UPS

GhostsinGlass

That regard who posted about the UPS subreddit wasn't joking, it's a clusterfuck of Americans finding out about tariffs. [Dude orders a $4000 chair, gets $4700 in fees charged he has to pay or doesn't get his chair.](https://www.reddit.com/r/UPS/comments/1lm5pvf/massive_government_fee_on_imported_item/) [I just got a charge for $130 from UPS for an item I'm ordering from Germany.](https://www.reddit.com/r/UPS/comments/1lm4wm1/incorrectly_applied_tarriffs/) [Package valued at $1850, I'm importing video games from Japan, $269 fees. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UPS/comments/1lkqm0v/one_more_hit_by_mr_corns_tariffs/)

JRshoe1997

Good thing Apple, Ford, Mattel, UPS, Southwest, and Delta are not the entire US stock market.

Andyh10s

Puts coming back from the dead. Somehow UPS and SoFi calls surviving

Wonderful_Honey_1726

Not me, CEOs of major companies, people like Tim Cook who earlier said that beyond June it was difficult to predict with tariffs. He was front row with Trump and still didn’t know he’d pull back.  Also, just a few large companies who earlier pulled guidance because of tariffs and economic uncertainty: Ford Mattel UPS Southwest  Delta

chitoatx

The reality is UPS, USPS, FedEx, and DHL are sending tariff (aka tax) bills to Americans to collect this money. And the kicker is that we have to even pay for the declared value tariff on free warranty parts shipped into the states. People voted to lower prices and lower taxes and Trump did the exact opposite and then some on the 99%.

Leroy--Brown

Anyone else remember the last Trump presidency? Volatility is the name of the game. UPS and downs and UPS and downs. This is what happens when the news comes at you with the strength of a firehouse blasting you in the face. Tarrif pause expires in about 2 weeks. Deals will be announced. Other tarrifs will be announced. Bridges will be burnt. They will announce emergencies and problems that they create, then they will quickly announce solutions to the problems that they created. Nobody can predict anything accurate for you, except for volatility. Lots and lots of volatility.

DaMarketWizard

What’s your goals? Income or growth? Did you spend your rental income? If so, maybe you’re looking for income, but if you were just reinvesting your income, maybe you’re looking for growth? 1 and 2 are income generating investments. You don’t generally buy a REIT for growth, although if you believe rates have peaked and not go higher in the future, Shares of REITs should grow in a falling interest rate environment. If rates go up, shares prices drop. The growth you get in REITs is mostly from dividend reinvestment. Now #3… interesting idea. I’ve had 2 client, one being my wealthiest client, built his wealth by buying car washes, updating them, operate them for a year or so, then selling and he was doubling his initial investment every time. However, he got out of the business because he says the corporate car wash chains have figured out the game and they can operate on much lower profit margins. I also know people that own FedEx (not UPS) routes. They make good money, but work their asses off. Hiring an employee to run your route requires 2 routes, and if you just want to sit on the sideline you’ll need a few routes. Another idea similar to FedEx/UPS is a bread route. I have a client who’s 2 sons own bread routes, and compete against each other in the same area, and both are making a killing. #4… never heard of this but sounds interesting, similar to vending machines. I know with vending machines it’s all about location, location, location. #5 depends on where and type of condo. You probably have more knowledge in RE, but is it a vacation rental? Florida or California? If so, I would stay away from those markets. There are starting to be rumblings within the analyst community that there is going to be a huge RE correction in those markets, and possibly extend to other states, possibly comparable to 2009. The catalyst for this is rising cost of insurance, or just uninsurability all together.

AALen

Business for our national wholesaler has slowed dramatically now that the tariffs have finally kicked in. Truckers and freight forwarders are cold calling for business more than ever. UPS trucks are half empty. But stocks only go up so 🤷🏻

LegalHelpNeeded3

UPS?

NeitherCoast3774

Yup, UPS too. Our warehouse delivery and pickup drivers say its dead out there.

obi2kanobi

That's insane. Sorry you have to deal with this. I wish I could say UPS is better. I had another pkg recently (domestic) that sat in Philly (about an hour away) for 2+ weeks. Packages routinely show up pretty beat up. We pack the shit of our outbound pkgs going to the west coast.

gamjatang111

People down realize Fedex already down bad on the year prior to today, they lost USpostal as a customer and are getting squeezed. Their rival over at UPS isnt having a great year either

subpar321

Amazon is basically the new FedEx/UPS

hypeaze

A UPS truck backing up towards a Tesla robotaxi causes $100 billion damage.

obi2kanobi

Probably held up in customs. I have a $3k pkg shipped UPS from Germany last Wednesday. Should have arrived Friday. Hopefully it'll arrive today. I'll bet US Customs is having a fit with all this tariff nonsense. My recent shipments had very detailed tariff invoices. Like line by line what's on my vendor invoice times two as we are getting hit the flat 10% plus 2.9% regular tariff. All that extra work......

The_Negative-One

UPS is trying to get smaller and dumber, not bigger and smarter.

Big-block427

With even with your pea brain, to insinuate that I’d disrespect this great brand, founded by just deceased Fred Smith, a leader of men and women, and a loyal American businessman and philanthropist, that I’d even mention his name in the same sentence as George Soros, is just baseless and ignorant. FedEx has had operational problems for some time. Too many planes, not enough planes; too many trucks, not enough trucks. And a bloated payroll. Nice earnings report today but the guidance sucked. Many of FedEx’s problems are unique to it; not the same as UPS, DHL, XPO Logistics. This isn’t a tariff issue, but you don’t want to hear that, so I’ll just say G……..D.

casualdadeqms

Logistics companies are a good indicator of what is to come. UPS is also cutting a significant number of routes. They're not folding in entire buildings and sorts just to meet their automation goals.

thatErraticguy

Can’t wait for all the MAGAs living in bumfuck nowhere to stop receiving mail because FedEx and UPS deems those routes “not profitable” lol

TechnicalEar1853

I got a free replacement part for an item I purchased from Canada sent to me via UPS. No declared value as it was, as I said, a free replacement part. Taxes/duties/fees came out to $57. It weighs less than a pound and fits in a bubble mailer. I declined the package. I'm not paying the Trump tariffs. He can suck my asshole.

sfw3015

They will subsidize it by selling off the best parts of the postal service to them and UPS.

KnewTwoDiss

Trump wants to make everything in America. People will by more shit American Made. It ain't gonna come on a shipping container into Amazon's warehouse delivered by their Rivian. It's gonne be shipped by FEDEX and UPS on their shitty trucks with no AC. FDX Calls for earnings.

Ghostrabbit1

Company Update Thursday, 27 February 2025 09:00 AM LOS ANGELES, CA / ACCESS Newswire  / February 27, 2025 / Clean Vision Corporation (OCTQB:CLNV) ("Clean Vision" or the "Company"), an emerging leader in innovative plastic recycling and clean fuel development, is proud to announce that its wholly-owned subsidiary, Clean-Seas West Virginia, (CSWV) has commenced of construction on its innovative Plastic Conversion Network (PCN) project in Belle, West Virginia. This facility will play a crucial role in addressing plastic waste while generating sustainable fuel solutions. The project will initially process 50 tons of plastic feedstock per day, in the renovated 60,000-square-foot facility, with plans to scale operations over time. On site, crews this week started upgrading core infrastructure including power, water, drainage, and environmental health and safety systems, configuring the facility to accommodate pyrolysis reactors and pre-processing equipment essential for producing plastic pyrolysis oil. Off site, vendors are fabricating the reactors, pipes, controls and other ancillary systems and equipment for on-site installation in the coming months. This initiative is made possible with support from the State of West Virginia and UPS Industrial Services, LLC, which serves as the engineering, procurement, and construction (EPC) partner for the project. "Today marks a major milestone in the growth of our company," said Dan Bates, CEO of Clean Vision Corporation. "Breaking ground on the West Virginia facility has been highly anticipated, and we are eager to see this project come to fruition. This progress should be exciting not only for our shareholders and supporters but also for the new employees we will be bringing on in West Virginia." The facility is expected to begin operations in August 2025, advancing Clean-Seas' mission of delivering sustainable clean fuel solutions while contributing to local job creation and economic development. About UPS Industrial Services: UPS Industrial Services is a premier provider of engineering, procurement, and construction services, renowned for delivering high-quality, cost-effective solutions for industrial projects globally. With a strong commitment to safety and excellence, UPS Industrial Services Services is a trusted partner for complex, large-scale initiatives. For more information,

Ghostrabbit1

Everything I said is true. **LOS ANGELES, CA / ACCESSWIRE / November 7, 2024 /** Clean Vision Corporation (OTCQB:CLNV) ("Clean Vision" or the "Company"), an emerging leader in the development of sustainable technologies, is pleased to announce its wholly-owned subsidiary, Clean-Seas West Virginia, Inc. ("Clean-Seas West Virginia") has secured a $15 million bridge loan to finance Clean-Seas West Virginia's clean energy project that is currently being developed in Quincy, West Virginia (the "West Virginia Facility"). This loan, backed by a guarantee from the West Virginia Economic Development Authority and a letter of credit / completion bond issued by UPS Industrial Services ("UPSIS"), will propel our groundbreaking clean energy initiative forward, with construction on the WV Facility currently set to begin in November 2024. The West Virginia Facility will convert plastic feedstock into clean fuel. Phase 1 for the West Virginia Facility is planned to commence operations with capacity for processing 50 tons per day ("TPD") with current plans to expand the West Virginia facility in subsequent phases up to 400 TPD of processing capability. Phase 1 is currently scheduled for commissioning in the third quarter of 2025, marking a major step forward in reducing plastic pollution and creating sustainable fuel solutions in the region. "This funding represents a pivotal moment for Clean-Seas West Virginia and our mission to develop a global network of conversion facilities, with the goal to create a cleaner planet. Our partnership with UPS Industrial Services and the support from the West Virginia Economic Development Authority demonstrate the strong belief in the potential for the West Virginia facility to not only reduce plastic waste and provide clean fuel, but to also create jobs and drive sustainable economic growth for the residents of West Virginia and the region as a whole." Said Dan Bates, CEO of Clean Vision. UPSIS will oversee the engineering, procurement and construction of the West Virginia Facility to ensure its on-time, on-budget construction. "UPSIS is always looking for opportunities to partner with visionary companies like Clean-Vision to develop sustainable technology solutions and leave the planet in better shape than we found it. We believe the West Virginia Facility offers a unique opportunity to turn plastic waste into a valuable resource, and we look forward to working with the Clean Vision team on its project in West Virginia and around the world" said Lonnie Jackson, Senior Projector Director at UPSIS.

noplanman_srslynone

UPS it has up right in the name

IntrepidFarmer5666

UPS calls are free money  Look at them dropping it to 100.8 to try and crush theta  Any stock being held at .8 is being prepped for lift off 

APEX_CAPITAL_81

Been there before... UPS kept dropping the delivery slips at my doorstep but I knew better than to accept that package... Just gotta take that loss like a man champ

educational2400

Sure her trades make sense, like selling tech and buying Clorox and UPS right before COVID hit, totally all Paul studying the market fundamentals. 🙄 See the link in the comments above about members of congress beating the street “again “last year, and ask yourself: how come they can beat Buffet AFTER being elected and not before?

SidFinch99

Even if they're getting money from parents, it sounds like based on your description, that many of those people are making poor choices with their finances. In fact people that fall into money at a young age often do, so their parents giving them money may have just encouraged bad spending habits. As far as nice cars like acmercedes, you can buy entry level used luxury cars at pretty reasonable prices, but the maintenance costs are really high, the depreciation, even when buying used, is significant, and they often cost more to insure. I grew up middle class, and while some of my friends got a little help post graduation, none got anything like you described, except one who was an only child who never went to college and got his GF knocked up. Parents helped them get a house and now as an adult I understand why. If they hadn't done that they would have lived with them and constantly dumped the baby off on them. He eventually got his shit together and now actually makes really good money as a supervisor of some kind for UPS. When I joined Facebook back in 08, I noticed most people who I went to HS with that were homeowners in the HCOL area I went to HS in were only children. They likely had help from parents.

IntrepidFarmer5666

UPS at 99.3 all day 99c down 99p down Every possible option down

traderbusto

Just noticed that today is the day that my $125 UPS leaps call would have expired, worthless

IntrepidFarmer5666

UPS exactly zero  So many stocks pinned to .8 this manipulation is hilarious it’s so god damn obvious  How are half of my stocks exactly zero on the day without manipulating the market!? UPS PEGA GOOGL HON ROST ASHR These are not tiny stocks with low volume ASHR has been exactly at 26.8 for an entire month they only pump a couple stocks at a time then sell them off and pump more the next day options are in the worst state they have even been for buyers you are better off betting on micro caps and biotech lottery tickets  Truly the most corrupt time in history 

IntrepidFarmer5666

Theta crushing: ORCL 212.8 CSCO 65.8 MRVL 74.8 GSAT 23.8 PCG 13.8 IREN 9.8 QUBT 19.8 UPS 99.8 UUUU 5.8 Fucking hilarious how many stocks end with .8 and not moving at all perfectly sitting between strikes just burning theta on both sides 

HumanBirthday1681

UPS and downs

BullShitting-24-7

It would have been simple to take his billions and disappear. Now he could be faking drug tests like a high schooler trying to get a job at UPS

interwebzdotnet

I mean if you want to boycott anyone providing services to the Federal Government, I don't know how you are going to get by. Verizon AT&T, AWS, Microsoft, Pfizer, IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Tmobile, FedEx, UPS, Walmart, CVS... It's a long list of companies that provide services to support the US Government and it's policies m

G4M35

Too good to be true? What's wrong with $UPS, $VZ, and $PFE? They all pay >6% in dividends, I have been looking at them all week, and I can't find any downfall or signs that the divident would/could be cut. 6% dividend **and** growth, why not? Am I overlooking something?

MicroRootAI

The Strike on Iran: A Geopolitical Shock With Market Rattling Potential Israel’s airstrike on Iran is more than just another headline — this could reshape global market dynamics across oil, bonds, equities, and even central bank policy. Let’s break down what could come next: ⸻ 🌍 Oil and the Strait of Hormuz Roughly 20% of global oil passes through the Strait. If Iran retaliates or threatens shipping lanes, $100+ oil isn’t a fantasy — it’s probable. That’s bullish for energy stocks ($XLE), but it’s a nightmare for: • Airlines ($DAL, $UAL) • Shipping & logistics ($FDX, $UPS) • Industrials and manufacturers with tight margins ⸻ 🏦 Banks and the Fed Dilemma Higher oil = higher inflation. Higher inflation = the Fed stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do they: • Hold rates steady and risk recession? • Cut rates and risk runaway inflation? If they misstep, banks could suffer: weaker loan demand, rising defaults, and tighter margins. ⸻ 🇮🇷 Iran-Russia Dynamics & Global Conflict Risk Iran has strategic ties with Russia — but with Russia bogged down in Ukraine, don’t expect full-blown retaliation. Still, Iran won’t just sit idle. After years of assassinations and sabotage, this could escalate fast. And no matter who’s in the White House, Israel has bipartisan U.S. backing. That won’t change. Geopolitics isn’t about emotions. It’s about leverage, energy, and alliances. ⸻ 🔮 The Market’s Future: Flight to Safety or Controlled Chaos? • Expect gold and treasuries to shine if the conflict drags out • Watch for volatility spikes ($VIX) and equity pullbacks • Long term, if escalation is contained, markets will eventually price it in and move on But… If this becomes a multi-front conflict with oil above $110 and persistent inflation, we might be staring down stagflation-lite — slow growth + sticky prices. ⸻ Wild Card: Will Trump get his guy (Scott Bessent?) to lead the Fed and engineer rate cuts to juice the markets before the election? Powell’s days might be numbered if markets buckle and political pressure mounts. ⸻ 👉 What’s your move? Staying in equities? Loading up on oil and defense stocks? Going to cash and treasuries? We’re in uncharted waters again. Let’s hear your strategies.

W_Malinowski

Bet 7k on the panthers, so far so good My carnival and UPS shares are fuk tho

RetardRikk

But...Naaa.... traders pick one of the most turbulant RAPIDS... with UPS and DOWNS... 😂

IntrepidFarmer5666

UPS calls They are pinning it to 100.8  This is the theta crushing indicator before they pump 

fairlyaveragetrader

Of course you have a mountain of ADHD replies, why wouldn't you? 😂 The tariffs are unchanged, it's 10 + 20 + the existing 25 which means 20% of it is in play to come off on the fentanyl narrative If that happens, it's not really a big deal, what is a big deal is they still haven't figured out anything for imports so if you want to buy anything directly from China like I have done many times. There is a minimum fee at least potentially. From people who have imported everything from bicycle rims to bearings. Some people get hit with tariffs and how much the Tariff is even changes. Some people get this $100 minimum, other people have said it's a percentage of the item and other people don't get a bill from the UPS driver at all. So what is the tariff when you're importing your own stuff? I would love to find out

chilldpt

That isn't standard inflation. That is the UPS Store being a franchised subsidiary of UPS, so they are all ran by licensed franchisees and could set prices however they see fit. This particular store was out of their damn minds. Like I said, saw dust and glue. Inflation does not account for a $20+ cardboard box, otherwise Home Depot wouldn't be selling them for $3 and some change. Mind you the shipping boxes should be a little more expensive as they are more rigid, but not anywhere near those prices.

chilldpt

Haha it's wild to step back and think about the things that have raised in price the most for absolutely NO REASON. Like 2 years ago at a UPS store I wanted to just buy a couple of cardboard shipping boxes so I grabbed like 4 different sizes and went up the counter. She scanned them and goes "That will be $140". My jaw fucking dropped lmao. I was like "you're telling me that most people in the world would have to work like 3 hours to afford a cardboard box?" And the worker goes "Yeah I would have to work over 2 hours to afford that box". This is fucking saw dust and glue arranged into a cube. Criminal.

chandu_ck

Automation could free us for higher-value work—but in reality most AI rollouts today are driven by profits, not people. Just look at 2025 so far: 1️⃣ Major firms like Microsoft, Meta, Disney, UPS and more have announced significant layoffs even as they pour billions into AI R&D. 2️⃣ TrueUp’s Layoffs Tracker reports 348 tech companies cutting 83,239 jobs in 2025—that’s roughly 517 layoffs per day 🥲 3️⃣ Microsoft alone axed ~6,000 roles (about 3% of its workforce) just weeks after its largest cuts in years—all while investing heavily in AI platforms and services. 4️⃣ Those cuts boost short-term earnings and satisfy investors—us on r/WallStreetBets—who demand constant growth 😅

Gravbar

I think the thesis that they'll replace shipping vehicles is stronger. Step 1) taxis and short distance transportation. Step 2) replace delivery drivers for companies like UPS and FedEx. Step 3) Replace long distance truckers The potential for massive profit is there, but I agree replacing taxis won't be as big of a deal as some people are hyping it.

LengthObjective2253

UPS FedEx

ShadowLiberal

Waymo's problem is if they can roll it out over a wider geographic area then just a few dozen big cities. There's so many uses of self driving vehicles that are simply impossible to do if it only works in a few dozen geofenced areas. For example Amazon/UPS/etc. can't replace their delivery drivers with self driving vehicles and delivery drones if it only works in a few big cities. The blind can't use a self driving vehicle to go visit the grocery store by themselves if they don't live in the area that any self driving vehicles operate in, etc.

Czyzzle

Should I let these June UPS calls expire worthless or take my $2.50 and reinvest it?

YourSecondFather

Me and my partner earns about $2000 per week. $500 going straight in Google, UNH, UBER, DVN, INTC, ENPH, TGT, UPS and Spy every week.

YourSecondFather

I own UPS too

This-Grape-5149

I didn’t sell but I lost a ton in UPS stock and I agree it’s hard but mentally moving forward I’m trying to not make the same mistake. That’s all you can do

IUseHamsAsShingles

Anybody not in the maga cult knew tge jobs report was fucking fishy. We can all see the layoffs and hiring freezes at our places of work. We all have witnessed early days and lost production. No amount of "hurr durr maga" eclipses the fact that UPS, Fedex, truck manifacturers, and retail are dropping layoffs like there's no tomorrow. And no amount of "this tariffs are so beautiful" or whatever changes the fact we habe low volume at the docks. The smoke is thinning and the mirrors shattering. These inbred regarded fiscal policies are bea ring fruit; too bad bloody dhiarrhea is a fruit.

fairlyaveragetrader

You have a cyclical low on UPS, huge dividend, kind of an open-ended question on the recovery process or when or how long that might take but further losses, probably not likely. The issue you're going to run into with some of these big dividend payers is the slow or lack of share price performance

DoubleFamous5751

Oh damn, UPS getting real cheap

EBIThad

Full port UPS LEAPS. You're not going to see such good prices again for a long time.

Infinite-Truth-6381

1) Trump isn’t using tariff money to pay down our debt. He’s a liar, we know this. 2) inflation is dead. It’s been decreasing dramatically for the past 9 quarters 3) tariffs are likely to be negotiated down, and it’s a one time hit to prices. Not something that will stick around in inflation rates. 4) if Powell waits to see how things shake out, it’s already too late. We can already see from employment data and large companies announcing layoffs (UPS, Abbot, Mack Trucks, Meta, Microsoft, etc). There are cracks in the labor market while inflation has been stomped out. The dual mandate is to keep inflation and employment rates in check, and one of those is suffering right now. It is time to cut.

Rando1ph

I didn't click that link and I'm not going to. The US economy is massive, a 20% (give or take) tax on imports will have an effect, but not the absolute catastrophe the news is having a field day with. I import from Italy for work and looked at a UPS invoice today actually, accounting was all pissed. And I don't know how to works but some were free which thought was funny because it didn't say 0%, it actually said "free" most were 20% and a bunch was 10%. But we marked our stuff up and went about our day. We were absorbing it until literally today. But yeah, this isn't the first tax hike ever, a Tariff is just a tax, 10% sales tax, life goes on. 30% income tax, life goes on. 20% import tax... Well you got the idea. Except China, but they're NOT the good guys in this and frankly with their rampant environmental, labor, and ethical violations, I'm surprised more people aren't on board with weaponized tariffs.

InterstellarReddit

Tariffs are fundamentally a small business problem. While that sounds bad, the data shows that smaller retailers are getting hit hardest because their competitive advantage relies on keeping prices low something they can’t maintain when import costs go up. The reason is financial flexibility. Larger corporations often have the financials to absorb tariff related cost increases, while small businesses operate on thinner margins. Small businesses are likely to be hit the hardest by tariff increases, and many will be forced to pass the additional costs on to customers . Big corporations have two key advantages: they can either raise prices because they’ve built brand loyalty that survives price increases, or they can restructure operations through layoffs and closures to maintain profitability per location. Take Dollar General as a perfect example. The company closed 96 Dollar General stores and 45 Popshelf stores in early 2025, yet plans to open 575 new stores while remodeling over 4,000 current locations . This is exactly what “increasing profit per foot” looks like they’re strategically closing underperforming locations while investing in higher-performing ones. your local mom & pop shop can’t play this same game. They typically operate one or two locations, so they can’t close underperforming stores to boost profitability. They also can’t easily lay off staff etc. The one thing that I see no one talking about, is the revenue increase for UPS. Although UPS is reporting less packages coming in from China, when nobody is realizing is the $30 in fees per package that UPS is charging to import now. So wow yes, you’re importing less packages, shipping prices remain the same and now you get a $30 fee tacked on top. Fee is disguised as paperwork and processing for Tariffs collection.

_hiddenscout

Another really small cap name I bought recently, you might dig, is $ESP. >Espey Mfg. & Electronics Corp., a power electronics design and original equipment manufacturing company, designs, manufactures, and tests electronic equipment primarily for use in military and industrial applications in the United States. Its principal products include power supplies, power converters, filters, power transformers, magnetic components, power distribution equipment, UPS systems, and antennas for use in AC and DC locomotives, shipboard power and radar, airborne power, ground-based radar, and ground mobile power applications. The company also provides various services, such as design and development to specification, build to print, design services, design studies, environmental testing services, metal fabrication, and painting services, as well as development of automatic testing equipment. In addition, it produces individual components, which include inductors, as well as paints, wires, qualifies, and test items; populates printed circuit boards; and fabricates metalwork. 

3boobsarenice

UPS position doa

deltaalternate

Smoking a cig on break and shooting the shit with the UPS guy outside my office. He said his route has been a lot busier the last two weeks. This is the kind of research the bear doesn't get because they're afraid to go outside.

traderbusto

UPS $125 06/20 leaps call also dumb https://preview.redd.it/05n11fu7jp4f1.png?width=1047&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbe609043d12aac3a811fb82e37339714f340492

Fantastic_Joke4645

Not super recent but I bought UPS, MCD, INTC, T, OXY and AAPL in 2009-10 coming out of the recession. The first two were flat except dividends, the next three were awful and Apple was my only winner, the only one I kept and it’s up 1000%.

traderbusto

You ain't lyin. The $125 UPS leaps call I added 13 months ago is now a bargain at $0.01

xSupaFi

UPS is the one tapering volume with Amazon. FedEx had gotten rid of Amazon years ago and just recently signed a contract to take heavy shit for Amazon bc of UPS working toward dropping Amazon and Amazon doesn’t wanna deliver any of their own shit that weighs more than 50 pounds

bensonr2

UPS layoffs Walmart reduced outlook Target cuts annual forecast Microsoft announced layoffs. I could keep going on that's just what I remember reading recently. But keep trusting in your orange god. I'm sure he knows better then every other ceo and expert. It's not like he has a track record of failure in business.

Few-Register-8986

I assume UPS will be sending me back the money they extorted from me with threats of increasing it 9.9% if I didn't comply?

LovesToyCars

So I'll be getting a refund on something I paid $731 tarriff on? I've already gotten back over $400 in the form of a "whoops, we over charged you" from UPS. I want the rest back now, thanks.

WWpinkumbrellaD

Neat..can I get the $135.25 back that just I paid for the said illegal tariff?? It was on an order for a battery and cables that already cost $200 No warning, or estimation provided just a slip on the door from UPS that they were holding my goods hostage until I paid the tariff. This country is a fucking joke…..

Own-Opinion-2494

I had to pay at my door or they wouldn’t deliver product. Now UPS is trying to double charge me. We need a significant tax break

Own-Opinion-2494

I need a tax break for tariffs I’ve had to pay at my door and now UPS is trying to double charge me for

NlNJANEER

I thought UPS was laying off 20k employees bc of tariffs. Even if that’s offset by hiring elsewhere, isn’t that 20k affected that otherwise wouldn’t have been?

Formal-Jerk

Just thinking about how I used to make 8.50 an hour at UPS loading boxes for 5 hours every evening, then wake up at 6am to my day job that made 10 an hour and now I make my weekly paychecks in a day. It feels dirty.

TimelyAd8822

CRM is a hold, UPS went from Strong sell to HOLD in a week, wierd

i-love-freesias

UPS

AccessAccomplished33

But it is not just taxis, it is all logistics. They will expand into amazon delivery, UPS, what about that?

Solid_Priority_7

If they expand out from just food, sure. They can partner with UPS, FEDEX, etc. Delivering packing intercity straight to the door.

Stocky_Platypus

I call BS. I cut down on Amazon spending by 80%. I really doubt that Amazon isnt getting hit especially with UPS layoffs due to demand drops from Amazon. This seems like them trying to kiss Trump ass and use the Walmart debacle to their advantage.

Fantastic_Joke4645

I have had terrible returns with “safe” stocks. MCD, UPS, ATT, INTL… awful choices. I only own VTI now.

fairlyaveragetrader

It's normally harder to own individual stocks, at least mentally. With an individual company you have individual risk. With an index fund, you just play probabilities. So with any given company, if they get in trouble and a lot of them do. I mean big companies, look at the chart of Intel or UPS or Nike. Look at those falls from the top. Lots of people held those all the way down and now they think. Okay is the business going to recover. all the stress and thinking you go through. We could even try to handicap these and figure out which one would be the most likely to recover. My bet would be on UPS, but I could be wrong and that's the thing. With any individual company you aren't 100% sure what the future is going to be If you just cost average the s&p 500 and get aggressive buying more on tips. You now have put yourself in a position about performance. So just looking at statistics about 1 in 20 professional traders can beat the s&p 500 on a 20-year run. That's not counting drawdowns so there could be more volatility, it could just be the guy that gets a couple of big bets right. But still 1 in 20. All a regular person has to do to beat the s&p 500 is cost average dips. You add money at 5%, add more money at 10%, start selling things you don't need to buy at 20%. If you do that over the course of your life it puts you in that 5% bracket. You're one of the people that beat the s&p 500 Why overcomplicate things?

aytikvjo

yeah you're not getting it It doesn't matter what the computer algorithm decides or says happened when you need a human to input the data or consume it actually do the work. Storing shares on the blockchain isn't going to prevent companies from defrauding their stakeholders. That's the point. You can't define every possible variation of fraud that exists or will exist in the future in code. Case in point: Just because you buy a product from amazon that is traceable through a sequence of N proof-of-supply-chain blockchains validating the life of the thing from raw material to finished good to the UPS driver handing it to you is irrelevant when the guy packing your shipment puts a rock in the box instead of the product and just takes the thing home for themselves. Every cryptographically secured step in the process is going to say you got your bona-fide product but the reality is that you won't have it and there will be nothing you can do about it because you have no proof you didn't get it. Software can't hold that person accountable but human enforced laws, rules, and regulations can. Legal frameworks are deliberately vague and uncertain in ways that computer programs are not and can not be. This is a feature, not a bug. The entirety of the crypto sphere really does boil down to replacing low-cost efficient systems with expensive inefficient ones that claim to solve problems we don't have and ignore the problems we do have.

Weareweare2677

What is going on with UPS - lack of amazon orders, massive loss of stock price, concerns that they will not fulfill dividends? Calls. I bought some stock today hoping to catch this falling knife. I really can't see this company failing and think increased prices and reduced amazon orders is priced in right now.

traderbusto

in early June 2024, I put a $125 UPS 6/20eaps on my watchlist, it was $190.80. Now it's $0.04 

OSRSkarma

“Im shorting the fuck out of UPS today” So…. Show your play, not that hard.

OSRSkarma

Why would i work for UPS. What does it being america have anything to do with anything. If you make a play/bet. Post it. This is not talkaboutbets

OSRSkarma

Why would i work for UPS. What does it being america have anything to do with anything. If you make a play/bet. Post it. This is not talkaboutbets

eth-max

Do you work for UPS or something? I thought this was America

AppropriateGoat7039

'My brother delivers for UPS. He said that they have been intermittently laying drivers off and packages have dropped significantly since the tariffs and de minimis rules went into effect. I think you may be on to something. UPS is already down so much so I'm a little hesitant to short. I wish you luck though!

eth-max

The only thing shorter than my foresight is today’s position in UPS

powench000

I guess he’s changed his mind on this….. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-constitutional-rural-wifi-internet-b2748208.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKZ3EtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHoMBASNPdGLLkuOOquJII3UPS0B4RIdqwAaQ_bLY9cqIGriWlkBp1UNpD-Xm_aem_5pLEzWMAOLOkGK9mZAs90A#Echobox=1746915366

possible-penguin

I think that would be one wise choice for long term. If you put most of your money there and then keep some to speculate on individual stocks you can have a safety net and get to play a little. It just depends what you want to do. Right now I have a ton of SCHG, a lesser amount of SCHD, and then smaller amounts (total smaller than in my ETFs) in GOOG, TSM, UPS, PFE, PEP, and AMD. The stocks I manage more closely and am more likely to take profits on, the ETFs I pretty much leave alone and buy more when I can.

sloanemonroe

There is nothing worse than a UPS package that was supposed to be delivered but then for some fucked up reason they couldn’t deliver it and then they want you to go to their fucking facility to pick it up. Fuck no

brookelyndodger

I’m curious why Fed Ex and UPS aren’t throwing money hand over fist at this. Passenger planes w/o a pilot seems like they are still decades away whereas cargo planes, maybe not?

Cool_Two906

Tesla and palantir have been huge chunks on my portfolio so I get that. Not so sure about HIMS. I actually use them and I thought the customer service was horrible. I would think the Amazon for drug distribution would be.... Amazon! They have their own pharmacy now and not sure what competitive advantage hims would have versus a juggernaut like Amazon with Godlike pricing power and essentially their own in-house UPS.

Rivercitybruin

AAPL, MSFT etc are not really the economy... Value stocks much more so.. Maybe look at FDX and UPS... Or Nordstrom if still a stock. macy's

fairlyaveragetrader

You know it's really not that unusual. It's a headline right now but if we look at Nike or Intel or UPS coming there are a lot of names that we all know and use that have been cut in half So here's the challenge, which one is going to recover and begin growing again, which ones are the value traps? Because I don't really see losing much money on Intel or UPS. They are both bottomed out unless somehow business deteriorates further and with ups, we all know what drives that. With Intel, you start getting into what it's Worth to purchase them, like what they could be bought out for with all the equipment they own. But is either one going to beat the s&p 500? See that's the tricky partand something any unh buyer needs to consider. If you have an account large enough to realistically run a full lot, it could be an interesting covered call play

-Akisaki

UPS to be renamed as DOWNs

narrowant341

Waiting like a puppy at the door for a UPS package that was supposed to delivered overnight 5 days ago.  Puts on UPS. 

marcus55

Most people will tell you to sell at a loss. In my opinion that is just the literal worst thing you can do you will constantly be thinking about the gains you have to make up to be break-even and will never be content. Unless you actually need the money just stick with losses unless the stock is legitimately never going to recover. IN the case of UNH, Paypal and UPS there is no reason why these will not progress back up with time even if thats just matching inflation. If you are feasibly down like 5% then maybe sell out at a loss but like a 30,40% loss? If you sold and bought S&P you are still going to have to make a 60% ish gain. Is S&P 500 going to get u a 60% gain? no lmao I would rather wait 2-3 years in the stock than 6 years worth of S&P. The best thing to do is invest FUTURE income into S&P 500 and stick with current investments until the day you can sell at break even. I've already said above none of these stocks are screwed except for Pinterest because it sounds like you bought at 2021 silly level and I don't think it can ever get back there without a 10 year wait