PR

judge_mercer

>the whole ICE thing and all that deportation. The rate of deportations is similar to that in the last year of Biden's term. This is mostly a PR effort. If the goal was to maximize deportations, there would be constant raids on businesses like farms, feed lots, hotels and meat packing plants. Trump doesn't want to punish these businesses which supported him, so a disproportionate number of raids are happening in blue cities. >this could be amazing for Ford Ford has extensive foreign supply chains. They would also fare poorly in a recession. Where they might have an advantage is the fact that they are a well-known US company and might be more likely to score tariff exemptions than a foreign company which had a similar level of US-based labor inputs.

corruptbytes

this is purely PR

gnobile

Elon's cronies board really doing it, Really??? PR stunt, I will believe it when I see it.

gnobile

PR stunt to pump the stock up. I will believe when I see it....

Philip-Ilford

He spent it on PR.

Historical-Egg3243

Nah that was just to distract ppl from Facebook terrible PR

Narrow_Order7885

Here's a balanced not-bot view.... I confess I bought into the hype with a minimum investment about a year ago. I still haven't decided if this is a good equity investment or a highly risky one. Y'all might want to take a look at the bull/bear analysis on Hubtas here: [https://media.hubtas.com/2024/11/27/investing-in-mode-mobile-guide-research-and-analysis/](https://media.hubtas.com/2024/11/27/investing-in-mode-mobile-guide-research-and-analysis/) It could go either way, the model seems robust but only if they get the right retail and ad partners and can catch local (countrywide) markets with known local brands as well as global ones. Offering cheap phones might work in markets with low penetration. And although the heavy PR thing rankles and makes them look inauthentic, they are playing for unsophisticated markets. Perhaps building hype will build revenue, confidence and with it, their ability to develop the model. However, as the app stands, I don't like the execution - it's gamified and spammy, lots of cartoony game things and the crypto coin might be appealing to some but not all. Maybe it's just me being old - like in my 20´s before the internet was a thing - I don't like it entirely. Kinda reminds me of the shopping channel in the 80's. But hey, those channels made a lot of money - I will watch and wait.

_hiddenscout

Calls haven't happened yet. MSFT didn't say anything in the PR, but META said they are increasing capex for hardware in data centers. MSFT did say part of the Azure growth is coming from AI.

deadmanwalknLoL

Imo, it comes down to if the police unions get all up in arms about it. If they don't, it's an easy PR win for trump. He gets to play the populist at no cost to him and serves as a great distraction when he needs one. If the police unions make a big stink about it though. He may ditch the idea.

optiontrader1138

> A natural question when you hear this is, "if that's true, why isn't the stock market down more?" And I think a lot of the answer to this question can be summed up as: hardly anyone is paid to care. I'm not going to respond to your premise that 'hardly anyone is paid to care' because it's irrelevant. The market is down for one reason: **the current price reflects the aggregate wisdom of all participants**. Now therein lies the rub. The markets tend to be pretty efficient except when there is considerable divergence in expectations. If you are to believe the media (and reddit, which blindly follows the media), then the market "should" be lower. How low? Dunno, just lower. Or at least it should be going lower. But it's not. The VIX is quietly going down. Despite the fear mongering headlines (which get attention and clicks), there are a lot of indicators which suggest the popular narrative is quite wrong. So that means someone is right, and someone is wrong. There's a lot of smart money out there and it doesn't pay PR firms to blast its convictions. It doesn't argue. It just trades. And believe me, it really cares about capital preservation and growth. A lot. The consensus is usually wrong. While people are fearful, you should be greedy. And when they are greedy, you should be fearful. It's always the same, it's happening right now.

ichfahreumdenSIEG

Man, I hate to disappoint you, but it’s worse than that. These are Direct Response Marketing techniques literally taught in marketing books such as Russell Brunson’s Dotcom Secrets. Every PR major you know, has studies this.

31513315133151331513

Oh come on! You think Big Sweet Potato is so innocent?! All these fruits and veggies just care more about PR!!

aais4quiters

He will hurry up the review to justify keeping it where it is. Hurrying the review won’t be about lowering the schedule. They will use to for PR before pulling the rug though.

Visible_Bat2176

sorry, guys, your country surely had one of the best PR in the world :)) i guess it always was like this, like a south/central american joke of a country :))

ThatOneRedditBro

This was already baked in. Surprise mag7 earnings Minerals deal India deal Japan deal. The 🥭 man is just waiting to strike and squeeze the bulls with a PR campaign. 

AdaBetterThanIota

My Biotech portion of my portfolio has been hurting in 2025, but there are a few outliers in there that have performed surprisingly well. Where do I go to learn more about these. any PR?

tsegelke

Go watch Pixar's Inside Out. It's clearly a movie about the corruption of Wall Street. Riley represents the naive stock market, and her emotions are the corrupting forces of Wall Street. Joy embodies the initial allure of easy profits and unchecked growth, while Sadness signifies the eventual market crashes and investor despair that are ignored. Anger represents the aggressive, self-serving greed and unethical practices, and Fear highlights the constant anxiety of getting caught, driving more reckless behavior. Disgust embodies the superficial image and deceptive PR used to mask the underlying rot, ultimately leading to Riley's (the market's) disillusionment and instability as the core values are lost.

ImmodestPolitician

I don't think there was any evidence Amazon was actually going to show the tariffs. It was just a rumor. Trump's PR people attacked Amazon anyway. I'm starting to think that Trump and his sycophants don't like free speech as much as they say.

RaZE___SoViEt

**$DMN** needs to respond to T12 SEC request and drop PR to choke out the 900m+ off exchange shorts, justify the dilution that’s been happening and get it to 0.13-0.2 to get ready for impending RS or get delisted.

hombre_bat

Elon in Doge tanked Tesla's reputation. Elon stepping back from Doge will help to rebuild the reputation, which makes it more likely for people to start buying again. Tesla is the most established EV brand, and lots of people are moving towards EVs. The product itself is pretty great if you remove the bad PR. Stock prices are affected more by the future outlook of the company rather than the last 3-12 months. Would have been a good time to buy Tesla stock a couple weeks ago if you wanted to sell out for a solid bump. But I also don't want to contribute to that dickhead, even if it means making a few bucks.

xCAPTSTONERB91x

You sound like the PR person for Indian PM talking about Muslims.

Stonkrates

Eggs is like the weakest think to bring up more than one time. Who tf is the PR team?

RaZE___SoViEt

DMN will answer with PR and stock will go parabolic.

horrormetal

>Propaganda Barbie Omg I have been calling her "PR Barbie"; this is so much better!

Visible_Bat2176

American PR was the best. But, in the end, it was just PR. Now we can flush the american toilet and move on. The sooner, the better...

CalebAsimov

They don't control the PR machine though, that's the problem. Even if they could get Fox News on board with ditching Trump, which would be tough, the Russian and Musk propaganda machines have a lot of people blindly believing them. The Republican party is totally in the control of people that support Trump, it's a dictatorship. That said, they don't work for Trump, they work for us, so they should just take the fall and vote with their conscience instead of their re-election.

Thraex_Exile

I think it’s fully possible the trade deal is real. Lots of countries are dependent on American trade. Those same countries are probably much more valuable PR tools if they remain anonymous. Whether it’s real or not, I think it’s same to assume this announcement won’t help with global trade deals.

suninabox

>Edit: welp, it was fake news. Amazon denies it planned to disclose cost of US tariffs on its website | Reuters Amazon denying something that turned politically toxic doesn't mean it was fake news. How many times have we heard some tech company "denies its going to do [x thing that will piss off customers]" only for them to quietly re-introduce it later after the bad press has died down. Corporate responsibility is usually so defuse that some PR person can say "we have no plans to do X" with a straight face even when some other part of the organization is planning on doing it, and if they're called out they just say "well, we didn't know they were working on it" or "they were just strategizing, there was no formal plan"

LoveMascMen

Hahahahaaaa. Very happy China is feeling incredibly insulted by the USA (as they should). China is riding a wave of very good PR right now and Trump did that for them. Trumps second term has been bad for Americans, amazing for Russians and almost absolutely iconic for the CCP. They firmly get to position themselves as the moral high ground for once and ofc they will milk this for all it's worth. Good luck paying more for everything Trump lovers.

ProfessionalGear1051

YES, it was already priced in, they literally announced this partnership 3 weeks ago on “Liberation Day” so it was obviously overshadowed. I think HIMS’ marketing team has realized the art of releasing PR to pump the stock given how many regards follow AI-powered “news” and “investing” outlets. Great time to short the stock again.

raupster

Now Amazon is saying this was just an idea and was never approved/going to happen… so let’s cool it with the positive PR spin for Amazon. They haven’t yet had the change of heart they are being credited with… [NYT GIFT ARTICLE LINK](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/29/us/politics/trump-amazon-tariffs-prices.html?unlocked_article_code=1.DU8.X9m4.0z_VCk1LmHI6&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare)

AdvancedSandwiches

Their PR machine controls what people think of Trump.  They could hit the "too extreme" button any time they felt like it.

SpittingT

Hamburger menu PR Newswire: news distribution, targeting and monitoring US Consumer Confidence Plunged Again in April (PRNewsfoto/The Conference Board) News provided by The Conference Board  Apr 29, 2025, 10:00 ET Consumers' expectations for the future are at a 13-year low NEW YORK, April 29, 2025 /PRNewswire/ -- The Conference Board Consumer Confidence Index® fell by 7.9 points in April to 86.0 (1985=100). The Present Situation Index—based on consumers' assessment of current business and labor market conditions—decreased 0.9 points to 133.5. The Expectations Index—based on consumers' short-term outlook for income, business, and labor market conditions—dropped 12.5 points to 54.4, the lowest level since October 2011 and well below the threshold of 80 that usually signals a recession ahead. The cutoff date for preliminary results was April 21, 2025. "Consumer confidence declined for a fifth consecutive month in April, falling to levels not seen since the onset of the COVID pandemic," said Stephanie Guichard, Senior Economist, Global Indicators at The Conference Board. "The decline was largely driven by consumers' expectations. The three expectation components—business conditions, employment prospects, and future income—all deteriorated sharply, reflecting pervasive pessimism about the future. Notably, the share of consumers expecting fewer jobs in the next six months (32.1%) was nearly as high as in April 2009, in the middle of the Great Recession. In addition, expectations about future income prospects turned clearly negative for the first time in five years, suggesting that concerns about the economy have now spread to consumers worrying about their own personal situations. However, consumers' views of the present have held up, containing the overall decline in the Index." April's fall in confidence was broad-based across all age groups and most income groups. The decline was sharpest among consumers between 35 and 55 years old, and consumers in households earning more than $125,000 a year. The decline in confidence was shared across all political affiliations. Guichard added: "High financial market volatility in April pushed consumers' views about the stock market deeper into negative territory, with 48.5% expecting stock prices to decline over the next 12 months (the highest share since October 2011). Meanwhile, average 12-month inflation expectations reached 7% in April—the highest since November 2022, when the US was experiencing extremely high inflation." Write-in responses on what topics are affecting views of the economy revealed that tariffs are now on top of consumers' minds, with mentions of tariffs reaching an all-time high. Consumers explicitly mentioned concerns about tariffs increasing prices and having negative impacts on the economy. Inflation and high prices remained important for consumers' views about the economy: while the majority complained about the high cost of living, there were also some references to declines in the prices of gas and some food items. There were also numerous mentions of stock prices and uncertainty. Consumers' views of their Family's Current and Future Financial Situations remained in positive territory but weakened substantially. The proportion of consumers anticipating a recession over the next 12 months rose to a two-year high. (These measures are not included in calculating the Consumer Confidence Index®). The share of consumers expecting higher interest rates over the next 12 months continued to increase while the share of consumers expecting lower interest rates dropped further. On a six-month moving average basis, purchasing plans for both homes and cars declined, as did vacation intentions. Plans to buy big-ticket items—including appliances and electronics—pulled back in April but were mostly up on a 6-month moving average basis. Consumers' overall intentions to purchase more services in the months ahead were down, with almost all services categories affected. While dining out remained number one among spending intentions, the share of consumers planning to spend more on dining out in the months ahead registered one of the largest month-on-month declines on record in April. Present Situation Consumers' assessments of current business conditions were more positive in April. 19.2% of consumers said business conditions were "good," up from 18.3% in March. 16.1% said business conditions were "bad," down from 16.5%. Consumers' views of the labor market weakened in April. 31.7% of consumers said jobs were "plentiful," down from 33.6% in March. 16.6% of consumers said jobs were "hard to get," up from 16.1%. Expectations Six Months Hence Consumers' outlook for business conditions fell further in April. 15.7% of consumers expected business conditions to improve, down from 17.8% in March. 34.8% expected business conditions to worsen, up from 26.1%. Consumers' outlook for the labor market outlook also worsened in April. 13.7% of consumers expected more jobs to be available, down from 16.7% in March. 32.1% anticipated fewer jobs, up from 28.8%. Consumers turned negative about their income prospects in April. 15.0% of consumers expected their incomes to increase, down from 17.1% in March. 18.2% expected their income to decrease, up from 14.9%. Assessment of Family Finances and Recession Risk Consumers' assessments of their Family's Current Financial Situation deteriorated in April.  Consumers' assessments of their Family's Expected Financial Situation declined to the lowest level since the question was first asked in 2022. Consumers' Perceived Likelihood of a US Recession over the Next 12 Months increased in April. The monthly Consumer Confidence Survey®, based on an online sample, is conducted for The Conference Board by Toluna, a technology company that delivers real-time consumer insights and market research through its innovative technology, expertise, and panel of over 36 million consumers. The cutoff date for the preliminary results was April 21. Source: April 2025 Consumer Confidence Survey® The Conference Board

aced13

No propaganda needed. The orange asshole is being openly corrupt now. Every day is some new PR disaster for him and his inept team.

Crazypyro

Bezos trying to disappear an entire PR team right now.

SnepbeckSweg

I’m reading Achilles Trap right now.. you’re wrong. There was certainly some people within the administration that believed Saddam had WMDs (or close to it), but it was not based off of intelligence. The people that believed that (Wolfowitz, Cheney) were considered hawks by others within the administration that were clearly looking for anything that might support their preexisting view. Additionally, they were purposefully ignoring all of the intelligence showing otherwise.. which there was a lot of. Others, like Powell, knew that this was the case and did not believe the hawks - however, they justified everything by saying Saddam was a threat no matter what. So no, you are wrong, and verifiably so - the few people that truly believed in what you’re saying were known to be stretching the truth by their colleagues and were not believed. It was not until an invasion was already decided on that the administration collectively started running a PR campaign to manufacture consent.

monkelus

The only insight you've given me is that there really are people who bought into Musk's real life Tony Stark PR bollocks.

GenTelGuy

There's plenty of corruption in China, lots of people get seriously wealthy from it and then use that wealth to buy up real estate in the US and Canada They compensate for the corruption they don't catch by dropping huge punishments on the people they do catch, which is good PR

Lost-Cabinet4843

I'm going to be crass, but there is no other way to put this: You do NOT fuck with chinese people when you make them lose face. Trumps arrogant little hound dog (vp) called them hillbillies and they purposely put it all over social media in the PR. That is a slap in the face and to come back from this will take a long long long time. These maroons in office have no understanding or interest in other cultures, negotiations, anything.

Josepth_Blowsepth

I’m sure Canada would take PR off the US hands

RenaStriker

Elon has stopped making a fool of himself and has stated that he plans on getting fully out of politics. That definitely makes Tesla worth more than it was three months ago, when his bad PR looked like it would continue indefinitely.

RaisedByHoneyBadgers

Yes, he has https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZgNBXIZ-OU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmOUteNMRiI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2HZs-v0PR44

No-Sympathy3276

IMHO he is the Robert Maxwell of our time. It’s unlikely to end well for him. That dude tried to hide his business mistakes by pumping his share price with all kinds of loans, borrowings and option trading which inevitably and eventually unraveled. Now that the walls are closing in, the full extent of what has gone on behind closed doors, will slowly and then quickly be revealed. Dude has bet the house on red 10 times in a row and won. That can’t continue indefinitely. We don’t know what is happening but logic would suggest hundreds of millions are being burned in options premiums to keep the share price up. Given the total collapse in the car business profitability and the weak robotaxi story, combined with a mega bubble valuation, it’s the only rational explanation. It also fits with the coordinated timing of call buying and PR announcements. Sometimes it’s possible to catch a break down the road and recover but it looks like too many wheels have come off now. Bottom line, people don’t want the cars any more and robotaxis business looks like a dud and is not going to generate the tens of billions of FCF the stock market will demand. As for the robots. Please, grow up. Add in a failing Twitter and you have a guy who is going to run out of cash eventually. Only thing that could save him would be a continuation of the bubble stock market. Sell more shares in hot air to raise money. But that looks less likely in the face of a looming global recession. We’ll see but it doesn’t look good.

NealioSpace

Up 16% on higher than avg volume. Looking good coming into earnings. The PR today was kind of a nothingBurger, but good communication is rewarded IMHO. Updates are great vs No updates. Business plan is being executed https://preview.redd.it/pvxksv7qvmxe1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7c98516b0ec3474ba583f9912f87d8112257128

Particular_Pool8344

I think Trump's PR team has got hold of something sinister here. They are experimenting with social media propaganda to see whether they can distort the reality and truth by spreading as much false propaganda as possible. This is interesting to even think that this plan might work. Let's see...

NealioSpace

New PR updating progress of selling commercial product, IC Drone in Greece and Europe- [https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/DUKR/news/Duke-Robotics-Evaluating-Drone-Operators-in-Preparation-for-Commencement-of-Activities-in-Greece?id=474957](https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/DUKR/news/Duke-Robotics-Evaluating-Drone-Operators-in-Preparation-for-Commencement-of-Activities-in-Greece?id=474957)

swenau01

hahahaha what an absolute terrible response PR-wise

Remarkable-Winter348

Money they were expecting before this press release was held back by Trump administration but they're getting ready to release it and all the other stuff this PR talks about by late summer according to this leaked video of the company talking to Wall Street analysts recently: https://youtu.be/pW-TaDAtOqw?feature=shared

Worth_Feed9289

I don't think so. Word is, 2 dollars by Friday. There's activist investors buying it up. Some bad PR out there, about bankruptcy. They're calling BS.

rospider

Financial PR services 😬

AntoniaFauci

> I know people will say that Trump Will ignore the order, but here’s the difference; COMPANIES are the ones who pay the tariffs and all they need to do is simply not pay based on the ruling and Trump can’t do anything about that. The problem is “COMPANIES” will jack up prices to account for the possibility of being ordered to pay tariffs, and then when they’re not, they’ll pocket the difference. We’ve seen countless examples of this over the last five years of greed-flation and shrink-flation. Were Doritos workers given 70% raises and corn farmers getting 70% more? Nope. But somehow the product price is 50% higher and the package size is 25% smaller. Corporate PR just blames inflation, unions, chip shortage, supply chain, regulations, liberals, shoplifters, whatever.

AntoniaFauci

The angry sentiment at what MSFT is doing with Windows 11 seems to have breached containment from the IT world in to the general public. Microsoft has the potential of having contend with a growing PR disaster.

User5281

Before the “pedo guy” incident in 2018 he was viewed as a benign eccentric. He kind of kept it together for another year or two after that outburst before the mask came all the way off. I’m not saying he’s changed - in retrospect the clues were there - just that he did manage to pretend for a long time. The guy desperately needs to get a good PR team and to shut the fuck up.

squigs

It wasn't about DOGE! It was about the Nazi salutes! I think there's a PR push to reframe it and make people forget what they were angry about.

Voluptuary_Disciple

Thanks for the info. I go off Macroeconomic trends, political manipulations and history when I trade. You're all the experts, but I do ok. Comfortable. That being said, I am usually good at guessing about future opportunities in relation to world economic pressures and viable profitability opportunities per technical, social and political realities and future consequences, based on my natural interests, college degrees, reading scientific journals, continual reading of economic and political history, reading foreign news and comparatively neutral domestic news. Also taking into account you're insights here and other investing and trading subreddits, which incedently crack me up with your insightful humor and one sentence comebacks and self deprecating admissions, never taking anything seriously. Got out before the recent correction. Coming back in on traditional safe havens to keep in the game. Which it is for me. Psychology of FOMO based on perception that short term profit can be had if the Cheato keeps his 90 day hold and then jumping out a week before. Obviously no guarantees based on narcissist attention opportunities for a sociopathic felon that is SLAPP suiting the country looking for ratings, stress testing his power, and who also poisons the reputation of anyone seen as associating and helping the Spoiling Florida Orange Felon. (Think Giuliani, all the lawyers and cabinet members thrown under the bus that haven't recovered.) Still, worth some risk for buying the dip. All this being said up to this point, I did buy Palantir without due diligence on leadership, specifically morally bankrupt Thiel. This is my mistake and I own it. I recognize its potential for insightful predictions in warfare and other ancillary applications, I also see the potential for misuse, due to the statements and intentions of Thiel. Seems like now a tool to exercise control, reflecting the character of Thiel. Thank you for your insight concerning Musk and Thiel. I will immediately sell that shit. There are plenty of other opportunities that will provide decent returns. Sold Musk immediately after the Nazi fucker showed his PR incompetence in raising Hitler's "look at how big my penis is" salute while biting his upper lip in glee. Fuck that guy, my Grandfather fought Nazis in the Battle of the Bulge and is turning over in his grave.

Moselypup

I think Tesla will be fine if the board convinced Elon to step down and work on their PR sooner rather than later

callmesandycohen

I have Canadian PR and Canadian accounts. I move money across the border. But this time is pretty markedly different, I want to move most of it out (except obviously my home equity) and into Canadian brokerage accounts and Canadian publicly listed companies. No American assets for me right now.

Specific-Change9678

Everything I’ve seen is in the 5/1 to 5/9 range. Have been trying to find definitive date. I might email them tho hear they aren’t always the best with PR. Will report back if I get more info!

ObscureUsername000

It has too many typos and misspellings and sounds too much like someone's crazy old racist uncle to be a PR professional

-IQ200

Imagine thinking it’s Donnie himself posting on Truth. It’s just his PR team. 

sortahere5

He's getting afraid of the blowback when the flow of cheap goods stop and the Economy falls apart. He knows the billionaires will have people coming for them at that time. Just typical PR tactics. This time, we can't forget. You cant be a billionaire philanthropist. Only an ex billionaire philanthropist. The wealth these people have accrued is destabilizing in a democracy. We can't allow it. Its going to be ugly.

moist_butthole69

So what do they do? “The company offers financial PR services” (per company description on fidelity) Ok so they do nothing. >China No. In other words, this is a bot pushing this shit.

Lucaslouch

It already had a monstrous PE before being close to the administration. Plenty of retail uber bulls and lots of expectation on FSD even if we have been waiting for robotaxis for 8 years now. If robotaxis where on the road worldwide and if there was no PR disaster linked to Elon, valuation could make sense… Currently, it doesn’t in particular with the current growth expectations

Objective_Ticket

Up 18% in a week for a company that’s lost market share, lost business advantage, has a mountain to climb with its PR. I give up 🤷‍♂️

Throwingdartsmouth

I would bet my life that most of these celebrities who very publicly pledge donations for various causes, like natural disasters, never donate shit. Paparazzi need to hound them for proof instead of letting them possibly lie just for positive PR. Or we could simply stop pointing cameras at these ghouls and, more than anything, stop admiring them (and probably start viewing them with active derision). Like, do they really think they deserve pats on the back for donating $10k when their net worth is in the tens of millions? I see more generous people every week at church, and their money is straight up wasted by the Catholic Church or just added to the Vatican's fucking hedge fund... Moreover, the most charitable people I have met in my lifetime would never broadcast their generosity because they know it's not about them at all -- it's about the people who need help. We could heal a bit as a society if we started lionizing those folks instead of current celebrities.

PrinceGreenEyes

I am doubtfool it will work without PR campaign- hence they should do what crypto bros do. Would not touch tesler in any form at the moment since it is meme.

ddak88

Success is now measured in the amount of garbage shot into space using government funding? Sounds like someone isn't that informed on the long term effects of launching massive quantities of low orbit satellites. We're already seeing more collisions and debris creating a danger for those in space and on the ground. Also, you do realize we're talking about Tesla in this thread right? SpaceX is an entirely separate entity that you cannot buy into. Furthermore SpaceX is run by qualified engineers, Elon has never held a role in their operations besides the occasional PR blast. I get that you like the guy but come back to reality.

Taraxian

Also just, like, don't shut up about it Trump might be able to protect Elon from legal consequences but not PR consequences, every Tesla accident needs to be blasted all over social media whether or not mainstream news has the balls to cover it

SoulShatter

Yep, wouldn't surprise me to see purposeful sabotage, Waymo/Cruise both got sabotaged in LA by putting traffic cones etc on the cars just from locals being annoyed with the cars. Meanwhile Tesla has even bigger PR issues. And Tesla needs it to go perfectly, and to be able to quickly scale it to actually justify the implied value. Any accidents can cause huge issues (see GM giving up on Cruise). Accidents feel pretty likely, considering vision only, assuming it'll ever get out of having a 'safety driver' stage.

SwoleBuddha

And the crazy thing is, I'm not sure this is a bad strategy from a PR, approval rating perspective. We could be in the midst of a global recession a year from now and as long as Trump projects confidence, his base will probably continue to eat it up.

BrokerBrody

The Chinese government is most likely lying this time for posterity/PR. There is a CNN article with an update and there are a LOT of named ground sources and the exemptions are already in effect.

kaizen-rai

You're right, it's not a "perfect" response because it's a subjective opinion so it literally can't be "perfect" (however you try to define that). And yes, there is some emotion in it. Frustration mostly with current events, and how they've directly affected me and my family. The administration has NOT been transparent on the key drivers, nor do their publicly made statements (often conflicting day by day) show any rational justification for the policies that have been enacted. Couple that with outright lying and gaslighting of the results by the PR team and that ACTUAL economic experts wholly disagree with the actions, and seeing the ACTUAL, TANGIBLE results, then it's obvious they have no idea what they're doing. They don't know what they're doing because they're stupid, put in place by stupid voters. Call it emotional or whatever you want, the facts speak for themselves if you ignore the gaslighting from the administration.

StrangeAd4944

It’s like that PR call he made to a radio show pretending to be someone else.

Ytrewq9000

I don’t think Xi will make the first move. Xi knows that Trump is in a more precarious position than him. Xi can rally his people that the hardship is for national pride and we won’t give in. On the hand — Trump already blinked several times. Trump is sweating more than Xi is now. Xi has been taking the current situation as an opportunity to make trade deals with Cambodia, Vietnam, etc. and smoothing things with the EU. Trump hasn’t progressed at all besides the sounds bites PR messaging. His peace talks with EU on the Ukraine-Russia War just collapsed; negotiations with the EU and Japan are going nowhere. Sure India and South Korea said they have some sort of deal — but they are small trading partners compared to the EU and China.

CSStudent15

I feel like Warren Buffet's PR team has to be insane. The guy is a total piece of shit but everyone loves him

MrBobSacamano

I appreciate that they won’t let him have even the smallest of PR wins.

atsamuels

The strange day has come when we trust China’s PR over our own.

Neat_Egg_2474

t rizzle gives no fucks about the auto industry. If China pays him and gives him a PR win he will gladly force GM to sell their factories to China.

Learning-Power

That Nazi salute is going to go down in history as one of the single dumbest things anyone has ever done. The most expensive PR catastrophe ever. What an idiot.

Enzzo-

All I see is a company with the only self driving capability on the road along with the ceo being involved with the recent nasa astronaut rescue. Stocks like good PR too

No-Elephant-9854

Ah that part is a total shit show. I am saying Musk leaving DOGE is likely good and a reason for the stock price to bounce back a bit. It is not that that POS is great, it’s more that he won’t do as much damage from a PR perspective for Tesla.

Ytrewq9000

Trump and WH is losing credibility — there’s no concrete steps to any negotiation and they just keep announcing PR statements just to pump the markets. At some point the markets will realize their statements are bullshit (they are close to that point). US companies can’t plan anything when the orange man keeps changing tariffs whenever he wants.

Ytrewq9000

Fucking Bessent shared private public information to a bunch of hedge funds managers and high level wall street people and they pumped the markets. Then fucking Trump repeated the same bullshit about lowering tariffs against china. Then Bessent said the tariffs won’t be lowered unilaterally — meaning that China has give in (which they won’t). And said the trade negotiations will take 2-3 years. Market is pumping over no substances PR statements. China has no negotiated anything — they may be talking to the WH but there’s no concrete steps to any negotiations. Why? Because the Chinese notice that the Japanese, EU, Canada, etc. haven’t made any deals with the U.S. So why should China rush to be the first? They will just sit back and watch the shitshow unfold

Environmental-Meal14

Briefly looking at it, it's probably sticker shock from the drop after the big run-up. People tend to look at things as black/white. That being said it's a struggling bio stock with multiple recent P3 failures with the only "great news" coming from themselves via their IR and the user of pay-for-PR firms. I wouldn't look at this past today's pump personally, but don't think it warrants a downvote.

gtrocks555

Oh man, they are in crisis PR mode and he knows they fucked up.

Hercules1579

This ain’t just economic turbulence, this is the fallout of decades of elite greed mixed with a delusional man-child now back in the driver’s seat, slamming on the gas in a burning car. Trump is officially back in office, and what’s the first thing he does? Reignites a trade war with China — like the first one didn’t already drag us through chaos. But here’s the difference: China is not backing down this time. They’ve seen this movie. Last time, Trump announced deals and broke them a week later. “Phase One” was a PR stunt. Tariffs would go up on Monday, come down on Friday, and by Sunday he’s tweeting insults at Xi Jinping. China learned. Now they’re digging in. And this ain’t just tariffs on luxury items. These are tariffs on core goods — electronics, clothing, home goods, food packaging, everything in your cart at Target. Companies don’t have the margins to eat those costs, so guess who pays? Us. Or worse — your order just sits at the port until you pay the tariff directly, like some kind of customs ransom. That’s already happening. People are calling customer service wondering where their stuff is, and it’s just stuck. And this was all predictable. The global elite enabled this. They outsourced jobs to China to chase cheap labor, thinking they could absorb a little authoritarianism in exchange for fatter profits. They tried to globalize China into the system — WTO membership, tech transfer, intellectual property deals — because they saw dollar signs. But China played the long game. Now we’re dependent, and Trump is doing what Trump does: blowing up the economy on impulse because it looks good on cable news. Retailers are panicking. Supply chains are breaking — again. And it’s not just about shipping delays. This is about structural collapse. If companies start relocating warehouses out of China, they’re not just changing addresses. They’re rewriting entire logistics networks, laying off workers, and lowering revenue guidance by 30–40%. That’s market shock territory. If this keeps going, here’s what it looks like: Consumer inflation skyrockets — Everything costs more, not because demand is high, but because the supply is throttled. Unemployment rises — Retail and logistics get hit first. Tech follows. Government contracts dry up. GDP goes negative — Businesses stop spending. People stop buying. The economy shrinks. Stocks bleed out — Not a crash, but a grind. Month after month of erosion because nobody can price risk in a world run by chaos. Public services collapse — Local and federal governments start making cuts. Layoffs in education, infrastructure, and federal agencies. Populist anger grows — But guess who still gets paid? The billionaires who caused it. The ones that hoarded assets while sending your job overseas in the first place. So yes, gold miners might still hold up. Maybe. But even that’s shaky. We’re now in a world where America is being run like a tantrum with nukes, and global trade is being dictated by a man who thinks tariffs are just “winning fees.” We’re not in a downturn. We’re in a controlled demolition. And unfortunately, the guy holding the detonator has no idea which button does what.

ratedsar

If you're actually good at PR; an admin could levy 10% blanket tariffs, give the 2% payroll tax cut, call it a progressive sales tax; and call on Congress to turn the income tax into a similar model as a national sales tax with a universal basic income. While you're at it, you carefully explain to the world stage that your intentions are mostly modifying tax policy, that you respect free trade, other cultures, recent investment in the US, etc. If you really wanted to avoid rebuke; you'd justify the "build more here" and "mend it" policies as a way of reducing international shipping, spending on fast fashion - and similar, and being better for the climate.

Beautiful-Ebb5696

This stock needs and I mean needs a PR about what it's doing behind the scenes + if volume above 100 mil returns then we can see this rocket again. It's been pretty stagnant this week staying in the $0.029 area

Street_Pipe_6238

you can link all the articles, you are missing the point, it was some stupid timeframe where they sold more due to price drop and limited offer for 3 weeks. While there was most of the holidays, they spun it as PR for people like you but if you look into data they are not even close to the most selling EV in china. I was in china for 1 month in 3 different cities and you can spot tesla here and there but its dominated by CN cars.

Historical-Egg3243

Yes, buy a stock with terrible PR and an active investigation going on during a bear market. Bet that's going to work out well for you

Plastic-Edge-1654

Nothing makes sense! Elon straight up said, “There will probably be some unexpected bumps this year,” and called Q1 “usually the worst quarter of the year,” admitting there are “near-term headwinds for us and the broader industry.” He pointed to the Section 232 tariffs hitting in May, saying they “will have an impact on profitability,” especially with China controlling key parts like magnets for Optimus. He also warned that “the Optimus actuators… were affected by the supply chain” and admitted, “It is totally impossible to predict the production ramp” due to over 10,000 unique components. Even with new models starting production in June, he admitted the ramp “might be a little slower than we had hoped.” When you piece it all together, he’s telling us 2025 will be a rocky year—too many moving parts, too many headwinds, and not enough clarity to expect Tesla to crush it. Then we’ve got Trump— playing it cool, but if you read between the lines, China isn’t at the table yet. He said tariffs “will come down substantially, but it won’t be zero,” which sounds like he’s trying to bait a response. When asked if the situation with China was sustainable like his Treasury Secretary claimed, Trump dodged and just said, “We’re doing fine with China.” That’s not confidence—that’s PR. Then he throws out lines like “we’re going to live together very happily” and “be very nice,” which sounds less like tough negotiating and more like he’s trying to get Xi to pick up the phone. Treasury Secretary Bessent even admitted it’ll “be a slog” and that neither side sees the current setup as sustainable. No actual deal is on the table yet. Meanwhile, markets ripped +2.5% off Bessent’s leaked comments, which tells you exactly why Trump’s sweet-talking: (a) to pump the market and (b) to get China to blink first. Classic power play, but there’s no deal—just words. The market ripping today also makes no sense when you actually read what the IMF just said. They literally said Trump’s tariffs caused a “major negative shock” to the global economy and slashed U.S. growth from 2.7% to 1.8%. That’s not a soft landing—that’s a gut punch. Rachel Reeves is flying in to beg for tariff relief while IMF economists are warning firms will “pause, reduce investment, and cut purchases.” They’re saying uncertainty is tightening financial conditions globally and that it’s already a “negative demand shock.” Scott Bessent hasn’t even denied it—he called the trade war with China “unsustainable.” And yet the S&P pops over 2% today because he whispered the word “de-escalate” behind closed doors? That’s not fundamentals—that’s delusion. You’ve got the IMF on record saying things are breaking, and people are buying the bounce like it’s 2021. This is not bullish. It’s delusion. Not to mention, Powell is not going to cut rates!

Dry-Turnip5749

Wtf is going on with $TRNR? Usually it releases good PR and the price goes up…

Ytrewq9000

Because Trump put out a PR statement about China just after. And Elon emphasized that he’s leaving DOGE. Using the presidency to help his main financier Elon.

Successful-Peach-764

They don't even need PR teams, bootlickers provide free labour.

tyrooooo

That feeling when you’re one good PR away from generational wealth

Efficient_Maybe_1086

They will not suffer any PR damage. They are already painted as the aggrieved party. As far as the world cares it’s an underdog story.

refugeefromlinkedin

I don’t think the Chinese will refuse to back down. No doubt they know that they have the upper hand now and can deal catastrophic damage to the American economy, however doing so will cause them to sustain a PR hit at a time when they appear to be the reasonable party and risk Europe realigning with the US to curb their rise. I think they would be de-escalate but otherwise proceed as if the tariff war (and make no mistake, this is the world’s first true overt economic war) continues, I.e. build a new trading alliances and continue to curb the US ability to access critical raw materials. Trump has damaged the US brand enough that the Chinese have more soft power cards than they did previously.

stevenryl866

I bought at post market, after the PR and sold before post market closed.

No_Language5719

Clearly they took the PR hit from hell, but that difference in cash YOY is impressive even with the drop in sales revenue. A change in leadership is in order because this sentiment around their vehicles isn't going away soon. I'm curious why Starlink and Space X haven't taken similar hits.

s-mores

No bad PR. As evidenced here.