VZ

greenpride32

The main US traded Australia ETF is "only" up 1.5% over a 1 year period - I'd hardly call that shining. The article mentions a couple of stocks that are up a good percentage - that's not the same as "Australia's stocks". One of those stocks is Telstra which is their big telecom giant. But even VZ and T are up this year because it's considered more safe haven / defensive. Very misleading title and article...

DharmaBum61

I’ve owned some APPL for probably eight years, AMZN for 5-6, and VZ for about five.

rackoblack

I've been investing in majority index funds but some individual holdings for 30 years now because I enjoy the work the latter takes. I initially started buying stocks as a way to learn the markets and finance better and it turns out I enjoyed it and did well with it. But you're right, strictly index investing is the safer bet. But I like the added risk. For me, value was key. Doesn't matter how great a product or company is, if the share price is overvalued it's not a buy. To determine the value, I trust in analyst ratings, and very heavily weight the Morningstar rating for a holding in my decisions. Dividend payers was my second criteria, and especially now that we're retired. My top ten holdings follow. If I remove AMZN and GOOG from the mix, my other 22 holdings earn about 6.2% dividends, much more if I calculate yield on cost. I'm sitting on 30% gains, double that in my taxable brokerage which I'm selling down in retirement at 0% LTCG before our social security and RMDs kick in and income goes back up. ET O AMZN BTI EPD PM VZ PFE GSK

DoubleFamous5751

VZ is a 100% a buy here

Siks10

VZ, T, AES, D, BRK.B, KO, C, etc.

IAMSXD

You’re thinking about this the right way, its just that your inputs are off: (1) VZ does not have daily expires, just weekly. (2) You may not get $0.11 bids on the 95% puts. Let’s say you can sell the 7-day 95% put for $0.03. Then everything you said is fine, just different actual numbers. And you have to think about the likelihood of VZ moving 5% in a week versus in a day. If you wait till Friday to sell the 1-day option, I suspect the market will be $0.00 - $0.01.

DC9B717Captain

VZ trades everyday business day, as do all options, but does not have daily expirations i.e. Mon, Tues, Wed, Thur, Fri. like SPY and SPX. VZ has weekly options expiring on Fridays up to 5 weeks out. Then monthly after that. So, if you buy or sell options tomorrow (May 5) it will have to be the Fri. May 9 contracts. Or the 16th, 23rd, etc. As another responder said the premiums on 5% OTM puts and calls are very small, $.02-.03. To get anywhere near your $0.11 you have to go out to the May 23 expirations. Note also that the volume and open interest on VZ options are very low, in the single and double digits and, in many cases 0. It would appear to me that you need a little more knowledge on what options are and how they work. Any number of books and websites are available to you. Start with the links on this subreddit's "Useful Information" guide to start you learning journey.

need2sleep-later

I don't know of any stock/equity (e.g., VZ) that have options with an expiry every day. There are some ETFs (e.g., SPY, QQQ, etc.) that do. Time to rethink.

VegaStoleYourTendies

I'm not sure where you got your $0.11 number from, but the 5% OTM short puts in VZ have bids of $0.02-0.03, and that's on 5 DTE

DoubleFamous5751

Not having a telecom name like T or VZ in your long term account  they print money, pay dividends and connectivity is only continuing

lessgooooo000

imagine struggling every day to do DD, scouring over information and going balls deep on huge options plays, just to get outdone by boomers up 8% YTD who held their VZ dividend stock and got an extra 6% div yield to buy a new Traeger grill and an Xbox for the grandkids

robotlasagna

And yet China has signaled that they are willing to talk. This is not coming from our administration, its coming from them. I am long GOOG, NVDA, BRK.B, CB. VZ. If you think I am really wrong then go short against my positions.

minnesota420

E – EL (Estee Lauder Companies Inc.) Criticized for animal testing in certain markets due to regulatory requirements. V – VZ (Verizon Communications Inc.) Known for privacy concerns and lobbying against net neutrality. I – INTC (Intel Corporation) Faced lawsuits over anti-competitive practices and data vulnerabilities. L – LLY (Eli Lilly and Company) Under fire for insulin pricing and pharma lobbying influence.

chris1876Jp

Pump TMUS & VZ

Carrera_996

My Ford stock has literally paid for itself twice over in dividends. You couldn't get me to sell it at any fucking price. I buy other dividend shit like ATT and VZ, just to pretend to be diverse, but I love Ford. Please disregard that I actually drive Porsches. Unrelated.

chris1876Jp

VZ pump this wk

manassassinman

Tmus has an EV of 400B. VZ and T are at 350B. I’ve looked at them all, and I can’t really see a difference in the business offerings. I’d probably go with Verizon as they have more leverage compared to equity.

chris1876Jp

VZ better 🚀🚀 this wk

THEVICTIM_

I’ve got VZ and T leaps. They move together with the telecom sector. I think a rising tide in telecoms will lift all their boats. Mine are for January 26 so I guess a longer time frame than you’re looking at but I think it will continue to hold up well or rise

Siks10

I didn't read all of that but VZ will do better than most companies over the next year or few years. It's a solid defensive stock I hold shares, short puts, and short calls. Please short it more so I can get higher premiums for my short puts

GargantuasGoose

Because look what happened to Verizon. TMUS is better positioned than VZ but is trading at a high PE relative to peers, if its shows weak outlook or challenges ahead it could very well tank. The option interest is also bearish.

blalah

Puts on VZ or T

Unlikely-Wall-1513

Yes you are, wrong on VZ, wrong on ENPH wrong on MMM and countless others. You said "your bot is the best", but you are not the best

ToughReasonable2497

Any obvious earning plays tomorrow? Aiming for AT&T and guessing that it will have the same fate as VZ (which fked me very hard with its bear trap)

Unlikely-Wall-1513

You were way wrong on VZ

noplanman_srslynone

Is VZ just gonna end completely flat to the penny? Would be the most amazing theta ever

noplanman_srslynone

HAL at 05/2021 prices? jeez GE did ok today VZ didn't then went right back up to even... Crazy days

iano_

Damn. Should've avgd down on those VZ calls this morning...

fatfathaha

Bless you. I got some for Sep expiry, was shocked when VZ dragged T down earlier today.

ToughReasonable2497

Already lost 200 bucks on my regarded VZ calls … I hate myself jeez

greenpride32

Take a look at TMUS stock chart compared to VZ and T for the past 10 years. What do you see? TMUS took market share over the course of several years because they were the cheaper alternative. But it didn't happen overnight, or wasn't a single event that had the masses moving. You are correct that "some" amount of people might shift, but it's not a material number that will be impact companies that have well over $100b annual revenue.

DoubleFamous5751

VZ beats for the quarter, says they are confident in hitting their 2025 guidance and it down almost 5% 

cmatos72

don't necessarily agree with this statement. recessions make people reassess their spending, especially if they are directly affected (loss of job). I switched away from VZ a while back, but had I not, I would most definitely consider it during a down turn. For internet service, always shop around. Prices fluctuate, even within the same company. spectrum will change its offerings, usually more bandwidth for less cost, but contracted or existing clients won't hear about it unless they call them and ask.

CommanderLeona

Split my plays yesterday between GE and VZ calls, so based on premarket, I will net $0 today 🥳

greenpride32

Cell phone has replaced land lines - it's a necessity in modern life. Who exactly is canceling their service? If pepole wanted cheaper alternatives to VZ, they would have ported long ago - they wouldn't have waited for some "economic downturn" to take such an action. Same with internet.

Contrarian_1

Welp, the Nasdaq is officially in a bear market Earnings this morning: $GE & $PHM good, $VZ & $KMB bad

QanonQuinoa

VZ dropping?! It’s cuz I bought it guys sorry.

ZealousidealSector19

VZ no one likes your new phone plans lolz

CommanderLeona

Alright guys be honest, how regarded of an idea was it to get VZ and GE calls. Like nobody even uses verizon, I was just following call volume spikes 

PutzOnDonleon

Have a ton of T puts that are already itm hoping VZ says tariffs are fucking everything up in the am and both drill to the core of the earth

noplanman_srslynone

I agree. Feel good news story about VZ probably and some pump. Trouble is IV would kill me to buy back poots so riding this out.

KnewTwoDiss

!banbet VZ 45 4d

dabears4hss

For reference ( mods feel free to delete as appropriate ) **1. Brief Recap: Current Juncture** The market is processing the twin shocks of broad US tariff implementations and a hawkish Federal Reserve pivot. Recent weeks saw significant volatility, defensive shifts in positioning, and a sharp rise in economic uncertainty. While a partial tariff pause offered temporary relief, the fundamental concerns about policy direction and its economic impact linger. Key forward-looking indicators have weakened notably, even as some backward-looking data remained firm. The stage is set for a period where markets assess whether these policy shifts will indeed translate into the anticipated economic slowdown. **2. Short-Term Outlook (Next Week to 10 Days: \~April 21 - April 30)** * **Dominant Driver: Q1 Earnings Peak:** Focus remains squarely on earnings reports next week (VZ, TSLA, META, GOOGL, MSFT, AMZN, etc.). Guidance will be critical for assessing initial tariff impacts, margin pressures, and forward visibility. Tech/Mega-Cap results are key sentiment drivers. Expect high single-stock volatility. * **Key Economic Data:** April Flash PMIs (Wed) provide the first major post-tariff activity snapshot. Final April Michigan Sentiment (Fri) updates consumer mood. Secondary data includes Leading Index (Mon), New Home Sales (Wed), Durable Goods (Thurs). * **Policy Headlines:** IMF/World Bank meetings (Apr 21-26) may yield trade talk headlines. Fed quiet period likely. * **Market Dynamics - Flows, Positioning & Volatility:** * **Fund Flows (Week ending Apr 16):** Recent data showed muted global equity inflows, US equity outflows (driven domestically), strong European inflows, large bond outflows (credit-led), and robust gold/MMF inflows. Institutional/HF selling contrasted with private client buying. Watch next week's data for trend continuation. * **Futures Positioning (Mid-April CFTC):** Leveraged Funds held/increased net short equity futures positioning; Asset Manager positioning mixed. Watch for shifts post-tariff-pause/Powell comments. * **Volatility (Vols):** VIX near 30 remains elevated despite pulling back from peaks. The inverted futures curve signals near-term anxiety. Post-April 18th options expiry removes potential gamma pinning. Some interest noted in dispersion trades. Vol remains sensitive to earnings/headlines. * **Systematic Flows (CTAs):** Likely reduced leverage on vol spike. Models suggest potential to *gradually increase short equity exposure* if negative price trends persist alongside easing volatility. Key positions include short USD/Aluminum (stretched levels raise unwind risk) and long Gold. * **Market Tone:** Expect continued caution, headline sensitivity, and potentially challenged liquidity. Defensive posturing likely persists. Earnings guidance is key to short-term stability.

Anonymustafar

Anyone playing VZ earnings

jayxmor

What strike price for VZ?

JuchOfEden

today my bets are VZ CALLS RTX PUTS MMM PUTS DHR calls GE calls

cuntysometimes

Whole hell of a lot of OI on VZ. Weeklies too

PooPooPointBoiz

Tell me why these plays wouldn't work out. Verizon puts Monday before close - VZ is getting booted from the FAA contract because Corrupt Musk is gutting the fed and giving himself and his companies various contracts. Tesla puts Tuesday before close - Tesla has sucked ass this past 4 months. Q1 deliveries are down. Elon is seen as a corrupt non-elected government official, killing off people's livelihoods. The model 2 budget EV is delayed yet again. And the Cyber truck sucks ass. It's going to be a blood bath Alaskan Airline or American Airline or Southwest puts before close on Wednesday - all airline companies have been hit hard with this US boycott. I've seen on the pilot FB groups I'm a part of that airlines aren't hiring this year because they just have too many pilots for too few flights. And maybe on Thursday before close - GOOGL/GOOG calls beacause it's fuckin google and they've been getting their ass kicked the past 3 months. Surely it's oversold and is poised for a rebound. Any thoughts about why I'm retarded and this won't work?

F1CKEN

Yes it can. Look at ATT and VZ and vodaphone test videos. Beta service soon.

ProgrammaticallyHip

Yes, they are safer in a recession. But ASTS is down 11% in a month and VZ/T/AMT were down 6.5, 5.5% and 5% at one point respectively during this recent volatility. Those stocks (sans ASTS) are definitely more resilient but don’t kid yourself — each of them could take a steep haircut if we get a nasty bear market. And ASTS would likely get crushed.

Ashleynn

MNO's and things related to them are considered safe havens for a reason. VZ, T, and AMT haven't avoided the majority of the volatility over the last month for no reason. ASTS has managed to remain fairly stable in that time as well. Even in a rescission people are going to pay for their cell phones. It's one of the few things that will more than likely keep getting their money no matter how bad things get. If things do get bad enough that people stop paying for their phones, we have much, much bigger issues than any stock price.

F1CKEN

They have access to 3billion customers that turn on instantly. The tech has been signed off by ATT and VZ and Firstnet and Vodafone and the US government.

Father_of_Lies666

Brother, not all satellite companies have failed. Just most. If you don’t think SIRI, T, and VZ are satellite companies, you’re wrong.

hotjoyboy10

Can’t fire him legally ! But if he tries ; suggest you put 60% in money market paying 4.2% and rest in CD OR T OR VZ OR JNJ OR MO OR KO ALL PAYING HUGE DIVIDENDS ! Do it Monday !!

AJ_Grey

If you want dividends you can get VZ for the 6% yield or NKE or even INTC and you're getting DJIA stocks in that lot. Cut your losses and move on.

dark_bravery

you were supposed to buy them 6-9 months before right now. they are: T, VZ, MO and others like this, utilities etc. look at any of them, the prices already ran up from the sharps. now those sharps will be very happy to sell them to you, at their peaks as the sharps start swapping from growth stocks at the lows we're in. you are literally 6 months out of phase with the market, along with all the people telling you which recession stocks to buy, exactly where the market wants retail.

Usykgoat62

I have a long term vision with no plans to sell anything. Buying and holding only. Here’s my portfolio: BB: -28.32% PYPL: -9.63% AMZN: -8.86% PEP: -7.17% LYFT: -4.56% INTC: -3.11% F: -1.77% UBER: +3.55% VZ: +3.98% AXP: +6.14% TKO: +102% Would love to hear your thoughts, feedback, and critiques!

chris1876Jp

VZ just die already!!!!

ivityCreations

Im just wondering when USD will be measured in wow gold similar to a VZ currency

bweiner89

VZ

DSCN__034

Using a real world example, this would not make sense. Take VZ and run the example. You would spend about $260 buying the out debit spread at 32 DTE. If VX goes up $4, your gains would be $400--260. If VZ goes down $4, your losses would still be over $400 because you had to pay for the put debit spread. I don't get how this makes any sense.

Siks10

Utilities, telecom, value stocks (low P/E), and select international (Brazil, Latin American, Europe, China) Examples that I hold: AES, D, VZ, T, ILF, FEZ, FXI

Certain_Attitude_886

They do $3b in rev and have a backlog of $50b. Value play, would put it up there with T and VZ. Stable fcfs with minimal growth

Siks10

Divvy it up 50/50 between VZ and AES for the next 1-5 years, then jump on whatever growth stock is popular If you hadn't said "invest", it would be playing TQQQ/SQQQ on a daily basis making a grand a week until I'm totally bag holding one of them

hahahypno

KO 12.5% up, MCD 9.3% up, PG 7.8% up, JNJ 4.2% up, VZ 2.1% up, CL 6.5% up, GIS 3.7% up, YUM 5.4% up, NEE 1.9% up, and DUK 2.7% Not all, but the best performance when everything else was nuked.

Siks10

Plus VZ goes up when Mag7 goes down

hilltoperch

Why so much in VZ?

Siks10

There are ways to make decent money regardless in which direction we're heading. You expressed not wanting to be too engaged so the pick for you might be to put all in BRK.B and let Warren Buffet figure out what's best If you want to put in a little bit more work, get 5% FEZ, 5% ILF, 5% VZ, 10% BRK.B, and 75% HYSA More risk/reward: Get 30% VZ, 20% AES, 10% FEZ, 10% ILF, 10% BRK.B, and 20% HYSA Revisit your portfolio and rebalance (or rotate into growth) if needed every 6 months

jamiestar9

Sell the TSLA. Buy and hold (and accumulate) a high dividend telecom like VZ. Slowly get back to $7k. People pay their cell phone bills during a recession.

hahahypno

|| || |KO|Coca-Cola Co|\+12.5%| || || |MCD|McDonald's Corp|\+9.3%| || || |PG|Procter & Gamble Co.|\+7.8%| || || |JNJ|Johnson & Johnson|\+4.2%| || || |VZ|Verizon Communications Inc|\+2.1%| || || |CL|Colgate-Palmolive Co.|\+6.5%| || || |GIS|General Mills, Inc.|\+3.7%| || || |YUM|Yum Brands Inc.|\+5.4%| || || |NEE|NextEra Energy Inc|\+1.9%| || || |DUK|Duke Energy Corp.|\+2.7%| As soon as he who shall not be named says the 90 days thing is bullshit these are the ones that are going to shoot up. Now the gamble is when does he say it because until then it's volatile.

hahahypno

|| || |KO|Coca-Cola Co|\+12.5%| || || |MCD|McDonald's Corp|\+9.3%| || || |PG|Procter & Gamble Co.|\+7.8%| || || |JNJ|Johnson & Johnson|\+4.2%| || || |VZ|Verizon Communications Inc|\+2.1%| || || |CL|Colgate-Palmolive Co.|\+6.5%| || || |GIS|General Mills, Inc.|\+3.7%| || || |YUM|Yum Brands Inc.|\+5.4%| || || |NEE|NextEra Energy Inc|\+1.9%| || || |DUK|Duke Energy Corp.|\+2.7%| As soon as Trump says the 90 days thing is bullshit these are the ones that are going to shoot up. Now the gamble is when does he say it because until then it's volatile.

hahahypno

|| || |KO|Coca-Cola Co|\+12.5%| || || |MCD|McDonald's Corp|\+9.3%| || || |PG|Procter & Gamble Co.|\+7.8%| || || |JNJ|Johnson & Johnson|\+4.2%| || || |VZ|Verizon Communications Inc|\+2.1%| || || |CL|Colgate-Palmolive Co.|\+6.5%| || || |GIS|General Mills, Inc.|\+3.7%| || || |YUM|Yum Brands Inc.|\+5.4%| || || |NEE|NextEra Energy Inc|\+1.9%| || || |DUK|Duke Energy Corp.|\+2.7%| As soon as Trump says the 90 days thing is bullshit these are the ones that are going to shoot up. Now the gamble is when does he say it because until then it's volatile.

National-Net-6831

Remember everyone hating on VZ? Those owners are smiling now

Calm-Preparation2563

Look into T , VZ, F, AMD, QQQ, SPY, RDFN, WBA, WMT, KO, etc these cheapppies contracts 🔥 got a options gc free and paid im in (not the owner) we be sending contracts and tips etccc ask about lin k

karmacretin

VZ 4/11 $40P, blown out

Suavecore_

I'm doing puts because the trade war is going to do damage and provide volatility for interesting movements like you've seen already, but I just do SPY. Easier to make sense of compared to a company like VZ and their chart. If I was buying calls I'd go long-dated very common household names (like VZ but not a phone/internet provider) like WMT or COST, maybe something that has to do with the military or associated industries if you can figure that one out. In order to not lose your lucky gains (since these are all just bets), buy dates far away and a strike price close to the current price. Set a stop loss if you're smart and reshuffle as your wins/losses play out sooner than you might expect. The far-expiration date is there so you don't lose money as fast, obviously. 20% up or down is a good limit, greed is what will kill you. And just because you have a call/put for 3 months out and the next day you're up 20% already, might be a good idea to sell rather than waiting for it to hit 50%+, especially due to theta decay. Good luck

Suavecore_

I'd rather do WMT but I would wait a month before making that decision. VZ doesn't look enticing at all

glassman0918

VZ call long term. Thoughts? Recommended strike price and duration?

filbo132

VZ most likely went down because every single etf (especially the dividend paying ones) were dropping. I mean SCHD which is usually a safe haven for moments like these dropped 4% in one day recently, that means people are just selling anything they have regardless.

drjd2020

VZ

Kitchen-Writing-11

If this BLACK SWAN (should have seen it coming) didn't WIPE YOU OUT, What are buying when SANITY RESUMES? Suggestions wanted. I sold some losers to 2026 tax loss, bought some VZ, and T for upcoming dividends... but looking for Killer Entries. Eye on INTC long term in their potential deal with Taiwan Semi.

drjd2020

VZ went up yesterday. I think people are looking at essential services and businesses that don't heavily rely on imports, that could be partially immune from recession and have good fundamentals. I guess it's back to value investing...

ThickerSalmon14

Ok. Then why did everything go down today at least 5%? Hell, VZ went down and that is a telecom company inside the US that would have only limited impact from the Tariffs. The GOP like Scott only seem to have spin and I'm not sure if many of them have values.

mytummylovesheineken

You can't time the market. But I'm trying to time the market. Sold everything but VZ last month. I have no idea when to buy back in.

DoubleFamous5751

Every stock? PM, T, VZ, JNJ and many others would like to have a word

DegreeConscious9628

VZ, T, and t mobile (whatever the ticker is) is up today But anyways, thanks for the heads up about insurance companies. I will def take a look

Candlelight_Fant4sia

Definitely VZ and other reliable, dividend paying stocks.

Common_Composer6561

I'm going in on ENGIY, BTI, GASNY and some VZ boiiiii

bigmeatbag

All you need is T and VZ, phone companies are recession proof, even the poorest have a cell phone and even during an apocalypse people gonna be trying to call someone

Candlelight_Fant4sia

VZ

MasterCrumb

A diversity of things - TSLA puts, KO, KHC, VZ are all positives.

Sweet_Sea3871

VZ also. Isn’t that a negative beta?

143Brady

this is why we own MCD and VZ

filbo132

Right now, the tariffs are just dragging everything down except maybe safe haven stocks like VZ for example (YTD up by 11%).

Siks10

I hold VZ and know premiums suck. Don't let that fool you to sell calls that far out. It's a long tedious wait where your capital is locked. Sell 30-90 days out instead. You'll be much happier and probably richer too

dmw_qqqq

Why MSFT? If you have to invest now, I think stocks like VZ, PFE are safer n' better ones. Just look at their juicy dividends. Personally I am holding cash.

HND171

Ehh, utilities, financial services, gold, silver is climbing from a heavy dip/shorting… VZ/T

Siks10

Not really. They are trading at pretty high PE. Look at VZ, T, AES, D, BRK.B, PFE as examples

Siks10

Buy for instance AES, T, VZ, C, D, BRK.B now. These are not falling. Wait to buy growth stocks until they solidly start going up again

No_Cow_8702

Because $T and $VZ are defensive stocks. They pay high dividends, and telecommunications is not going away. Same story with utilities, healthcare, and consumer staples/defensive.