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To those of you invested in crypto during the March 2020 / Covid crash, what was it like?
My observations regarding Bitcoin and the markets this week:
My observations regarding Bitcoin and the markets this week:
My observations regarding Bitcoin and the markets this week:
Why I'm short since 31k yet not bearish overall
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You should observe your behavior carefully. Then you should dabble in 0dte xsp options to grow a pair of risk tolerance. You need to see positions go up xx,xxx% and then implode to zero. Investing is an upside down kingdom; the harder you work, the less you will make. I recommend 0dte xsp options trading to quickly teach you a valuable lesson; you will not win by trying hard. Even if you try for weeks, months, or years, you’re going to fail if you try. If you spend every waking moment of your life fighting market makers and algorithms, hedge funds, technical analysis, micro and macro economic data, candle sticks, interest rates and yield curves, capital flows and dark pool liquidity, relative price movements on TLT GLD VIX, tinker with hundreds of indicators…..you could get to a point where you see patterns everywhere; you could have demonic foresight, BUT they’re just statistical probabilities in a game you’re fighting against God. Read that last sentence again. There is no safety. Everything that was created can be destroyed. These movements are boring compared to the degenerate shit I did the past two years. TLDR: from what I’ve read, statistical probabilities on historical data show that a -80% decline from all time highs is completely normal for Bitcoin. You need a plan with rules in it. You need an asset allocation where you buy some assets and you never think about it ever again.
Respectfully, I completely disagree with you. The VIX, the stock market & crypto, major investors like Warren Buffet & Michael Burry, and all the economic data all point to a recession and steep decline in crypto and the stock market….and its already well underway.
That's a nice sequence of bull flags you got there on that chart buddy. I think we have to get ready for an environment where the VIX gets extremely volatile. There's murmurings that Trump cannot hold his administration in check anymore and the economy and congress are simply putting too much pressure on him. Something will break. You have to remember we had insanely low volatility this past year. That's HIGHLY unusual. So expect some brutal swings both ways. Big money is doing rebalancing of portfolios right now for the year-end and 2026 and inside that storm there has to be enough cheddar to drizzle in the crypto market as well. We'll see...interesting times ahead.
That's a nice sequence of bull flags you got there on that chart buddy. I think we have to get ready for an environment where the VIX gets extremely volatile. There's murmurings that Trump cannot hold his administration in check anymore and the economy and congress are simply putting too much pressure on him. Something will break. You have to remember we had insanely low volatility this past year. That's HIGHLY unusual. So expect some brutal swings both ways. Big money is doing rebalancing of portfolios right now for the year-end and 2026 and inside that storm there has to be enough cheddar to drizzle in the crypto market as well. We'll see...interesting times ahead.
The VIX and the 30 Year Bond rate have a heavy influence on Bitcoin's price If you follow these you will be able to make better decisions on what to do with your investment
Post is by: Impossible-Band-2393 and the url/text [ ](https://goo.gl/GP6ppk)is: /r/CryptoMarkets/comments/1owg24f/tech_stumbles_as_markets_pull_back_and_volatility/ Markets kicked off the week on a cautious tone, with major indices pulling back and the VIX, Wall Street’s go-to fear gauge starting to climb. Tech stocks, which had been doing much of the heavy lifting in recent months, led the retreat, dragging broader equities with them. With earnings season fading and macro headwinds creeping back in, investors seem to be reassessing risk. Rising bond yields and lingering uncertainty around Fed policy are weighing heavily on high-growth names and tech is feeling it first. For me, this kind of market is where things get interesting. Volatility can be risky, sure, but it also creates opportunities especially now that I’ve shifted part of my trading to tokenized stocks. Platforms like Bitget are making it simple to go on trade instantly, with zero fees that come with traditional brokerages. I’ve started rethinking how I trade stocks altogether. When you can buy something like TSLA and with faster execution. For active traders, this environment presents both risk and opportunity especially with the increasing appeal of trading tokenized stocks and hedging. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/CryptoMarkets) if you have any questions or concerns.*
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I use bitcoin as an indicator for liquidity and the negative response suggests to me that, along with the rise in the VIX, with VVIX, that the market is no longer 100% certain the music is going to keep playing. BTC is probably going to be flat for a while, drifting upwards, but no real movement until Dec.
That index is similar to VIX, a reflective of market sentiment, though not as detailed as VIX, provided some insight into the market
Your feelings make sense considering both the uptrend since friday and downtrend since ATH are converging tomorrow, and tomorrow is VIX expiration day infamous for wacky markets. Until tomorrow morning though, I think it stays super flat.
conflict of interest, corruption, misusage of power for personal enrichment.. there's a lot wrong with it, just from looking at the surface however looking underneath, by modeling risks, gives us additional insight I do think he wanted to be hard on China, in a negotiation tactic, as he timed the economic attack with market strength from dealers hedging options exposures however, the mm hedging was overwhelmed, and volatility became unpinned after that Friday into after hours for markets.. it set the stage for VIX shoot up last week Friday premarket and so that posed serious downside risks for markets and that left him little choice but to taco American optionality continues to slowly bleed out from a thousand paper cuts markets are going to slowly, over the years, start dictating American policy due to the diminishing of optionality from gross, short sighted mismanagement
I have been tracking crypto since 2017, that monster run up to 20,000. I was quite astonished. Some of the new engineers fresh from grad school were buying a few dollars worth per week. Mt. Gox and Silk Road were still talked about and I stayed on the sidelines. Then came the big price drop. I kept watching and learning about crypto and blockchain tech, and finally jumped in during 2023. It looks to me like a drawdown to 80,000 for BTC in the next few months, maybe by the end of the year would fit the pattern of the previous four four year cycles. With institutions participating and ETFs and DATs taking up some of the inventory of coins, it would not be surprising for the to be a little less volatility, so the pullback may only be down to 90,000 or so. That’s the conclusion I have come to over the past five days anyway. I am heavy on VIX calls, a few puts on my crypto related stocks and clearing margin.
No, it is mostly VIX which is problematic.
Gold is skyrockets and VIX is also up (volatility). Basically fear factor is coming back into the market like when Trump first introduced tariffs. It's like the smart money is quickly moving to gold and everyone else is scared. Apparently people are waiting in line for gold in some countries.
I had a buy signal on the VIX and bought it. Not that hard to figure out.
It's the politics. S&P 500 Drops Most in Six Months on Trump Tariff Spat With China, Wall Street’s chief fear gauge, the VIX, topped 20 for the first time since April — a level that typically signals mounting market stress. Tariff-Fueled Plunge Has Traders Worried There’s More to Come etc etc. It will settle down. Eventually
The emotional cycle is so predictable it's almost algorithmic. I've been tracking correlations between traditional market fear indicators (like VIX) and crypto behavior, and the patterns are remarkably consistent. The interesting part is when these correlations break down - those disconnects often signal major moves. The key is having systematic entry/exit rules that remove emotion entirely. I've found that timing based on multiple data sources (not just price action) helps avoid these psychological traps. Anyone else use non-traditional indicators for timing?
While it’s a near certainty Fed will cut 25bps it’s not unheard of for their decision to buck market sentiment. In Sept 2008 the Fed shocked the market to the downside by holding rates steady, when markets had already priced in cuts as a near certainty. VIX is up sharply this week diverging from its normal correlation with SPY. This suggests hedge funds and other institutional investors are buying puts as insurance for their longs. They would not engage in this if something “is already a fact.” Even if downside risk is small, it’s present to protect your positions against it when managing institutional money.
Everyone is positioning before the meeting to protect their stack. Look at Wall Street: today SP500 up 0.4% would normally mean VIX is down or flat but VIX was way up today suggesting a large volume of Put buying as insurance for long positions. Same is happening with crypto markets. Id only expect huge moves Wednesday if there’s a 50bps cut or no cut. The 25bps cut is pried in. Price movement around a 25bps cut will probably mostly be due to larger options/leveraged positions opening and closing.
VIX is down, Spy is up, but crypto is down??? Make it make sense
Because the VIX dropped heavily yesterday morning. When the VIX drops, Bitcoin and the stock market go up. When the VIX goes up, Bitcoin goes down The VIX is the volatility index Prior to the VIX dropping, the Fed announced they would be lowering interest rates, which is what led to the drop
Gold isn't a good comparison. VIX is tanking meaning gold is about to crash.
I prefer the chart. There is always a narrative. Dollar looks like it needed to rally, VIX bottoming, NASDAQ rallied 40% from the April low, retail investors piling into longs, this very sub telling me to pile into tech calls, popping off of meme stocks and FIGMA IPO, historically weak period for the market where people have been calling for a 5-10% pullback for a while now. How many more signs do you people need? The market would take any narrative it could get to slow down.
Bitcoin was always going to get a Q3 pullback. The dollar started to bottom out, the VIX making lows, the narrative is the narrative but Bitcoin was not going straight to 200-300k like your favorite YouTuber promised.
..short the VIX and fuck Bitcoin.
SPX6900 look what is he doing and VIX777 which I called here weeks ago that coins will grow up becouse they are different than others and these two have mission. Believe and stop trading. 💹🧲🎰
tldr; Bitcoin's price remains above $100,000, supported by a drop in the CBOE Volatility Index (VIX) to its 30-year average of 20, signaling a 'risk-on' sentiment. Analyst Timothy Peterson predicts Bitcoin could reach $135,000 within 100 days, citing low VIX levels and increased investor confidence. Additional factors include cooling inflation and a US-China trade deal. Indicators like the Bitcoin Bull Score Index and Fear & Greed Index suggest optimism, with historical patterns pointing to potential further price gains. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
Yes. I brought some majors when VIX was above 60. And I sold when BTC hit $94K. So I can admit I sold too early.
Chceck VIX777 altcoin stock to meme. Best time to get it now :)
A huge chunk of US companies report this week. I don't think the market is settling though. VIX will keep bouncing up and down until there is some momentum on tariffs outcome.
Hahahaha bro your name is literally VIX trade. Absolutely no one, and I do mean no one, should listen to anything you have to say about Bitcoin. Perhaps go do some actual research on what it is you’re even talking about.
If it hit a million, I'd sell and buy a Lamborghini jk. Probably, buy a reasonably used Porshe 911 (50-60k) that would sit in my garage most days, but also, leverage the rest of my sats to invest in more bitcoin, rental properties, or the VIX.
It was the only thing green other than the 10 year and the VIX Swapped out for natgas and wti , and the occasional silver/copper pairing to the gold box Might just be part of their swap to the new streaming thing they were advertising this morning; they were experimenting with a rss feed on the right column But the timing sure is sus
* Sanctions & P2P Volume: Measure if P2P Bitcoin trading volume (check Useful Tulips/historical data) significantly increases in countries after financial sanctions are imposed. Use regression analysis. * Inflation & Adoption Proxy: Test if Google Trends search interest for "Bitcoin" measurably correlates with high inflation rates in specific countries (like Turkey, Argentina). Quantitative time-series or panel data. * Volatility & FX Rates: Analyze if Bitcoin price volatility is linked to increased local currency exchange rate volatility, particularly in nations with capital controls or high inflation. * "Digital Gold" Test: Quantitatively compare Bitcoin's returns to Gold and stock indices (e.g., S&P 500) during market crises (high VIX periods) to test its safe-haven characteristics. * Data is Key: Check data availability FIRST! Reliable, geographically specific crypto data (P2P, flows) can be tough to get. Look at academic sources, Kaiko, Coin Metrics, IMF/World Bank before committing. * Keep it Focused: Pick one specific, testable relationship for an undergrad thesis rather than trying to cover everything. Good luck! Lastly I think I'm obligated to finish to finish up in this subs ' native language:: Even if your data is noisy and correlations are weak, remember the real thesis: Number Go Up. Stack sats, HODL on, Bitcoin if the apex money, central banking sucks, your still not bullish enough, and Bitcoin fixes this. In fact "Bitcoin fixes this" could be your title or concluding statement just for kicks. Then the Bitcoin council will officially induct you to be you one of us.
What a absolute dumpster fire! The Dow took a 2,200-point nosedive, like it tripped over Trump's tariff tantrum and face-planted into a recession scare. The S&P 500 plunged 6%—congrats, it’s basically a clearance sale nobody asked for. And the Nasdaq? Down over 20% from its peak, officially in bear territory, looking like a tech bro’s startup after the hype dies. These indexes are bleeding red faster than a horror movie victim, and the VIX is spiking like it’s auditioning for the fear factor reboot. Investors are panic-selling like it’s Black Friday at the apocalypse store—meanwhile, oil’s at a three-year low because apparently even crude can’t handle this trade war trash fire. Buckle up, folks, the markets are roasting themselves harder than I ever could!
VIX is at the highest level since covid. Stock market is playing yoyo and dancing around like a headless chicken. BTC is following stocks right now and Alts just follow BTC.
Have you been living under a rock? VIX is at 2008 levels. Global economic recession
I was mostly joking. I may follow you with some LEAPS too as soon as VIX chills
The next spike could be tomorrow. Monday is already predicted to be a continuation of the stock market collapse. All major world markets are in the red. Hedge funds are calling in margins. People are not making any kind of move in stocks with the VIX sitting at a whooping 48. The stage is set like no other time before for retail investors to finally give Bitcoin a serious look. That is why I say the spike could come as soon as tomorrow. Get in if you are not in, DCA if you are not DCAing.
Smart money is probably only buying BTC and a very select few alts. Same with stocks. Defensive stocks will always do well in a volatile market. VIX for example. I wish there were a crypto version of VIX!
The VIX is a widely viewed measure on Wall Street that measures volatility in the equities market.
To me it looks uncorrelated with the VIX
The VIX is a widely viewed measure of volatility on wall street.
Bitcoin almost always dives when the VIX pops, but something changed. Was today the start of Bitcoin finally being recognized for what it is by everyone else?
it's the implied volatility in the s and p 500 over the next month. Ballpark it means if you divide the VIX by 16 that is roughly the expected percent daily move in the s and p 500. (for clarity 16 isnt random its roughly the squareroot of the number of trading days in a year as VIX is an annual number.) So for example if the VIX is 40/16 is 2.5 so the mkt is saying it expects the s and p to move 2.5 a day "on average"
We've had 2 consecutive days of 5% drops. The biggest drops in years. Was this "buying spree" for shorts, VIX, and inverse ETFs?
Nasdaq suffers the worst day since 2020 and enters bear market territory. VIX 40+, F&G @5 near covid lows. Massive BTC buyers out there - Blackrock just bought $25MM. BTC holding and remains a hedge against global uncertainty by showing insane strength. So incredibly bullish.
We're the PTSD folks. But BTC holding 80k when VIX spikes above 40 is insanely bullish. Last time VIX spiked up above 40, BTC was 3k in 2020 and 49k in 2024.
So you agree. It's not "comfortably decoupled itself" as OP says. I'll give you another 1 day data point that could help the decouplimg argument. The VIX cleared 40 and bitcoin holding 82k. Again, I'm watching, but I'm not busting out the popcorn yet.
Options in the stock market, much easier to predict than crypto movement in this market. VIX is the volatility index so when trump announces something or does something that creates volatility such as impose or announce tariffs it tends to rise quickly. I do 1week call options and they haven’t failed me yet. Could do 0DTEs but I like having a couple of days leeway in case he immediately calls off the tariffs. Risky but worth it and with this admin it’s fairly consistent that they say they will do something stupid and actually go through with it
Per chat gpt: Based on the factors you mentioned (high market volatility, increasing VIX, stagflation, US trade wars, Bitcoin positioning, and global liquidity), my best estimate for Bitcoin’s price range over the next 6 months would be $25,000 to $30,000.
VIX is up like 80% from a year ago. Tariffs creating market fears, volatility and downturn is not a narrative, it's an economic reality.
When the market does this buy call options on the VIX
US futures green (or in some cases barely red) and VIX is red…
VIX was the play all along guys
I hope not. I want to see the VIX pamp.
This dump is throwing a spanner into the works. I was thinking up only till end of Jan. Might need to push my sells back a couple weeks, but depends how we react if we recover quickly from this. I hedged with some VIX in tradfi for the powell announcement/ meeting, made a fair bit on this dump. Rolled it into Gold but it's strange Gold is also correcting with the wider stock market. I guessed gold would rally higher with this correction of everything but apparently not... So don't have a read on what this all means. Bought a bit of Sei and OP in this dip. But hesitant to buy anything else for now
VIX spiked 74% and yet we're above 100k. You're not bullish enough
I can take a stab. Crypto follows stocks, been true for many years now. Specifically the nasdaq (NQ). So big moves in stocks, trigger big moves in crypto. So when are stocks expected to have it's next big move down? Volatility (VIX) is expected to drop considerably throughout the holidays and it'll cause stocks and crypto to rise. It'll likely suppress, drop, pretty heavily. Which month of the year is a leading candidate for the worst month in stocks? February. With VIX heavily suppressed, we'll be due for a sell event. Im personally fully exiting all crypto positions by mid to end of January. Just what I'm personally doing, do your own thing.
Is there a volatility index for BTC, similar to VIX for equities?
They don’t care about cycles? Bro, bitcoin rides right on the money with global liquidity cycles/M2 money supply. Cycles will always play a factor. 3 year cycles, weekly cycles, daily cycles. There are cycles because people can’t manage risk. Maybe cycles will become irrelevant if you can remove fear and greed from people, which you can’t. I recommend taking a look at Camel Finance on YouTube. On the daily, He goes over cycles and market positioning across BTC, S&P, gold, oil, VIX you name it
War is making the market and people nervous. The VIX is up a bit today.
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We are in one. Holy shit. I said the VIX spike is a warning indicator of ONE. So yes we are in a Recession. Im not changing my stance. I'm in fact providing more data points to prove my point.
>This is a recessionary path. August had the 3rd highest VIX spike in history. This is a warning of a Recession. See, you're doing it again. You claimed we were in the midst of a recession in August. Now that it's clear that was a painfully stupid prediction, you're pretending that August was merely a "warning" of a recession. You can't even admit you were wrong when it's right in front of you - there's nothing we can debate because you continue to change your position and refuse to admit when you're wrong.
August had the highest job loss and heavy downward revisions. The beige book even says only 3 constituents have positive growth. The rest had negative growth. This is a recessionary path. August had the 3rd highest VIX spike in history. This is a warning of a Recession. The recession will be officially announced only after we've experienced it.
Well this is fun. Just opened up an options trade on the VIX, I guess this price action is too boring for me. Famous last words. WW3 and WW4 incoming
Yup, I agree to think we're fucked. I think a bear market (I'm talking about stock market) is coming and we're likely already in a recession imo. I wouldn't even be surprised to see this become the biggest crash since the great depression. I will buy shorts on the S&P500 when my TA shows me I should. I will buy VIX next week and I have bought gold and silver. I still have bitcoin, but I'm not sure yet what bitcoin will do during a recession There could be a fear driven pump, with catalysts like banking failures etc. There is also enough time for bitcoin to get a significant top in before the crash happens and have a longer than usual bear market. The market will have to show me what I should do.
Since when is VIX and gold Bitcoin? The crypto market has no correlation to gol whatsoever and vix has been this high plenty of times. Bull run doesn't mean Bitcoin goes up only, never has.
Since when is the VIX ripping to the top of the range in a single day normal market behavior? How is gold breaking new all time highs, in what’s supposed to be a bull run, normal market behavior?
Yeah bitcoin, but how does one trade $VIX? It doesnt exist, its a fuckin formula, how the hell are you trading a^2 + b^2 = c^2 I dont know but they found a way.
I think what they mean is: Cash-Settled Options trading on BTC as an index. Like you can buy calls and write calls and whatnot on $SPX even though its an index and cant own shares of it. Same with $VIX, it doesnt exist, but you can still trade it.
I was getting rich of the bitcoin crash, shorted tf out of it last time it went up to 70,000... I could've actually made myself a couple of tens of thousands of dollars, especially if I would have commited to shorting Microstrategy. Bitcoin halving happened since april, but it went down right after that... Then it went up to 73,000 all the way to 54,000, went up to 70,000 again then dropped to 49,000. My theory is that it will keep going down maybe to 40,000 until the next boom happens. Also, if bitcoin and other stocks are going down, the VIX is going up, so there's a good opportunity. I am buying CFD's, and plan to be a millionaire in the next years. My question is, why is it going down? You claim to be an expert, not me, I just followed the market. How do you know bitcoin is not going to crash farther until the big boom happens? Why is it going to happen NOW?
I wanna see V Bottom! Gold sell off. DXY crash further. VIX crash further. BTC dominance fall off a cliff. UNH break new highs Russell 2000 break new highs. Large indexes break new highs. I wanna see crypto on the news for something that’s not speculative. And I wanna see it by the end of the month. The longer BTC sits under 70k, the more likely it’s a dead cat bounce.
And the stock market VIX is going down. Seems like we are slowly moving from risk-off to risk-on
VIX back down to 16.5, while retail on social media are afraid of their own shadows atm.
The vix spiked above 60. That was real recession fears. Yes it's stabilizing but the VIX is still above 20. This is not normal and we're not out of the woods.
Waiting for VIX to crash back down so we can pump again, should be relatively soon
Correct. A short-term market hedge for volatility or downturns can be VIX, short ETF’s, or bearish options (buying puts or writing calls).
I am out of the market one week now. Something really big is coming. It is just around the corner all indicators like VIX , rates, unemployment are almost like 2008 and a possible big war. I think this started the domino. Protect your capital bear the crush. Buy signal look at Warren Buffet he is sitting in almost 250billions.
VIX starting to slowly unwind hopefully that trend continues. Imo great time to get in to the asset. just a reminder we had record institutional inflows this past month so big money doesn’t always know shit about fuck. I’m going long today.
VIX higher than it was during the Covid dump? You bet I bought the fuck out of that dip.
Who else is backing up the truck right now? VIX over 65 this is an amazing buying opportunity.
VIX hit 55, not seen since 2008, feels like an overreaction TBH. Job market grew, unemployment is around 4%, which is 1% higher from historic lows. I get that it might cause some skepticism, but the highest volatility rating since 2008 seems dramatic.
Crazy that VIX is hitting March 2020 levels.
tldr; Bitcoin and Ethereum prices have plummeted by 17.2% and 22.8% respectively, amidst a backdrop of worsening macroeconomic conditions. The VIX index, indicating investor fear, has surged to its highest level since March 2020. This downturn in the cryptocurrency market is largely attributed to broader economic factors, such as a disappointing US jobs report and fears of a recession, rather than specific events within the crypto sphere. The situation reflects a broader market turmoil, with significant drops in major stock indices and a cautious approach from investors like Warren Buffett. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.
VIX hit levels today that we haven't seen since 2022.
Among its components put/call ratio is somewhat intresting but as far as I know its not measured the same way the VIX index is. The social media trend could be a powerfull tool to predict price movements if the sample was actually relevant, which wasn't last I checked. End result is an index that is mostly telling you something that has already happened and at the same doesn't provide with information that will allow you to understand why whatever happened happened in the first place.
VIX is at all time lows, AI is solving all the world's problems, things can only go up baby!
Options are tricky precisely because of that timing aspect. One thing about the BBWP for volatility is that it often accompanies low IV and lower premiums, so hopefully you don't get IV crushed in this place. VIX seems pretty low but not sure about MSTR premiums in particular
Maybe it’s like the VIX? But world wide
Meh probably around $5-6k this year maybe $8-9k next year barring a bear market. It also has a fairly strong correlation with the S&P. BTC and ETH are good indicators of fear like VIX for the market now. The first the fall the last to rise. If you look at the stock market rise late last year it preceded the crypto rise early this year. Now they’ve fallen it’s probably a harbinger that the money that will propel this assets upwards has outflowed outwards to safer assets.
It’s a decay instrument.. similar to how the VIX behaves. your exposing yourself to btc in an exploitive way. When things are up you make money. When things are down you will get rinsed.
It’s a volatile asset and has literally always been…invest in t-bills and put cash under your mattress if you don’t like volatility. Only cowards short the VIX.