VSS

EmbarrassedPart1256

For real, gotta skim those profits into growth stocks at least though, compound the gains a little. I’m thinking $FNDC, $ISVL, $VSS for solid small cap ETFs & then parking profits in some penny stocks as well. \~80-90% of the calls I made a week ago had solid moves & I either sold way early because I wanted the cash or sold before. Gotta commit to letting them cook.

Only_Constant_8305

I copy-pasted it into grok and only replaced ChatGPT with grok, here the answer: **🚀 SPCE THESIS: The Virgin Galactic MOASS Play – Space Tourism is the Ultimate Squeeze Setup (Not Financial Advice, Just Copypasta Fuel)** **Listen up, apes.** You've been bagholding this "crap company" through the dilution hell, the endless delays, and the Branson hype cycles that never quite delivered. But just like the GME crew saw the shorts trapped in a dying retail dinosaur, **SPCE has the ingredients for a legendary turnaround rocket ride.** This isn't about fundamentals grinding out profits tomorrow. This is about narrative, scarcity, retail FOMO, and the space economy catching fire. # Why SPCE is Primed (The "DD" Part) * **Delta Class Spaceships = The Catalyst That Changes Everything.** They're transitioning from prototype (Unity) to production mode. Ground testing is underway, flight testing targeted for Q3 2026, commercial flights late 2026. Each Delta ship is designed for **6 passengers** (vs 4 before), **much higher flight cadence** (multiple per week potential), and way better economics. This isn't sci-fi – it's moving into the hangar and assembly phase. * **Space is the New Meme Sector.** With SpaceX IPO buzz, asteroid mining talk, tourism demand from billionaires and high-net-worth thrill-seekers, and governments pushing commercial space, **Virgin Galactic is the pure-play retail-accessible ticket to "I went to space" experiences.** $450k-$750k per seat? Rich people treat that like buying a yacht. Backlog + new demand = revenue ramp when they actually fly consistently. * **Short Interest & Volatility History = Squeeze Fuel.** SPCE has been a classic short favorite for years because of cash burn and execution risk. Recent rallies (250%+ in May before the dilution rug) showed what happens when retail piles in. A successful test flight or big partnership announcement could ignite another gamma squeeze. Shorts hate uncertainty – and space is full of it until it works. * **Recent Earnings Show Burn is Slowing.** Q1 2026 showed narrowed losses, progress on assembly, and reaffirmed timelines. They're burning less cash as they shift to production. Not profitable yet, but survival mode improving. **The Bull Case MOON Math (Rough & Hypey):** If they hit even 50-100 flights a year at high utilization with the Delta fleet, revenue scales fast. Market cap is still tiny for a company with Branson's brand, FAA licenses, and actual hardware flying. Compare to other space plays – this could 5-10x on execution alone if sentiment flips. Add short covering and Reddit momentum? **We ride the VSS to Valhalla.** # Risks (Because I'm Not a Delusional Shill) Dilution is real – they keep issuing shares to stay alive. Execution risk is massive (delays have killed hype before). Competition from Blue Origin, SpaceX suborbital, etc. Cash runway matters. This is a **high-risk speculative bet**, not a sure thing. You've been warned. **But here's the GME-style truth:** The company isn't going bankrupt tomorrow, timelines are actually progressing for once, and space tourism is an inevitable luxury market. The float gets manipulated, retail gets shaken out, then **BOOM** – one good news cycle and the shorts are toast. **Diamond hands, space cadets.** Hold through the volatility. Buy the dip if you believe in human expansion beyond Earth. When the first Delta commercial flight happens with paying customers waving from space, the narrative writes itself. **TL;DR: SPCE to the fucking moon. Not because it's perfect. Because the setup rhymes with every other squeezed story you've seen. LFG.** *(Seriously, this is for entertainment and your Reddit experiment. Do your own research, this stock is volatile as hell. Not advice.)*

geobomb

According to stockstotrade.com: Virgin Galactic Holdings, Inc. stocks have been trading up by 14.65 percent amid heightened optimism over upcoming commercial spaceflights. Key Takeaways SPCE is ripping higher after VSS Unity resumed glide flights at Spaceport America, giving traders fresh confirmation that Virgin Galactic’s test campaign is back in motion. Jefferies stuck with its Buy rating on SPCE, backing a $5 price target and highlighting reopened ticket sales at $750,000 per seat and a growing backlog. Recent Q1 updates from Virgin Galactic show heavy losses but meaningful cost cuts, narrower EPS loss, and firm guidance for Q3 2026 aerial tests and Q4 2026 commercial launch. Virgin Galactic is selling capacity for 50 future flights while targeting next‑generation ships capable of twice‑weekly missions and 500+ lifetimes, aiming for true scale if it reaches commercial operations. END But the real reason is **vibes**

wordaroundthebush

sold half before the dip, then remembered I have a SPCE shirt (yes, VSS Unity merch) in the mail coming so I put it back after the drop. Already gaining again XD

Postmodern_Pastiche

Glad to hear your portfolio of space stocks is doing well. I’ve got a position of 200 shares of RKLB @ a cost basis of $84, so I’m definitely rooting along with you for the space sector. My largest gains this year come from semis, with 200 shares of MU @$399 being my biggest winner. I say this not as a flex, but to serve as an example of being someone who is considerate in how they invest. The snark in my Wendy’s comment was in response to what I felt was a dismissive attitude directed at retail traders trying to make some money. While there is an element of mistaken ticker identity that has helped drive up price of SPCE, Virgin Galactic also dropped a tangible catalyst: they announced that VSS Unity returned to flight operations for glide flights, de-risking their upcoming next-gen spaceship test program slated for Q3. This coupled a the rising tide for all space stocks from the June 12th IPO presents what I feel is a legitimate, albeit risky, strategy to make some good profits.

Markovvy

They have two aircraft currently operational VSS Unity and VMS Eve. They are currently training the crew and preparing for 125 flights a year.

Difficult_Letter_607

I am buying $SPCE tomorrow and in the next week, no natter the price. They are sharing some news and made VSS Unity to space yesterday. That is awesome news and the proof that they are going AGAIN to space this year. Also the SpaceX IPO will make $SPCE grow a bit, but that is just the beggining

BeginningEar8070

i think i see it this way at this moment after doind some researches past few months: **Energy efficiency:** Ericsson → NEC → Nokia **Sovereignty:** NEC → Ericsson → Nokia **Commercial momentum 2026:** Nokia → Ericsson → NEC **Investment timing:** NEC → Nokia → Ericsson indirect : jx advanced metals, indra(spain), leonardo(italy), thales (france) Im investor only since the end of dezember, and hold NEC and Nokia in portofolio. I would like to have jx advanced metals but dont have budget xD orginally invested in Indra and leonardo for cybersecurity and defence and to increase my eu holdings, it is related to the topic indirectly. # some most relevant information that lead me to the above summary: there are 2 standards that are not exclusive that are being developed and relevant to 6g: 3GPP (Nokia/Ericsson) → IOWN (NEC/NTT) since 5g to 6g is a technology leap from electroninc to opto electronic there are opportunities from new supply chains i think nokia has still best entry now, but NEC is more appealing in general and longer term to me. I did some comparisons before, and from main focus (not the only solution they develop) nokia is more performance focused and partnering with nvidia which is looking to imprison users in their ecosystem- it is exposed to more power consumption, ericsson can work with nvidia but focuses more on open approach and cpu hardware which is more efficient- so depending on what investors think is more important performance vs efficiency the stock can move in favor of one or the other accordingly i think. obviously nvidia optimises and aims for more efficient hardware with time. as for NEC it gives impression of a completely different solution which offers a whole ecosystem around it and possibilities with way better efficiency and latency- NEC also appears to be ahead with tests and implementations. 6G privacy by design and sovereignity is a variable that customers might be looking for and will be expressed in customer and/or investor decisions. governments and enterprises that dont want US cloud infrastructure inside their 6G networks might pay a premium for NEC/NTT. its worth noting that nokia drives nvidia hype marketing and is exposed the most to the news and big articles. I noticed NEC is way more difficult to find in articles and news, but you are more likely to find actual numbers that would be important for any comparison. there are some tests to highlights which can be compared to tests that nokia with nvidia does and were presented on recent event. The February 2026 DOCOMO/NTT demonstration — they showed network-controlled AI inference where the 5G core network itself decides in real-time which GPU resource handles which inference task, routing through IOWN APN photonic connections with minimal delay. This is architecturally a generation ahead of Nokia's model where the edge chip does everything locally.​ And February 25: University of Tokyo, NTT and NEC successfully integrated AI agents for 6G/IOWN platforms covering streaming semantic communication, AI-oriented media control and In-Network Computing simultaneously. This is the most advanced AI-native network architecture currently demonstrated anywhere in the world — not a reference architecture, an actual working integration. March 11, NEC announced Physical AI that anticipates human movement and psychological states — reducing workplace stress through sensor networks that predict human behaviour before incidents occur. This is the VSS blueprint concept but with a completely different design philosophy: instead of recording events and summarising them, NEC's system predicts and prevents events before they happen.​ indirect investment jx advanced metals i havent looked into the specifics yet but EU is also investing into relevant programms that are directly or indirectly involved in 6g investment strategies- especialy France GAIA-X, EuroStack - EU SNS JU 6G programme. > The EU 6G Sovereign Programme — €900m+ Already Committed The broader European context is the SNS JU (Smart Networks and Services Joint Undertaking) — the EU's formal 6G sovereignty programme: €630m already deployed since 2021 across 100 projects €270m more confirmed for 2026–2027 €230m flagship call planned for 2027 specifically for pre-commercial 6G validation 1,000+ contributions to global 3GPP standardisation from EU-backed projectsMWC 2026 (March 4) confirmed Europe's explicit goal: "We don't want to follow, we want to lead 6G" as a result there are companies that are more or less direct investment opportunities: Indra (Spain), Leonardo (Italy), Thales (France), Airbus Defence — have a seat at the table when 6G network architecture is finalised. Im investor only since the end of dezember, and hold NEC and Nokia in portofolio. I would like to have jx advanced metals but dont have budget xD orginally invested in Indra and leonardo for cybersecurity and defence and to increase my eu holdings, it is related to the topic indirectly.

BeginningEar8070

the limited ticket will be selling off even faster now and crashing sites :D the Agents for wallets I see only as a tool for easy monetisation of customers who like to do online shopping. the mroe interesting agentic use is in fabrics VSS or some smart cities that are successfuly being tested by nokia and NEC/NTT

dollar_llamas

33, wife is 36. 100% equities About 50/50 us and ex Heavy on Brk.b, EM and VSS.

MONGSTRADAMUS

before avdv and disv came out there wasn't an option I think DGS/DLS maybe were the only options and I wasn't really enamored with either of those choices. Held VSS till AVUV came out. I held viov for a while , but I don't think it was valuey enough for my tastes. It turned out my assumption was correct as AVUV has beaten it by over 5% per year since inception almost six years ago.

MONGSTRADAMUS

I think It was ben felix the first person that got me interested in scv, I tried VBR first then viov and then settled on AVUV. There wasn't really an exus small cap value option when I first started I think there was VSS , which was just small cap .

irishtwinsons

Everyone mentions VXUS, but I also like to add a bit extra of the small-caps too. VSS, though a smaller part of my portfolio, has done really well for me.

MONGSTRADAMUS

I converted to avuv right around the time that avantis released those etfs, before I was using VBR and VIOV for us scv. First went with vbr than viov than eventually avuv. I was using VSS for ex us small caps wasn't enamored with the exus small cap value options. Avuv in particular has been a bit rough as its underperformed vti, but you have to believe in scv in the long run that it will turn around. I know there will be periods that its going to underperform.

dollar_llamas

VWO, VSS, Brk.B

IronyElSupremo

Long-term having US and non US stocks is less volatile, and as some pointed out, many of these big companies are multinational to various extents. Small stocks are more representative of local conditions, but being small very few will actually move the needle. Vanguard’s VEU (with less non-U.S. small stocks/more non-U.S large stocks) slightly outperforms VXUS most years. US and developed small cap stocks tend to profit during an early bull market while some of the more brainy fund families have been trying to figure out why emerging mkt small caps just sit there? Looking at some of these etfs trying to squeeze performance from EM small cap, I’m just not seeing hardly any difference from VSS. So maybe low expense VSS when non-US tank, build a position vs VEU (or the similar iShares IXUS which I have), .. and then sell at the start of the next non-US bull mkt?

PutItOnTheRitz

VXUS does give you broad international exposure, but it’s definitely tilted toward large caps. VSS complements it well if you’re looking for purer diversification. Small-cap international stocks tend to have more local revenue sources and aren’t as influenced by U.S. market cycles. If you want to lean into that “true” foreign market exposure Bernstein talks about, adding VSS makes a lot of sense. I think the combo of VXUS + VSS strikes a nice balance between breadth and purity.

therealjerseytom

The existence of ETF's doesn't change anything. Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you pull up an asset correlation too, like this one... https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/asset-correlations ...and put in VOO, VXUS, and VSS, you'll find that VXUS and VSS are highly correlated to each other, and they both have similar correlation to VOO. So VSS doesn't necessarily get you anything over VXUS from that perspective.

OrangeTallion

Really? I was looking at the vanguard fund pages for VB and VSS and I could not find the holdings for the life of me. If you could show me where they are I would love to know

IronyElSupremo

What started as a value move from the US to Europe last year gained momentum as cybersecurity, their own home bias, etc. became added concerns. Modern Europe, however, favors its own large caps to fund social spending, so I’m mostly in their large cap/mid cap “luxury” export space (w/just a token amount in their small caps .. though that’s the same for me worldwide IJR + VSS). Looking at companies like SAP (DE) being in demand, though it’ll likely be a decade or 2 before Europe can be completely independent of US Big Tech. European pharmaceuticals are probably going to be another bright spot and of course luxury exports. Big thing may be EU banks if they decide to deregulate globally.

Empty-Run-657

> Do you really think manufacturers are putting sensors on the axles or something? Yes? Most cars use a VSS for the speedometer and odometer.

SmallCapsOnly

I’ve been doing similar, moving from VOO/VT/QQQM to more towards ESGD/VT/VSS for more international exposure.

Old_Shoe5167

Although you already know the main US ones, VTI (total US market) is another popular US choice (you'd probably just want one of VTI/VOO/QQQ as the top holdings just repeat). After having one US ETF you'd like to stick to, the obvious choice is going world minus US. A popular one here is VXUS. It includes Europe as well as Emerging Markets so you don't need to buy that separately. With say VOO/VTI and VXUS you're pretty much good to go. After that, it really is up to personal preference and opinions. Some may say REIT (real estate), others may say commodities, some like to stick with stocks but look into small cap (VB/VSS for US/ex-US small cap etfs). Here's a good read with some sample allocations [https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Lazy\_portfolios](https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Lazy_portfolios) . Since you're only 19, I'd ignore bonds completely and start adding them later down the line, maybe in your 30s or 40s.

NoPomegranate451

As you indicate VT is very heavily US focused. Sticking with Vanguard ETFs I'd look at VXUS, VSS, and VWO. If you wanted bond exposure they offer BNDX and VWOB. There are also a ton of single county ETFs from various sponsors so you could spread out even further if you want to.

Droo99

If I recall correctly it makes sense to buy ex-US funds in taxable accounts to make the foreign tax credit less of a mess. I own VEU and VWO and um VSS I think which are examples like that

HandDownManDown11

I have a ROTH and a brokerage through Fidelity each with largely the same asset allocation of ETFs. My time horizon is still fairly long - at least 20 to 25 years. I'm determining whether I need to rebalance my existing allocations and/or get rid of or add ETFs. Any insight and recommendations are appreciated. I recognize that VOO, SCHG, and VGT may have significant overlap but I wanted to target more growth and tech stocks. 45% - VOO (S&P500) 15% - SCHG (US Large Cap Growth) 15% - VGT (US Technology) 5% - IJH (US Mid/Small Cap Blend) 5% - SPDW (International Developed Large Cap) 5% - VSS (International Developed Mid Cap) 5% - SPEM (Emerging Markets) 5% - GLDM (Gold)

curiousthinker621

You may want to consider a sprinkle of VSS in your portfolio. It's basically a small cap international fund. Nothing wrong with having VEA in a slice and dice portfolio.

irishtwinsons

I use VXUS for large-caps and VSS for small-caps.

inthegrove_

I don't think it's a bad move to consolidate a little. Would get rid of the VGSH - no need for it here. I'd put that in VOO myself. Maybe rolling VSS into VXUS makes sense too. VXUS has some exposure to mid and small cap companies to begin with. VXUS has also been a better performer over 3, 5, and 10Y. Or maybe not the whole position... just a piece of it. That said, I think 20% int'l is fine.

Historical_Low4458

Personally, I would put the VSS into VXUX, and once VSGH turned positive, then I would probably put that money into VOO.

curiousthinker621

VXUS is what I would recommend. As a slice and dice investor, I personally use a combination of VEA, VSS, and VWO, but I truly believe this is too complicated for most investors.Most people would be better off just putting all of their international exposure into VXUS. The problem I have with FZLIX, is that you will always be stuck with Fidelity, which could be an issue in a taxable account.

AUTIGERS2121

VIOV VSS small cap value

sexlexia_survivor

Thanks. I was actually thinking of doing VTI plus VXUS +VSS (.05) because I would pay less in expense fees in VTI (.03), which is where the majority of my money would go vs VT which is .07.

sexlexia_survivor

Thanks, I'm in a pretty high tax bracket and live in CA. I was looking at VCLT and BONDX (international bonds) as well as some CA specific municpals. I liked VB as well, and have it on my list as well as VO for mid cap. For international I am actually currently invested in EMXC (good returns so far!), but was trying to keep it in Vangaurd so I was looking at VXUS as well as VSS.

JlIlK

If you aren't in the top tax bracket you don't need munis. I would do VT and VCLT ( VCIT if you think inflation is a longer term problem ) I would bump up small caps VB and for international exposure I would use EMXC, VYMI and/or VSS

JlIlK

I hold a lot of IJR, VB and VSS.

JlIlK

Me personally, with the SP coming off a huge run, sitting at 25x earnings. I'd do 60% VT, 20% VB, 10% VSS, 10% EMXC Don't sleep on fixed income though. Mixing VCLT, USHY and EDV can yield 7.5%, and keep your powder dry in a correction if the Fed has to force rates back to zero.

JlIlK

Small caps have outperformed large caps historically. I like VB for US, and VSS for global

McKoijion

Slightly lower expense ratio, slightly lower bid-ask spreads, slightly more holdings. It’s the absolute cheapest combo that I’ve come across at all brokerages. The only exception is at Fidelity in a tax advantaged account. There you want 60% FZROX, 36%% FZILX, and 4% VSS. You’d still want VTI, VEA, and VWO in a taxable Fidelity account though because they’re more tax efficient. Holding VTI, VEA, and VWO in a Robinhood IRA is the absolute cheapest because of their 1% IRA transfer match. That 1% match is much larger than the amount you’d save using Fidelity’s Zero Funds instead of Vanguard ETFs.

MONGSTRADAMUS

SP500 I guess has outperformed total market recently may be the reasoning , but I rather have diversification of fskax or fzrox for me personally. The typical boglehead porftolio is FSKAX/FZROX for US, FTIHX for international , and fxnax for bonds, but you don't want bonds so probably not important. There is FZILX for international but its a large cap only so you would need to supplement with something like VSS.

bearhunter429

>Virgin Galactic (NYSE:SPCE) took tourists to the very edge of space on Thursday with a rocket ship ride to about 55 miles high after the launch of VSS Eve and VSS Unity from Spaceport America, a private launch facility located in New Mexico. LMAO 🤌

TheTelegraph

**From Matthew Field for the Telegraph:** Dropping from under its mothership, the tiny silhouette of VSS Unity fell for a few seconds before its rocket engines kicked in, boosting the spaceship to three times the speed of sound. Within minutes, it was on the very edge of earth’s atmosphere. “We have reached space,” Virgin Galactic, the company behind the rocket, declared. May’s successful test mission, Unity 25, which carried six staff and crew to 54 miles above the earth, had less of the fanfare that accompanied Sir Richard Branson’s last launch, almost two years ago. The flight was not live streamed or broadcast by Virgin, although space enthusiasts filmed the mission from down on earth. Yet the launch was a critical final test for the billionaire’s company as it returned to space at last. In 2021, the British entrepreneur made history and fulfilled his dream of reaching space aboard his company’s spacecraft, beating rival Jeff Bezos and his company Blue Origin by mere days. But that mission was followed by an investigation by US authorities after it emerged the rocket had veered slightly off course. The company has also spent the past 23 months making costly alterations to its craft and endured a share price collapse. This week, as early as Tuesday, Virgin Galactic will – barring any last-minute hitches – begin commercial space launches with its Galactic 01 mission in what chief executive Michael Colglazier described as the “next exciting chapter” for the company. Virgin Galactic will start taking tourists and scientists miles above earth, with its first launch carrying a trio of Italian Air Force researchers. Hundreds of prospective “astronauts” have already agreed to pay $450,000 (£354,000) for the rare privilege of five minutes of weightlessness. The rockets will depart the company’s sleek hanger – Spaceport America – in the New Mexico desert, just south of the unusually named city of Truth of Consequences. It has been a long wait for Sir Richard, now 72. The commercial rocket venture has been almost two decades in the making after multiple setbacks, disasters and tragedies. Success would banish memories of the failure of the billionaire’s other space venture, Virgin Orbit, after it collapsed earlier this year. The independent satellite launch company, majority owned by Virgin Group, spent more than $1bn in an effort to commercialise its technology, before running out of money and being sold for parts to rivals in a bankruptcy process. The genesis of Virgin Galactic came following a meeting between Sir Richard and Buzz Aldrin in 1995 in Marrakech, says Will Whitehorn, the company’s former president. By that time, Sir Richard was already a corporate daredevil who had undertaken several record-breaking high-altitude balloon trips. The meeting inspired Sir Richard to consider a space company in earnest, using a reusable plane to reach the edges of the atmosphere. “In the 1950s, the US launched space planes from under B-52s – the X-15,” says Whitehorn. **Read the full article:** [**https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/26/sir-richard-branson-poised-space-tourism-virgin-galactic/**](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/06/26/sir-richard-branson-poised-space-tourism-virgin-galactic/)

designatedtruth

how much percentage would you advise on putting to VB / VSS ? ​ I currently have 30% VTI, 20% QQQM , rest are in dividend stocks like PEP, KO, MCD, PG, JNJ, T, IBM etc.. I'm 31 year old with an income of 120k. My wife earns around 40k / year. Can you please rate my portfolio ?

P4ULUS

VT is a good core position. You can also add more small cap and international exposure through VSS, VWO, and VB.

Flxtcha

Virgin galactic will fly VSS Unity im loading up

P4ULUS

VT 30%, VWO 15%, VSS 10%, VB 10%, VOO 10%, BND 15%, BNDX 10% CD advocates lack a basic understanding of real vs nominal returns. CDs almost always lose money vs inflation.

P4ULUS

You might consider adding broader market small cap indices like VB or VSS

P4ULUS

VOO, VWO, VT, BND, BNDX, VSS, VBR. Don’t remember the exact percentages but I try to maintain 45% US stock, 30% Foreign stock, 25% bonds and 50% large cap, 25% mid cap and 25% small cap.

SkyShuttle

There's a MEME stock play coming up very soon with SPCE VSS Unity space flight is scheduled for April First time going to space in 2 years Potential big short squeeze here around this event Good entry today after yesterday's sell-off if you can grab some cheap shares or April calls Better than GME imho

StephenElliott

https://www.metacritic.com/tv/branson/season-1/episode-4-space-1382754 VMS Unity (the ship) is complete and left the workshop in October VSS Eve (the launcher) is expected to be completed and an announcement any week now Test flights soon, commercial flights Q2 2023 https://www.space.com/virgin-galactic-first-commercial-flight-delay-spring-2023#:~:text=The%20delay%20is%20'due%20to,'&text=Virgin%20Galactic%20is%20pushing%20its,back%20by%20another%20three%20months.

BuffMaltese

Also, bought 50k VSS, 27.5k UPRO, 22.5k TMF today, and also a few NFLX and AFRM calls. Come at me.

Minions89

My PortfolioVEA - 6% VWO - 6% VYMI - 6% SCHD - 2% VOO - 14% SPYV - 14% FREL - 10% VSS - 6% AVDV - 6% IJR - 14% AVUV - 14%

vbgdt

Why not VSS for international small caps and cheaper MER? I realize it's broader than just "value" tilt, but the majority of international small caps are relatively speaking in the "value" category anyway.

VisualMod

>We now (once again) go live to the BOJ: https://t.co/9Mvcew7VSS ^IGSquawk ^[@IGSquawk](http://twitter.com/IGSquawk) ^at ^2022-10-03 ^00:13:59 ^EDT-0400

J9AC9K

I've been thinking the same thing. People often buy VXUS as easy diversification (the Boglehead strategy), but as you say bad markets weigh it down. There are a few alternative strategies you could pursue: * You could buy ex-US small caps instead. IIRC they have lower correlation with VTI (so more diversification) and out-perform VXUS. Popular options are VSS or AVDV. Downside: higher expense ratio and unclear whether they will continue to outperform VXUS in the future. * You could buy individual markets. INDA for India for example. This way you can invest in markets you think will grow and avoid markets you think will not. Others like to weigh towards developed markets (VEA) or emerging markets (VWO, or EMXC if you want to exclude China). * Finally, some investors will take the risk of buying individual companies, like Alibaba, and forget about international index investing I'll venture to say that most of the investors here don't think about international allocation too much because the US market is largely seen as the most profitable and so they just put some money into VXUS for "diversification". Historically, international did better than US during 2000-2010 and 1970s; it's possible international will outperform US in the future, but this outperformance might be concentrated in a particular market (like Japan during the 70s and 80s) and so you'll have to hope you're correctly guessing what this market will be.

HoneyBadger552

sold other losers, VOX and VSS. time to buy the bbby dip

10xwannabe

Vanguard total international etf is: VXUS. TBH, if I was going to do it with 75% U.S. TSM I would actually do the other 25% with VSS or VWO. VSS is a total international mid/ small cap and the VWO is a large cap emerging fund. Either will give you more diversification then adding VXUS. VSS give you mid/ small exposure to an otherwise large cap heavy VTSAX which in theory should give you more exposure to local economy of these countries vs. their large cap cousins. VWO would give you more currency diversification then international developed since the latter has so much Europe which, of course, has a united currency (Euro) then it did in the past. Either of the 2 above would take a bit of courage to hold since it not the "norm", but do make sense in a diversification sense. So if that is an issue just play it save and go VXUS.

J9AC9K

Given the lackluster performance of VXUS, does anyone have an alternative international allocation strategy? Buying small-cap value (VSS or AVDV)? Betting on particular nations? Etc.

paulc19802

Tradingview is probably the best but limited to 3 indicators for free (not including volume so 4 including it). 3 is usually enough for most people and there's plenty of single indicators that combine multiple indicators (VSS being my favourite) that only count as 1 indicator. Webull also has free charting on its website. If you only want what it offers it has no limits. But tradingview is far more powerful with many community created indicators. I actually use both. Tradingview is where my main TA strategy is but as that uses heikin ashi candles I also use Webull with 13,48,200 EMAs and standard candles so I can see actual price trends easier without having to mess around with changing Tradingview. You can pay for more indicators on Tradingview but once you're used to everything it offers its really not necessary.

_Jack_Grey_

Thoughts on SPCE? There's a test spaceflight with the VSS Unity expected in Q4 2022, and commercial services expected in Q1 2023. They've gone 0 to 100 real quick in the past with big events so I have a few $25 calls for late January. Cheap right now so just going all in

Positive_Rip_3423

I recommend also getting international exposure. But stay with the idea low cost index funds. Vanguard has two products: VXUS -- larger foreign companies VSS -- small-cap foreign companies

Ajfennewald

Don't tilt to growth unless you have some strong reason for doing so. Growth doesn't mean that the funds will have better performance. It simply refers to the half of the stock market with higher earnings and revenue growth and also higher valuations. Just do something like 60% VTI 40% VXUS. If you want to overweigh smaller companies you can do that with VB (domestic) and VSS (international). But I would advise being able to write a few paragraphs on why you are doing that before you even consider it.

Dknapp26

VOO, VOOG and a small percentage of VSS

Joey-tv-show-season2

True. Big announcement soon that they leasing a facility to mass produce the Delta class spaceship which is based on VSS Imagine. IMO

MetaphoricalMouse

so you think i should just stay the course? i m just looking for a second opinion. VSS wasn’t a great earner prior but i got in to diversify outside the US. didnt know much about ETFs then and now realize there’s far better ones

MetaphoricalMouse

i have a chunk of money in VSS (all world ex US small cap). i’m up big cause i went ham on it during the covid crash. at this point it’s long term gains tax. thinking i sell out and eventually go into VT/SCHD/VYMI with it. with rate increases i imagine this will bode poorly for small cap international players? its taken a hit recently (not too bad though) but i’m still up double my money essentially on it

usernotvalid

VXUS - 10% SLYV - 8% VSS - 7% A few other chunks in ETFs, and lots of dividend kings for the income. I have no confidence in any of my individual picks or asset classes, so for me i just go for diversification.

10xwannabe

Why do you have 20% in each of VTI/ VOO/ SPY? They all do basically the same thing. The correlation of VTI (Total stock market) and VOO/SPY (large cap blend) is about 0.98. I would drop VOO and SPY and add an asset class to add diversification to VTI and QQQ. Maybe international equities? Maybe small cap value? Maybe alternatives (REITS or Gold)? Then I would leave 20% for whatever fits your fancy. So something like: 40% VTI/ 20% international small cap (VSS)/ 20% QQQ/ 20% whatever you want. Something like that seems well diversified with last overlap. Also, recommend in the 20% whatever you want category make sure each selection makes up at least 5% of the whole portfolio (so limit to up to 4 picks).

MetaphoricalMouse

Anyone have any thoughts on vanguard ETFs? I have a few different holdings but i’m extremely tempted to sell most and just buy VT as it literally is the world stock market. Got VYMI, VXUS, VOO, VSS and VT and i feel illogical for doing so. I started my vanguard holdings years ago as to get more international exposure (VSS was my first and only holding for a while). I got SCHD for US dividend companies

InnocentiusLacrimosa

Look into global markets. Index investing is still OK, trading is SHIT >>> do not go that route. So you can try this: [https://investor.vanguard.com/advice/digital-advisor/](https://investor.vanguard.com/advice/digital-advisor/) or you can just create a porfolio of (for example) 10% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VUG](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VUG) 10% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/MGV](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/MGV) 10% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VONV](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VONV) 30% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VEU](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VEU) 10% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VSS](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VSS) 10% [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTIP](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VTIP) and maybe the rest here [https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/BNDW](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/BNDW) The bond investments here are poor return, but they will be the buffer that allows you to move money from there to markets if there is a big market crash and they will also help you to keep your calm when markets are stormy.

xeoxemachine

Just bought VSS because it's got like 16% exposure to Canada. Let's goooo you maple loving neighbors to the north.

MetaphoricalMouse

probably just dump it all into VT (all world index) instead. VSS peaked at 140, now at 127. much more volatile. VT kinda hovers around 100-105 range later

MetaphoricalMouse

not spac related but shit we all talk about all sorts of shit here: getting rekt in my etfolio besides KRBN…bought a little more of a few tickers on this dip. i got a decent chunk of profit in VSS from first covid crash buying, my average is well under 100. kinda debating just selling out. it’s called vanguard international small caps ex US. Considering the whole covid thing/fed easing rates, that would probably not bode well for small caps wouldn’t it?

SpookyKG

VNQ, VNQI, VSS Don't have relatively cheap index fund equivalents.

MONGSTRADAMUS

correct me if I am wrong doesn't VT have a bit more coverage for mid and smaller caps vs acwi and msci, it probably isn't that much of a difference though. Something like VSS would be good to help cover the smaller caps for international.

10xwannabe

VSS would be a solid choice. Think it has EM small in there as well. if not, one of them from a different company has EM small in with developed small.

WerewolfMaleficent83

For 16yo I wouldn't be focusing on dividends or income at all. Stick with a globally diversified index portfolio and let the power of time and compounding do the rest. Maybe a slight overweighting to international and small caps. Something like: VOO US large cap -35% VB US small cap - 15% VEA Developed markets ex US -20% VWO Emerging markets -20% VSS international small cap -10%

ZettyGreen

* .04% cash * 19.96% Long term treasuries * 80% equities The .04% cash includes all cash, including cash flow management needs(to handle daily expenses), etc. Obviously I keep *just* enough cash to meet liquidity needs. My portfolio is: * 32.00% Vanguard Total Stock Market ETF (VTI) * 16.00% Vanguard S&P Small-Cap 600 Value ETF (VIOV) or AVUV * 16.00% Vanguard FTSE All-Wld ex-US SmCp ETF (VSS) * 16.00% Vanguard FTSE Emerging Markets ETF (VWO) And the remaining 20% is TLT and cash. I keep the LTT in case there is a rush to safety in the next crash. It's a gamble, but I'm comfortable even if it doesn't pan out. If/when the market crashes big and LTT goes up, I plan on converting 100% equities again until the next market high and then I'll re-balance to 20% LTT again. Yes it's market timing, but I'm OK with that. Upon my death I've asked my heir(s) to invest in a single 80/20 fund (Examples: AOA/FFNOX) and ignore all of the above.

shroomsAndWrstershir

Your estimated revenue numbers for VG are out of whack. 2022E revenue assumes 8 flights minimum. They'll probably get 1, and they have a reasonable shot at 2. They have 0% chance at getting more than 3. 2023E revenue assumes 27 flights, or 2.25 flights per month. 1.5 is way more likely. That would be 18 flights or revenue of 36M. Harder to estimate after that. Really depends on their progress with VSS Inspire (not to be confused with VSS Imagine, which is the ship that's just started ground testing) and their upcoming Delta class, though I personally don't expect those before mid-2024 at the very earliest. But I will say that your 2025 numbers assume something in the realm of 120-150 flights, over 10 per month, which is WAAAY outside the realm of possibility, since it would require taking the mothership (VMS Eve) out of commission for an extended service and maintenance period, which it will need at least every 100 flights, if not sooner.

mjbauer95

I am intentionally buying VSS because it contains so many stocks that I can't otherwise buy. But, where possible I like to hold stocks directly proportional to their market capitalization. The quarterly rebalancing does mean this isn't all that hard to just calculate manually. I'm just a little surprised Vanguard, Morningstar, et al. don't have this number explicitly for each index fund. From another conversation, it sounds like this may be because FTSE, MSCI, & CRSP consider this proprietary information which they don't want their clients sharing.

ConsiderationRoyal87

You don't need to know very much info to find your exposure to a certain stock within an ETF. For example, let's say I want to know how much is allocated to Northland Power (NPI) if I invest in VSS. I check the [portfolio holdings](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/portfolio/VSS/portfolio-holdings) and find that it's 0.20%, so if I invested $10K in VSS I've invested $20 in NPI. This would change very slowly, because the ETF rebalances only four times per year. But in general, investing in an ETF because you'd like to invest in one or a few specific companies within the fund is not effective. VSS holds over 4,000 stocks, and there's not a stock that occupies even half of one percent of the total portfolio. When you invest in a fund like that, no single stock matters, and your concern should be the investment policy of the fund, not any of its particular holdings.

ConsiderationRoyal87

Indeed, the assets under management in VSS are worth $11.6B, according to its [webpage](https://investor.vanguard.com/etf/profile/VSS). It sounds like you're looking for the sum of the market caps of all the companies it invests in. As far as I'm aware, this does not have a label and is not tracked anywhere. I'm curious why you're wondering about this unusual figure?

10xwannabe

Good job having a EF and choosing passive, index investing at low cost. That alone will assure you will outperform most (including professionals) over your investing life (20 years+ until you die). Bad job of having cash on hand and not deployed. It is a drag on returns and if you believe in passive investing you eschew active management like market timing (waiting for a dip). Advice if you want to do something else with the extra money... Think about adding VSS (vanguard mid/ small international). It will add small, value, and currency diversification to a 100% VTI approach. If it was me I would shoot for 80/20 (VTI/VSS).

MetaphoricalMouse

1-2% fairly frequently lately for VT VXUS and VOO. VSS does crazy movement KRBN is bonkers and i love it cause it usually goes up lol

MetaphoricalMouse

Off topic but oh well, looking for opinions: Years ago i was like hmmm everyone talks non stop about vanguard etfs so i’m gonna get one where i need exposure. looking at my actual portfolio (long before i had a spacfolio) i was like hmmm i need some international exposure and bought VSS. Took a while but it’s now gotten me some pretty darn solid gains. ive bought more etfs from vanguard but i think ive gotten kinda redundant and might want to consolidate. i already axed one and started buying VOO. TL,DR: i hold the vanguard ETFs below, which should i get rid of cause they’re redundant VSS (ex US small cap, i really like and my OG) VYM (us stock dividend) VYMI (ex us version of VYM) VXUS (world stock fund minus US) VOO (sp500 tracking) VT (total work index) KRBN (carbon futures, made aware of it by a comment from u/fuck_cciv) it’s been doing well for me. i like it

MetaphoricalMouse

yeah all my etfs are actually going well today except VXUS and VSS due to the china exposure i imagine

shroomsAndWrstershir

SPCE has no way to generate meaningful flight revenue, and that's not changing for the foreseeable future. Turnaround for Unity (which only seats 4 passengers) is 2 months. VSS Inspire has turnaround of at least 4 weeks between flights (unsure if 4 or 6 passengers). They've paused construction of VSS Imagine. The Delta class designs aren't finished. Those ships aren't coming online before 2024 at the earliest, and that's IF everything goes well. They have a single mothership that even after the upgrade will need significant refurbishment every 100 flights. That comes quickly when you need to be flying multiple times daily. Meanwhile VG burns through $80M / qtr. The current valuation is completely disconnected from reality. They're currently already priced double what they should be worth four years from now when they have 5 spaceships flying and are priced for growth.

Aq-27

I can invest 500$ every 2 weeks.. here my game plan 40% VTI. 25% VXUS. 15% VUG. 7.5% IVOV. 7.5% VSS. 5% Cash (where I invest 1/2 at 10 correction and other 1/2 at 20%) What do you think?

Aq-27

Came to ask a similar question. Looks pretty good to me.. Im only 25, not adding any bonds to my position currently, maybe I should.. I know the typical recommendation is the percent of bonds you own should match your years in age. Right now I’m investing 1,000 monthly.. 40% VTI 25% VXUS 15% VUG 7.5% IVOV 7.5% VSS 5% cash (where I invest 1/2 at 10% correction and other half at 20%)

Joey-tv-show-season2

Still believe in it? I am concerned since after earnings it was revealed that they will need 8 months for maintenance and that will only improve turnaround times between flights to 4 weeks so with VSS unity and VSS imagine we are looking at 2 flights per month or 120 people flying so it will take 5 years to fly the 600 people who booked with them. Also the get the new delta class of spaceships up and running that has better turnaround times will take 5 years also to complete

10xwannabe

Personally, VTI (70% large cap U.S. equities) will have dominate presence in other large developed equity markets. That plus VXUS being heavy in European countries which are predominately on the euro has largely decreased currency diversifcation. Both are reasons I don't think adding VXUS is that great of an addition. My suggestion is to go with international mid+ small cap (VSS ETF) or its like. It gives mid/ small cap exposure with dev. and EM realms. The idea is the smaller companies are more in tuned with the economics of their own country since they have less international sales. That means that should offer better diversification. Just a thought.

MetaphoricalMouse

wow i actually did this sorta lol. i liquidated a few holdings and moved them to over where i been dipping into ETFs harder. been buying VT over the past few days slowly. Bought more VXUS, VYM, and VYMI which i already held. DSTL is a sleep etf i really like. VSS is one i bought a TON of during covid and don’t want to raise my cost average lol. Small cap international ex. US aka the future

Necessary-Feedback11

I'd go VSS (International Small Cap + Emerging) for even higher risk/reward than VWO

MetaphoricalMouse

yeah i’m a month or so ago. i have four etfs i wanted to get buying my way up to an even level on all them then will continue monthly purchases. i wanted to wait til they dipped down but oh well, dollar coast averaging long term negates all that anyway. i have owned VSS for a while though. averaged down like an MF’er during the covid drop and it paid off big.

MetaphoricalMouse

sure! im somewhat banking in international markets outperforming the US in the coming years I went insanely hard on VSS (vanguard small cap international ex US) in the middle of covid and it paid off well. VYM, dividend vanguard etf and its international version VYMI DSTL is a small ETF found that searches for value companies. i really found it interesting, not a whole lot of volume and small firm compared to most manages it. but i found it pretty neat and threw a few grand it. Once the market eventually shits the bed i’ll throw down on VOO. It’s just too damn high for me to go in right now

Zach1902

So youre saying no Vanguard? Vanguard has free trades, otherwise I wouldn't use them. Other than that thanks for the input I am definitely going to look into TQQQ. Dont have time to day trade though but curious to see what its all about. My 12k in vanguard is in indexes. A lot in VOO, VTI, VUG, and VYM(which I will probably sell and put into VSS, VIOO, or VIOV)

javanator999

I kinda doubt that the VSS Unity class can handle a much larger rocket engine. To get anywhere serious, it's going to have to stay at very high altitude and have something to sustain the speed. It's top speed is about 2,300 miles an hour and NYC to London will take about an hour and a half at that speed. The current motor burn time is measured in seconds.

GoddardsPlumber

SpaceShip One: first spaceflight 2003 SpaceShip Two: first spaceflight 2018, three more after including this one Even IF they were able to get SS2 anywhere near the operation pace they'd need to come close to breaking even in the next decade, Branson himself admits that scaling up from SS1 to SS2 was vastly more difficult than they anticipated, and it took 15 years to get to a near-produxtion vehicle. There's absolutely no reason to believe that scaling this design up further wouldn't be just as, if not more difficult. Adding many more people or going point to point is not a trivial task, and would require essentially a clean sheet design, not to mention the regulatory issues (which are enormous and also not trivial since their design may fundamentally not be certifiable in the current landscape). Additionally, there's no indication that VG has designed this rocket to be serviceable over the long term, and has no operational experience that informs potential long-life issues - hell, they had a major structural failure on just their second flight of VSS Unity that could have caused another in-flight breakup. On top of the difficulties of getting the commuter point-to-point design to work, why would anyone risk their life on an experimental vehicle and pay an order of magnitude more money to shave a few hours off a normal airplane flight that's basically guaranteed to be safe? Modern aircraft are safe because thousands of people had to die over the last century for us to learn our lessons and improve designs and regulations to meet acceptable levels of risk. I believe that point to point suborbital travel will probably become a thing at some point in the 21st century, but I don't think VG has the team or design to make it happen before they run out of money. You might make money on the hype train, but I don't think this company is ever going to really be worth what people seem to think it will be. I'd love to be proven wrong for the benefit of mankind though, just not going to bet my money on their long-term success.

dotme

Smart money that bought up $500 million worth of SPCE shares isn't stupid, but our SPCE FDs will not see the light of day. It could be Elon or SRB himself who bought the shares back. What is the next catalyst to satisfy this smart money? 1. Registration for the next 600 will be open. Longer cruising, up to 10 or 15 minutes. 2. Announcement of VSS2 Sister Ship (need about 150 trips to satisfy the initial group), with a sister ship that could cut down the time. Possibly 200 days out of the year, that the ship can go up, with another ship, it could scale pretty nicely. 3. More contract with NASA At this juncture, while the valuation is miles away from revenues, SPCE is too big too fail, or at least see sub $10/share. Having said all that, my calls are showing the usual percentage, -99.98%.

fallweathercamping

Putting the _virgin_ in VSS