VZ

-_Han_Yolo_-

Careful, I lost my money in boring. I made 45k in GME options and put it into VZ, DIS, and AMZN shares

one_ugly_dude

TBH, it doesn't matter if its ATM, ITM, or OTM for my scenario. I mean, sure, that affects how much I'm paying for the call but I'll explain using my own portfolio. Of course, I have never seriously looked into options and don't know how they work, so I'm sure it DOES matter lol. I'm just saying, I don't have a preference. I'm not trying to gamble, I'm trying to maximize the upside on companies that I like while minimizing the downside. Over the past year or so, I bought CVS, UBER, VZ, and PG. They are all companies I felt would do very well for the following 10+ years. My perspective of these companies haven't changed. I still want to own them, but they are -33%, +15%, -38%, and +9% respectively. Now, had I used calls options, I would now own UBER and PG, but I wouldn't be down 33% and 38% on the other two stocks. The way you describe it, it sounds like people use calls to leverage their bets. I don't think this is what I'm aiming for. I suppose I am doing that a little just by the nature of options. But, mostly I'm just trying to protect to the downside while still knowing I'll have the stock if it pops. If I'm not misunderstanding how options work, a 12-month call option can act like an insurance policy for the stocks I want to buy. Or am I just a dummy?

WickedSensitiveCrew

There are two sides to the deal. The problem with the news is it doesnt mention what TMUS, VZ, and DISH get out of it. Why would they let Amazon undercut their own business. It was a very one sided story.

WickedSensitiveCrew

I bought some calls 4 hours ago. Up over 160% on them. It was tough reading through the initial reaction on social media. I saw some comments lumping VZ, T, and TMUS as a "look what happens when you chase dividend yields" when TMUS doesnt even pay a dividend. Im going to buy more before the close and am alright holding through the weekend with them.

WickedSensitiveCrew

I bought some calls 4 hours ago. Up over 80% on them. It was tough reading through the initial reaction on social media. I saw some comments lumping VZ, T, and TMUS as a "look what happens when you chase dividend yeilds" when TMUS doesnt even pay a dividend. Didnt argue and just bought for a swing trade.

drew-gen-x

It will be interesting if too see if this is a continuation of the bull market rally or if this is just an early sign of a market rotation from growth to value. I have no idea. One interesting thing I've noticed is the price action b/w Amazon and $T & $VZ since market open. Sometimes it is better to read the actual news than make trade decisions based on headlines.

Hayden97

Right now I have PFE, IP, VZ, BTI, and C. I bought them all in the past couple of weeks.

the_dalailama134

at least I bought some VZ

irbytay

Amazon doesn't offer cell service, they're getting their feet in the door. Bloomberg has an article you can read. But to sum it up for you. Amazon is in talks w/ cell providers to offer whole sale cell service. VZ has the best network and investments into their network beyond any provider in the industry. It's sill to think anything amazon brands as their own, isn't quality but cheap. VZ isn't a cheap service.

7FigureMarketer

This would be pretty awesome. I'm running 2 lines (AT&T + GoogleFi) and I'd love to ditch AT&T, move the iPhone to AMZN (especially if they got a VZ deal!) and keep my Pixel on GoogleFI. I'm all for this. I guess the question is, can they go full-Costco and get their terms from a major carrier? Should be interesting.

spac420

welp...that would actually explain why Buffet dropped all VZ all of a sudden

the_dalailama134

The story was actually completely incorrect. AMZN and 2 carriers haven said nope not true this morning. I bought VZ on the dip.

the_dalailama134

And in more recent news, nope they're not lol. And I bought a chunk of VZ on the dip.

AmericanSahara

Apparently it's just talk. I don't think it's going to get anywhere unless Amazon caves and does some revenue sharing agreement with TMUS, T and VZ. When Yahoo was a huge web porthole, they made a revenue sharing agreement with the big telecom companies when people were switching from dial-up internet access to "broadband" DSL provided by the wireline phone companies. After the revenue sharing agreement was signed around 2004, Yahoo put a bunch of crap on their news pages making them almost impossible to view with deal-up internet access. Users complained that Yahoo was too slow but the complaints were ignored by everyone. People in the know positioned their investments to make money from growth in telecoms that provide DSL and growth in better web sites such as Google or Facebook. I really doubt Amazon is going to cave and share a big part of their revenue with the big telecoms.

WickedSensitiveCrew

At best it will be a MVNO at worst Amazon is paying TMUS, VZ, and T for subsidized service. I think the market is somehow underestimating the oligopoly because they like AMZN more than the telecoms.

drew-gen-x

I bought AT&T instead. If Amazon is indeed going to offer cell phone service with Amazon Prime, which I have my doubts, than they will take more market share away from the low cost provider $TMUS more than $VZ or $T.

WickedSensitiveCrew

That makes the TMUS, VZ, and T drop an overreaction. Since market tanked those stocks over the story.

joethemaker22

Because Amazon is paying. Which makes the tanking in TMUS and VZ and overreaction. I bought some TMUS shares.

irbytay

Think Amazon and Dish can compete with VZ?? I'll bet on VZ. Sub $34 is a steal and won't last long. Paying \~7.5% annually. Tell me a bank that pays you that??!

WickedSensitiveCrew

AMZN is more popular than TMUS, VZ, and T so I am not even going to try to argue. I will just say no one buys a data plan without knowing the data cap so that is a detail missing from this discussion.

WickedSensitiveCrew

I just looked at TMUS, VZ, and T stocks and wow they are down big on this news while DISH is up. It is so odd we havent even got details. A classic thing these companies do is deprioritize certain customers. They could easily do that to the Prime customers while giving their own customers the better service. But I guess market instead sees this as AMZN taking over the telecom sector.

WickedSensitiveCrew

Why do people do this with big tech stocks? I seen the same happen with Apple credit card. Amazon is likely partnering with T, TMUS, VZ for this to happen. It isnt them taking over a sector.

Eastern-Cranberry84

got VZ in my IRA. down 35% , piece of fukin shit

animositisomina35

VZ and T bagholders are numb to the pain at this point.

Dehydratedgarlic

Fucking VZ. I was looking at it yesterday and my gut said sell all of it because it was up several % over the past few days. I didn't. Why the hell is it down 5+% today?

animositisomina35

Amazon in talks to offer low-cost or free Prime phone service, Bloomberg says Amazon (AMZN) has been talking with Verizon Communications (VZ), T-Mobile US (TMUS) and Dish Network (DISH) to get the lowest possible wholesale prices as it it is considering offering low-cost or possibly free nationwide mobile phone service to Prime subscribers, people familiar with the situation told Bloomberg's Scott Moritz, Matt Day and Spencer Soper. The talks, which have also included AT&T (T) at times, have been going on for six to eight weeks, but the plan may take several more months to launch and could be scrapped, one source reportedly said.

christopherw6569

My main one at the moment is KRE. Got a couple hundred shares around $38 and DCAing around $250 a week. I'll do this until probably $45 share price and then let it ride. I also just added a 100 share starter position in WBA. It's at a double bottom at multi year lows. It's been severely beat down recently due to the opioid payouts causing negative fcf in the last earnings. They have also been seriously restructuring and reducing unnecessary debt while investing in other areas to drive future growth. It's probably a couple year play but it pays a nice dividend in the meantime. Another one is VZ. Again, beat down recently mostly due to the huge amounts of capital they have spent in the last couple years getting 5g up and running. Now that that's behind them the balance sheet will start improving and like WBA, it pays a nice dividend in the meantime. Not sure how I'm going to DCA into the last two yet. I'll probably have to trim a little off my core ETF'S for the time being but I feel like there's a greater opportunity for some quick growth in these value plays at this time.

AbuSaho

Do you not understand the concept of a bundle? The point is you are getting a discount buying buying them together. Like the article says VZ is the first to offer that. AAPL and AMZN dont.

Timmus338

VZ for me, 3 years you’re looking at 22% DIV DRIP return plus they are trading at something like a 5 year low. I can see them them also adding another 20%-30% on their share price. I don’t know about anyone else but I’ll take -50% over 3 years. Currently have about 60k invested in them. I’ve also been DCA and DRIP investing on BLV, EDV and VCLT, -60k combined those are on sale right now but positions are down -20%.

Morgan____Freeman

VZ going up after they lay off India

Eastern-Cranberry84

I bought VZ at the top. been down 30%+ for a while. 1 more year I think and my dividents will cover my losses and I can sell this fucking piece of shit.

drew-gen-x

$VZ and $T are green today. I dumped my Paypal position and moved it into AT&T yesterday. Gold is up about $11 as well. We should see Gold retest $2k this week as long duration US rates over 1 yr are moving lower. I wouldn't be surprised to see a weekly gain for high dividend stocks this week. Surprisingly Intel is up 5% today.

iKadien

[https://youtu.be/VZ-EgXNoQCU](https://youtu.be/VZ-EgXNoQCU)

abgonzo7588

IBM, QCOM, TFC, TGT, VZ, MPW are all dividend stocks im currently buying

Yogurt_over_my_Mouf

I bought VZ at it's high with my IRA. still down 30% years later.

throwawaymyalias

Viacom (now PARA) buying CBS in 1999 for $37 BILLION. Almost 25 years later, PARA's entire market is currently only $9.8B. (The Redstone family is famous for destroying shareholder value.) Also, as already noted, Yahoo not accepting MSFT's $47B buyout offer because it "undervalued" YHOO. Eight years later, YHOO is sold to VZ for 1/10th of what MSFT offered. Jerry Yang is an idiot.

Fit419

SPY, RAD, MMM, OXY, VZ I keep RAD around because I think they’re likely to get acquired

Mammoth-Kitchen-2727

Fair enough, wasn’t trying to be a jerk. VZ seems to have broken its wedge and it’s sitting just above a double bottom. If it bounces, might be a good long term play but it looks like another fall is coming IMO. If it keeps the dividend, it’s a great long term hold but if it falls you’ll need to keep DCAing which can get expensive in the long run

irbytay

Also, I didn't upvote anything. If it is, not sure how or why. Stocks are fun to talk about. I have many other perspectives. VZ I follow closely.

irbytay

KO has a 3.05% annual div yield at $60.40 a share. KO had negative free cash flow of approximately $120 million Q1. Let's hope that turns around. VZ has a 7.47% annual div yield at $34.82 a share. DISH and Amazon impacted their price. VZ has a 7.34% EPS Growth last Q vs a year prior. CALM pays 1/3 of their profits to share holders, not a consistent div but looks worth while. Eggs! I own positions of each of these.

patrickswayzemullet

if you are selling puts, you should welcome down days like today on VZ.

urmyheartBeatStopR

I'm debating on waiting until next week to trade with all the crazy Nvidia stuff. Maybe even after debt ceiling ordeal. What's the pro and con of this? I'm trying to get in on CSP for VZ and have a few in oil and pharma sector now and it seems like it's killing my thesis. So that's the reason why I'm thinking of chilling. Thanks

irbytay

Not too sure, BlackBerry had its day. NVIDIA is something everyone wants to buy. I say be brave and buy stuff that pays consistent dividends and on super sale. VZ is on super sale.

irbytay

Look at VZ, 34.82 a share with a dividend payment of 0.6525 a share. Recent news with Dish has them down. 10 Executives recently picked up some shares. Something to look at!

irbytay

Personally, I see VZ as a steal. Paying a consistent dividend and increasing. Currently it's $0.6525 per share. I'd imagine in 4Q it will be $0.66. At 34.82 a share, you'll collect an annual dividend of 7.47%. Reading in to some recent Form 4's filed by 10 executives, new pricing, exc. VZ's cash flow will not only stay consistent but growing. I think VZ is a great play, esp the lower the cost goes now that people believe DISH and AMZN can compete against VZ.

irbytay

A short is a short. The short squeeze comes from more people buying the security vs selling, and forcing the short sellers into a position to either buy the stock or eat their potential unlimited loss. The % being shorted isn't what you'd use to measure a "short squeeze." You're saying there isn't a large number of shares being shorted. I'm telling you there isn't a logical reason for VZ to be this price. So buy it and cause a short squeeze.

1ess_than_zer0

Damn I love seeing this company being brought up in random subs. I’m a big time backer of this stock (have been for 2 yrs and it hasn’t been the prettiest to date). I believe in the long term goal and the scalability of this technology however. I think it’s been derisked enough over the past 6 months that their IP is worth something so I don’t believe it to be a $0 or moon proposition anymore. It’s going to take some major funding announcements for me to sleep better at night knowing we have runway for a full commercial revenue producing constellation. This is the way the industry is going and it will happen - I just hope ASTS will be the one to lead the charge. Many players will jump on board as the yrs go on and there will be more than enough to go around regardless. I think if you look at the sheer numbers of what even just a domestic (I live in US) carrier spends every year on CAPEX it’s insane ($24B for ATT, $20B for VZ). I understand that goes into a lot of buckets but even still a big chunk is just for new towers/base stations in not very populated areas where ROI is nonexistent. If that money was diverted to satellite production and launches to cover the same areas? It just makes financial sense. And that’s 1 carrier in 1 country. We’re talking about these satellites covering the worlds population and what kind of innovation will come from that. It’s truly mind boggling. You’re going to see ridiculous margins once everything is up and running. I’m happy to keep loading up in the $5s. I don’t think we’ll see major moves until some revenue starts coming in (so probably a little over a yr from now if everything goes as planned).

Friendship4Every1

Just bought some VZ shares cuz I like boomer dividends… 

Morgan____Freeman

VZ calls for the impending debt ceiling negotiations last minute and the massive Layoffs for useless employees in customer service. A bunch of people In India. See you on the moon

ThePandaRider

I am holding it long-term but I am down on it. I need to review it with T, VZ, and TMUS as a set. If TMUS is still on track to eat market share them there isn't much of a point in buying VZ and T at this point.

irbytay

Todays low is $34.80. At that price you lock in a 7.47% annual return in dividend payments. $VZ - Supply and demand at its best.

QIKING99

What do you guys think about VZ?

Eastern-Cranberry84

I bought VZ in my IRA , down 36% so far LOL

Minimum-Ad-2026

Safe shit that's down and nice dividend, diversified. WBA, VZ, IBM, T, USB, ENB, BGS, LEVI, CVS, TSN, WFC, F Meh, or just dump it into Nvidia like the other regards.

Eastern-Cranberry84

I bought VZ shares in my boom account back when Buffett was endorsing it. down 36% LOL I got another 1 or 2 years before the dividents cover the loss.

SnS2500

There is no relationship to big tech doing well and SCHD's secret sauce spitting out VZ, AMGN, CVX, HD and other stiffs. It may do fine next time around, but its choices have done badly underperformed VOO ytd, -1.6% to +9.3%.

crazier_ed

How many people died on B. ahkmut, sacrificed on the altar of the egos of VP and VZ on a not very significant town ... 

semicoloradonative

A more sustainable dividend would come from a company like VZ than F. VZ is now more like a utility. Disclaimer - I actually closed my position with VZ this week.

mike6612251

Let me know what you think. What should I buy or sell. AMZN 9.28 AMC 0.58 AAPL 25.68 XOM 9.71 FDX 16.43 F 13.01 GME 0.34 SIRI 0.35 VYM 4.25 VZ 16.72 WMT 0.67

Acceptable_Stay_3395

As a former buy and hold investor the only thing I would hold forever is SPY/VOO. I’ve been burned many times by investing in “fool proof companies”, collecting dividends only to see the companies crash back down to earth. DIS, NKE, GE, T, VZ, etc. The only company I’ve been holding long term is AAPL. It’s good that Buffet likes to hold forever or say so but even he realizes there are times when you should sell. My goal is to make money. I can’t tell you whether CVX for instance will still be around in 20-30 years. I can tell you that they will be around next week and next month. For that reason I trade options on it (more specifically short). I’ve been pocketing nice steady gains, beating the index by a nice margin while doing so. 0.5-1.5% a week is my goal. In the meantime I can do spreads to minimize losses. When I sell a bull put spread I’m protected in three ways, a lower entry point, the net credit (which if the spread expires worthless amounts to 20-80% annualized), and the long put. Simply put this beats any buy and hold strategy.

NCC-1701B

thinking about a savings accounting VZ..7% dividend..can it go wrong?

Western_Effective900

If you want to be fairly safe investment (as you seem to not want major market swings) invest in low PE stocks with a good dividend. Like VZ or T. They aren’t sexy and may trail the market in terms of returns, but you will make more return than a CD with possible capital appreciation.

pinetree64

Depends on options volume and premium. I sell 1 to 6 weeks. A few a little longer: O, T, VZ, RF.

ShadowLiberal

The only loser I haven't sold is VZ which I'm still down 33% on, but I started buying that in 2019 and kept buying it up to 2021.

99_Gretzky

DIS and VZ. Holding tight. Both will recover, but long way down the road. I’ll sell Disney for a small loss if they bring their dividend back soon.

ch4m4njheenga

Don’t have order dates handy, but I have PLTR, FSLY, TGT, VZ and GOOG in that category. First two I rode the wave but did not have an exit strategy. Other three, it seems I got caught at the top. Still haven’t sold them.

rapid_thinker

VZ

Eastern-Cranberry84

looks at my ADBE and VZ I bought at the top. yep.

jeff_varszegi

A lot of these are *excellent* picks to make in case of a market crash. Imagine buying DUK, KO and PG at 2009 levels--they're forever holds at those prices. LMT would be a high-yield dream. In terms of places in a portfolio if buying at current prices, there are many I'd skip on the basis of high price / low yield. And there are some I'd just skip permanently regardless, based on long-term risk, e.g. STX, T, VZ. Thanks for sharing!

Rare-ish_Bird

Could I interest you in some T or VZ as well?

isaacbunny

That was my thought and why I originally picked them up. Now here I am 30% in the red. Maybe my VZ and MMM plays are doing better. Lemme check…

The0Walrus

SCHD, VOO, SBUX, LLY, V, MA.... They grow their dividends by a huge % annually. I'm more into dividend growth rather than those high yielding dividends. It totally depends what you want. If you want high dividend with almost no growth VZ, T, MO, TROW, so on...

m7meaningless

Comparing investing in dividend stocks to renting individual homes is like comparing investing in dividend stocks to owning a corner store. Individual home-renting is a hobby business. In our neighborhood, the typical home occupies a quarter or less of the usable land, so you're paying for all that land and getting nothing in return, plus you're dependent on a single tenant, plus you have zero scale for maintenance and appliances. The sensible way to invest in property is multi-unit buildings that utilize the entire property - like a 12+ unit building. Eliminates dependence on a single or a few tenants, utilizes land far more efficiently, and provides some modest scale when dealing with repairs, maintenance and the necessary upgrades. A realistic average estimate of dividend yield is about 3% annually. Any higher and you're risking getting into ponzi schemes (like some REITs) or declining companies, both of which put your principle at risk. T and VZ both took major hits to stock price this year. Real estate has very little principle risk.

m7meaningless

> LLY That was a great buy but most stocks yielding 6% are going the other way. Hi yield stocks almost always loose principle, as ATT and VZ investors have found recently. I don't know the investment thesis behind LLY right now but the yield is down to 1.5% and the PE is at 68. The stock has gained 25% in the last 3 months. I'm holding MRK, which I bought a few years ago, just for the 4% yield when it seemed like lots of stocks were starting to tank. I did not expect fortune to smile on me the way it has. But I don't expect it to last.

ladyboy13

I only like VZ and Toyota from the list. For retirement I’d stick to etfs like VOO, QQQ, JEPI, XLP, SCHD + GOGL.

shawman123

Horrible company. I would not own the stock. VZ or TMUS is better at that sector. If you are not sure just invest in a Vanguard ETF. That is the best way to go.

gettendies

It's actually had 2 quarters of declining growth. They are still good companies but then you enter the realm of cash cows like VZ etc with 8-12 PEs. If the big boys decide yeah the growth story is pver..... expect a haircut.

PapaCharlie9

I can make some suggestions, but you'll have to take some gatekeeping along with those suggestions. I'll put the gatekeeping at the end. Forget about monthly. Almost nothing except REITS, bond and preferred stock funds pay monthly. 6% yield is going to be tough. That's putting you into REITS and MLP land, each of which has a bucket full of problems. One of the best dividend stocks to wheel is ABBV, but it only has 3.2% yield, because the share price is super high. And that's another thing about 6% yield. That could be from a company whose free cash flow would normally only merit 1% yield, but because the share price has tanked, the yield is artificially above 6%. KSS is an excellent example of this effect. The yield is 9.81%, but only because the stock has tanked from the 40s to the 20s. NWL another, with 8.92% yield but the stock has been in a downtrend for a solid year. A bunch of regional banks, like WASH, are also the same pattern. High yield, tanking stock. Despite all that, here are a few suggestions, but each has some kind of problem. Like the first one, MO, is a sin stock. Again, none of these pay monthly. MO, CMA, DVN, VZ, XRX, T How did I come up with these? I used a yield screener for stocks between 6% and 10% yield and then looked for ones that had options and, ideally, not a year-long bear downtrend in share price, but some are still struggling, like XRX. And now the gatekeeping sermon. 1. There's no reason to prefer dividends. You would be better off Wheeling quality stocks regardless of whether they pay a dividend or not. You can always sell appreciated shares to make up for a lack of dividends, and if you hold them for more than a year before selling, you get better tax treatment than dividends would. 1. MLPs incur many tax-time headaches, like K-1 filing. There was just a guy on here posting about how he is still waiting for the K-1s on his MLP shares, which means he routinely is unable to file has taxes by April 15. 1. REITS behave like bonds, so for as long as interest rates keep going up, REITS share price will go down. They also used to have nasty extra taxes, but that got fixed by the IRS recently. Plus there's a lot of bad commercial real estate debt and commercial real estate is kind of having a pre-catastrophe moment, with unprecedentedly high vacancies. So if you insist on going REITS, be very selective in what the REITS hold.

PreviousFuel8980

The whole telecom sector is basically trash these days. T and VZ are treading water, probably a breakeven after dividends unless you've held for a long time. T-mobile had a good run but who knows how much more grown they can squeeze out of the market. I think t-mobile is headed for the same fate as T and VZ in due time - flat growth. The only growth in telecom is in the very cutting edge stuff like constellations, laser communications, and other niche sectors like that.

follow-spy1

I have a phone line with VZ but I think Im gonna get a second line with T-Mobile cheap. The Do not disturb feature doesnt really work on iPhones. I really dont want to be bothered with so many calls and texts after 6PM. Just need access to audible and spotify after 6PM with T-mobile line.

creemeeseason

Abbvie had some issues with humera, their blockbuster drug. VZ...no growth, big dividend. Meh. AT&T...same Pfizer...I dunno. Probably over earned during covid. Meh. XOM- love the energy space. I don't think it's a terrible play. Right near an ATH.

TheOtherPete

So you think VZ is a shortsqueeze candidate? It seems like this account, Otherwise_Plum9333, does nothing but post articles, never any follow-up discussion/replies. So either a bot or some sort of karma-farming

stonks_better

Wtf happened to VZ

WickedSensitiveCrew

TMUS reports after the bell. Will give the answer to if T and VZ issues are company specific or sector specific. TMUS is only out of three that dont pay a dividend so they dont get mentioned as much despite imo growing the most and having the most upside.

SeaofSounds

Looks like VZ misses revenue, meets eps......

AP9384629344432

Does anyone know what proportion of the S&P's market cap will be reporting this week in total? I know 180 companies out of 500 will report. But with huge corporations like KO, MCD, MA, VZ, CAT, INTC, XOM, CVX, ... in addition to those OP named, that's gotta be a lot higher than 20%. [Nice visual of the earnings](https://i.imgur.com/bF6gH4h.png here)/