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Yeah I realised straight after posting. Can’t edit titles on Reddit so I’m stuck with it. My bad. I originally wrote this for WSO and then reposted here, so the formatting is a bit essay-ish.
Same as they were for 2025. HEI, BRK.B, F, WSO, COST, and VT (last is not a stock, obviously ... I moved out of a couple individual stocks and into that last year). I did not beat the S&P500 last year (16.8% vs. 17.something) but I usually don't in big up years. I tend to be crash-proof, though (e.g, in 2022, I was up 3% while the S&P500 was down almost 20%). I'm still beating VOO CAGR by about 2% over the last 17 years.
so i've been trying to learn more about trading (forex + futures mostly) and honestly the courses are expensive af. randomly came across this site called WSO Trading Courses and they've got a bunch of the big name stuff way cheaper (like 80% off, sometimes more). grabbed one just to test and it's the real deal. same content, way less money.
if you're still paying full price for trading education… why lol. i picked up a forex strategy course from WSO Trading Courses for cheap and it's the exact same thing i saw listed elsewhere for $$$$. might as well save your money for actual trading instead of overpaying for courses.
There were testimonials that some in finance voted Trump so that they could say slurs. I used to be active on WSO and the political opinions there are basically slightly left of the KKK. Now people there are shocked at how dumb their guy is.
Whether it's making crypto coins or buying corporate bonds for his personal investments 🥭 is in office to profit and make his billionaire cronies more powerful and richer: https://youtube.com/shorts/hKgtRsqnloE?si=zwgkfk_VBTtS2WSO
Im liking HVAC right now. TT, CARR, LII, DKILY, WSO, JCI
To make it easier on your side here are the links: Stack Exchange Quant Group: [https://quant.stackexchange.com/search?q=options+pricing](https://quant.stackexchange.com/search?q=options+pricing) WSO: [https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/trading](https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/trading) WSO is a forum that's more for people who have a career in finance like investment bankers, PE funds partners, analysts at quant funds, etc. But you could go into the trading forum and ask this same question and get answers from people who trade for a living at large market makers like Citadel. I linked the trading forum.
I provided my answer which is that the Greek is charm (although it's getting downvoted), but it is pretty clear from the answers on this thread that this question is unfortunately beyond the pay grade of this subreddit. OP: best to ask this question on places like stack exchange, WSO, or elsewhere where most people in the forums are actual professionals in the field of options market making, quant trading, or other highly mathematical fields tied in with options since they can more easily answer your question. The truth is that most people hanging out on Reddit are the blind teaching the blind since most of us aren't pros in this field and won't be able to provide an accurate answer.
So what are your favourites sub 30B cap companies? I’ll start WSO - amazing MOAT, management execute to perfection and great capital deployment
Totally agree. The only time I'd do it (and I never have) is if I think the stock is over-priced, but market is still pushing it higher. WSO comes to mind. It's kind of a coward's way out of having to make the decision to pull the trigger immediately ... which is why I haven't ever used it.
My sweet spot for value DCF is 5-30b market cap. I find value there. Some stocks i catched 5Y ago: WSO/SYK/DECK
didn't work the way i wanted... stocks from screen.. done consistently well last 5 years. no tech. no LLY. S&P 500 (i think).. and i took out residential construction names from my earlier abortive attempt here are the symbols from the screen, AXON URI (see alot and for long time now) PWR (see alot) ODFL WSO PH IRM BLDR stocks that didn't make this screen but i see them all the time, Grainger Cintas Tractor Supply Progressive Paccar Vertiv (is technically an industrial but AI play) Trane
Long $TT, $WSO, and $CARR
- some years ago I read a DD about airconditioners, seems like it was super right! https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/ji0hxs/how_to_profit_off_global_warming_hvac_market/ - Daikin - Japan - Honeywell - WSO - Hudson tech HDSN (recycles them) https://www.reddit.com/r/ValueInvesting/comments/whwcc4/hudson_technologies_hdsn_moat_increasing_demand/ - Worlds top 5 Air conditioning Manufacturers: Hitachi (Japan) LG Corp. ( S Korea) Daikin (Japan) Samsung (S. Korea) Voltas (India)
- some years ago I read a DD about airconditioners, seems like it was super right! https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/comments/ji0hxs/how_to_profit_off_global_warming_hvac_market/ - Daikin - Japan - Honeywell - WSO - Hudson tech HDSN (recycles them) https://www.reddit.com/r/ValueInvesting/comments/whwcc4/hudson_technologies_hdsn_moat_increasing_demand/ - Worlds top 5 Air conditioning Manufacturers: Hitachi (Japan) LG Corp. ( S Korea) Daikin (Japan) Samsung (S. Korea) Voltas (India)
I am long $TT, $CARR, $WSO, $JCI. No fast money here, but it seems like the weather will cotinue to drive their business...
Another instance [here](https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/associate-at-us-bank-said-to-die-after-working-120-hour-weeks). Largely covered by WSO. Associate at BofA in the FIG group.
Man those F and CVS numbers... Crazy that they're flat the last 6. Ticker Symbol: F P/E: 11.73 P/E Rank: 82.36 P/S: 0.28 P/S Rank: 95.62 P/B: 1.17 P/B Rank: 77.00 P/FCF: 7.50 P/FCF Rank: 86.57 SHYield: 6.20% SHYield Rank: 84.57 EV/EBITDA: 14.60 EV/EBITDA Rank: 59.93 Overall Score: 486.04 6 month price momentum: 4.44% Ticker Symbol: CVS P/E: 10.61 P/E Rank: 85.27 P/S: 0.24 P/S Rank: 96.64 P/B: 1.16 P/B Rank: 77.35 P/FCF: 8.31 P/FCF Rank: 83.53 SHYield: 5.57% SHYield Rank: 81.41 EV/EBITDA: 8.38 EV/EBITDA Rank: 81.64 Overall Score: 505.84 6 month price momentum: -4.31% Ticker Symbol: WSO P/E: 30.85 P/E Rank: 53.07 P/S: 2.27 P/S Rank: 47.63 P/B: 7.39 P/B Rank: 18.08 P/FCF: 31.39 P/FCF Rank: 47.44 SHYield: 2.34% SHYield Rank: 60.10 EV/EBITDA: 19.76 EV/EBITDA Rank: 48.22 Overall Score: 274.53 6 month price momentum: 3.72% Ticker Symbol: COST P/E: 47.85 P/E Rank: 44.36 P/S: 1.30 P/S Rank: 68.20 P/B: 15.62 P/B Rank: 10.50 P/FCF: 52.30 P/FCF Rank: 40.49 SHYield: 2.86% SHYield Rank: 63.82 EV/EBITDA: 29.21 EV/EBITDA Rank: 41.61 Overall Score: 268.99 6 month price momentum: 32.26% Ticker Symbol: TSCO P/E: 24.27 P/E Rank: 60.50 P/S: 1.82 P/S Rank: 55.88 P/B: 12.30 P/B Rank: 12.01 P/FCF: 45.55 P/FCF Rank: 41.98 SHYield: 4.00% SHYield Rank: 72.33 EV/EBITDA: 16.60 EV/EBITDA Rank: 54.38 Overall Score: 297.09 6 month price momentum: 19.86% Ticker Symbol: HEI P/E: 62.79 P/E Rank: 41.19 P/S: 8.18 P/S Rank: 17.47 P/B: 8.12 P/B Rank: 16.75 P/FCF: 61.45 P/FCF Rank: 38.87 SHYield: 0.11% SHYield Rank: 39.68 EV/EBITDA: 34.86 EV/EBITDA Rank: 39.62 Overall Score: 193.59 6 month price momentum: 13.72% Ticker Symbol: JNJ P/E: 26.45 P/E Rank: 57.57 P/S: 3.82 P/S Rank: 32.02 P/B: 5.16 P/B Rank: 25.09 P/FCF: 19.47 P/FCF Rank: 59.87 SHYield: 0.86% SHYield Rank: 47.38 EV/EBITDA: 11.79 EV/EBITDA Rank: 68.66 Overall Score: 290.60 6 month price momentum: -5.54%
Can you run: F, CVS, WSO, COST, TSCO, HEI, JNJ?
u/_hiddenscout Did you end up buying WSO? I think we talked about it, but I'm not sure the results. I just came across my reading again as one of the handful of companies that has returned an 18%+ CAGR over 30 years.
I’ve got a stack of $WSO — sound as the pound.
WSO continues to be an absolute beast. 40% increase in operating cash flow to a record $299 million.
COST, HEI, CVS, WSO, TSCO A month ago, CAT and A, but they are up 20% since then.
Pfizer is not a well run company - it's a stagnant dinosaur that I've often called the Immelt-era GE of pharma. People thought it was cheap on here months ago and much higher but when something isnt well run cheap can easily get cheaper. Eventually it will get overhated and have a more sustained bounce but beyond that, share price is below where it was 20 years ago and nobody has yet to offer a reason why the next 5-10-20 will be any different. The enthusiasm on here over something with that track record is perplexing. Same thing with AT/T - not a well-run business and one that has made substantial mistakes over the years, such as the failed T-Mobile deal. Kraft Heinz I wouldn't want because of the 3G involvement; I want companies that innovate, not focus on things like zero-based budgeting. Fine enough choices otherwise - I'd say perhaps REGN over PFE. I'd rather WSO, BX, MPC, CP or JPM on a pullback than T or KHZ
WSO up $10 this morning, I don’t know why that stock doesn’t get any love here. It’s been a *great* one for me. if I was a swing trader, I’d pick that one. I finally quit waiting for a dip on COKE and bought 3 more yesterday.
WSO. One of my old reliables, is down big time. Debating adding more…but I think not yet.
I have started investing in specific stocks recently in 2023. Timeline is generally long term … may look to trim if I find markets frothy. Any views on these stock picks? KNSL 12% at 301 RBLX 10% at 45 NFLX 13% at 353 META 8% at 266 PM 14% at 91.7 MU 14% at 65 FAST 11% at 57 FTNT 7% at 61 WSO 11% at 353
Yeah, I have a mini split pump at my house and they are way more energy efficient. Also here's more about the tax credit info: [https://www.energystar.gov/about/federal\_tax\_credits](https://www.energystar.gov/about/federal_tax_credits) >New federal income tax credits are available through 2032 providing up to $3,200 annually to lower the cost of energy efficient home upgrades by up to 30 percent. Improvements such as installing heat pumps, heat pump water heaters, insulation, doors and windows, as well as electrical panel upgrades, home energy audits and more, are covered by the tax credits and can help families save money on their monthly energy bills for years to come. In addition to the energy efficiency credits, homeowners can also take advantage of the modified and extended Residential Clean Energy credit, which provides a 30 percent income tax credit for clean energy equipment, such as rooftop solar, wind energy, geothermal heat pumps and battery storage through 2032, stepping down to 22 percent for 2033 and 2034. I was kind on the fence with CARR, but the spinoffs and that acquisition made me open a position. I don't think anything is really wrong with either. Valuation on both are some what similiar, the biggest thing is probably market cap. CARR is just a bigger company than WSO. CARR does have a ton of debt, but they were also a spin off company, which generally means they carry a ton of debt.
I’ve read about their purchase of Viessmann Groups heat pump and boiler manufacturing. I didn’t know that heat pumps were actively pushed by governments, or that they were particularly any more efficient than heating alternatives. I didn’t see anything wrong with them in the first place; just that they hadn’t progressively grown like WSO had these last couple years. I’ll give CARR another look. Thank you.
I don’t really follow WSO, but own CARR and some other HVAC plays. I’ll look into them a bit later and see if I can see anything, but from a quick glance, looks pretty solid. One of the reasons I went with CARR is because they are spinning off parts of their business, like fire and safety, to be more of a pure HVAC play. They also bought the largest heat pump manufacture in Europe. Heat pumps are extremely energy efficient and there is tax credits being offered for them.
So I bought shares of WSO. I can’t see why they’re considered bearish. I looked at their financials, and they looked good to me. Better than LII or CARR at any rate. Anyone else looking at industrial stocks wanting to share?
Ngl, I just looked up best A/C units, & Lennox was at the top. Now, I’ve put more thought into it, and looked at all 3’s financials. CARR is a bit too stagnant for my taste. The same with LII as well. WSO seems like the best investment to my untrained eye. May I ask if you have anything to add? Thanks for your reply.
HDSN A Hudson Technologies, Inc. 5.68 TT A Trane Technologies plc -0.34 LII A Lennox International, Inc. -1.02 MOD A Modine Manufacturing Company 1.08 WSO.B B Watsco, Inc. Class B 0.00 TATT B TAT Technologies Ltd.
LANC has been on my watchlist, but it's crazy expensive. LII is surprising, but the others are all on my watchlist. Nothing makes me happier than a solid compounder. WSO is a name /I/_hiddenscout mentions a lot. CVCO is a great company and I like their angle on the housing market. Modular construction is much cheaper than site built and affordable homes are in short supply. I'm shocked the name doesn't get more attention actually, only 2 analysts cover it (which i view as a plus).
[There was Tweet thread today on a list of high quality compounders, and CVCO was one of them!](https://twitter.com/long_equity/status/1687761031869739009) Check out the others. Watsco (WSO), Lennox International (LII), Texas Roadhouse (TXRH), Lancaster Colony (LANC), and Cavco (CVCO). I'm sure /u/_hiddenscout would like these. In fact, if I remember right, he might have already been talking about WSO recently...
WSO going to slowly creep to 400
Too vague of a question. Just this calendar year I’ve had a bunch a swing trades make a ton of money and a bunch go to shit. I’ve held multiple stocks all the way down to zero at various times. I stay mostly in the indexes nowadays, with some individual picking for the longer term, as well as some shorter swing trades of a week or less. Keeps it interesting for me and I do OK at it. I wouldn’t advise anyone to do this unless they have significant reliable cash flow from another source other than the stock market. To give you somewhat of an answer, worst picks were all the zeros. Best long term picks have been AMZN, APH, WSO, GGG. However there are lots of shorter term trades that I get out of in the green if I don’t believe in the continued performance of the company. Lately I’ve been buying and selling the AI hype/bubble. Kinda risky, but there is money to be made.
Didn't see $WSO reported this morning. Q1 GAAP EPS of $2.83 beats by $0.39. Revenue of $1.55B (+2.0% Y/Y) misses by $10M. 2% increase in sales to a record $1.55 billion Gross profit of $448 million (28.9% gross margin) versus $450 million (29.6% gross margin) last year 1% increase in SG&A expenses (10 basis-point improvement in SG&A as a percentage of sales) 4% decrease in operating income to $165 million (operating margin of 10.6% versus 11.2% last year) EPS of $2.83 versus $2.90 in 2022 $54 million improvement in operating cash flow It's up 7.48% today, not too bad.
I'm long CLFD, so I'm excited for them. Also looking foward to to this week: AA CALX TSM WSO FCX I don't own any of these, but they are related industries that should give some more insight into related companies/industiries. Next Week:
I tried to sell it for a few minutes before I had to leave the city to beat traffic. Had the limit set a good $50 below what I would've made exercising (assuming I had actually bought the shares at that time as I wrongly thought I was doing) but no takers and then the mid dropped well below even that, and I couldn't monitor while driving so just exercised. Very low volume on WSO options
Thanks. I'm currently sold short on SPY (and "long" SQQQ) but I didn't realize that about dividends, I'll give it a read later. For WSO the risk profile seemed better to buy the put, limiting my potential losses and believe I would've realized higher gains for the amount I was willing to risk if it had dropped just a little more than it did, but certainly possible I miscalculated that.
Have you ever heard of short-selling stock? It's a thing, totally apart from options. [https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shortselling.asp](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/shortselling.asp) That's what you did by exercising a put when you didn't have long shares. There's no hard time limit you have to buy to cover a short shares position. Technically if you were bullish on WSO you could leave it open for a year in hopes of buying to cover at a lower price for a profit! I wouldn't recommend it, though. As the article explains, you have to *pay* dividends when you have a short share position open, and may be charged a stock borrowing fee. Also, if the stock rises, the buying power you are using to keep the position open increases. If it increases to the point where you are "using up" more than your maximum buying power, you will face a margin call and will then be forced to buy to cover the shares.
I bought a 290 WSO put about a month ago, and exercised this afternoon on ThinkOrSwim. It's a a low volume stock and the put wasn't selling quickly, and I had to beat traffic, so just hit "exercise", had the buying power to cover it, and thought I was done. I have rarely exercised options and only calls before, so didn't purchase shares before markets closed, and am just now realizing I have -100 shares after getting home, Friday evening. How long do I have -100 shares? Am I still able to buy shares Monday and hopefully get some profit, or at least not lose the significant premium?
Heard some NYU sophomore girls at a bar last night shitting on a guy they had met because he said he worked at a bank but didn’t mention that it was MM. WSO has gone too far
I will say, not job related, but the ONLY time I read a 10-k and actually decided to invest in a company is when I read the 10-k for WSO back in 2012. A really impressive company that not a lot of people have heard of.
If you read about sell side research on Twitter or WSO, you'll learn that analysts don't get paid to accurately forecast every single quarter, and analyst reports are not written for retail investors (i.e., retail is not how analysts make money for their bank). Every time you update your model you need to write a note and justify your estimate changes. Doing that once a week for every company you cover (generally 15-20) would be an absolute waste of time. Also - analysts are not given MNPI to fill out their models, as many on here believe, for some reason. If management guides for $1 of EPS, you generally set your model at $1. Why? Because as an outsider guessing a company's numbers, there's a 100% chance you have less information than the company itself.
Good luck. WSO awaits your posts. hehe 👍🏻.
Thinking about buying puts on WSO, no way it's going to stay above 100
Alright nerds what’s the WSO consensus on other earnings plays this and next week, so I can inverse. Is NVDA the only exception???
I never see WSO mentioned here. It’s been a really good pick for me, and pays a dividend.
Rip all the TQQQ longs on WSO
WSO. Down today, but its done well for me.
WSO seems like a nice, stable stock with reliable growth and that pays growing dividends. I’ve set an order to buy it when/if it dips below 300$ tomorrow (which seems reasonable as a result of day to day fluctuation). Going to set a stop order for it at around $270 ish so in the unlikely event of a crash I don’t loose my shirt.
WSO, thought it's more career-oriented than market-oriented. That being said, the userbase there is ***vastly*** more knowledgeable than on reddit.
I have owned NNN National Retail Properties for several years. I was put into it by a financial advisor who wanted me to diversify from a heavily tech portfolio, and also for the dividends. I think it’s been in the red ever since But has edged up a little lately. Does anyone here have an opinion on this one? (Others he bought on my behalf have done well: LAMR, APD, ITW, WSO. Not exciting, but steady and substantial gainers.)
"However, I feel like I do. I have this irrational fear that the minute I put any money into the markets, a 2nd Black Monday would happen." Market crashes do happen, but I think they're far rarer than many seem to think. "I know I’m still losing to inflation." You could create a portfolio of basic needs - WMT, ABT, DE, MCD, WM, UNP (or another rail/logistics co) maybe something like CARR or WSO and other sort of core needs/infrastructure names that have demonstrated relatively consistent returns over time and and perhaps look at alternative strategies. Obviously past returns are no guarantee of future results, but randomly throwing this portfolio together: WMT Walmart Inc 10.00% MCD McDonald's Corporation 10.00% DE Deere & Company 10.00% ABT Abbott Laboratories 10.00% WM Waste Management, Inc. 10.00% UNP Union Pacific Corporation 10.00% WSO Watsco, Inc. 10.00% PG Procter & Gamble Company 10.00% EL Estee Lauder Companies, Inc. 10.00% BF.B Brown Forman Corporation 10.00% ...worst year (2008) was down about 10%, biggest drawdown was 33% and has provided very good returns over time. You can use https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/ to backtest and look at the results, swap in other things but the idea was a portfolio of fairly basic needs/core stuff that has stood the test of time. You're still going to lose if the market tanks - but the hope is to lose less in broad market declines and stay ahead of inflation over the long-term. And maybe you gradually build a portfolio like this over time, opportunistically constructing it over time and you keep a good amount of money in cash for a while as you get used to markets and as you get more comfortable over time, perhaps slowly invest more.
Watsco $WSO. The largest distributor of air conditioner maintenance equipment. They just finished having yet another year of record revenues and profits, they pay a dividend, have almost no debt -- and the hotter the planet gets, the more money they'll make.
You mentioned you wanted to go into investment banking then mentioned a bunch of things about trading. I think you should figure out the difference between working in IB (as well as what buy side vs sell side means), working in S&T (or more generally as a trader), and the careers that stem from them. I say this because you say: >I know what data is important and what to look for but I feel like the stock market has become so volatile it’s harder to predict now. Not sure why you are trying to predict the market when your goal is getting into investment banking. You should be learning the basics of finance, fundamental analysis, spreadsheet modeling, the accounting statements, etc. After you get the basics down and have a job in IB (get an internship first) then you can start thinking working buyside and about actually being able to predict the market in any meaningful way. > I’m struggling with how to read charts and the patterns that go with them. I’ve tried watching YouTube videos but they’re boring, I have adhd so I lose concentration really fast. This is pointless. I'm assuming your talking about candlestick patterns and the super simple "technical analysis" talked about on Reddit/Youtube. This is the finance version of astrology. And, it has literally nothing to do with investment banking. >Any good recommendations for entertaining investment videos or articles? I really want to start putting my calculus skills to use as well. Patrick Boyle if you have to resort to Youtube (hedge fund manger and professor). Everyone else on Youtube is clueless. But, you shouldn't be using Youtube at all. You first need to figure out what career you want to go into then read textbooks associated with that industry. If your ADHD stops you from doing that then you need to figure that out with a doctor. >Is there some sort of trading algorithm I could use to invest? I’ve heard of people making their own algorithm but what platform do you use to trade? The point of using algorithms to trade is to automate trading based on patterns you've already figured out (generally). There is no point to automate anything or use algorithms to trade if you haven't figured out a profitable strategy. Especially if you don't have the technical background (good knowledge of coding and very good knowledge of stats, math, quantitative finance are needed since the people you're competing against have PhDs in these fields). >Any information is greatly appreciated and I am just starting my core finance classes so I’m not that much of an expert. If you want to work on Wall Street your goal should be getting an internship in the career you want to work in and learning everything that could help you do that (WSO is a good source for specifics).
Takes a bit to craft your cold messages toward good response rates - I used WSO as a building block. Let me know if you ever want me to review.
Thanks, I hadn't heard of WSO so now I have something new to look into.
There's no HVAC ETF that I'm aware of. Also long CARR. WSO would be another high quality related name, and then you could also look at HD or LOW in terms of where to buy. In terms of "household infrastructure", I'm also long GNRC but that's gone nuts over the last month.
CME (CME). 4 quarterly dividends + 1 annual variable. Blackstone (BX). Brookfield Infrastructure Corp (corporate version - BIPC, NOT the MLP version - BIP), Watsco (WSO), Paychex (PAYX)
Feel free to throw bananas my way on WSO.
That’s a good point, social media bias is somewhat corrupting my view. But you also hear about professional money managers flying in and out (i.e. Buffett entering/exiting Barrick Gold after 6 months, though that’s a somewhat poor example first that came to mind). Or an interview I heard with Richard Craib (founder of Numerai) where pretty much verbatim says “we’re more long term investors, typically holding from 3-6 months”, really? No doubt you’re right though regarding media bias, definitely stuck in a few different spheres (WSB, Stocktwits, WSJ, FT, II, WSO, Zerohedge, Seeking Alpha, and Heisenberg report are some primary places I scour).
Fuck me. Read the thread yesterday before checking and went barely dipped my balls in WSO calls.Here is to increased demand, lower output due to fracking bankruptcy in last year. If I turn a dollar tomorrow I am out.
> maybe picking singular stocks that are technically good and growing revs with little debt and good products rather then riding waves. Only on reddit will I find the above as a "garbage take". Think I'll stick with WSO.
Yeah sure when prompt month WTI futures traded negative in April. Or Lumber Liquidators in 2019. I suspect most readers are going to take the same approach to DD on the topic of market making operations that they took when all of /r/wsb was telling the, BUY BUY BUY - not a thing. So here’s an explanation from a poster on WSO who can word it way better than I. > Where I am confused is. It looks like the GME is so illiquid and the reditors have broken the market. If the market is broken, then you need to halt trading to fix it (ie circuit breakers as one example). I agree that if they are just blocking them out to block out traders that's wrong. but if all these shares are trading and not enough liquidity is in the market to clear orders what happens. I imagine fixed contracts need to trade first. thus Options and Shorts get filled first then you can reopen to buying.
>They legitimately had something going there Do you really believe that GME's intrinsic price per share was in the $300 - $400 range / GME's total firm value should be +$20bn rather than ~$5bn? And an EBITDA multiple of of +200x? Anybody that bought in above $100 shouldn't expect to do anything other than lose money (you can work out the math on what that implies about GME's terminal growth rate - comes out to like 8-9% per annum, ergo, impossible). Not only that, I'm not entirely sure you can make an arguement for GME based on their fundamentals. I don't cover tech/retail as part of my job, so I'm going to quote a user from WSO who lays GME's fundamental problems better than I (and I know reddit thinks their new CEO is the second coming of christ, but I get the feeling that get's parroted ad nauseum because most of the reddit userbase has an emotional attachment to GME/the squeeze/whatever) >The GME short squeeze thesis has been around for at least 2 years, its not really new and was a crutch every long would fall back on. **The fundamental analysis WSB quotes is also wrong - there is no mention of the company's NWC problems, excess FCF deterioration of the core business that was covered up by the AT&T business for years, erosion of pricing power on the used game business which is the driver of cash flow, and used phone wholesale business thats been helping keep the lights on that the company doesnt talk about.** I am not involved nor a disgruntled short, but the analysis was just plain wrong.
JFC posts like this are why I can't have legitimate discussions around finance or economics on reddit and have to retreat to WSO.