MA

metricfan

Like I’ve been active in my vanguard accounts lately moving around my holdings before the tariffs crash, and it’s gotten me onto these threads more. I’m low-key shocked by the retail investors trying to do stupid shit like short the market. I’m already back up from that recent crash, and I was able to buy some Berkshire b for like 497 and picked up vclax on the dip, so I thought I was doing good. Then I see people on here losing thousands to shorts and I think they gotta be kids in their 20’s or something. I graduated with an MA in 2009, and watching everything fall apart like that really taught me how bad it can get. I think there are a lot of kids on robinhood that don’t get it.

bardhizi

Chicks-with-dicks  ..it’s ma’am! IT’S MA’AM! 

AtomicBlondeeee

It will probably rally a bit more then head back down. Friday will likely be rough with Econ data. Next week w Fed. Don’t be surprised if we hit the 200 MA. It’s totally regarded - I agree.

Scottystocktrader

Nah your cashin probably. Depends if it holds because SPY is RIGHT at the 3 month 50 day MA resistance line right now

Most-Sun4067

i was expecting a move to the daily 200 MA this week, but not that this move can survive abysmal economic data

epyonxero

MM are going to gt SPY to the 50MA no matter what

JainaW

I literally just emailed FSU to try and get statistics class done so I can finish my BA and get my MA to become a therapist. This after my lesson learning stock options yesterday. Lol

arbitraryBlue

QCOM puts, HOOD puts, CVS puts, MA calls

Beyond5739

I'm good with that. 50 MA is still reachable

greenpride32

Your typical middle class to upper middle class family in the US retires on some combination of pension/annuity/401k which all have heavily reliance on equities. The companies in the SP500 index cumulatively pay over $500b in cash dividends and that number keeps rising over time. Any "transfer of wealth" is from people making poor decisions such as betting on options or selling low and buying high. I am not wealthy, but how is it the system transferred my wealth away from me, if inf fact my net worth grew with VOO MSFT AMZN MA V NVDA NFLX and many others over the years?

MrMiddletonsLament

Thinking of buying some financial stocks. Have to do research but so far the list looks like. JPM, AXP, GS, MS, COF, MA. Good or bad?

Fun-Sundae4060

Depends if you are a buy and holder or a swing trader. If you swing trade, you will be going with the trend. If you are wrong, you sell. It makes no sense to buy underneath the MA since you will be buying into a bear trend, unless you are betting for a reversal which is unlikely without confirmation. If you buy and hold, buying at the cheapest possible entry makes sense. If you are wrong, you don’t care, you’re holding anyways.

A_Mungus

Taking off my fake bull mask, we’re rubbing up against 200 and 50 day MA tomorrow, GDP is coming out, and Trump is gonna talk. Plus FOMC, unemployment, and CPI all on Friday. If it can’t break out tomorrow past the MA because any one of those things mentioned is worse than expected, we will be heading back down. I predict we wipe out the last rally (because I need it to happen okay?)

sunlo2013

I am amazed how in just 100 days the US can become more and more like China. Ever heard about Jack MA in China.

Sad-Objective573

$SGMA – This “undervalued gem” might actually be a value trap. Here’s why I’m staying away. Let’s break this down for anyone eyeing SigmaTron International ($SGMA) as a swing or long-term play. The Business: $SGMA is an EMS (electronic manufacturing services) company. They build components and assemble products for other companies — basically the silent middleman in the supply chain. They’ve got facilities in the U.S., Mexico, China, and Vietnam. Sounds global and scalable, right? Except… EMS is a brutally competitive, low-margin business, and they’re not exactly leading the pack. Longevity ≠ Strength: They’ve been public since 1994 and still trade as a microcap stock with barely any liquidity. No reverse splits, sure, but also no serious price appreciation over decades. That’s not a strength — that’s stagnation. The Financial “Glow-Up”: They posted $25.96M in free cash flow in 2024. Not bad. But that’s a one-off turnaround from negative FCF the year prior. The business is lumpy, margins are razor-thin, and one weak quarter or lost client could wipe that all out. Also, EMS providers are highly dependent on customer demand — if a major customer cuts back, it stings hard. Chart Hype: Yes, it bounced off a double bottom and is flirting with MA50. Traders say it’s working toward MA200, which is ~80% up from here. But historically? Every spike has been short-lived. This is a classic “pump-and-fizzle” setup. Low float = volatility bait. Proceed with caution. Insider Ownership (a double-edged sword): Insiders own close to 20%. Sounds bullish, right? But that also means fewer shares available to trade — and IF insiders sell into a rally, retail gets trapped. No Moat. No Buzz. No Real Growth. There’s no innovation moat here. They’re not riding the AI wave, they’re not in cutting-edge chip design, and they’re not expanding aggressively. Just a quiet legacy EMS company doing contract work while competitors race ahead. ⸻ TL;DR Don’t let low float and one good year fool you — $SGMA is not the diamond in the rough it might seem. This looks like a value trap wrapped in a swing trader’s dream. Watch for dilution, weak volume, and chart fakeouts. Might be a fun trade if you’re quick — but as a long-term pick? I’m out.

account_not_active

TSLA breaking and closing above the 200MA would be the pinnacle of clown shit in this market.

gaymossadist

I am loving this AH dump could have definitely been a trap since it only rocketed last 20 mins before eod so not really true confirmation above resistance, if it can hold below the 200MA tomorrow I think we could see 197 in May for sure. From my experience death crosses usually do have significance but it usually takes a few weeks before we see the full effects.

shuks1996

4k to 25k. If 80 hits or lower. I actually think SBUX shits the bed. Heck V and MA too Anything consumer based is toast for now

-IQ200

Prediction: MA50 reject to confirm death cross trend. SPX 5600 / SPY 558 range top this week.

xerxes480bce

Mass also has the highest pay out rate by far with $764 per capita. The next closest is Georgia at $427 per capita. It's still a bad bet, but more people play because they hear about and see more winners in MA than elsewhere.

gmnotyet

If TSLA breaks through the 150MA around $310, it's off to the races.

King-Doge-VII

50d MA is resistance lmao!

procyon_mh

Well, I'm only focusing on one at a time and right now SPX feels adequate and moves around enough. I don't think it would work if I tried doing several at the same time because I'm doing fast entries and with tiny movements when there's momentum. I'm an amateur, so I trend the same index on three separate time spans with the fastest being 30s. I look at the trend behavior and take my entry points based on the Bollinger bands, the RSI, MACD, RVI, ATR and the usual MA50, MA200

throw_away492509

Except that the MA is obviously an average. While it can’t predict the future, it suggests that the average price has been moving downwards in spite of this current upward movement. It shows the overall trend in which we trade. And right now, that trend is still downwards even after last week. I somewhat agree with OP in the sense that no bottom has formed yet.

richtopia

If this debt is getting paid, does that mean calls on $MA and $V?

RedStag86

Just testing the 200 day MA after a death cross before plummeting later this week. Should bounce hard off of $291.

roskalov

Check V and MA. Near 100% gross profit margins.

NotGucci

Will have to see how visa, Amex and MA report and see if default has spiked.

ChairmanMeow1986

This is a way if you scalp leveraged trades. Care to share more on how you trade than 200 week MA, any other guidance or thoughts. I'd be interested. Sorry If this question is offensive somehow.

Cho90s

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-10-25/card/container-shipping-firms-cancel-sailings-to-u-s-and-europe-pkYK6acxyD8bl2D4MA8X https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/news-insights/research/us-exporters-canceled-orders-chinese-buyers-tariffs https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/22/busiest-us-ports-see-big-drop-in-chinese-freight-vessel-traffic.html I could probably hit the character limit in links in 2 minutes. There's no way in hell you do an iota of due diligence when trading stocks.

A4_Ts

News/Macro > Technical Analysis ALWAYS It can break 200MA and have an RSI of 2 but if 🥭 nukes Vietnam you best believe that shit won’t matter

WPI94

I’ve noticed more semi trucks without trailers than I’ve ever noticed before. (MA)

MisterPink

It involves patience and the 200 week MA and leveraged funds.

AdSuspicious8005

If I can get $55k again I'd do like 2 months out calls. $80 Nvidia would align with spy 200MA weekly. Literally all of my targets would get hit and I would no longer be barish

AdSuspicious8005

I think we'll get a lower low in. SPY 200MA on the weekly still the target. If there wasn't corruption up the ass and private individuals couldn't literally talk into his ear whenever they wanted to we would've made our money easily.

AdSuspicious8005

Spy 200MA on the weekly then was going to ride the market up with TQQQ no matter how long it took

AdSuspicious8005

Yeah. Reason why I didn't sell was I was waiting for spy to hit the 200MA on the weekly as it has done in almost every one of these cases. It got very close only to be destroyed by 🥭 pussy pause. But also I was a pig and should've taken profits when the daily was below 30 on RSI and the hourly was at like 8. I was expecting a dead cat bounce and was just going to ride through it.... And boy did that shit bounce.

Unfnole23

It’s in a downtrend. Did you look at a chart before buying? Maybe opp at 200 day or 50 week MA.

Most-Sun4067

pullback to SPY 545, before a next leg up, with target being the 200 MA at around 570-580, but nobody knows :D

RhythmsOG

1/3 of MA (20) volume today...

No-Significance-8934

Well, friend, I turned off the MA overlays for more clarity. And I was curious about resistance lines so I zoomed out.

elgrandorado

I nibbled a bit more on MCO. I also rethought my positioning across the board during the whole initial liberation day fiasco. I sold out of V and MA completely and went international. Dip bought Nintendo and ASML while entering positions in Constellation Software and Ferrari for the first time.

King-Doge-VII

Achr tryna break the 100d MA rn

King-Doge-VII

Why we getting rejected at only the 30d MA this is so gay lmao

Royal-Strawberry-138

Day trade - US-100 hit MA - put 500 pts. 

strangemanornot

Same with MA. Lots of western MA is very affordable.

Vimes76

Thing is the environment that has been created by the administration & the uncertainty. We like US stocks but if it is going to be this volatile you are gonna buy the dip and sell the rip. You want realised gains and lower risk of being caught with your pants down by a single tweet. It will take some sustained uptrend past the MA's and held above, much more than what has been seen, to change this. In my opinion anyway.

Fuckaliscious12

Easy to find from multiple sources: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/hapag-lloyd-says-30-chinas-us-bound-shipments-have-been-cancelled-2025-04-23/ https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/16/trade-war-fallout-china-freight-ship-decline-begins-orders-plummet.html https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/stock-market-trump-tariffs-trade-war-04-10-25/card/container-shipping-firms-cancel-sailings-to-u-s-and-europe-pkYK6acxyD8bl2D4MA8X https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/amazon-cancels-orders-from-china-1082567 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/12/trump-tariffs-on-china-mean-irreversible-damage-for-most-businesses.html https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3305834/chinese-exporters-said-be-ditching-shipments-mid-voyage-avoid-crushing-trump-tariffs

Revolutionary-Owl-79

89 MA would do too!

GlitteringPapaya2671

strongest MA known to man

noplanman_srslynone

So next week we get a bunch of earnings! AMZN, AAPL, MSFT, LLY, V, MA, CVX, MCD, PLTR, XOM, CAT etc... We taking bet's on how many of them are going to offer guidance? Wonder if all of them will just be like "we'll get back with ya"

AffectionateMaize523

Fair point, appreciate the clarification. You’re right, the 545–547 zone is a key short-term resistance, and the rejection today was telling. My 563 level reference was based on the 50-day MA from a medium-term lens (4-month view), but you’re correct that it aligns more with the weekly MA and is currently well above trend.

WhiteGirth

starting to believe the 50 MA is the only indicator you need on your chart

BornAd5559

I don’t even know what a 50MA is

justhp

What the fuck is the bull case? EVERYTHING is below the 200MA Death crosses everywhere The entire earth is tariffed Wars are starting The is literally no reason to be bullish now

Civil-Night-3351

I’ll probably short again if we hit the 200D MA

rainman_104

I'd hang on to V and MA due to their global exposure.

Guilty-Deer-2147

Bers will tell you with a straight face about MA Death Crosses or how SPY is doomed to fall to x price because of technicals, then later that week you get a single mango tweet which pumps all the indicies by 10% LMAOOOO

Quartzcplkc816

Funny that it got back over the 200MA and cratered lol. The MMs are playing safe.

nissan_nissan

SPY 200MA is 573.21 lol [https://www.barchart.com/etfs-funds/quotes/SPY/technical-analysis](https://www.barchart.com/etfs-funds/quotes/SPY/technical-analysis)

EverythingInSetsOf10

Based on SP500 during the 08 crash, once the 50 day moving average moved below the 200 day moving average, it never moved back above the 200 day MA until the bottom was in. You do miss out on some of the gains from the bottom if you wait for this to occur, but you don't fall for any early bear market rallies. For the SP500, the 50 day moving average is currently below the 200 day moving average.

isolated-cat

no one has any clue about the price movement and it's literally just vibe based gambling. RSI, MA and VWAP are all garbage in this memeconmy where indices pump and dump

greenpride32

MSFT revenue has more than doubled since 2018. AMZN revenue has nearly tripled since 2018. For NVDA it is well over 10x. Could go on and on and on with LULU and GOOGL and WMT and COST and MA and many many more. So top line growth with supporting bottom line growth doesn't fundamentally mean capital appreciation?

RekSai-Bot

We are gonna touch the 50 day MA and then dump is my call

AdSuspicious8005

You do realize in 2022 spy was down 38%. Double where we are at rn. I do think we hit a new lower low but not by much. Will probably pop off the 200MA, equities have been and still are slightly over valued.

True-Pressure-8913

I'm currently holding 94% in IGOV. ISHG is a comparable international bond ETF with shorter duration (1-3 yr). I'm not invested in stocks right now due to tariffs and political uncertainty in the US. Will buy back if we regain the 200D MA, if tariffs are rolled back, or if SPY hits 480s. I do wonder though if you can get a better entry on IGOV and ISHG as they and the dollar have just made big moves

NalonMcCallough

Petrobras makes up 5% of my holdings. I consider it a staple in my dividend portfolio. Periodically I buy puts and calls on it because I've held shares for so long, that I can just recognize the high/low patterns. Typically, I buy calls below the MA(28) when RSI falls below 50, and puts when the stock is above the VWAP. As for timeframe for options, Usually I look at weeklies (4-5 Days out) or 21 days out.

oveoo

Weekly 200MA is a +100% move. (It will recover)

Elementaldose

Spy breaking weekly MA100 💩

looool_k_libtard

81% of market is under 200 day MA lmao thank you 🥭 fucking putz

HeckleHelix

Monday April 21st: Fundamentally, the U.S. economy is going to shit the bed. Headlines all negative short medium & long term will give wakeup call to investors. Looking at technical chart on $SPY, 5yr trend: Stochastics turning up with Vol. spike on the buy April 7th could see some upside. 1yr trend: Stochastics & MACD stalled out just above 50, looks like more sideways nonsense. 5day trend: Set to open gapped down at support at 521 below MA. Still a gap to fill at 564, but unlikely unless PotUS goes back on something. Could have made some $ had I rode those 520 puts over the weekend, but never know what PotUS will say. If I were to gamble on it, it would be on the downside. We will retest 500 at some point, its just timing. Sitting out of opening bell & watching.

AdSuspicious8005

The market not including the tariffs or anything like that is still over valued. I expect spy to hit the 200MA on the weekly which we got close to but didn't hit by like 5%

NewIdea8

I just started this a week ago and am learning the ropes but it is so fun and I feel like it’s a good way to trade this market. I have been using RH legend to trade. I watch the 1s ticker with RSI and two MA signals. I watch the direction and only enter when RSI crosses 30/70. When RSI crosses 30 I enter a call. When it crosses 70 I enter a put. Trade till my cash is out and rinse and repeat.

Emergency-Eye-2165

We’re below 200 day MA so sounds right. These posts making me more bullish.

I_am_Nerman

It's very useful in financial services across all states. We have a high 6- figure monthly spend with them. That includes states like CA and MA. Not sure where this flyover nonsense came from. You guys drink your own bullshit milkshake and think it tastes good.

I_am_Nerman

It's very useful in financial services across all states. We have a pretty high 6- figure monthly spend with them. That includes states like CA and MA. Not sure where this flyover bullshit came from. You guys drink your own bullshit milkshake and think it tastes good.

IgmFubi

I would like to see a test of the 200MA first before we test the last low again. If that does not happen at all then I would see this as another bearish indication.

blvckhabits

Honestly, you can just send it a screenshot of a chart and ask it anything. You can start with a general question like "can you give me your insight on this trend in these time frames" and narrow your questions from there based on the response. For screenshots, I send it a chart in 3 different time frames. 15min, 4 hour, and daily with my indicators showing. It'll break down what it sees and help you build a strategy for trades and can give you insight about the ticker and how it moves generally. You can also tell it your preferred trading style, goals, etc. It's not perfect, so it'll commit normal human like errors (e.g., misreading). One time it read my MA indicator as EMA. I corrected it and it fixed it's error and changed its answer accordingly. Today, I asked it's opinion on tickers I wanted to watch next week and it gave me insight on each ticker and even suggested that I replace one of the tickers after I followed up with "Are there any tickers you recommend I not trade." Super useful tool. You can ask seriously anything. It's both amazing and concerning lol

scotty6chips

Sort of a combination of recognizing patterns in candles as well as watching MA, RSI, VWAP, etc. it’s all part of a complete picture that helps find effective entries and exits.

Correct_Dot_1345

Except of course George W Bush tried for most of his presidency to restructure the Government-Sponsored Enterprises (GSEs), only to be stopped repeatedly by the Democrats. Some examples: October [2003]: Senator Thomas Carper (D-DE) refuses to acknowledge any necessity for GSE reforms, saying “if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” (Sen. Carper, Hearing of Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs, 10/16/03) September [2003]: Then-House Financial Services Committee Ranking Member Barney Frank (D-MA) strongly disagrees with the Administration’s assessment, saying “these two entities – Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac – are not facing any kind of financial crisis … The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.” (Stephen Labaton, “New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae,” The New York Times, 9/11/03) April[2004]: Rep. Frank ignores the warnings, accusing the Administration of creating an “artificial issue.” At a speech to the Mortgage Bankers Association conference, Rep. Frank said “people tend to pay their mortgages. I don’t think we are in any remote danger here. This focus on receivership, I think, is intended to create fears that aren’t there.” (“Frank: GSE Failure A Phony Issue,” American Banker, 4/21/04) You can read all about Bush’s efforts here: https://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/10/20081009-10.html

TailRudder

There's over 100-150 years between when MA made garments and today. A multi-generational example isn't very useful. To use a more relevant example, what about Detroit?

Prethiraj

Nope. AMEX and Discover both back the loans for their credit cards so that thats why they will always trade at lower valuations compared to MA and V. V and MA don't back the loan and that's why they trade at tech multiples while AMEX and Discover both trade near bank multiples.

Unhappy_Marsupial203

ELV pre announced earnings (similar business to UNH) and they expect to beat earnings estimate. They did, however, expand their Medicare Advantage enrollment… although they claim that it won’t be an issue for them (that’s the reason UNH dropped was costs associated with MA). Puts are imo too risky, so long as they don’t say anything dumb the stock goes up. General Motors has earnings on 4/29 BMO, considering grabbing puts as the guidance will be heavily dependent on raw materials & 🥭. Shorting Tesla seems like a bad move in general. American Airlines (AAL) looks like a good shorting opportunity, last quarter for them was embarrassing and I don’t see how the company can turn around now. Contrarily, LUV is in a slightly better spot than AAL, but I don’t see the benefit in playing their earnings. Intel is in a unique position as a semiconductor business, but tariffs for raw materials will make it difficult for the company to issue good guidance. The Google lawsuit is likely going to be a non-issue for earnings. The big mover for the week is probably a stock I didn’t mention tbh.

Aivoke_art

like, we havent even gotten back to the 200MA yet, if it's gonna ATH there are plenty of points left in between

Civil-Night-3351

I’m in SCC and SQQQ but mostly international bonds. Why try to fight the trend. If we’re below the 200D MA the trend is down, if we’re above it it’s bullish. Sometimes it dips below and quickly regains it but when it doesn’t trouble is ahead. Pretty confident we’re in a bear market relief rally

AdSuspicious8005

There will be for sure a lot of countries he will get deals with probably this month. Now am I betting on a lower low, yes but not by much. Just enough to touch the 200MA on spy. We almost did it until the fucking tweet

70InternationalTAll

Honestly, about the same strategy. I use MA50 and VWAP for when the price crosses over and holds with good volume and price action. In addition to that I use Key Psychological Levels, PMH, PML PDH, PDL, and VIX increases and decreases. Once I enter the trade I set my limit order at the target for 5-6% profit depending on my funds used. If I see a huge movement happening I'll sell 70% of the contracts and let the others run to 10-15%.

CardinalM1

I'm torn on UNH stock. One on hand Project 2025 calls for MA to be the default enrollment option for Medicare which will be a huge boon to UNH. On the other hand, the likely recession will reduce employment which will impact UNH's commercial business. I think the current price is a great buying opportunity since it will likely shoot to the moon whenever Trump announces MA as the default enrollment option, but I'm not willing to invest more than I already have in UNH because all it would take would be a positive comment about DEI from Andrew Witty to derail the whole MA default enrollment thing.

rym1469

Boston, Portsmouth. That's where most of the EB-5s for Chinese do investments in MA specifically.

febreze_air_freshner

What areas do they own in MA?

Independent-Tree-985

Gap above the MA is hilarious Back down you go. But cute try

funrunfin23

Now run buying/selling on 200 day MA vs buy and hold. You’d find your timing point to be wrong

ayashifx55

Oh SHIT , its JACK MA !

Cruezin

If you were paying attention, you'd have seen multiple things on the chart suggesting we'd go down. The daily 50MA crossed the 200MA, for one; also, PA was rolling over, and failed to break resistance. Not to even mention all the shenanigans going on. The market does not like uncertainty. That's really the bottom line. JPOW talked in no uncertain terms about where we were and where we were headed at the end of 2024- which was in a good light. He then proceeded to say that since the beginning of the year, things have gotten wonky, and that the tariffs will lead to increased unemployment and inflation soon, and blamed all of that on the administration. TLDR, we're fucked.

scuddlebud

50D MA fell below the 200D MA. This means we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg for the downtrend. SPY 420 is not a meme.

hunter_long

Watch for the pullback to 5 or 9 day MA, it’s pretty extended right now

TrickyDickCheney

Nvda might hit $100 today. Just sitting on the 200 MA on 1 hour. Gonna break if it can’t bounce

Critical_Penalty_815

We have not gained momentum above the 200MA. Don’t be a regard.

Critical_Penalty_815

The dump signal is that the price just crossed 200MA

-YouAgain

There is a 'death cross' 50 day MA crossing 200 day to downside in QQQ and S&P, along with descending trendlines and a descending triangle formation. I'm buying QQQ puts tmrw with May 16 expiration. This volatility maps to quicker moves than 6 mos imo. Volatility = opportunity but gotta move quick and take some profits when available. I have VIX 35 calls that paid off, sold 2/3 but have 1/3 left. May buy more then if it gets over 60 buy puts cause VIX never stays high for long.