WMT

greenpride32

And who do you think owes MSFT/AMZN/GOOGL all that money? It's basically your the entire corporate world which includes your WMT KO NFLX PG JNJ PFE, US government etc.

Vegetable_Push6542

Why would slow GDP and high unemployment matter one bit to the stock market. The fact that WMT is more expensive than big tech stocks means that it's all a Ponzi and market will pump so long as there is money flowing in. This is a casino at its core.

Vegetable_Push6542

The stock market is ultimately a ponzi. You will never get your money back buying WMT or COST at these prices. That is why it has to go up forever. Otherwise the whole system comes crashing down and the government of the United States will never let that happen, not now, not in 500 years, not ever.

No_Feeling920

I'm primarily in gold miners and secondarily in silver/uranium miners. I also have some GLD/SLV LEAPS calls, but the IV may be too high for that at the moment. There may be better alternatives, though. I'm no professional. Generally, stuff with low enough P/E (under 15) and high necessity (people can't avoid buying it) may also do the job, but those opportunities have mostly vanished (e.g. retards bidding up WMT/COST to high heavens) and even emerging markets are no longer cheap (when considering the extra geo/political risk).

Vegetable_Push6542

The crazy thing is that even if this war didn't happen the economy was already in the shitter as seen by today's numbers. Just shows you that the market is one big ponzi for degenerates like you and me to lose money to big money. No basis in reality just pump stocks like WMT with single digit growth to valuations greater than tech with double digit growth.

Significant-Term6407

WMT safe haven MSFT dumpster fire

Beginning-Visual2341

Seems like WMT will live and die and 125 for the rest of eternity lmfao

sirzoop

COST & WMT Trading at 40+ forward P/E

Current_Animator7546

These are the days I love having WMT and COST.

Current_Animator7546

These are the days I'm happy I have COST & WMT as staples.

Commercial-District1

I like WMT, I don’t like TGT

TempusFugit314

A lot of defensives, like WMT, are already trading at crazy high multiples. Healthcare is under a lot of stress from Medicare/Medicaid cuts. Not a lot of good options.

Calm_Cryptographer82

I sell deep in the money covered calls all the time. I do it on giant cap stocks (WMT, HD, LOW, ABBV.....etc). Always stocks I don't mind holding, and always stocks that are roughly in the middle of the support and resistance range. I do them as Buy Write CC's. I try to do it on stocks that stay relatively flat or are going up (and pay a decent dividend). The trades are roughly 30 DTE (roughly) with decent Vol so the premiums are worth the risk. If the stock continues to rise at a slow pace, I keep rolling the CC until there is no money to be made rolling any further at which point I let the stock get taken. If they drop, I buy back the call and wait for the stock to rise so I can sell another CC against it again (I only do this if I am still ITM). In the mean time I am collecting the dividends and getting paid to wait for the stock to rise. This is a TRADING strategy NOT a long term hold strategy. I only make these trades in my IRA or Roth to avoid tax issues. I also have a cap on losses I am willing to endure before I make a decision to dump the stock. This is obviously not a good strategy for a down trending market. Many will say this doesn't work. My account balance says otherwise. Good luck.

jvolkman

>**Let’s look at some P/E ratios. Anything over 20x is typically considered over valued.** * XOM - 22.16 * CVX - 28.11 * WMT - 45.85 * COST - 51.87

HVVHdotAGENCY

Never bet against Walmart, my dude. Upside expectations come from existing ecom cagr and ai-enabled mobile and web ecom. They win on both sides of the K shaped economy with more upper middle shopping there and consolidation in grocery for the poors. I’ve been holding a lot of WMT for a long time and have no plans of selling. Although I did sell about half of it last month so I guess that’s kind of a lie, but I’m letting the rest ride

autodidacticon

>There’s an outsize effect of market banking people don’t account for. Except for analysts. Op should ask: "Why doesn't walmart support tap to pay?" and then understand the moat they are trying to build. Other than WMT is "the" recession stock, banking must be top of mind to institutional investors.

itsokbronoproblem

citadel total cap: -2% last week after PL delayed the feed used for counting cars at WMT parking lots in the middle east

IntergalacticBurn

I've held it for an entire year. It's not going *anywhere*. Hell, it has dropped down a few times when it was needed (like the November correction). I've only been trimming over and over for cash. In the meanwhile, WMT has just been going up. The price action doesn't lie.

Humble_Code_6501

Imagine thinking that valuation means something in 2026... Instead of WMT can you focus on TSLA maybe ?!? 360-400PE ?!?

CrossoverEpisodeMeme

>Amazon 100% but I dont know anyone with a Walmart+ subscription. Weird side note, Amex Platinum holders get a WalMart+ subscription as part of their annual fee. I know a few people who have it just through that. Of course, it's another example of Target dropping the ball by not trying to co-brand with a "premium" product. I hold both TGT and WMT. One has always done great, and the other has underperformed for quite a while now.

No-Understanding2406

i love how every WMT bear post follows the exact same script. "45 PE for a grocery store?? this is insane!!" and then the stock just keeps going up while everyone who bought puts gets slowly bled to death by theta. the DCF is neat and all but you're basically assuming WMT should trade like it did in 2018. the ad business alone is growing 20%+ and is nearly pure margin. that doesn't show up in your topline revenue growth because you're mixing a $700b low-margin retail operation with a high-margin digital business that's scaling fast. it's like looking at Amazon's blended margins in 2015 and saying "see, no profit" while AWS was quietly becoming a money printer. also you're buying puts on the ultimate recession stock right as oil is pushing $120 and everyone's panicking about Hormuz. money doesn't leave WMT during a downturn, it floods into it. you're literally fighting the exact macro environment that makes this trade impossible to time. but hey, the last guy who posted this exact thesis is behind the Wendy's dumpster so at least you'll have company.

Sean_VasDeferens

Location of the WMT allowing this? I need a several million airline miles.

Sean_VasDeferens

I'm looking at this post and thinking....OP currently has 100% of their port shorting WMT and their hoping this post will get the stock to go down to save their puts that are dying from theta decay. Is WMT overpriced? Yes. Can the price stay irrational longer then you can remain liquid? Yes.

Dosequis117

You live in a world where every person over the age of 45 owns a decent exposure to WMT.

Bombauer-

It was hilarious a few weeks ago when WMT said they were pushing their AI strategy. Matt Miller on Bloomberg kept saying, "Walmart, you know, the AI company..."

botella36

I work as a greeter at WMT and I am not selling my shares.

Pazzaaaaaa

At worst, it’ll probably just stay flat over the next 5 years. Buying WMT right now is dead money and buying puts on Walmart is dead money hoping for a recession. Even if there’s a recession, there’s better stocks to buy puts on.

IntergalacticBurn

Just my two cents, but my contrarian view is that WMT is pretty much the only consumer staples company out there that won't go under when the market is having a hard time (COST has been struggling hard), so people are putting a lot of faith in them as the only leader of that sector. It doesn't help that they recently swapped to the NASDAQ, which (like LLY) anchors their market cap to that shiny $1T valuation. TL;DR: There's probably too much institutional money parked in WMT right now for being the only decent staples play. So there are hard floors that'll be difficult for bears to plough through.

Alone-Supermarket-98

When has WMT ever traded at a "reasonable valuation "? It is more like a bond. In spite of this, WMT has returned +209% over the past 5 years vs the S&P returning +75%. Last year fully diluted eps were +26%, and the previous year eps were +37%. It is ubiquitous and the low cost provider in the industry at a time when the cost of living is front page news every day. It may rerate at some point, but I couldnt begin to tell you when. Expect the global markets to go wildly risk on and markets to shift out of defensives? Ok...

heavyramp

What about WMT and its gamble on SYM? If it takes off, then the groceries should be cheaper than Aldi and Costco. If not, then it’s going the way of target.

Ok-Meeting-3150

WMT delivery, paramount plus with walmart +, and target pissing off its customers

Iunatic

Bitcoin taught people that you can make money off of literally nothing. WMT rallying to this valuation is the same thing that happened to COST 2 years ago, people asked the exact same questions lol. It's a different market now. Institutions use stocks like WMT COST AAPL as a money sponge when uncertainty arises with the consumer.

BarbellPadawan

I’m definitely not buying WMT puts, so that’s probably the right play.

kalakesri

WMT is what autists buy when they try to be conservative

dljmonkeyboiz

Same .. WMT at this multiple is dumb af

ai-moderator

#TLDR --- Ticker: WMT Direction: Down Prognosis: Buy long-dated Puts The "Schrödinger's Stock" Factor: Priced like a hyper-growth tech monster (45 P/E) but actually has boomer-level stagnant revenue growth (~5%). Copium Level: Critical (DCF analysis shows the stock is anywhere from 17% to 68% overvalued, and insiders are currently dumping shares).

Iscratchmybutt

i'm hedged. 25% in BTC, and sprinkled some OXY, WMT. we gucci

therpgrad

I was holding a massive amount of SPXL at the time. I didn't want to pay taxes on the long-term gains, so I ate a very large decline on paper for that year. However, shorting key industries helped to significantly lessen the blow and allowed me to dollar-cost average while waiting for CPI and PPI to cool. For instance, back in early January, NFLX dropped 25%-ish after their earnings call. That drop was spurred by a strong decline in subscriber growth. People were also starting to worry about inflation, so that exacerbated the sell-off. TGT and WMT dropped anywhere from 20-30% across a few sessions after their earning calls in April and May. They were experiencing lower revenues due to inflation-driven consumer cutbacks. META dropped some 60% due to ad revenue declines. Buying monthly puts on every other mid-cap and large-cap company after witnessing those earnings calls was good money.

No-Improvement3164

I really wonder how much beef makes it to the shelves but never sold. I saw some of the shittiest looking ribeye at WMT for $20 per pound. Two steaks for $38 -42 Who’s buying this shit?

PapillionGurl

WMT 36 years

traderwifeconfession

Taking a long on WMT, my target is $125, even though the statistical reading says it can go up to $131

Asleep_Emphasis69

no wonder WMT and MCD were getting bought up so hard…..

greenpride32

I don't think you understand what the term bubble means in stocks and finance. It means an asset's value has increased sharply and beyond any reasonable fundamentals, purely based on speculation and lack of supporting instrinsic value. NVDA only added $4t worth of equity value to its shareholders over past 5 years. It passed AAPL last quarter for highest ever quarterly profit for a US public company. NVDA currenlty trades at a lower P/E than WMT and COST. I don't know what you look for in a stock, but doesn't get much better than that.

Wolf_on_Anime_street

$WMT to 200 by next year or i quit my job🙈

merlin2181

Because WMT moved to the Nasdaq Exchange. So all those “set it and forget it” 401k investors that keep pumping money into the system every week are buying it via S&P 500 index ETFs, DJIA ETFs and now NASDAQ Index ETFs.

Trade-nurse

I am taking one position in WMT , today it closed $123.31 , i am taking a long tomorrow , target $127

Crazy_Donkies

The market is absolutely retarded on AMZN.  WMT and COST 45 and 53?  What the absolute fuck.  All 3 should be 30pe.

Crazy_Donkies

That's some interesting DD.  I can see the connection.  Meanwhile in reality, Target, WMT, Best Buy, Costco, Lowes, Home Depot, and many other retailers all met or beat their expectations.  Unemployment is still historically low.  Home closings were a record in December.   I guess we are ignoring that the consumer is fairly strong yet and thats what leads to a recession.

whodey84

About to be some 5yr bag holders of MCD,COST,WMT etc...

Affectionate-Day2743

Green on MSFT, RKLB, SOFI and NFLX.. blood red on RDDT, WMT and VKTX

banditcleaner2

WMT being priced more richly then some of the major tech titans is really proof that investors are very skittish about the AI trade right now. And there's simply too much money trying to flee into defensive stocks like WMT and KO

dljmonkeyboiz

Imma just buy WMT puts expiring in June and chill

dljmonkeyboiz

WMT down 5% today is totally normal

No-Improvement3164

WMT heading for -5%

Cav829

So the one difference from earlier in the week is defensive stocks are now being sold off. KO, PEP, WMT, VZ, etc. all down to various degrees. WMT in particular is approaching 5% down. Could still end up being a massive rotation.

skystarmen

This is a post that would have been way better off if you just copy pasta from Chat GPT since you clearly don't know much about the retail / ecom business or either of these companies WMT has literally the best tech in retail / ecommerce behind AMZN, they've been crushing it in ecommerce, they have stores in virtually every town in the US, Sams has 95% of the same stuff Costco does for a cheaper subscription, they are growing FASTER than COST...I could go on The are both overvalued IMO but you think Costco is justified at a HIGHER PE because "vibes" I guess

Ffigy

You own Sam's Clubwith WMT so you get a Costco+

TBSchemer

WMT is investing heavily in AI robotics.

SpongEWorTHiebOb

You’re good with QBTS at a market cap of $7Billion on revenue of only $25 Million and negative free cash flow of $58 million? There are way better examples of overpriced stocks than WMT.

wanseer18

True. Average Eloncel port: TSLA, WMT, COST. Thats it.

wanseer18

Ngl I've been malding watching WMT and COST not tank at these valuations. I have no idea why regards are still buying these FUCKING SUPERMARKETS at 50x earnings and dumping MSFT at 24. Market is more emotional than my ex

Top-Bumblebee3742

Funny how close WMT is to WM - can’t have WMT without WM - fuck you

EvolvingDior

The stock market is in a major bubble. Look at the PE for $COST. The people buying these stocks at these prices are bat-shit crazy. However, note that most of the shareholders of these stocks are institutions. Why? Because institutions manage ETFs, such as SPY, VOO, QQQ which all contain WMT. People put alot of their retirement money into index ETFs. They do that blindly, with no thought as to what that is doing to the PE of the constituents. That money has to go somewhere. So it goes into all of them, driving up the price. The more indexes a stock is in, the worse it gets.

hv876

It’s HALO. AI can’t take away WMT. Infact when all jobs are gone, you’ll only be able to shop at WMT with your AI dividend check

Bradley182

bro is just finding out about WMT.

Nota-downer

That’s what they said about Sears. Remember them? The stores were shit, but the RE under them were the diamond in the rough. At least that‘s the reason why Eddie was all over it like white on rice. Jokes aside, no, I would not compare WMT to Sears, but I’m not convinced RE is a compelling reason for the SP.

botella36

WMT has the highest number of employees in the USA by a significant number. WMT has 2.1 million; AMZN 1.5 million; UPS 0.5 million; If AI is going to allow doing the same with fewer employees, WMT should benefit more than others.

Crazy_Donkies

Range bound until fall.  Next earnings season we rotate into tech but then non tech has pe ratios normalize (WMT). Then we face rip to $770 in late q3 or q4.  

Training_Baker5454

WMT has been eating TGT lunch the last 5 years.

Sandvicheater

Still bullish on TGT because disposable income cash snow bunnies wouldn't never be caught dead shopping at the ghetto WMT

Affectionate-Day2743

MSFT, WMT, NFLX propping up my port this week

Jeeperg84

WMT the ultimate war stonk

CluelessStick

Gemini says: Panic and fucking sell everything at market open, may god have mercy on your soul . QQQ 31MAR $615 WMT 20MAR $125 Copilot is refusing to provide financial advice and Grok is asking for feet pics

Happy_Discussion_536

No inflation is going to make them even more dominant. People were screeching that WMT was 49 PE and a giant bubble..... in 2021. Guess what they're even cheaper now in valuation even though price almost 3x

Iscratchmybutt

Glad I bought some WMT and COPX a week ago… hedging

Tiiinygecko

I \*do\* own some WMT as a matter of fact 😜

tcmart14

Yea but Walmarts ticker is WMT, awfully close to WMD….. maybe it’s about time to bring some freedom to Walmart.

ElmoLovesGrover

A defensive stock is stock that people buy when they think bad economic times are coming or a stock market downturn is evident. They are stocks that don't drop in market downturn, or drop less than most others. They pay dividends and typically better than average dividends, and can be expected to see more business in an economic downturn. So stocks like the ones I mention above - WMT (Wal Mart), KO (Coke) MCD (McDonalds) are considered defensive plays. Coke is not expensive and people generally won't stop drinking it if we go into a recession. More people will likely shop at WMT in a recssion as they try to save money. Same with MCD - their business goes up as people shift their restaurant purchases from other, more expensive restaurants, to cheaper fast food options.

ElmoLovesGrover

A few examples to show what is going with big tech these days. These examples can apply to dozens of other tech stocks: MSFT has excellent earnings in late January and sells off big anyway. Capex and software gettign eaten by AI are blamed for the sell off AMZN has excellent earnings a few weeks alter and sells off big too. Can't blame software so blame only CAPEX. NVDA this week has not just excellent, but excellently amazing stupendous phenomenal earnings... and sells off almost 10% over two days. They can't blame AI software fears, can't blame CAPEX (in fact NVDA is making massive bucks off others CAPEX), so they blame the generic catch-all "*valuation*". **Valuation!!** Are you kidding me? Here is NVDA forward PE according to Stock Analysis: 21.52 (note that MSFT and AMZNs forward PEs are 22.4 and 27.2). WMT, KO, and MCD have forward PEs of 43.7, 25.2, 25.8 (many other large cap "defensive" plays have similar PEs). That's right baby - NVDA's forward PE is *half* WMTs.... and people are saying NVDA is selling off because it is *overvalued*!! WMT, KO and MCD are all great companies, but they are not growth companies. It makes sense for them to have forward PEs in the high teens or low 20s. NVDA, AMZN and MSFT continue to grow at rates much, much faster than these three, yet their PEs are the same as the defensive plays no That's where sit right now. People are paying a premium for defensive plays and fleeing big tech growth plays giving many defensive/value plays PEs in the mid 20's (when they are typically in the high teens, low 20s) and giving big tech the same PEs as defensive/value plays.

isospeedrix

can't believe COSTCO and WMT are having higher PE's than mag7 and these picks fuk this gay earth

Dizzy_Maybe8225

Today's insiders sell **Walton Family Trust trims Walmart (WMT) stake with 1.72M-share sale** **Director C Douglas Mcmillon Sells 19,416 Shares**

Dizzy_Maybe8225

Today's news **Walton Family Trust trims Walmart (WMT) stake with 1.72M-share sale** **Director C Douglas Mcmillon Sells 19,416 Shares**

ahopye

GOOG flat, AMZN, WMT, COST and MRVL up, NFLX mooning

FindingZen4

Which strategy plays here for WMT: greater fool theory? Would say buy it. Momentum? Would say buy it. Fundamentals? Sell like crazy

dreggers

Forget Mag7, COST and WMT are the new overlords of the stock market

IHadTacosYesterday

the real answer, is that WMT will probably have those same profit margins 5 years from now and NVDA won't

FuckleUp

WMT 99% caters to poors

Ok_Cry7572

WMT 40 forward p/e. +3% today. $NVDA 22 forward p/e. -3% today. WMT 3% profit margin $NVDA 53% profit margin

Defiant-Fee-7550

WMT & Costco

Sick0h

WMT YOY Revenue +5.6%. WMT 1 year stock price +31.88%. Hell yea.

Affectionate-Day2743

WMT, TLT, NFLX propping up the port today

Sick0h

I had no clue that in a recession WMT PE goes to 200. Nice to know.

ElmoLovesGrover

Yeah, I've learned to be very cautious when doing that on pennies and rarely do it anymore. Works well with large established companies. If WMT, KO, or DD dips, they will come back if you wait long enough. A penny dips and odds are good it will keep on dipping, and reverse splitting, and diluteing, etc.

jarkon-anderslammer

Up 2% in 6 months with 70% growth and a forward PE in the low 20s. WMT: Up 30% in 6 months with 5% growth (in a 4% inflation environment) and a forward PE in the 40s.  Yeah, it's cyclical. Blah blah blah. 

Sick0h

Guys it’s fine, just buy WMT it goes up every day regardless

FuckleUp

I had WMT calls 😂 🚀

PassiveF1st

I'd rather buy NVDA above 180 than WMT Above 80.

Sick0h

The year is 2035. The mag7 have a PE of 6 as their annual revenues are each over a trillion but stock price growth has underperformed checkings accounts (TSLA excluded due to revenue of 17 million and PE now at 234,000). WMT is a 150 trillion dollar company.

Sick0h

Probably just buy 100% OTM WMT calls for 2 months away. That should hit easy.

Crazy_Donkies

These are good things. Let's hope they're buying the tech dip and not more WMT or COST.