our company would make millions on profits, I would honestly pay around 20k+ easily for this instead of hiring 5 senior devs. When you connect it with agents, references, agents, skills etc. they're a beast. If someone says otherwise, it means that they didn't go deep yet into AI or they don't know how to use it properly. 3 developers pushing around 200k lines of fully tested code every single day. Before, a developer would send around 1-2k lines for medium sized PRs and they would estimate it like 1-2 days. If I have to send UI to a client, before designers were working on Figma for weeks. Now I'm asking AI to "hallucinate" and generate 5x UI options (as images) and I just send them to stakeholders. Takes 2-3 minutes. Really, I would rather pay 20k for Chatgpt instead of hiring 4-5 developers... I know we'll be much much faster. I know it sounds bad, and I was also laid off many times in the last few years, but I accepted the new reality.

WorstDeveloperEver

You're really underestimating it. Right now we're a team of 3 devs and we're shipping features as close to approx 75+ developers working full time. I've just used Codex Sol 6.1 xHigh yesterday to clear a full board of QA bugs in goal mode. Asked him to keep working until all bugs on the board are fixed, PR created, reasons and fixes are commented on the task. One master agent created like 7 sub agents and I've received around 70 pull requests in a few hours. Those PRs have really high quality of code. Fully unit tested, AI does QA using some specific skill and attaches screenshot of the UI to the PR. He had enough context on the references and he almost never makes a mistake if the prompt is good. I'm not kidding. I worked for some big companies in the past with hundreds of developers. Right now I'm more like CTO in this company and for a few 200 USD packages on chatgpt, we're probably saving 200k on developer salary costs. Last year it wasn't like this. AI was making a lot of mistakes. After Astra and Sol 6.1, AI one shots almost every big feature request or bug fixes. If our company would make millions on profits, I would honestly pay around 20k+ easily for this instead of hiring 5 senior devs. When you connect it with agents, references, agents, skills etc. they're a beast. If someone says otherwise, it means that they didn't go deep yet into AI or they don't know how to use it properly. 3 developers pushing around 200k lines of fully tested code every single day. Before, a developer would send around 1-2k lines for medium sized PRs and they would estimate it like 1-2 days. If I have to send UI to a client, before designers were working on Figma for weeks. Now I'm asking AI to "hallucinate" and generate 5x UI options (as images) and I just send them to stakeholders. Takes 2-3 minutes. Really, I would rather pay 20k for Chatgpt instead of hiring 4-5 developers... I know we'll be much much faster. I know it sounds bad, and I was also laid off many times in the last few years, but I accepted the new reality.

elementalshaman1337

Hi y’all! Read the PR on SPYR from earlier if you want. One of the their clients is Rubis Carribean and that company did almost 2 billion in revenue. Could this be literally getting in early like when bitcoin was in the cents? This company is basically doing an IPO by reverse merging with SPYR? Could be wrong on this.

elementalshaman1337

SPYR! Merger done based off the PR! Could be wrong

Moondog111106

It's all been mostly a mirage from the beginning. From your first sentence: >RZLV announced a strategic partnership with Google cloud November 20 2024 and Microsoft Azure on 3 October 2024 What wasn't announced but in the disclosures is these "partnerships" are commitments by Rezolve to buy Microsoft and Google services, to the tune of 160M+ over 5 years. Same with Amazon. Rezolve team visits AWS and retail pumpers get giddy, but it's Rezolve paying AWS $40M (~8 per year). Every software company (including the one I work for) has these "partnerships". Rezolve is one of 1000s of these partners buying these services. If you want to see who Google's real partners are in agentic AI for e-commerce, they built their tech stack  in collaboration with almost 60 companies, none of which was Rzlv, but all the usual large and also small players. And of course it's powered by Gemini (not BrainSuite). This is all easily searchable but ignored by the RZLV Army. Likewise everyone flipped out originally by Rezolve announcing MasterCard "selected them" as agentic AI partner. Nope. The details were in the fine print that it's non-exclusive reseller agreement. And all those announcements have been pulled because I would bet Mastercard's larger partners were pissed at the way Rezolve framed it. MC already announced partnership with PayPal on Agent Pay a year ago (https://www.mastercard.com/us/en/news-and-trends/press/2025/october/Mastercard-and-PayPal-join-forces.html). Rezolve's PR on their relationship was total spin. And got tanked right away. Likewise the institutional investments announced last year were all spin. Citadel was a short term hedge fund play on volatility (likely covering their own shorts or lending to shorts) and made out to be validation of Rezolve's tech. Vanguard, State Street, etc. were all passive flows due to RZLV addition to Russell 2000. Yet, Dan Wagner himself used that to claim validation and make it appear institutions were actively getting on Rezolve. As soon as Rezolve was removed from R2000 this June, those flows immediately dried up. Volume has been dramatically lower. They rank near bottom in institutional investment. It was always BE from the start. And don't even get me started on the buyback ruse. Announcing a buyback while cash flow negative that you plan to borrow for (in a rate hiking environment lol) was always a stunt. We now know they diluted 50M shares after announcing buyback authorization and waiting for UK court ruling. It's been all smoke and mirrors. The bottom line is they've bought almost all their revenue, are in debt, have postponed path to profitability (last December it was to be in 3 quarters, 3 quarters later it's still announced they are 3 quarters away), and have absolutely no real moat in a highly competitive space in which they are a tiny minnow swimming with sharks. Market manipulation is their only strategy. If you don't believe it, then just look at the trading.  If they are so undervalued and dislocated from their true potential, where are the insider trades? All these directors from all their corporate leaders in these businesses and none are buying it either.

Keeltoodeep

Yeah, it's also PR and lobbying face too. Is congress going to approve of an AI model being subpoenaed?

oddun

There was a documentary about Thames Water a couple of years back showing what an utter disaster the whole place was, commissioned by their own PR team if you can imagine that, and in it the CEO was doing fuck all but watching cricket on his iPad and sending demands for bailouts to his pals in government. He even said at one point that it was part of their yearly budget plan and it’s just a matter of waiting for the allocation of funds. Ex-navy officer Chris Weston. A complete buffoon. It was called Thames Water: Inside the Crisis.

PassableForAWombat

The people using AI to write software as a new company are not the kinds of people that can really be trusted for stable updates and patches. Most of the time bibecoders just do drive-by PR updates connotes and it’s just a refactored base code with AI labelling. SAAS won’t die but it won’t retain the market share it does.

kemar7856

This is a PR Stunt there is no way https://preview.redd.it/qxbtmwd6b4xh1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a1c9244aa7c1573dcee8c6e31f2e2ec6d8c52129

Ok_Ground9015

I'm fully loaded and awaiting the green days ahead. There are still a lot of earnings reports and positive PR to be released across the AI sector. Patience is key. The AI underdogs will have their day soon.

ReFinkle

Since when has bad PR prevented stupid medicine prices.

Forget_me_never

Still quite a niche treatment compared to regular vaccines. I think about 0.03% of the population each year may be eligible for it. Not a big money maker unless the margins are insane but that might be bad PR.

SpiritedLock6993

$2 put wall expiration tomorrow but the PR is popping so anyone me selling is deflating squeezing

8000000MadeinMarket

Silent ARBB: They haven't make a single PR from their last semester results, which were good. In the next 10 days they will release also good yearly results, or they will never release them and move to OTC. If the first happens, then at some point the sp will spike to double digits. If the second happens, then for a couple of days the few shorters will cover and move $0.50 up, then it will gradually go to zero.

Medium_Notice_3512

Given how vehemently the Left claims that Musk has nothing to offer beyond fraud and PR, I suspect they might even end up saying "thank you."

am22fcw

Jensen has been on a PR parade lately dropping statements every day. We've probably already seen the top.

Aligator-Kun

Honestly another PR stunt to boost tesla stock/sales, everything is about engagement... Good or bad, even if this was something that was remotely "cool" the science community would back it but nah, nu uhhh..

Bobert77

Wouldn’t it be in Elon’s best interest to suppress the price before a potential merger? Like a bunch of terrible decisions and PR for months prior so SpaceX doesn’t have to dilute as much?

Magento-Magneto

Real estate fuckers spreading panic to protest their own asses. Probably hired fancy consultancies and PR agencies to do that.

DHAZE-83

FWD: On the Shieldcom acquisition structure: Public materials describe it as an all-equity, zero-cash deal using a structured preferred-share package issued to Shieldcom’s owners. Those preferreds are subject to lock-ups and are released only upon achievement of specific contract-revenue milestones. One summary of the definitive agreement characterizes them as non-convertible preferred equity. This is designed so that any equity consideration is performance-tied—nothing unlocks for the sellers unless the revenue targets are actually hit. That aligns incentives with long-term common-shareholder value rather than delivering immediate cash or unrestricted dilution. Exact share counts, conversion features (if any), and the precise source of shares were not detailed on the call or in the initial PR. That’s common for OTC announcements at this stage; further terms typically appear in subsequent filings or updates. Current authorized shares stand at 775 million with roughly 754 million outstanding, so there is limited existing headroom. Any future increase in authorized shares or issuance to cover milestones would still be tied to the performance gates that unlock the preferreds. Management has indicated no reverse split is planned absent an uplisting. In short, the structure prioritizes milestone-based alignment over immediate dilution. Execution on the revenue targets will determine whether and how any equity is released. DYOR.

SPAC_Time

[Cencora to Acquire American Oncology Network to Strengthen Support of Community Oncology](https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20261020319270/en/Cencora-to-Acquire-American-Oncology-Network-to-Strengthen-Support-of-Community-Oncology) \- OTC Expert: AONC AONCW PR doesn't state any price per share, says "the transaction values AON at an enterprise value of $2.4 billion, consisting of $2.3 billion at closing". AONC's market cap is around $375 million, no idea how much debt. Stock listed on OTC Expert, looks like some folks have stink bid successfully, [someone bought 1000 AONC for $.0009 on October 13](https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/aonc/overview#:~:text=100-,10/13/2026,-15%3A53%3A08).

Sparerye

MU doing its PR offensive on YouTube ads now “Without Micron, the world stops”

ZiKyooc

They showed car doing things using devices that will never be road legal in the way they were shown, including the downforce fan which was deemed too dangerous for following drivers the one time a team used that in F1... They may end up with a tuned down version that will better manage airflow under the car as it exists on a few supercars. Purely a PR stunt. I think this was mostly because they realised that showing the roadster as it will actually be on the road would have been below most people expectations

Iunatic

ASTS goes down 10% on anything that could remotely be negative and doesn't pump at all on positive PR.

Pantim

So, SpaceXAIXTesla?  Or, XTeslaSpaceXAI?  I really want too know how he's gonna justify a merger with X...that X is the PR company for TeslaSpaceXAI?  Btw y'all, Musk didn't start Tesla. He got in as in investor, demanded the two founders (who were very good friends)make him an equal partner, turned one against the other and chased that one out then chases the remaining founder out. They've done interviews about it. 

CosmoKing2

Classic PR move to find bag holders and get out asap.

Arabian_Goggles_

I’m so glad I sold around $110 in May after Blue Origin blew up on the launch pad. It was obvious they would struggle to get SATS up after that. At their current pace they will be lucky if they launch more than 10 this year and yet somehow they are putting out PR about launching intermittent service later this year. I’ll believe it when I see it, management is such a joke lol

gottimw

Nobody can get it. It's on 'invite only' ie nobody because it's PR stunt and everything inside was a compress tank to make it happen.

Deadsea3132

I’m not mad it’s down, I’m mad that their executives and PR are useless, and their CEO even worse

staythewaters

>Ok. It’s not unusual for charitable giving to start with a public pledge. It's not unusual for Musk to make promises and claims that amount to absolutely nothing. >And there are tax breaks associated with charitable giving. And good PR is a factor for sure. Musk already thinks he's saving humanity, and he's gone as far as to meddle in elections. He also goes around calling people "pedophiles," who are in the process of actual heroic actions. This is not a man who gives a shit about PR in so far as he can use it to shore up excitement among his cult. And his cult doesn't give a shit about giving fractional shares to kids in this country. >Let’s just be grateful and give credit where it’s due.  No credit is due here and that's exactly what I gave. >And if he fails to live up to the promise, he’ll have the negative publicity of that then.  Like all of the other times he's failed to live up to his promises? >No reason to let tomorrow get in the way of today. You're a walking LinkedIn essay, aren't you?

Background_Rule_2483

Every kid in America huh. Sounds like a sick PR move until you realize SpaceX ain't even public and my kid cant do shit with a stake except maybe get a tax headache.

Curious_Star_948

The reason why business owners don't give away their shares is because it decreases their voting power and therefore control over the company. It's never about money. These founders never sell. Except Elon got around this issue by giving himself (almost exclusively) shares with significantly increased voting power. He owns 48% of the company while having 85% control. After he gives away the shares to kids, he would lose basically zero influence over the company. Therefore, there is zero downside. Additionally, he'd likely give away the shares via some kind of charitable organization, which allows him to give it away tax free while building tax benefits so potentially liquidate more shares tax free. Note that he still ultimately loses wealth. Giving away your assets and reducing your taxes does not make you better off. You are always worse off because math. Additionally you can only offset up to 60% of your income so you can't avoid tax completely. Excess carries forward 5 years before expiration so it's not even guaranteed he will get the full benefit. Lastly, if you took away good PR as a benefit, many CEO/founders give free stuff away for nothing in return. If you insist on counting good PR, then virtually nobody gives away free stuff for nothing in return. It's not exclusive to the rich.

jasperCrow

I highly doubt he’s going to do anything meaningful with those licenses. But I guess we’ll soon find out. Seems like a good PR stunt to try to pump the stock tho!

Da_Spooky_Ghost

Kids forced to hold until they’re 18 and this year Elon gets to write it off around 50%. Great way for billionaires to offload stocks for a good cause without immediately affecting the share price and they lower their tax burden. Also Elon desperately needs some positive PR, this is a way for him to buy some.

NightflowerFade

This is probably good for shareholders. There is plenty of reason for people to protest against and be politically opposed to companies like SpaceX but when people are shareholders, no matter how small, they feel personally invested in the success of the company. This is a good marketing and PR move.

Varjek

Ok. It’s not unusual for charitable giving to start with a public pledge. And there are tax breaks associated with charitable giving. And good PR is a factor for sure. So you’ve stated an obvious fact or two about how these things always get done. Neat.

FistEnergy

where's the gift? Feel free to circle back and rub my nose in this one if it actually happens. As of now there is no gift, just a PR statement with no burden.

elementalshaman1337

Hi everyone! SPYR News earlier talks about an agreement with Ledjr AI. Could be wrong but SPYR liabilities went from around 28 million to around 700k more or less. Ledjr AI is a revenue company also. So they’ve lowered the liabilities a good amount. Based off the PR they also have a goal of pursuing an uplist* to NASDAQ or NYSE eventually. My other post was on AMFN and I found that around 1 cent and it eventually went to 20 cents. I’ve been commenting SPYR since the 0.0005 range. I don’t know why y’all downvote, this isn’t some discord or stock course. Part of this is I want others to succeed. Do your DD if you would like.

KyleAg06

I am a QA engineer who basically uses Claude to review PR's and review and write test plans. I have used 30 dollars in 2 weeks of work. Actual engineers would use 30 dollars in a day. You might as well not have it at all.

Remarkable_Table_737

Oh I can give some insight! We just started this. I used to just copy and paste code snippets into ai and give it only small context relevant to the problem but now we jumped straight into agents! I have three agents and the entire process is completely automated. One prompt I type into goes into the lead agent, the two coding agents only talk to the lead agent. In about a month they’ve coded thousands of lines, would have taken me a year to accomplish this. Visually, it works? I peaked under the hood and nearly had a panic attack seeing the sheer amount of code I’d need to check someday when this glass object breaks. The lead also handles the PR. This is my brilliant managers idea to yolo it all because we’re a small team with limited funding in his mind if we can release the product in months instead of years we can spend the next couple years we would be coding fixing the problems and debugging instead

jasperCrow

That was because of the roadster kick flip. Which we all knew was just a PR stunt we were going to buy puts into

Eazy-Eid

No it's just PR

creativechef253

Looking at this purely from the laws of physics, real-world engineering, and common sense, this whole setup falls apart off the bat: 1. **Surface Adhesion & Angles:** How is the car sticking to those surfaces at such extreme angles? To hang on steep transitions or go past the blue line into the red zone without rolling backward or pitching nose-first over itself, you’d need massive active underbody suction or magnetic track interlocks. The moment speed drops or a seal breaks, gravity takes over and it instantly flips. 2. **The Energy Problem:** Jettisoning and flipping a heavy vehicle takes a massive burst of kinetic energy. Even if they’re using high-pressure compressed-air cold-gas thrusters (\~10,000 PSI), that high-pressure tank takes up the entire cabin and dumps its entire charge in seconds. It’s a literal one-and-done party trick that leaves you hauling dead weight until a full recharge. 3. **Nighttime & Smoke Cover-Up:** Staging this at night under heavy smoke isn't an aesthetic choice—it hides the guide mechanisms and masks the thermal/cryogenic exhaust required to keep those high-drain components from melting. 4. **Street Legality & Insurance:** Beyond the physics, there is zero chance a vehicle like this ever becomes 'street-legal' or gets approved by a standard auto insurer. Firing high-pressure cold-gas bursts on a public road would shatter adjacent windshields, blast road debris into pedestrians, and create massive liability. In the age of content creation, hand anyone this kind of clout-chasing stunt prop, and they’ll crash it into a highway overpass in twenty minutes. 5. **Market Reality & Hype:** For anyone believing this is real and lining up to invest more into the company on the back of clips like this—it isn't going to hold up when actual production models hit the market. Does anyone recall the Cybertruck rollout? Between stuck accelerator pedals, failing wiper motors, detaching trim pieces, inverter shutdowns, and double-digit recall lists, the gap between CGI-style promotional hype and actual engineering reality is massive. What we’re looking at isn't a consumer car you can actually buy and drive to the store—it’s an uninsurable, over-hyped stunt prop built purely for PR.

ArtisanalCoder

I’ve been toying a bit with Claude mainly to generate documentation and help with a pretty large codebase. It’s decent at comparison and burning tokens and bloating its cache. But if you give it a task like “find all tech debt”, and sure it’ll create a list. Now work through it, and ask “what’s next?” Opus 5.5 always has something it wants to fix. You never reach done because it doesn’t understand what done is. So we are back to using a harness. Now, what I don’t care for with vibing a junior just hitting yes to every change and not understand what’s going on across abstraction boundaries, or performance and security implications. TL;DR if you want maintainable code that humans can craft, it needs to be laid out with care. You can opt to prompt small changes (if you wanted) but ensure you diff and read through the entire PR. Vibing fails when you’re just meat bashing the return key.

Xannot

PR? The Cybercab has been deployed in Austin for about a month or 2 now, there are around 300 Cybercab already deployed in Texas. And for FSD v14, it has already been out for a year. These are actual deployment not marketing bullshit, go watch how Cybercab and FSD 14 perform, it's amazing!

Acceptable-Future-66

It’s simply a brief reprieve for Trump pre-midterms whilst the US uses Europe to continue its war of aggression against Russia whilst having plausible deniability and narrative control for the public who think the US must not be causing aggression because it’s doing side deals with Russia. Ukraine cannot survive without the US. If the US really withdrew support then the war would be over. The war is not over, actually it’s escalating. US uses Europe to escalate against Russia and is destroying its infrastructure and making it spend its resources fighting in Ukraine and defending against attacks into Russia. Simultaneously it starves China of fossil fuels via Iran blockade and destroys oil supplies in the Middle East, even with Iran doing some of the destruction for it. Before all of this, they took Venezuela. So who now holds most of the oil, gas and non blown up refineries in the world, situated thousands of miles away from all the violence? Yes, the USA. What was the first thing the US did after it goaded Russia into invading Ukraine after the coup and constant shell g of Eastern Ukraine? It blew up the nordstream pipeline. If you think it’s a coincidence that fossil fuel supply and refineries are being destroyed all over the world simultaneously whilst the US consolidates supply and control, you’re following the PR narrative and not the facts.

Derp800

I don't believe PR shit. Get it approved for road usage and show real life tests and I'll be convinced. So far all I've seen is excuses year after year from Elon. It's always one year away.

geek180

It’s not intended to be. It’s probably already paid for itself in PR and marketing.

V2inMyGym_DA_

You guys are retarded if you think this has been developed with teslas in mind. Probably will be used by SpaceX vehicle and just presented in a Tesla for PR.

YoungBockRKO

You do realize the McMurtry Speirling exists right? A car using the same concept for downforce as the roadster. The flying stuff is all PR and to look cool, the actual function of the fan vacuum and thrusters can be put into a production vehicle for track use. The McMurtry Speirling is also capable of being upside down, has 1000hp and for a paltry 1.2m can be yours! Also street legal with another 250k in mods. This, if the numbers are accurate, is just an extreme version of McMurtry.

sb8948

No way there is a person in there. Tesla obviously has the self driving tech to just go in a straight line, and there's no way a human was operating the flip and landing. It would just add an unnecessary human factor, more weight and the chance for an absolute PR disaster if something goes wrong.

avdpos

Having it as a fun PR thingy about what they can do is a bit fun and silly. Saying it will be in production is stupid

Garin999

When you've been teasing "something special" for months, have a stagnant product line, falling sales, and a major PR issue. Yeah, a non-functional gimmick that belongs in a monster truck show isn't going to get serious people to invest.

DetectiveUnited1036

PR stunt the stock was tanking so they pulled a money shot and instead the market came all over their ticker, love to see it

No_Dingo2476

Agreed. Fantastic PR stunt, its all over my social media. I thought it was cool and I'm not into Tesla vehicles whatsoever

fmaz008

*slightly faster* is an understatement. It's A LOT faster... As in, if I was to 100% trust AI, not audit much and just vibe code everything away, I could tackle a few months long project in 2-3 days. And that's not even talking about automating maintenance. For example: monitor errors logs, if more than X users encounter an error, have an agent analyze it against the code base and submit a pull request with a patch and a detailed bug report. Only need an experience person to review the PR and approve it if it's valid. There are definitely real massive avantage to AI. The problems are mainly: - the cost for the business using AI - the AI companies needs to be profitable - losing a human understanding of your code base. (AI slop is real and as it adds up, it tend to overcomplicate implementations) - I could foresee some liability concerns as well when something goes wrong and everyone blame the AI.

yobroseidon

TBF, it's the roadster it's not meant to be owned by the general populous - He unveiled a crazy package that you'll have multi-millionaires buying, but no one else. This was a PR Stunt, and a damn good one at that. Give credit where its due.

EthanielRain

Looks like they can actually have people drive them Nobody will ever drive the car you're so amazed about. It's a death trap/PR stunt

yobroseidon

Holy shit, this was a PR Stunt?! No WAy! Wow, you're so smart! /s redditors are genuinely fucking retarded - like no shit sherlock

catfromgarfield

tfw when the flying car PR stunt you spent billions of dollars on doesn't move the share price

jasperCrow

Kick flip roadster PR stunt, the perfect exit liquidity pump 🤣

Special-Bet1141

Meh. Just another stupid PR stunt for the brand recognition. 

TheAndyGeorge

an automatic PR bot cost us $28 to approve a whitespace removal. thanks clod!!

usercb

My thought was… how unprepared. Why does the richest guy in the world do a presentation hem hawing around like a 6th grader? Use your PR TEAM for God’s sake. It’s a real job. They prepare presentations for their jobs. Jesus F Christ. Not cool at all. Embarrassing the US on the world stage. Thanks a lot. \\s

M3rch4ntm3n

tesla and spacex PR-stuntcar

jasperCrow

LMAO Tesla already dumping. Guess Elon needs to work on the next PR stunt so the stock price can pump. Tired of the price being the same it was 5 years ago

Available_Pie_7758

All PR. This isn’t coming out anytime soon. When it does it won’t do any of it. Cuz it won’t be street legal

MILF_Goddess740

The military. If he got up there and showed off rocket trim on a small UGV (robot tank the size of a car), it would be terrible PR. Putting it on a regular car hypes up the market while showing off to the *real* customer- the government. I don't like Elon Musk. And I have no idea how well the rocket trim would work. But I'm betting Pete Hegseth will see the video and react like a whiskey soaked 12 year old.

ComfortableNumb9669

This is just how algorithmic trading works though. The PR stunt paid off because a lot of people are talking about that company and using words like innovation, engineering, achievement etc. System believes that this company is going to go up, so it recommends calls.

badboybk

Pure PR stunt, nothing more

krakoi90

>driving off a cliff There're the driving assistant features that should prevent you from that. >the bridge collapses under you Yeah, well real life is not a James Bond movie. The tech is cool, the demo was cool, I think this is a really good PR stunt personally for Elon and for the whole Tesla brand. Way more fitting than the dumb cybertruck was. Almost on the level of the roadster flying into space and then the rockets returning. But is this a useable, sellable product? Nah. They will probably ship some of these as toys/collector cars to rich people but that's it. It's just a matketing stunt.

CommanderFlapjacks

Opus and fable burn way higher, fable spent $40 on a pretty simple PR review the one time I tried it. Opus could easily be $50 to make a design doc for a new feature. I think either opus 5 verbosity or their harness is just inefficient, company switched to cursor and using far less now. That said I could see myself spending like $1k/month using the higher tier models, I don't really know how people spend 5 figures.

MelangeBot

The first part of a long PR series to hype up and justify merging all his companies in to one.