WMT

NomadKing1

Retail stealing from TGT and WMT, trying to survive and they announce a headset noone gives a shit about or can even afford

Bostonparis

It's probably multiple different factors. I haven't looked deeply at their financials, but here are some potential reasons. Maybe WMT/COST are growing their earnings/revenue faster. Maybe WMT/COST are growing their dividends faster. Investors are willing to pay a higher premium if the prospects of the business growing are greater. All of the ones with higher multiples that you listed are also much stronger brands.

AshingiiAshuaa

Bought some Target on Friday. I think bud will suffer for quite a while whereas target will bounce back somewhat. BUD doubled-down, Target backed off a little. Bud and Bud Light have tons of equivalen swills (eg Coors Light, Miller Light), Target doesn't (It's the WMT for people who are willing to pay a hair more to not shop at WMT)

Rang_Dipkin

MAGA Chuds are WMT shoppers , no impact to TGT sales

redditoranna

I own 4 shares, which are down a lot now. I kind of regret buying them. Maybe if they drop more it would be worth it, but I honestly think you’re better off putting the money in WMT.

ritholtz76

Little bit careful with target even based on fundamentals. They had a biggest demand pull during covid. They are into selling lot of discretionary items unlike WMT and KR.

Shaved_Wookie

Why would businesses (BUD, TGT, DIS, WMT, UAL, KDP...) do it if it's not for profit? You think they give an actual fuck about the alphabet set? Let's lay out your conspiracy theories and who is behind them. Go woke go broke? *Laughs in biggest media empire and cultural force in the history of the fucking universe.*

Beetlejuice_hero

You have to remember that rank & file Right-Wingers in America are hapless drooling morons. I'm not referring to the RW donor class, I mean the rubes who are locked into Fox prime time (et al) -- the same types of rubes who got sucked into Iraq War propaganda and cheerled that catastrophe alongside "freedom fries" and "with us or against us" bullshit. They're so easily worked up into a frenzy by the propaganda du jour, like a frazzled cat following a laser pointer. Iraq and Obama birtherism yesterday, woke & "grooming" today, whatever bullshit tomorrow. So Target and Bud Light will blow over and the useful idiot rubes will be directed toward new bullshit and Target & AB will keep selling their shit. Personally WMT or AMZN > TGT for me but not because of Pride or any other superfluous distraction.

Intelligent_Self1034

Dollar General crashed today. WMT has been going down. Consumer demand is soft.

fortunenofame

Just swapped all my WMT stock for TGT

InvisibleEar

I bought WMT over the last 2 months with the ESPP and after fees and the stock dropping it's a 5% return selling at $147 later today because I'm scared of JPow and I need the money before December. The hundred bucks wasn't really worth how annoying it ended up being, but maybe at least it cost Walmart a small amount of money.

The_misteak

Trust me, white middleclass people LOVE their image to buy at a “clean” store over WMT’s red neck chaos.

robertw477

Roughly speaking not bad. See if you can trade on those things and go short on them. Retail stocks have always had cycles. COST is at 508. DOnt cry for money because it doesnt cry for you. Stock is up 11% YTD. You go fight it. Short it. See if it works. And with retail there are always winners and losers. WMT doign ok. Target in the middle of a political firestorm. They will be fine, and in the past a very difficult stock to trade. Ackman lost his ass on that one. Huge money. Fought for a board seat and lost.

robertw477

Doesnt look like the end of the world to me. You want to fight the market go ahead. WMT stock is closer to a 52 high vs a 52 week low. Its up a tiny bit this year but to me that no crisis or reason to panic at all. I love to zig when others zag. Seems to me merely anecotal that many seem to think the bottom will drop out (single investors) I think the best post I saw was a young guy who got an inheritance of I think 100K. He wants to be a long term investor. He doesnt want to lump sum per se in VTI (few indexes) because he heard the market is going down in a recession. This is money he doesnt need for a long time. When I see those kind of statements I go the other way. If he has a long time outlook, what the heck does a recession matter either short term or even deep. With this sort of employment I see no deep recession. I could be wrong. Its guesswork. At teh top in the pandemic I saw the same things I had seen in other bubbles. I knew some guys balls to wall with that stuff and crypto. Really high income earners by the way. Now not a peep. Hiding under a rock. And the market has not come down much. We are up for the year and a few are telling me how by EOY its a big crash and one trade they have TLT is going to be the winner. Its been a big dog so far. And super bearish on QQQ. At a 52 week high no less. In other market blowouts it has been tech that sometimes leads us out. How is NVDA doing? Bearish?

imperator285

Yea i read the average is 344. I'd rather know the median, but i suppose the two are fairly close. I bet WMT and MCD will do well, while all other retailers and restaurants will get killed.

Immediate-Plate-3229

Had TSLA doubled my stake. Sold half bought Mircosoft made money, bought NVDA made money bought AMD made money, bought MRVL. AMZN made money bought WMT didnt. But anyway right now my portfolio consists of 9 of the 10 hottest AI stocks. All bought with the money from TSLA and doing something else along the way DCA. I broke $250k in profit Friday.

FratBoyGene

> All things considered retail sales are pretty decent out there. Really? Walmart showed 7% sales increase. In a back drop of 10% inflation, that's -3% sales growth. Meanwhile, operating margin is dropping as shown [here](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/WMT/walmart/operating-margin). Doesn't look healthy to me.

TheWatchman1991

Top ones are: AMD WMT META GOOGLE BA MCD LLY There's about 22 stocks total. He's got some good picks which is why I'm curious if he stops managing it do they get sold?

Tfarecnim

Now apply that to the rest of the staples like KO, PEP, WMT, etc. Most of them are looking at a 30%+ drop if it reverts.

creemeeseason

These are all very solid points. I'd even be willing to go along that there is some additional fear because of potential boycotts. I don't think HD is a decent comp because there is very little overlap. HD is very much tied to home construction/renovation with other stuff littered in. I do follow your point though. I also think there has been pressure in the segment. OLLI and BJ are two names with similar patterns. Another theory I'll put forward....TGT soared during 2020/21. They generated a ton of growth during the pandemic, which was unsustainable. The stock almost doubled from Feb 2020-mid 2021 (also something a stock with a 3% dividend shouldn't do). I think that bubble is still deflating, which adds to volatility. WMT has basically been flat that whole time.

creemeeseason

I was using finviz, which puts them in the consumer defensive sector, and discount stores industry. Personally, I think they trend more to the discretionary side of that industry than other names. Walmart has much more defensive value than target because of their grocery dominance. WMT is possibly the ultimate defensive retailer (other than pure play grocers). So yeah, I'm looking for more merchandise comps than just the sector. BJs has grocery too, but is more dependant on other items. That's why I think DLTR and BJs are better comps. I'd also consider other discretionary names as possible comps. FL and ASO have been down a lot. WSM had pretty flat earnings too, but it's so cheap the stock didn't fall much. So yeah, it's hard to find an exact comp. I think they tend towards discretionary, but find a nice middle. That's why I like the BJs/Costco comps. Sam's club is probably good too, but it's buried in the Walmart earnings and I'm not ambitious enough to break it out right now.

creemeeseason

I'm not a holder. I do think there are much better places for my cash right now, but I thought that a long time ago, the last week has actually made it more appealing, though I like BJ if I was going to invest in a name in the sector (insert bj joke here.....). WMT is also down this week, about 5%. So is DLTR, DG, and OLLI (all 10%+ down). Those are all "conservative" names. AMZN is more a tech trade, imo, so not a great comp. BUD is about 15% off it's ATH for comparison.

Chromewave9

Since May 17, TGT stock is down 13%. WMT stock is down 2%. For the past month, WMT is down 3%. IDK where you are getting your numbers from.

danhoeg

WMT stock is down about the same over the past month too.

SPXLiquidated

Yea we have seen it with AMZN, TSLA, GOOGL, and even WMT to a certain extent also

TheWatchman1991

VISA 25% The rest is in AMZN, WMT, META, DE

UnObtainium17

It's just either WMT, COST or DLTR, but they are still too rich as of now.

beankdkfkfk

short companies like PEP LLY WMT COST 0 growth at 40 PE stop fighting against 50% QoQ growth company 

beankdkfkfk

No, Nvda and AMD are not the bubble Avgo, WMT and LLY are the real bubble these 3 should be 10 PE and no more than that

gappletwit

The comment I commented on was premised on a general downturn in retailing. Both WMT and TGT are retailers. The comment was not to the effect that smaller market cap retailers were affected differently than larger cap retailers. Accordingly the comparison is valid.

ImNewHerr

You’re missing that WMT has 392bn market cap with 1.42bn shares, and TGT has 64bn market cap on 460mn shares. A dollar drop in WMT share price is ~3 dollar drop in TGT.. meaning you can’t compare share prices while ignoring float and market cap.

PortfolioIsAshes

TGT market cap is 64b, WMT market cap is 392b. Comparing stock prices like they're the same really highlights how fucking regarded you are.

ImNewHerr

This little faux boycott has been going on for a whole few days. Let’s be generous and say, 2 weeks. Let’s review the data from May 8, until now. Walmart on May 8, was trading at 152.98 and Target was trading at 156.50. WMT is now trading at 146.61 and TGT at 140.75. But the thing you’re overlooking is the share float. WMT has 1.42bn shares, and TGT has 460mn. WMT lost 6.37 per share, over 1.42bn shares, for a loss of 9.04bn USD. TGT lost 15.75 per share, over 460mn shares, for a loss of 7.25bn USD. Now, you can play with the numbers and select a date or use ATH highs, or whatever. But the only thing that is clear here is that RETAIL is trending down. Not because of a boycott. Not because someone who never shopped there decided to keep on never shopping there. Because consumers are spending less in stores, in general.

gappletwit

WMT is at $146 down from a 52 week high of $159. TGT is at $140 down from a 52 week high of $183. (Numbers omit cents and are from TD Ameritrade.) Are these numbers incorrect? If not, it is quite clear TGT is down considerably more than WMT.

ImNewHerr

WMT has shed much more than Target, man. Are you even looking at the data, or just typing shit?

gappletwit

Nothing to do with Pride? Maybe the decline is not exclusively attributable to the Pride merch. But it’s hard to rule out the effect completely. WMT hasn’t moved as much for example.

BigBoboGoingBigger

Didn't COST already get expectations lowered and still missed like this? HD, LOW, TGT, WMT all warning about the consumer and now COST outright misses...seems bad for the consumer guys.

Rang_Dipkin

MAGA throwing a hissy fit over TGT rainbow clothing ... We all know their broke asses shop WMT

WickedSensitiveCrew

It has nothing to do with boycotts. It is the default fears tanking market. WMT stock is down too and they dont have the same boycotts taking place for example.

putsRnotDaWae

I prefer warehouse clubs like BJ for the strapped consumer. Also compared to Costco, faster growth, better gross margin, less than half the multiple (also half the multiple of WMT), trend of deleveraging vs Cost seems to be adding debt overall in a rising rate environment. That said, all three are going to do wonderfully in an environment of sticky inflation.

UnObtainium17

no one can really tell, but pessimism is the bigger voice in the market right now.. I presume this is for a retirement account? If that is the case, personally I don't concern myself too much about the daily/weekly/monthly movements of a stock if my time horizon is years or even decades from now. If you think that long term WMT thru ESPP will perform better than a broad market mutual fund fund then you got your answer.

InvisibleEar

Do you think WMT will keep dropping over the next month? I have some ESPP I bought over the last month and while it's still a profit from the match it feels bad.

Bradley182

I made $325 on WMT puts.

cranialrectumongus

Is $800 really 5% of your net worth? That was the premise. The last time we had a recession was from 1965-1982. During that period of time IBM, a Dow Blue Chip (smart money), was basically flat. Two relative upstarts, INTC and WMT, more than 10x'd during than same period of time. You hate Cathy Wood because someone told you too and you listened. She's hit and miss with her picks and mostly made a name for herself because of her blind commitment to 'growth stories' during periods where it was rewarded. When the eventual Fed pivot takes place, and the growth narrative takes place again, ARKK will be a great place to have cash parked. The market however will try and front run that and those who miss train will be forced to chase it. I went long a very few shares in ARKK yesterday, and have small positions in BABA, JD and slightly bigger position in UNG. I had an QQQ iron condor that expired today, received all the credit (ROI was 27%). I have a SPY iron condor that expires on 6/30 and VIX call debit spread that expires on 6/21. On the other hand, I have a $10K I Bond that 8%. Warren Buffett has proven everything you just said, and I agree with both of you. But there is not just one way. Some people make great money by buying the ETF's and others make great money day trading. Some people only sell options and just look for high IVR and low delta. The one constant I have found, even among the successful, is that they think their way is the only way. I try and learn something from everyone. This just came to me and I revealing my age, Bruce Lee claimed to create an amalgamation of martial arts he called Jeet Koon Do, trying to take the best from all striking martial arts. He said, we should not be constrained by what we are taught. I use fundamental analysis for investments and technical analysis for trading. I usually sell option premium because contrary to having "options" in the name, it is actually the least risky way to take a directional trade. I've been wrong on many directional trades and still made the full credit using iron condors. "Be Water, My Friend. Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless, like water. You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." Bruce Lee “what gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so." Mark Twain

numnard

So I bought some WMT puts at the turn of the trend but the earnings spikes fucked the contract prices despite it being lower now. 7/21 140p

5uckmyd1ckb1t4

If we can have WMT at 150 tmrw I will suc coc

5uckmyd1ckb1t4

\-6k on my WMT calls

Desmater

I wouldn't invest into a retailer unless they had a solid management team and business model. Only ones I own are COST and WMT. Look at all the retailers going out of business or not doing well. Toy's R US, Bed Bath and Beyond, Sears, etc. Retail theft is going up. TGT said they lost $500 MM to shrink.

DD_equals_doodoo

Reddit is an echo chamber for doomerism. Unemployment is still low [https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE](https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE). WMT beat. APPL beat. 79% of companies reported (as of April 28) beat EPS estimates and 74% above revenue estimates [https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-earnings-season-update-april-28-2023](https://insight.factset.com/sp-500-earnings-season-update-april-28-2023).

Appropriate_Meat2715

Walmart earnings beat expectations and lift sales growth forecast. Time to buy some WMT calls and ride the wave. Don’t be a paper hand.

JFSM01

Love rklb, if I could put some of my money every month there I would. Currently own 600 shares at 4.4 avg. At 20 yrs old I don’t think its that bad. Apart from that I own some WBD AMZN MSFT WMT.

Tfarecnim

The 5% is only guaranteed for 1 year, the longer durations (up to 30Y) are currently 3.5 to 4% https://www.ustreasuryyieldcurve.com/ Whether that's a good deal depends on what you think will happen in the next 30 years, but the TINA of 2009 - 2021 is dead, especially with the multiple expansion (AAPL, MSFT, KO, PEP, WMT etc) that has occurred and that rates are no longer near 0. Ultimately the goal is to invest in companies that are eventually able to return the money at a reasonable rate and not 1% yield while promising unrealistic growth.

mike6612251

Let me know what you think. What should I buy or sell. AMZN 9.28 AMC 0.58 AAPL 25.68 XOM 9.71 FDX 16.43 F 13.01 GME 0.34 SIRI 0.35 VYM 4.25 VZ 16.72 WMT 0.67

buried_lede

Buyers turn to discount, like WMT or maybe fivrr

joel1229

WMT 149/148 Puts 6/19

stvaccount

I would reduce apple and increase WMT to have it 50% 50%

Eximietate

I’m gonna need WMT at $142 by this afternoon thanks

wearahat03

Probably not, look at the all time chart. There's always dips, but every dip is a higher low than the previous dip. So the next time AAPL dips, it will bottom at a much higher level. The moral is always buy the dip, as eventually stocks will recover and make new highs. Anyone who invested in MSFT or AAPL 30 years ago in their 20s should be retired by now. Hell they don't even need that, an investment into WMT or MCD 30 years ago will be retirement money today. Invest today and let time do its job

Eximietate

How many WMT puts to buy… ie how much money do I want to lose?

Eximietate

All in WMT puts. 10% drop incoming. Inverse this for mad gains

easily_rekt

https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/13kuctd/daily_discussion_thread_for_may_18_2023/jkmqrts/?context=3 WMT 150 puts up a cool 500% since then 👍

Bradley182

The earnings were a little hard to play. In the end I was only really profitable from WMT puts.

FemaleEcho

Come on WMT $130, mama needs spendin monies… #💸

Eximietate

Buying a WMT put yesterday was incredibly stupid

J_da_CPA

WMT is the shiznizz

And0_Command0

Shouldn’t have sold my WMT calls at close yesterday WTF

RealLiveKindness

Yup need something to talk about. I’m thinking WMT is doing better online, they’ve closed some stores. Their business is expanding, they are adapting to conditions on the ground. Think they are well managed.

easily_rekt

Bad earnings = moon so WMT probs finna tank.

surfinbird

WMT 👍or👎

deez_treez

WMT destroyed Target on grocery. Low margins but customers are coming in the door. Target can't get em in.

ecommerceshares

$WMT doing just fine. US comp sales +7.4% (vs 8.3% last q). Food inflation low double digits. Ecom +26% 😀 FCF +$7.5bn at $0.2bn vs the huge burn a year ago, as US inventory -9%. “Non-GAAP EPS” 😒 +13.1%. Guide raised. Now at 25x flattish FY ‘24 adj EPS guide, not exactly cheap.

Sweet_Sharist

Also, in my new neighborhood there’s a WMT ‘marketplace.’ It’s like a Sprouts or Whole Foods in design and feel. Produce area is rocking it. TWO aisles devoted to gourmet dog food and 30% of that is in refrigerated units. An entire aisle of canned coffee/monster type drinks. Lost about 20 minutes reading things I’ve never seen. Elaborate. Only like three lightbulbs, tho. This concludes the field report from the middle of nowhere. Other salient detail includes the fact that everyone I meet asks me if I have been there. They also have a gas station and regular is $3.05/gallon.

Yogurt_over_my_Mouf

WMT beat across the board and raised guidance, and ruined your argument.

SleazyAsshole

Damn your cheeks about to get clapped so hard at open. Baba and WMT flat after earnings. NVDA now over 305. AMD up in pm. SPY, QQQ and TQQQ up from last close. You went too hard in one direction my guy.

Yogurt_over_my_Mouf

discretionary spending is soft right now. it makes sense. BUT bank balances have barely moved. credit debt is up mostly due to consumers spending more on experiences like travel. so WMT beating across the board is good news. get fukt BER

SweatyUrbanwankerman

Theta gang strikes again on WMT, just like TGT

Yogurt_over_my_Mouf

WMT never pumps dude. wtf were you thinking ?

Ready2gambleboomer

WMT wtf? What is this a pump for ants? I should have known better than to bet on the poors. I'm fucked.

Kriegprojekt

WMT beating for the quarter. Revenue beats, EPS beats, online sales beats… What no one is taking into consideration about WMT is their customers are slowing spending and net income decreased pretty significantly. That decrease comes even after their cost cutting practices starting late 2022/early 2023. Their beat on revenue is meaningless if it’s due to them raising prices to offset supply costs especially when there is little organic growth. Consumer stronk though.

_hiddenscout

Plus LiveSquawk 10m $WMT | Walmart Q1 24 Earnings: - Adj EPS $1.47 (est $1.31) - Rev $152.30B (est $148.72B) - Total US Comp Sales Ex Gas +7.3% (est +5.08%) - Sees Q2 Adj EPS $1.63 To $1.68 (est $1.70) - Sees FY Adj EPS $6.10 - $6.20 Saw $5.90 - $6.05 (est $6.14) - Sees FY Net Sales +3.5% Saw +2.5% To +3%)

Yogurt_over_my_Mouf

#WMT beats and raises guidance. SOFT LANDING confirmed BERS FUKT

Ready2gambleboomer

Morning Europoors & fellow Anglo poors. Well looks like my CSCO calls are toast. Couldn't you say A.I. at least once? My only hope to save the day is the poors at WMT. Lotsa EBT government monies floating around out there.

BetPatient7551

WMT gonna break the market today

numnard

WMT puts PHM puts GME calls Succ nut

OutofTownInvestor

Tomorrow WMT beats, more debt-talk copium, then when everyone realizes the truth - there is no debt ceiling solution yet, game over,man. Game over!

lipmanz

WMT about to release ER after looking at HD and TGT misses