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Biggest hit - FBTC. Biggest winner - SOXQ
Puts on IBIT. Excellent liquidity. FBTC has better correlation but low volume except during big moves.
If this was my first 10k, I would buy - $4500 VOO - $3000 QQQ - $1500 GLDM - cycle this into the above once the presidency becomes boring again - $1000 FBTC - most probably will disagree but I think there’s tremendous upside to both the tech and the price Glhf
Just use the no internal sp500 and international funds. Not a bad idea to have some early (you’re young) exposure to favorite blue chips (TSLA AAPL NVDA META). Just don’t panic sell or market time. I doubt they allow FBTC in those, a little buy and hold in that would be nice. I guess you could a little in a regular Ira. It shouldn’t be a significant allocation anyways. Be sure to invest auto and weekly in a taxable also. Maybe find a trustworthy pro to guide you through it. Talk to the Fidelity advisors. They are nice (probably too nice for my liking). Sounds like you will do great. You likely make too much for Roth if you’re maxing like that. Best of luck!!
100% gain on FBTC calls. Not too shabby.
This is the top post on r/Bitcoin right now: “Hi, I have $800K in my 401k, 52M in Midwest. Should I just dump it all in FBTC?” Looks like the bubble has more room to pop, boys.
50% of my Roth is in FBTC, a cryptocurrency created by a mysterious man some 20 years ago. Suffice to say, today was not a good day.
What does this mean? I said I have $10K in Bitcoin (specifically FBTC).
If Iran gets hit this weekend, my FBTC 57p gonna print when they sell all their btc to fund a response. Right?
Anyone's portfolio down for the last 30 days? 75% ETFs: FZILX, FSELX, FZILX, FZROX. 20% Mag 7/"safe" stocks: GOOG, NDVA. AMZN, NFLX 5% funny money: FSAGX, XME, MU, FBTC. Should I better diversify?
It’s gross. Next cycle i’m buying FBTC fuck it. The ER is less than the fees with buying/selling.
Trying to diversify and learn more about investing in general for long term success. Below is what i am holding right now. about 100k. looking into adding maybe looked into RTX and ASTS but being more conservative I also like SMH . Will make an effort to jump on here daily to learn with you all! VUG 40% VOO 40% TSLA 5% AAPL 5% AMZN 4% FBTC 2% LFMD 1%
Hey fam! Sorry in advance for the long post. Last month my wife and I had our firstborn, and friends and family gifted him some cash. Growing up, my parents were new to this country from a third world country working hard and using every penny to put food on our table and keep a roof over our head, and they never thought to open some sort of savings account for my sister and I. All our gift money was sort of put in a “piggy bank” and over time used for necessary expenses. I had decided a while back that I am going to do something different for my kids and set them up for financial success, and have something built up for them in case they want to buy a house or a car or even pay for school when time comes. I didn’t like the idea of a 529 plan since the funds have to be used for educational expenses. Instead, I decided to open a UTMA account through Fidelity and invest the money. This is basically a long term investment, at least 18 years if not more. As of now, with my very limited knowledge and experience with the stock market & investing, here is a breakdown of the portfolio: 60% - VOO 15% - VXF 10% - VXUS 3% - FBTC 2.5% - AAPL 2% - MSFT 2% - GOOGL 2% - V 2% - COST 1.5% - NVDA I would love to get some feedback if what I did was smart, or what any of you might have done different for your child? I just based these investments on somewhat of a safety net + what I believe in! There is currently $2500 invested with the breakdown I gave (down to about $2437 this last couple says) and my wife and I will be depositing $500 into this account monthly at least until he turns 1 and God willing longer than that, and all his gift money will go into this as well. And like I said, I don’t have too much knowledge about any of this and am new to investing myself. Thanks in advance!
sticking by it would be buying puts on FBTC
Meh, we’ve seen worse. It’s not the bullshit liberation day, now THAT sucked. I will say I’ve grown tired of Bitcoin, it’s a volatile little bitch. Thinking of selling FBTC in the Roth, once it inevitably goes back up… eventually.
which is stupid since something like FBTC is available too
Should’ve sold my fucking FBTC lol at least I don’t have much in it
Y, for once, I didn't get caught holding bags with my pants down. The other hot potato that I'm glad I dumped was FBTC, but I am buying back slowly now.
Sold out of FBTC Friday. I was upset because it immediately bounced back 2.5% for close. Not so upset right now.
Sure... Fidelity: As of January 2026, the Fidelity Wise Origin Bitcoin Fund (FBTC) holds 194,497.7 BTC. BlackRock: As of 2026, BlackRock holds approximately 778,000 BTC through its spot ETF (IBIT). BNY Mellon: Reported $321 million in crypto-related investments as of 2021, and actively acts as a custodian for Bitcoin ETFs and stablecoin reserves. Goldman Sachs: Held roughly $204 million in crypto/blockchain investments (as of 2021) and is active in Bitcoin ETF markets. JPMorgan Chase: Actively launching initiatives in tokenized deposits and testing stablecoin services.
Yes. Owners of FBTC and IBIT are really happy today.
Ticker: NUGT Potential entry: $196.45, $200.96, $204.93, $208.63, $213.99 Potential take profit: $221.01, $223.66, $229.10, $254.85, $259.75 Ticker: FBTC Potential entry: $72.40, $72.90, $72.96 Potential take profit: $73.67, $74.40, $75.78, $76.71, $77.83
I didn't even consider that, but that's a great point. I honestly didn't put that much thought into my purchase of MSTU and FBTC. The dip today was quite insane, so I just had to scoop up something just in case we get some sort of rally soon.
I think 5% or less of either (or both) is suitable in your portfolio. I like getting some FBTC in my roth ira for example, currently like 1.2% overall in that. Probably should have done more but it could go to zero more likely than gold could so that's the dilemma. But it could 10x and gold prob won't do that :P
About 1%, but about 20% of new money goes in to FBTC
I have been into Bitcoin for about two years now. I thought about mining, but electricity costs in my area are just outrageous. It wouldn't really be worth it. I just DCA into River, and stack some FBTC Etf's just for fun every week.
What you pay for that equipment would be better spent just DCA’ing FBTC in a Roth or taxable. You have to scale pretty large for it to be profitable.
I sold almost my entire position in FBTC at the ATH, now DCAing back in after the 30% drop. Also piled into the tariff sell off in index funds on all of the fear and panic selling. Sometimes timing the market works really great.
I give $20 a week to FBTC (Bitcoin etf) to avoid FOMO. If it gains exponentially then I win, if Bitcoin dies it’s a very small portion of my portfolio. Honestly I despise cryptocurrency, but I can spare $20 a week and I do believe Bitcoin is here to stay.
For me I trust fidelity enough to buy FBTC. MSTR doesn’t track bitcoin as much as I thought it would. I used to own it too, though I didn’t own it for a long time. So that’s just how I feel, it’s up to you.
FBTC for moi, about 30% of the roth ira is in that currently, rest is VUG. No crypto aside from that these days.
FBTC taking a shit on my head lmao
I'd say either SMH or FBTC. Both can be volatile but have large gains over time.
lmao i pulled out 50 bucks in bitcoin and put it in the FBTC cause im going to try and long term invest. good choice? who knows. ive been learning about the market and trading for about 2 weeks now and thought it was funny. might try day trading actually and lose literally everything!! Yippeeeeee!
Yeah, exactly. The current 'shares per BTC' is 1,760.56 (or 0.0005680 BTC per IBIT share), which is shown in the box near the bottom of the page on the tool. The calculator also updates the BTC/IBIT parity automatically, taking into account tracking drift, fees, and any NAV deviations so the conversion stays pretty accurate without extra work. There’s also a dropdown in the header next to IBIT with the top 10 BTC ETFs preloaded. Once those data feeds are finalized, you’ll be able to quickly run conversions for IBIT, FBTC, GBTC, and the rest. Idea is to replace manual calculations or spreadsheets, quickly switching between strikes for Bitcoiners that think in terms of BTC price, not IBIT (or FBTC, etc).
I’m roughly 85/15 US/int’l with US growth tilts. Mostly ETFs and mutual fund combos (VOO mostly with 15%ish VXUS) with a few individual stocks. I also bought a small chunk of FBTC for funsies recently haha
Zero chance. Buy FBTC instead and just bank on bitcoin. Why the f would you touch this POS
Thanks man, I'm honestly not comfortable taking a $25k+ loss at this point. I'll consider selling monthly covered calls against the 100 shares I already have and put the premium towards FBTC
Hey man. Me to you I think you should close that position and open a long on something else. If you want to go bitcoin just buy calls on FBTC or the others. MSTR is a dog man. It might go up but it’s a dog.
$FBTC every $10 it drops.
lol my buy and hold portfolio is down across the board: || || |FBTC| |VNQ| |VNQI| |VTI| |VXUS|
I also recommend VTI VXUS BND + GLD + FBTC + BRKB and if feeling conservative, SCHD
I really can’t see why anyone would pay a premium for MSTR stock over an ETF like FBTC.
Full port into FBTC, let’s go
A diversified global portfolio, structured as per your risk appetite. For stocks, you can use a global ETF such as VWRA. For bonds, again a global ETF such as AGGG. If you have a large portfolio, you can also buy individual bonds from different countries and denominated in multiple currencies to protect yourself from currency risk. Some gold is also good. A reputed ETF such as PHYS or GLD. If you want to take more risk and are ok with volatility, consider silver. And for a high-risk high-return part of your portfolio, you can add some Bitcoin too - it's core purpose of existence is situations like yours. You can use ETFs such as FBTC or IBIT, or buy directly and store in a cold wallet too.
100% FTEC in individual, 100% FBTC in IRA and 401k
So that’s your proof? A random tweet? IBIT and FBTC both down today meaning OUTFLOWS. If you’re saying binance is manipulating the price down, no, they’re not. Whales on binance manipulating it down? Sure, happens all the time. But binance isn’t directly doing anything
**Crypto Fear & Greed Index:** 21 (Extreme Fear) Today, I bought more Ethereum ($FETH and $ETHA), Bitcoin ($IBIT and $FBTC) and Solana ($BSOL) on big dips. In the meantime, FinTech and big banks are furiously working on faster transaction protocols on Ethereum and Solana blockchains which will replace current international and national transactions https://preview.redd.it/3m94fpkvxazf1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=898d2276279a35284e6d78833be27a3eb72d6f6d
Today's market sentiment reminds me of April (not as bad yet though) because I was posting that I was buying with all my available cash in [r/stocks](https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/) and [r/investing](https://www.reddit.com/r/investing/) and they were downvoting me like crazy. Six months later I am 200-300% in many stocks I bought in April Today, I am buying Ethereum ($FETH and $ETHA), Bitcoin ($IBIT and $FBTC) and Solana ($BSOL) because: **Crypto Fear & Greed Index:** 21 (Extreme Fear)
IBIT and FBTC have 24/7 trading. You can trade 5/7 of the week just fine with the ETFs which is well worth the fee rapery of regular crypto.
I sold FBTC, I didn't like the big swings. If you are into day trading, its not a bad idea.
If racehorses can be held in a self-directed IRA then I suppose physical gold can be too. IRAs of the self-directed kind are a special kind of IRA. Is a single-commodity ETF treated as an ordinary stock ETF? Not if it’s a grantor trust like GLD or SGOL or IBIT or FBTC. These are treated as if you actually own the commodity itself, and are using the ETF as a custodian of sorts. And the maintenance fees we pay these ETFs? They’re an expense the IRS recognizes and we can add them to our cost basis. Complicating things a bit is that the ETF shaves off a bit of our commodity each month and cashes it to pay expenses. That’s a taxable event that gets passed through to us and we report those monthly transactions on Schedule D.
Can I ask why FBTC or FETH for 5-10 years is better than COST?
Buy QQQM FBTC or FETH on an auto weekly basis. Cost is a dividend play, you’re too young for that. Focus on total return. Dividends are not free money. If you just live Costco, then all good. I buy them because I like them, full disclosure. Buy auto weekly. Set to auto. Do t rely on self discipline. Sell only when you have something urgent to pay for. That’s it. That’s investing. Have an emergency fund. Learn as you go, Rome wasn’t built in a day. Best of luck!!
And it’s up 65 percent in 1 year compared to 15 percent on spy, so cherry picking time frames doesn’t mean shit. I mean if you’re so confident then sure go for it, the flow is still heavily bullish on IBIT and FBTC
Is this sarcasm? Or are you genuinely confused as to which is the better purchase MSTY & ULTY vs BITO & FBTC?
The traditional advice for retirement accounts is to invest in growth index funds like S&P500 (500 companies) or a total market fund like VTI with thousands of companies. These funds tape into the average growth of hundreds of companes. FBTC basically taps into the growth on one thing bitcoin. Bitcoin is fare riskier than growth index funds because it is not diversified. Yes it has been consistently going up. But eventually anything in the market will go down. When at nd how much no one knows. For people that are retired they common adivce is to convert your growth funds to Bond funds for income. Others use dividend income. These assets generate a continous stream of income without selling shares. Many have a mix of growth index funds, bonds, and dividend funds. For taxable accounts many use bonds or money market funds or dividends for income in addition to work income. And often growth index funds are included. I wouldrecomend you go with a combination right now with VTI for growth and SPYI for income. Many
I don't mind the idea of leveraging MSTR in principle, but $450 seems like a big ask... Personally, I've never bought MSTR, I have a fair amount of BTC that I self custody, and a healthy position in FBTC in an IRA.
Open a Fidelity account. Buy QQQM or VOO on a weekly auto basis. Then work to increase that weekly. Sell ONLY when you have something urgent to pay for. You can leave Schwab where it is. No you don’t need to “convert” (you’re already thinking of selling when you have nothing urgent to pay for). ETF’s are better for taxes long term in taxable account. Rome wasn’t built in a day. You learn as you go. You’re doing great at your age!! If you want FBTC or FETH, that’s fine. Buy auto weekly just anything else. Fidelity supports fractionals. You can $25/week if you wanted. Never rely on self discipline. Always set to auto. ONLY SELL if you have something urgent to pay for. Be suspicious of you “urgency”. If you learn this early you will see money is super easy. Best of luck!!
Not index but best buys for me have been WPAY, SCHD, SCHG, FBTC, FUTY, and JEPQ
I never got into crypto until Fidelity made an ETF. I always see it as a scam. But now that it is an ETF I have some liquidity. I bought FBTC when it first came out, and it has doubled.
You can already buy crypto ETFs like FBTC in 401ks
My understanding is that Fidelity's FBTC are held by "Fidelity Digital Assets" which then uses cold storage. So Fidelity's bitcoin is essentially held by Fidelity, albeit a different legal entity, but its essentially the same thing. Now I could be wrong, but that seems logical to me.
Most people including me are more likely to lose their btc by self custody. If buying ETF I would buy FBTC because I trust fidelity. BTC in cold wallet cannot liquidate to “money” unless you send it to an crypto exchange. And sending cryptocurrencies to a crypto exchange carries risk as well.
It's funny that you used Fidelity as the example, because Fidelity actually is the custodian of FBTC's bitcoin.
Id go with blue chips techs mostly, a bitcoin etf, and a couple other non tech bluechips. Think Alphabet, Apple, Nividia, Microsoft, Amazon, Tesla, AMD, Palantir, Crowdstrike, Taiwan Semiconductor, Costco, Visa, JP Morgan Chase, Berkshire Hathaway, and FBTC. Lot of upside here to be up massively over the next 10 years.
I buy some FBTC and FETH every week and have had no issues with them. I’m a similar boat - I want some skin in the game but don’t want to worry about self custody. Crypto maxis will scoff at you by saying “not your keys, not your coins”, but I trust Fidelity so that doesn’t bother me. And their ETFs are backed by the actual assets.
I like $FBTC because they custody their own Bitcoin. The other ETFs mostly use Coinbase.
Bought more IBIT and FBTC today
I’m at about 30% gold allocation in IAUM, 15% crypto FBTC and FETH, the remaining 55% is S&P500
Fiat always goes down. Its purpose isn’t to have stable value. Its purpose is to transact. And nothing transacts better on the planet, for better or worse. If you want to hold gold, great. It hasn’t been awesome since 2000, it’s been the last 5 of gold bugs gaining traction and sheep following. The gold bugs have willed this into existence, which end of the day is fine, it’s how markets work, more buy orders price go up. It might be wise, I would rather QQQM and FBTC personally. To each their own. Best to all.
Sure. I guess. Nothing I would ever buy or reco. I don’t believe in rocks. If we’re playing store of value, I would rather FBTC and call it a day. Most people should just stick to QQQM or VOO DCA. Sell when you have something urgent to pay for. Moving to gold after historic all time highs after decades of poo poo, reeks of FOMO. OP sounds rich, lowkey humble brag, he will be fine lol.
In my Roth IRA for the year, I did $1k in FBTC, $2k in VXUS, and $4k in VTI. Do you think it’s wise to get FBTC in my taxable brokerage?
I think BITF will outperform BITX. Also I own a fuckton of BITU in my retirement accounts which have been very profitable for me. I did the comparison with BITX and I would’ve made significantly less because BITX has a crazy decay on it. Not even kidding compare the 2. Safest bitcoin play is FBTC because they barely charge anything, it follows bitcoin pretty closely.
Shoulda kept my Roth in FBTC lol
And both BITU and FBTC are significantly outperforming SPY
Over a year ago I put my whole 401k and hsa money into BITU. And 95% of the time it would’ve been more profitable to have bought FBTC. (BITU is 2x leverage on the bitcoin) because of decay. But after all this time it’s almost a good investment.
I also hold FBTC for this reason. FBTC afaik is the only ETF that doesn't use a third-party custodian.
I should have mentioned I use FBTC in my Roth, hence tax free gains. I’ve edited my original post to clarify that.
Fidelity FBTC holds the Bitcoin directly themselves. iShares IBIT uses Coinbase I believe, it’s not direct for them.
What’s the rationale to owning FBTC instead of IBIT which has lower fees?
Yes. I own normal Bitcoin and FBTC (in my Roth IRA) and they have almost identical performance. If you Google both their gains historically you can see for yourself.
I don’t want to deal with it directly so I let Fidelity deal with it, and by using FBTC I get tax free growth.
when you buy FBTC puts, fren.
? A lot of places offer it as a stock. FBTC is one of many
As someone who holds RR, RKLB, and IONQ, I view these as really long term holds. All 3 could be the actual future. At the same time, I allow myself about 1/6 of the money I contribute to "fun stocks". The rest goes to VTI, VXUS, and a little bit of FBTC. For FBTC, this is somewhat a recent development and change in strategy. I feel having ~5% of your holdings in crypto will become the new norm. This is coming from someone who had quite a bit of BTC in 2017 and cashed out when it hit $17k. I'm not upset about not holding that as for the longest time I had the philosophy "no one knows why btc goes up and down, why would you invest in that". Now it seems like that's still true, but if you keep DCAing, you can probably come out ahead in the big swings. And I know FBTC has quite a high expense ratio, but with my brokerage I receive a 1% bonus on recurring buys, so I still believe I'm ahead instead of buying actual coin. I did read somewhere though that there's a service that waives transaction fees on BTC if you do recurring purchases, maybe I should look into that. Idk life is busy and FBTC is easy 😆
VOO and chill in Fidelity account. Set to auto. Sell only when something urgent to pay for. FBTC FETH are fun with autos as well. Just set to auto, don’t rely on self discipline.
There's nothing wrong with investing in both stocks and some IBIT or FBTC
ICOP for Copper Mining. IDMO, FIVA, FENI, FNDE for foreign equity. FBTC for Bitcoin. I’d mention my US holdings too but it’s pretty standard stuff. Never stop buying.
Next couple of weeks is way too short. I would prioritize capital preservation as opposed to gains because I would imagine that your classmates may take shots on individual stocks that could just go ass up. Something like: - 60% VOO - 20% SPMO - 15% mix of individual stocks ranging from shit-tier to MAG7 (NVDA, GOOGL, OPEN) - 5% crypto (FBTC or FETH, any Bitcoin or Ethereum ETF) This is on the very aggressive side of a reasonable portfolio. Your holdings in VOO ensure some capital preservation while the SPMO ensures you have a steady basket of stocks beating the market, and your choice of individual stocks are targeting the companies with the highest trading volumes, and the crypto is a hedge on the federal reserve cutting interest rates amidst rising inflation. I’ve done historical projections on this portfolio breakdown, and over a 1 year span, you could assume an alpha of 1-2%. Obviously you can’t guarantee anything but be reasonable. I don’t know what they’re teaching in your economics class but if you want this to be somewhat reflective of a real portfolio I would suggest something along the lines of what I have above with some justification for why you would choose that.
The only real difference between the two is that FBTC is fidelity and is slightly more expansive, and IBIT is blackrock and is cheaper. In reality they have the same performance year over year performance so either is a great choice for tracking bitcoin.
What about FBTC? Just curious since it’s almost the same as IBIT
VT, BND, and FBTC. I added some bonds recently hoping to DCA into market volatility.