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You can probably mitigate SpaceX entering the Nasdaq 100 if you're prepared.
If I'm long the index and believe they will go up long term, why would it be a bad idea to buy SSO and QLD that are 2x the index?
If I'm long the index and believe they will go up long term, why would it be a bad idea to buy SSO and QLD that are 2x the index?
TQQQ and Gold Strategy using the SPY 200SMA (Three Phase Strategy)
Cannot beat the market but leverages are showing massive gains over market as far we can look back. Some can argue on imaginary backward projections, but the rules have changed to prevent sharp drops.
i've been hesitant on leverage but how about QLD?
Does DCA/Averaging Down increase performance in leveraged investments?
Which one is better: TQQQ (200 SMA strategy) vs. QLD (buy and hold)
Which one is better: TQQQ (200 SMA strategy) vs. QLD (buy and hold)
ETF portfolio review: Trying to be aggressive for 15 year timeframe
TQQQ 200SMA (+5%/-3%) Strategy follow up with additional stats and enhancements (Blended with Supertrend)
TQQQ 200SMA (+5%/-3%) Strategy follow up with additional stats and enhancements (Blended with Supertrend)
TQQQ 200SMA (+5%/-3%) Strategy follow up with additional stats and enhancements (Blended with Supertrend)
Portfolio Advice: Can I be more aggressive with my investments?
YOLO’d into SSO + QLD + TSMX at 27. My retirement plan is vibes and semiconductors.
What are the difference of these leverages. QQQ on margin vs QLD
QLD... Why All the Warnings to Not Hold it Long Term?
I locked myself in a box spread and levered myself at 3.33x on SPY/QQQ
Dollar cost averaging JEPI ETF and some QLD trading is keeping me afloat
Investing student loan into TQQQ? Good idea or meh
Analysis of LEAPS on Base (1x) vs Leveraged (3x) Securities
Dip Buying BackTesting - SPY & QQQ with Leveraged Accounts
Anyone just trying to match SPY with minimum drawdowns?
I need help with QLD investing (aggressive investment strategy)
What’s better: a 2x leverage ETF or a deep ITM leap that has 2x leverage on the same underlying?
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Be a man and 50/50 TECL amd QLD. You are 22, you have plenty of time
Not impressed. I've been doing this with QLD for a while now. Now double that elation and double that pain.
Except QLD, TQQQ, ROM, etc. etc. have all vastly outperformed even the most sophisticated hedgefunds over the past 15+ years
Mercedes is for QQQ. Porsche is for QLD. Lambo is for TQQQ.
just redid my Roth shifting into leverage and futures instead of momentum RSSB NTSD DBMF GDMN SSO QLD
Volatility drag is why I added HV as a criterion, but strangely the AI gave me 30% as threshold which seems pretty high. It did say that tweaking the number doesn't make much difference, and that lowering it too much comes at the cost of missing out on compounding growth of QLD during upward trend. And I haven't considered real time slippage at all. This raises the question, if the price in a given day fluctuates widely but eventually comes back to where it was, does that still cause daily volatility drag?
The main failure mode in moving average crossover rules on 2x funds like QLD isn't the trend leg—it's volatility drag during sideways chop. When historical volatility stays elevated around 25-30%, daily compounding decay eats your principal even if the underlying index ends flat. If your backtest runs on end-of-day data from 2006, it also underestimates real-world slippage and tax drag from switching between QLD, QQQ, and cash inside a taxable account. Have you modeled the turnover tax impact across high-volatility regimes?
I would really suggest going back further, using daily index data to create a longer-history QQQ and QLD.
I used data from 2006 and onwards for both QQQ and QLD. A more detailed breakdown of the test results are 2006~2016 / CAGR / MDD Hold QLD / 17% / -83% QLD QQQ / 15% / -65% QLD QQQ Cash / 11% / -45% Hold QQQ / 12% / -53% 2017~2026 / CAGR / MDD Hold QLD / 31% / -64% QLD QQQ / 33% / -46% QLD QQQ Cash / 34% / -34% Hold QQQ / 19% / -35% And 2006~2026 combined is the table in the post. Again, I'm using fees and tax rates of my specific savings account, so the results may vary quite a bit. The test results are better displayed on this little calculator I made in case you're interested: https://gofile.io/d/39RJa5
Are you using QLD as-is, with data that only goes back to ~2007 or so? Or have you created a quasi-QLD (and even quasi-QQQ) based on index data with longer history?
Fun fact: Best stock is QLD, 2x QQQ. Second best stock is SSO, 2x SPY. 3x leveraged ETFs may bankrupt you during black swan events.
SSO and QLD are examples of realistic long hold leveraged ETFs. Not every leveraged fund is garbage.
Bought SSO and QLD on this dip.
I’m in the same boat with taxes. I have an extremely large position in QLD that has a cost basis of $1.55 and just under 6000% gains. I basically just use it for charitable donations now for a tax write off but will eventually have to pay the piper.
If I had that money I wouldn’t do options over a few 10s of thousands. Or just buy QLD dip or something and hold for a few weeks or months. But maybe that’s why I’m not a millionaire.
Switched my portfolio to 100% QLD. Either tech goes or I go.
Sorry guys. I sold QLD last Friday and tanked the whole market. Might buy something today to make the market go up again.
I have been dcaing QLD and it is up 300 percent. Boring but easy money
You are a 100% fucking bum. I been invested in QLD since 2012 until today with a $150,000 initial position. Up over 8m. Continue staying poor you bum And make sure you put my fries in the bag nerd
I also used to buy SPY. Until I discovered QQQ, QLD, and TQQQ. But nice profit. Would’ve loved to see 333.33 or 333.69 tho
the part nobody is pinning down: a 2x etf over a 2 year hold is the literal opposite of set and forget. it resets daily, so in any choppy or sideways stretch you lose money to vol decay even if the index finishes exactly flat. set and forget works for VTI or QQQ, it actively eats you alive on QLD if you stop watching. your two single names at 150 each arent really investing either, thats two coin flips dressed up as a portfolio. nothing wrong with a punt but call it what it is. if you genuinely dont want to watch it daily then your ticker selection should match that. broad index, auto buy, done. high risk tolerance and dont want to check daily are pulling in opposite directions, and right now your picks lean toward the version that needs babysitting.
The more I think about it, the more I am doubting the picks. Your right, 2000% growth in 3 months isn't sustainable. I will just be exit liquidity. What do you think about: $250 in QLD and $250 in SMH?
I really like the QLD pick for you, I think besides that you could just do SOXX (for semi conductor exposure) and VOO for general market (safe bet).
Bare minimum, sell the QLD and just put it into QQQ. QLD has leverage drag, which is a concept you should read up on, its more used for short term trading for daily or weekly trades, not for a year plus.
Its the greatest bull market like ever and I don't wanna miss out on it by playing it too safe. I know the risks, but I am probably gonna hold for 2 years and then sell it and diversify better. I am 19, what do I have to lose here lol For QLD, here is my thinking: Since its an SIP, I will be buying the dip even if it falls and over a 2 year period, it should outperform VTI or S&P500 by quite a margin. Sorry if it sounds stupid, but I calculated my expenses and I waste 500 bucks on stupid shit every month anyway. I have a part time job that pays me decently enough. Even if the whole $500 is gone, I won't be too worried.
I am a college student and I have $500/month to spare. The thing is, I want to focus on my studies and not waste time checking stock prices daily and have my mood be dictated by it. I decided I will just do a monthly SIP and hold for 2 years, come what may. My risk tolerance is high. This is my split: $200- QLD (2x leveraged ETF) $150- SIVE (Sivers Semiconductors AB) $150- AAOI (Applied Optoelectronics Inc) I have done basic reading on all three and the two stocks I picked are based on companies I think are undervalued despite producing great products. The only issue is one of those stock picks end up being a fraudulent company or leadership is horrible and fumble badly. Tell me if there are better options for the stocks. Both the stocks are down currently and seems like a good time to buy and hold for 2+ years
Held SSO for the first 6 months of this year sold for 17% gain. Ported to QLD hoping for a 20% gain in the second half of the year. Held a sizeable 2X NBIS since last year and will hold it until 2031 no DCA.
Thoughts on 75% QQQM 25% QLD portfolio strat?
During Covid I sold some of my VOO and QQQ and instantly bought SSO, SPXL, QLD and TQQQ. Rode it way up and way down into the bear of 2022 which was a gut-wrenching ride. I bought more in Dec 2022 and have’t looked back. This isn’t for the risk averse for sure. But it can be a roadmap for anyone to deal with dramatic downturns. I’d just recommend selling the leveraged etfs once you’ve recovered if you can’t sleep at night taking that much risk (SOXL was another great one bought during the tariff tumult surrounding liberation day, currently up 14x)
I invested around $4K to QLD in 2009.09. Current value is over $500K, cost basis of $.71, and current SP is $92+, 13K % up, yes, 13,000 % up.
1 share of Space X, Krispy Kreme, QLD… and the rest I just wasted
I invest in 50% QLD/TQQQ, 40% VT, 10% SGOV for spare cash, and call it a day tbh
If you believe this, do QLD for even more leverage.
Fuck this fake pump just drop it another %20 then we can load up some QLD
You can trade it, or you can make money above the 2x or 3x daily multiple investing long-term. Tell me why TQQQ and QLD or UPRO and SSO are far above 3x and 2x gains, respectively above their underlying index for the same timeframe
SpaceX IPO. The other half in QLD.
Actively switching from Just switch from QLD (2x QQQ) to ROM, which are the tech companies inside of Sp500. No tsla, no spacex; only profitable companies admitted.
Internally leveraged index funds hit the sweet spot. Everyone should own QLD. Works on every timeline and been stressed tested dozens of times.
Swap to QLD and double your position
an interesting allocation. I am a big fan of managed futures and gold ... with something more balanced plugged in for QLD (perhaps RSP), this could be somewhat like risk parity. as it is, QLD accounts for almost all the risk, and of course the tech/growth concentration doesn't meet OP's requirement to hedge against catastrophe.
I wouldn’t say so. Historically backtested, even including the dotcom bubble the most efficient leverage on QQQ has been 2x not 1x. On SP500 it is 3x. TQQQ exceeds this for QQQ in the efficient frontier for leverage but it has worked well for the regimes past the dotcom bubble (even including GFC) So the answer is: it depends. For buy and hold, QLD is the best choice. For a strategy like 200SMA, TQQQ would be the better choice.
Sold at my SSO at the peak today and ready to move into QLD. But looks like the bears might be coming. Should I take a chill first and monitor?
My cost average is $49. It’s one of my “hold forever” stocks. I fully expect it to retrace after this insane run up. But I am not selling. I got VMW stock when they spun off. That is now a good chunk of AVGO I am holding. I took the cash from that VMW to AVGO and bought QLD. That original investment I put into DELL about 6-7 years ago is probably up about 850%.
I’m a Buy and hold QLD kinda guy.
Ditch the individual stocks and get TQQQ or QLD. Today’s winners maybe tomorrow’s losers, so just buy a leveraged etf.
If you want leverage QLD and SSO are very good options
Ask in r/letfs. Those guys have tried and tested everything and are the only redditors not terrified of QLD.
oh I see, you're saying QLD LEAPs could still work
Interesting. But QLD is still 2x leverage.
QLD TQQQ may bankrupt you, QLD is the answer
Just buy 80% SPY and 20% UPRO and you will beat SPY without the concentration risk. Or full port SSO, you’ll have the same volatility and drawdowns as all these meme stock picks but good long term returns. Or QLD if you want tech, its better then 100% in just 8 tech names. If you asked this question in 1999 people would have told you to buy JDSU, CSCO, INTC, QCOM, WCOM, SUNW, DELL, ORCL. Some went to zero, some were dead money for 10-20 years.
Boring? Then buy 2x QQQ: QLD. Big risk if the tech market becomes choppy. If it grows you get 2x leverage returns on an index with already huge growth
yep, rolled some of my SGOV into QLD today
Yeah should have got some QLD WITH SSO
Fuck bears. I’ve been 99% QQQ since 2020. The remaining 1% is QLD and a little sprinkle of ASTS.
SPY for top 500 QQQ for top 100 QLD for top 100 x2 TQQQ for top 100 x3 Anything higher than that?
If you had to pick one: $2000 in MUU $4000 in SOXL $8000 in TQQQ $16000 in QLD … delete the app never look again. What would you pick?
Tomorrow morning I'm selling all my QLD and putting it into KORU.
Voo is boring, when you can buy SPMO, SGRT and FMTM. I would buy soxl only little by little on red days when it drops between 5% and 15%. The more it drops the more I would buy. Usually drops after NVDA earnings but it is hard to tell. Maybe at this level it’s better to buy 2x leveraged USD and QLD.
I mean QLD is literally dragging me out of the trenches rn. Most insane month of investing ive ever seen.
But actually QLD is a banger long term hold probably
I did do it a couple weeks ago by going all in on QLD and SSO which lead to a 15% gain on both. Around 30k gain I recall. The data suggests that I hold this no matter how hard it drops and stick to my investment plan of gradually de-leveraging it.
I went all in with QLD and SSO the week before and had a 15% gain on both
SSO, UPRO for SP. People use QLD and TQQQ for the Q’s, but I don’t mess with those.
Why shouldn’t I full port my retirement in QLD
But my returns have been better than average since I also hold some leveraged etfs (SSO, QLD, UYG, ERX and SOXL), and my single stocks are in growing tech driven sectors.
lol why would anyone buy Netflix when they can just buy QLD or something . more upside and no random 8% dumps
Man, you have $3 Million! Stop gambling and just put it in QLD or TQQQ if you want more risk. Just buying bonds at 4% would give you $120k per year even though I would still prefer QLD/TQQQ. Don't end up being the pure redartium guy here (you are probably too smart, but who knows with options).
lol btc what a rug pull. why would anyone buy this shit instead of QLD or semis
Listen closely - on the first of each month, invest $1,000 into QLD. Do this every month for the next 20 years. Retire at age 39 with $6,000,000 This is the quickest, safest, smartest way to build wealth. Ignore people who it wont because it’s a leveraged etf. It does work if you dollar cost average like this. I’ve back tested this a hundred different ways. God speed
I bought some QLD and MSFT
Any stock market recovery will annihilate your SQQQ position. I’ll happily keep loading up on QLD.
Zero sense. PSQ is an exact opposite of TQQQ in 1x form. You mean QQQ or QLD!
Half cash, XIC, QLD, UGL, UCO, RDDT (ironic)
The issue isn’t whether the index goes up long term, it’s how it gets there. Leveraged ETFs like SSO and QLD reset daily, so returns depend heavily on the path, not just the endpoint. In a smooth bull run, they can outperform. But if the market is volatile or sideways, that daily reset starts working against you and erodes returns over time. That’s why most people keep their core in unlevered exposure, then layer in higher growth or alternative plays like VCX separately rather than relying on leverage for long-term compounding.
I am testing this thesis as well. I started a couple years ago. SSO and QLD is a part of my portfolio and I DCA almost equally into a basketful of tickers. So far SSO and QLD are holding up ok. The view will depend on when you enter and how long you are in so YMMV. Why not dip your toes in and make it a small part of your portfolio and see for yourself
$GMGMF $GMG Graphene Mfg Group out of QLD has proprietary plasma graphene process. $HGRAF has detonation process. If anyone can explain the difference to me, I am all ears. LMK Either way both doing well
Honestly I’ve given up on SPY options. Holding cash to dca on SSO and QLD until you know who is no longer supreme leader of America.
Just tell me when to drop 25k on QLD
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I just can’t justify buying anything but QLD lately.
VOO, SPMO, IWY, GDE, but safe is a relative term. If you have a 20 year time horizon, I personally would take market risk and not worry about drawdowns. In fact, if you get a substantial drawdown, there is a way that I have successfully used. You sell a small percent of these funds and buy some leveraged etfs of something similar like SSO/QLD (2x leveraged etfs) and an even smaller piece of UPRO and TQQQ (3x leveraged etfs) until you portfolio gets back on its feet. Then unwind the leverage and put the money back into the original etfs Works like a charm and gets your portfolio back on track in a far shorter timeframe than simply holding
Voltargeting isnt a worthless idea. Its kinda like a trend filter. If you think about an SMA strategy like a 200 or 220 or 250 day, fairly long lookback, most high volatility days cluster beneath the SMA line and thats when you get out of levered positions. DVQQ/SP went down to ~50% exppsure during april, but they took a while to catch the rebound and missed some of the biggest days when trump would rugpull tarrif expectations. Then during the nice low vol summer they went almost 2x exposure and regained a lot of lost ground. But to me, WEBs is just solving the wrong problem with these products, and the fact that it costs 0.96% makes them worthless. Not to mention the costs of the swaps when they go long leverage. For reference, even a simple 220day SMA -/+1% buffer that switches between 100% QQQ and 50/50 QQQ/Cash did 4% higher CAGR than DVQQ since its inception, and going 2x vs 50/50 depending on the SMA signal still did 2%cagr better over the timeframe (had to eat that 40% QLD drawdown into liberation day). Some bad things about the company from their prospectus: "The Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) has not approved or disapproved these securities or passed upon the accuracy or adequacy of this Prospectus." And Syntax's website is hard to find since they changed their name to WEBs ETF trust. In sumary: DVQQ is going to delist, I can almost guarantee it. They dont even have 4M AUM after a year. They have produced *higher* volatility than QQQ for half the CAGR while charging 0.96% ER vs QQQM at 0.15%. Also theyre not even kosher with the SEC yet. DVSP will almost certainly delist for the same reason. WEBs is a small hack shop riding the wave of niche over financialized ETF offerings charging 0.6-1.1 ER for things like options buffering, covered calls, vol targeting, put spread inclme, etc. All of these are bad.
You need growth at your age, not dividends or bonds. Some btc, some gold, some leveraged tech (QLD) are good, but 80% in VT and you can set and forget.
I have USD and QLD. Good on tech in my portfolio
For those that can't afford QQQ options look at QLD
QLD options this month. With all these tech stock earnings this month QQQ will pump.
What sell-off? This has been a good month for me. Even my IRA, which is just broad index funds and a bit of QLD, is up 1.5% since the start of the year.
I trimmed a bit on Greenland news from QLD and moved to UGL. Too much whipsaw.
long QLD, shorting bitcoin free money machine