QLD

NAVYSEAL12ROCK

If you want leverage QLD and SSO are very good options

1234golf1234

Ask in r/letfs. Those guys have tried and tested everything and are the only redditors not terrified of QLD.

CommercialHot9565

oh I see, you're saying QLD LEAPs could still work

CommercialHot9565

Interesting. But QLD is still 2x leverage.

Odd-Block-2998

QLD TQQQ may bankrupt you, QLD is the answer

FudFomo

Just buy 80% SPY and 20% UPRO and you will beat SPY without the concentration risk. Or full port SSO, you’ll have the same volatility and drawdowns as all these meme stock picks but good long term returns. Or QLD if you want tech, its better then 100% in just 8 tech names. If you asked this question in 1999 people would have told you to buy JDSU, CSCO, INTC, QCOM, WCOM, SUNW, DELL, ORCL. Some went to zero, some were dead money for 10-20 years.

User4f52

Boring? Then buy 2x QQQ: QLD. Big risk if the tech market becomes choppy. If it grows you get 2x leverage returns on an index with already huge growth

blackgenz2002kid

yep, rolled some of my SGOV into QLD today

CursedClownz

Yeah should have got some QLD WITH SSO

Opposite_Cattle5953

Fuck bears. I’ve been 99% QQQ since 2020. The remaining 1% is QLD and a little sprinkle of ASTS.

CalebVanPoneisen

SPY for top 500 QQQ for top 100 QLD for top 100 x2 TQQQ for top 100 x3 Anything higher than that?

manlymatt83

If you had to pick one: $2000 in MUU $4000 in SOXL $8000 in TQQQ $16000 in QLD … delete the app never look again. What would you pick?

TheBlackBaron

Tomorrow morning I'm selling all my QLD and putting it into KORU.

stefpix

Voo is boring, when you can buy SPMO, SGRT and FMTM. I would buy soxl only little by little on red days when it drops between 5% and 15%. The more it drops the more I would buy. Usually drops after NVDA earnings but it is hard to tell. Maybe at this level it’s better to buy 2x leveraged USD and QLD.

Dornitz

I mean QLD is literally dragging me out of the trenches rn. Most insane month of investing ive ever seen.

WallStreetBoners

But actually QLD is a banger long term hold probably

109_Le_Banane

I did do it a couple weeks ago by going all in on QLD and SSO which lead to a 15% gain on both. Around 30k gain I recall. The data suggests that I hold this no matter how hard it drops and stick to my investment plan of gradually de-leveraging it.

109_Le_Banane

I went all in with QLD and SSO the week before and had a 15% gain on both

Ahamadrayasbaboon

SSO, UPRO for SP. People use QLD and TQQQ for the Q’s, but I don’t mess with those. 

ddrsdght

Why shouldn’t I full port my retirement in QLD

RecommendationFit996

But my returns have been better than average since I also hold some leveraged etfs (SSO, QLD, UYG, ERX and SOXL), and my single stocks are in growing tech driven sectors.

greyenlightenment

lol why would anyone buy Netflix when they can just buy QLD or something . more upside and no random 8% dumps

OrdinaryLanguage5625

Man, you have $3 Million! Stop gambling and just put it in QLD or TQQQ if you want more risk. Just buying bonds at 4% would give you $120k per year even though I would still prefer QLD/TQQQ. Don't end up being the pure redartium guy here (you are probably too smart, but who knows with options).

greyenlightenment

lol btc what a rug pull. why would anyone buy this shit instead of QLD or semis

Dornitz

Im 100% QLD. Bud

tyetyemn

Listen closely - on the first of each month, invest $1,000 into QLD. Do this every month for the next 20 years. Retire at age 39 with $6,000,000 This is the quickest, safest, smartest way to build wealth. Ignore people who it wont because it’s a leveraged etf. It does work if you dollar cost average like this. I’ve back tested this a hundred different ways. God speed

Interesting_Paint524

I bought some QLD and MSFT

GetOutNubs

Any stock market recovery will annihilate your SQQQ position. I’ll happily keep loading up on QLD.

No-Consequence-8768

Zero sense. PSQ is an exact opposite of TQQQ in 1x form. You mean QQQ or QLD!

Rounder221

Full port QLD?

Feltzinclasp5

Half cash, XIC, QLD, UGL, UCO, RDDT (ironic)

understated_vibes

The issue isn’t whether the index goes up long term, it’s how it gets there. Leveraged ETFs like SSO and QLD reset daily, so returns depend heavily on the path, not just the endpoint. In a smooth bull run, they can outperform. But if the market is volatile or sideways, that daily reset starts working against you and erodes returns over time. That’s why most people keep their core in unlevered exposure, then layer in higher growth or alternative plays like VCX separately rather than relying on leverage for long-term compounding.

shinobi-dragonninja

I am testing this thesis as well. I started a couple years ago. SSO and QLD is a part of my portfolio and I DCA almost equally into a basketful of tickers. So far SSO and QLD are holding up ok. The view will depend on when you enter and how long you are in so YMMV. Why not dip your toes in and make it a small part of your portfolio and see for yourself

Mzajoj

$GMGMF $GMG Graphene Mfg Group out of QLD has proprietary plasma graphene process. $HGRAF has detonation process. If anyone can explain the difference to me, I am all ears. LMK Either way both doing well

TaxFraudCPA

Honestly I’ve given up on SPY options. Holding cash to dca on SSO and QLD until you know who is no longer supreme leader of America.

Scottoulli

Just tell me when to drop 25k on QLD

earthcomedy

Wow...your comment has just led me to discover some amazing things on Gemini: **85% of USA West Coast Jet Fuel Imports** come directly from South Korea! thus --> **15–20% of total demand** for jet fuel on the West Coast is met by these imports. The Military Kicker This isn't just about commercial flights to Maui. South Korean refiners like **GS Caltex** and **SK Energy** hold direct contracts to supply the **US Military** with JP-5 and JP-8 (military-grade jet fuel). We have reached a point where the US Pacific fleet and West Coast airbases are structurally dependent on Korean refineries—which, as we discussed, are **70–80% dependent on the Persian Gulf** crude currently being blocked by the conflict with Iran. ; --- and this is what u referred to. The "bonehead" label is a sentiment shared by many Australian industrial and security analysts right now. The decision to dismantle domestic refining was driven by a 20-year transition toward "economic efficiency" over "sovereign security," essentially betting that the global supply chain would never break. # The Great Refined-Product Gamble For decades, Australia had a robust refining sector. However, the logic that led to the current state was purely financial: * **The "Asian Super-Refinery" Effect:** Massive, modern refineries in Singapore, South Korea, and India achieved economies of scale that Australia’s smaller, aging plants couldn’t match. It became significantly cheaper to buy refined petrol from Singapore than to refine it in Victoria or Western Australia. * **Corporate Exits:** Global majors like BP and ExxonMobil saw the writing on the wall. They shuttered plants like **Kwinana (2021)** and **Altona (2021)** because they weren't profitable. * **Government Inaction:** Successive governments (both Liberal and Labor) largely allowed these closures, prioritizing lower pump prices and "market forces" over the cost of maintaining strategic infrastructure. # The Current "Two-Refinery" Reality As of March 2026, Australia is down to just **two** operational refineries: 1. **Viva Energy (Geelong, VIC)** 2. **Ampol (Lytton, QLD)** Together, they provide less than **25%** of Australia’s fuel needs. To keep even these two alive, the government had to pass the **Fuel Security Act in 2021**, which effectively pays them a "subsidy" (the Fuel Security Services Payment) just to stay open until at least 2027. # The Middle East Hook The "Bonehead" math works like this: * **90%** of Australia's liquid fuel is imported. * Most comes from **Singapore and South Korea**. * Those hubs get **70–80%** of their crude from the **Persian Gulf**. If the Strait of Hormuz stays closed due to the current conflict, the Singapore "refining bridge" fails. Even if Australia tries to buy crude from the US or elsewhere, they no longer have the physical plants to turn that crude into the diesel and jet fuel that the ADF and the trucking industry require.

scott0482

I just can’t justify buying anything but QLD lately.

RecommendationFit996

VOO, SPMO, IWY, GDE, but safe is a relative term. If you have a 20 year time horizon, I personally would take market risk and not worry about drawdowns. In fact, if you get a substantial drawdown, there is a way that I have successfully used. You sell a small percent of these funds and buy some leveraged etfs of something similar like SSO/QLD (2x leveraged etfs) and an even smaller piece of UPRO and TQQQ (3x leveraged etfs) until you portfolio gets back on its feet. Then unwind the leverage and put the money back into the original etfs Works like a charm and gets your portfolio back on track in a far shorter timeframe than simply holding

AICHEngineer

Voltargeting isnt a worthless idea. Its kinda like a trend filter. If you think about an SMA strategy like a 200 or 220 or 250 day, fairly long lookback, most high volatility days cluster beneath the SMA line and thats when you get out of levered positions. DVQQ/SP went down to ~50% exppsure during april, but they took a while to catch the rebound and missed some of the biggest days when trump would rugpull tarrif expectations. Then during the nice low vol summer they went almost 2x exposure and regained a lot of lost ground. But to me, WEBs is just solving the wrong problem with these products, and the fact that it costs 0.96% makes them worthless. Not to mention the costs of the swaps when they go long leverage. For reference, even a simple 220day SMA -/+1% buffer that switches between 100% QQQ and 50/50 QQQ/Cash did 4% higher CAGR than DVQQ since its inception, and going 2x vs 50/50 depending on the SMA signal still did 2%cagr better over the timeframe (had to eat that 40% QLD drawdown into liberation day). Some bad things about the company from their prospectus: "The Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) has not approved or disapproved these securities or passed upon the accuracy or adequacy of this Prospectus." And Syntax's website is hard to find since they changed their name to WEBs ETF trust. In sumary: DVQQ is going to delist, I can almost guarantee it. They dont even have 4M AUM after a year. They have produced *higher* volatility than QQQ for half the CAGR while charging 0.96% ER vs QQQM at 0.15%. Also theyre not even kosher with the SEC yet. DVSP will almost certainly delist for the same reason. WEBs is a small hack shop riding the wave of niche over financialized ETF offerings charging 0.6-1.1 ER for things like options buffering, covered calls, vol targeting, put spread inclme, etc. All of these are bad.

FudFomo

You need growth at your age, not dividends or bonds. Some btc, some gold, some leveraged tech (QLD) are good, but 80% in VT and you can set and forget.

99Fan

I have USD and QLD. Good on tech in my portfolio

Christron

For those that can't afford QQQ options look at QLD

Christron

Oh I bought QLD instead damn

Christron

QLD options this month. With all these tech stock earnings this month QQQ will pump.

bb1180

What sell-off? This has been a good month for me. Even my IRA, which is just broad index funds and a bit of QLD, is up 1.5% since the start of the year.

african_cheetah

I trimmed a bit on Greenland news from QLD and moved to UGL. Too much whipsaw.

greyenlightenment

long QLD, shorting bitcoin free money machine

SnS2500

You can hold 2x leveraged for longer periods, but they will have greater volatility decay than normal stocks. However the past year GOOGL 72% while GGLL is up 140% so in good times it does not really matter. In bad times, 2x obviously will be bad. 2x can make most sense in something like a Roth, where you have no ability to add above the maximum yearly amount, and where you can easily sell the 2x if the market goes to crap or you change your opinion on Google's prospects. The way to probably not use 2x is to buy 50k of GGLL and blow another 50k (or leave 50k in savings). Normally you would be better off just buying 100k of the stock. Most negative comments about leverage are about 3x, where decay is much more problematic. For example, the past year 1x QQQ is +24%, while 2x QLD is +38% and 3x TQQQ is +47%. The 3x did not even manage to do 2x better than QQQ, but of course it also did significantly better dollar for dollar. There certainly is no harm in buying a few shares of GGLL, and then seeing how you feel about it some weeks from now. Also check out r/LETFs to talk with more people who hold leveraged ETFs for longer periods.

RecommendationFit996

Honestly, my two favorite funds would be a 70/30 split with VOO and QQQM. Reinvest dividends and don’t touch it unless there is a major pullback. Upon a major pullback, sell some of each and instantly invest those funds straight back into SSO and QLD or even pick up some UPRO and TQQQ and let it ride. You’ll thank me later

BigWarning8696

If we ever have a 30+% correction, switch to QLD

Nuclear_N

I buy out as far as I can buy. I own QLD at 50 and 60, which I just bought. There are only 5 open interests on 50 and I own two of them. I just sold 45 from last year and doubled in a year.

bb1180

TQQQ and QLD, at around 1% and 7%, respectively. 85% is VOO, SPMO and QQQM, with the remainder in SMH.

bb1180

About 4%, plus another 2.5% that is mostly QLD. The rest is VOO, QQQM, SPMO, and several CEFs that have good long term (20+ years) track records.

Ok_Employment_192

Well true, you have to withstand some volatility, but if the leverage is not too high they also work well as a long term investment. Look for instance at the 2x nasdaq100 etf (QLD). Despite falling down by ~50% in 2022, the gain over the last 10 years is >1000%.

live4failure

I'm new to options. I previously swing/day trade but I have low starting capital($2000). I'm up 49% with 82 win rate in 1Y. Mostly traded fast moving stocks, QQQ, income etfs, covered call etfs, and recently QLD/SSO. Last week I tried my first 3 options by using limit orders and no stop loss. Would love feedback if anyone wants to connect lol. My goal next year is to step it up. I want to start implementing accumulation of LETFs w hedge, options wheel, and a few researched options picks for a rewarding strategy to stay aligned and gain more risk vs reward. All funds are managed daily in my Roth IRA on Webull. Also reinvested and rebalanced when positions are closed. My challenges are learning many different option strategies. What level my entry should be at and predicting profitability. What DTE to play to lock in gains and get favorable prices. How to determine when to sell to avoid decay but not miss juicy premium. Basically how to extract profits without blowing shit up. I normally swing trade between 3 days to a month but usually miss opportunities at longer timeframes.

AssCrackBandit10

Good looks I wish there was an easier way to switch profitable holdings without getting a huge tax bill. Like this QQQ for QQQM or I have a ton of TQQQ that I would like to swap for QLD or something a bit less risky but I don’t want to pay thousands in capital gains tax. I don’t have nearly enough losses to offset my gains in TQQQ or QQQ

AssCrackBandit10

Not at all. I’m still dumping every penny I have into tech stocks and QQQ/QLD

rwc5078

Does anyone here own shares? I do! TQQQ baby Slowly selling that off and buying QLD

Inevitable_Butthole

QLD is the safer pay with great returns. You'll either want to dca into it over a decent period of time (years) or wait for a correction (yes these happen often) and lump sum in

Rich_Factor_7026

Sorry, should have clarified. I now contribute $6k a month. In 2023 I received a tax free settlement of 46k that I put the entire amount into investments. Also, in 2022, I started in September and maxed out my 401k that year, and have front loaded maxing out the $401k with catch up since. I also front loaded backdoor Roth Ira’s as well and then move on to the rest in a brokerage account. In 401k about as aggressive as I can with the offerings. In the brokerage account, mostly QLD and SSO.

rwc5078

I am slowly selling off my tqqq that I bought on large corrections and then buying QLD on these smaller dips

EightFolding

I keep 10% TQQQ in my growth-focused brokerage account along with growth and theme etfs, as a kind of mirror of what I do in my IRA but buy and hold ETFs instead of actively managed stocks. The 10% isn't enough to cause a problem but enough to significantly boost returns overall. Higher peaks but the dips are no lower than it would be without it. The past isn't the future, but you could have held QLD or TQQQ for the past decade and done incredibly well, even the worst dips were still higher than the index after you held for at least a year. Keep it small and it's safe. Or set up a system where you exit if it hits the 200ma and re-enter when it crosses back above.

Necessary-Ad-6254

There is a letf reddit. And people post many strategy. I think not many people buy and hold leverage etf, they go in and out and rebalance because it is so risky. I also want to point out there is sso, 2x voo. I think YTD QLD outperform SSO, but I think for 5 years SSO and QLD is really close, most likely due to decay. So if you want slight lower risk, SSO is also an option. During a market crash qqq might crash 30%, but voo 20%. I think you can also don't use leverage, for example buy spmo. I think spmo 5 year is 135%, and qld 173%. For some strange reason in recent years spmo don't drop much during market crash. I think another strategy is only use leverage after a crash. Many ways to play around with it.

lankamonkee

QLD is probably fine but you get fucked in the rare time markets trade sideways for an extended period of time

k0unitX

I can assure you nothing on testfolio is broken. Remember, this is $500 a month invested into TQQQ since 1995, with that $500 adjusted for inflation as time goes on, so it will always eventually "recover". In theory. But yes, you need balls of steel. QLD / Nasdaq 2x is probably more palatable for most normal humans.

Phiziqe

Since OP is a teenager, in HS? Here’s a sincere financial advice I wish I knew when I was your age. Buy the dip of M7 stocks like NVDA, TSLA, APPL, MSFT, buy index ETF like SPY, VOO, TQQQ, QLD. And forget about it till you graduate college. Don’t touch penny stocks nor options nor futures (derivatives) and etc. This is the only safe way so ignore other paths. Nobody genuinely cares about your small $2k bag except yourself so listen to me.

Machine8851

Maybe look at QLD instead which is 2x QQQ.

gn1tmac

because in the long term... the nasdaq will have a 50% decline at some point, you're effectively going to lose 99% of whatever you have in it. if you plan on dollar cost averaging, use QLD, its 2x. the 3x leveraged ETF's just don't work with market declines over 20%

scott0482

Been buying this recently. Not sure if I should turn on drip or put dividends into QLD. But in a good correction I am getting TQQQ. I bought everything month in 2022 and 2023 like clockwork.

WellAintThatShiny

DRIP stands for dividend reinvestment program. It’s where you automatically reinvest your divs back into the stock or fund. DCA means you just keep contributing the same amount each paycheck regardless of price. QLD is just a 2x leveraged QQQ. And QQQI is a covered call fund for QQQ. I prefer holding a split of those two to QQQ itself.

Admirable-Sun8230

both QLD and QQQ Imove similarly. DCA and DRIP... is tht the program where you lend out your stocks and you just keep holding the stocks?

WellAintThatShiny

Around 15% on the year with that account. QLD is to take advantage of bull markets, QQQI is for sideways markets. If we’re in a bear market, whatever. That’s why I DCA and DRIP my QQQI dividends, if the market continues its long term growth then it should perform fine in the long term.

WellAintThatShiny

2x leverage is generally accepted to be the best long term hold. SSO for S&P, QLD for the Nasdaq. For me, I hold QLD and QQQI in my ‘invest and forget’ account.

Dornitz

Yeah and imagine your all in on QLD rn.

NW-McWisconsin

QLD, TQQQ, XAR, SMH.... I might even buy a little SQQQ <$13, for the next "correction".

Life-Boysenberry955

I just recently reduced my exposure on some volatile ass stocks and put more money on the dips into QLD and SPUU. Just double the indexes. Personally, I needed to reduce my risk as I maxed mine out. A portion of my portfolio I like to just set and forget - and the decay in the doubles is no where near the decay of triple leverage positions. I’m just 1 decade of experience in the market though but my portfolio has done very well!

StandardAd239

I'm assuming your entire portfolio is in TQQQ and QLD. You're killing it dude, good job.

bears2broke

#FUK well I’m selling one of my houses for $650K and I might dump into QLD if we keep dropping

k0unitX

You don't need options income, you need (at least some) leverage. SSO, UPRO, QLD, QQUP, BTGD, BEGS etc

dbslurker

I sell any leveraged funds like QLD that are long. Also selling some qqqm but I wanted to move a bit to schg anyway once I time the market perfectly I’ll buy low, fool proof plan here. 

k0unitX

QQQM is good. I would drop the single stocks and replace them with similarly volatile (but high expected return) instruments like crypto, precious metals and/or leveraged large cap (IBIT, GLDM, BTGD, BEGS, QQUP, QLD etc) A safer place to park your money but still get decent returns is STRC, especially if you're a crypto believer

Fantastic_Union3100

Backtesting (simulation) aside, I bought QLD (2x QQQ) in September 2009, split adjusted cost base is $1.42, and current price of QLD is \~$140, almost x100 of initial investment. My only regret is I only bought 100 shares back then, and after five 2 for 1 splits (another 2-1 split comes next week), I currently hold 3,200 shares.

Nuclear_N

I think high risk is any leverage fund...QLD, SPYU, TQQQ, etc. I have been holding QLD for an over a year. Most say it is not for long holds, but it is about doubled. But when there is a crash, which there will be this will be hit hard.

CAFN8TD

QQQ if not worried about high growth, high risk. IVW not a bad option either. Or QLD.

DankDealz

My personal theory is our economy will be in a "melt-up" for the foreseeable future. Why? Because of past precedent, and several upcoming events. Past precedent is when the economy shows signs of slowing down in terms of the job market, or when the stock market cools, then the federal reserve will typically try to inject stimulus/liquidity into the market by either cutting rates or printing money, sometimes both. If there are recession indicators, the fed will proactively take action to course correct and "keep the party going." The federal government keeps spending more money.  Deficit grows year over year.  National debt is nearly 38 trillion.  Debt to GDP ratio is near unsustainable levels, over 100%.  The government doesn't want to raise taxes, but it doesn't want to cut social programs either.   The interest payments to service our national debt are one of our nation's largest expenditures, greater than the defense budget. International demand for U.S. treasuries is falling.  Now gold is the largest reserve asset held by foreign central banks, a radical shift away from a decades long trend of U.S. treasuries being the primary reserve asset. The fed has managed to reduce a large portion of its balance sheet over the past few years, but it's slowing that rate and now it's opening up its repo facility vehicle once again to buy overnight assets. The U.S. treasury market got exposed earlier this year during our first stalemate with China, after a week of a trade war the yield curve and treasury demand was unsustainable.  Trump TACOed and we are mostly posturing against a strong Chinese economy which supplies a lot of things that we simply don't have the capacity to make, and we won't be able to make for years. BRICs nations are increasing their gold reserves, the dollar's dominance is fading in the short term.  In the long term, stable coins may be used to increase treasury demand, lower the yield rates, and serve as a sponge to soak up excess debt and dollars, and extend the demand for the dollar as a safe haven asset to economies around the world.  If successful, this will allow the federal reserve and US government to continue printing and spending as per usual without any short term reckoning for the looming debt problems. There is a disconnect between corporate profits and stock valuations.  Stock prices have risen disproportionately and corporate earnings have not kept up. Most of the S&P 500 has been growing at a very modest rate, the Magnificent 8 has accounted for most market cap growth and now these 8 companies make up roughly 40% of the S&P500. Real inflation is well above the federal reserves 2-3% target, and inflation will continue for as long as the QE / stimulus / rate cuts continue. The M2 money supply is at all time highs, and the amount of money in circulation is growing. What this all means is yes, there is essentially a stock market bubble.  The upper class and upper middle class have a healthy surplus of dollars and they will continue to invest and drive valuations higher.  This bubble can continue for many, many years.  Fed policy and government spending will determine when the bubble pops, if ever.  We may just be seeing minor 3-5% corrections a few times a year, with the occasional 10%+ drawdown every few years.  The market can continue to make record highs. Also, federal reserve seats are going to be open and the Trump admin is likely going to nominate candidates that will run the economy hot.  There are 12 regional bank seats opening up for reappointment or replacement in February 2026.  While reappointment is the norm, this is also a chance to make change bank presidents which can influence fiscal policy.  Also, Jerome Powell's appointment as Fed Chair is expiring May 2026.  Trump loves to make the stock market go up, even if it means higher inflation, more QE, more money printing, etc. So how do we weather the likely oncoming inflationary melt up?  Preserve your purchasing power by investing in high quality growth oriented mag 8 companies, consider adding some leveraged QLD or TQQQ as a small allocation, invest in gold (the #1 reserve asset held by central banks, and the worldwide supply of gold increases by about 1% annually, compare that to the amount of money in circulation increasing by 4-5% per year recently.)  Also invest a small amount of your portfolio in Bitcoin which has outperformed the stock market most years, despite it's extremely volatility.  There is a finite supply of Bitcoin and a high Bitcoin price / larger Bitcoin market cap benefits the US government since the govt is using stablecoins as a means to increase demand for U.S. debt. Safe and invest your excess fiat, because the long term trend over the coming decades is dollar devaluation in order to increase monetary supply, increase liquidity, devalue our debt, and lower our debt to GDP ratio.   It's an interesting time in our nation's history, and although the economic landscape is changing, the economy is still relatively healthy, the stock market will continue to grow, and the dollar will remain a powerful and influential currency, although perhaps a little weaker in the long term.  There's still great investment opportunities we just need to be safe.

aminbae

no way this is 2015 probably 2014 or before https://totalrealreturns.com/n/VFINX,USDOLLAR,QQQ,QLD?start=2015-01-01 stop with the crap

personaljournal325

QLD is a 2x keveraged etf, and leverage in QLD resets daily. It is meant for short term trading, not long term investing as you get absolutely cooked in any market drops. Ex: QQQ vs QLD starting with $100 day 1: market up 10% QQQ at $110 QLD at $120 (2x leverage so up 20%) Day 2: market down 9% QQQ at $100.1 QLD at $98.4 (down 18%) Over time the compounding will do it's work and keep you behind an unleveraged ETF. Bull runs like the 2010s are not common and are one of the few instances leveraged ETFs actually did well in the medium term. Best bet for long term leverage is a slight amount of margin.

StandardAd239

Ok. First question: do you know what QLD is?

StandardAd239

Long term and you can handle massive (like straight up anxiety inducing) swings without being kept up at night? QLD. But never go 100% in anything. Always diversify.

4pooling

Go for the 2x versions, QLD (NDX) or SSO (SPX). Couple with 2x long duration treasuries (UBT). Look into the HFEA strategy. We could be approaching a dovish, quantitative easing environment, so long duration bonds will appreciate in value as yields drop. I haven't executed any variation of the HFEA strategy, but I'm interested in trying now that I have a larger portfolio. I may allocate about $100K (around 13.5%) of my current total portfolio for this strategy in the next serious downturn. Or I might just chicken out and just keep buying the S&P 500 as I've always done.

Nuclear_N

Nice. I only did QLD out of kind humor. Leveraging a leveraged ETF.

BillsFan504

No reason not to. I think most of us realize this makes more sense (especially given the erosion of our dollar and keeping up with inflation), but for most, having a levereged asset of any kind makes sleep less comfortable. I held QLD for a while and loved it. It had a good run and I thought I could time a new entry, but then it just kept going up.

Nuclear_N

I have seen all this before....saying you can't do this. But when I look at SPYU it is 400% in the 5 year. I wouldn't put all my money there....but I own a small holding of QLD long. From what I see if you hold long enough it will come back. When we have a pull back these leverage funds are the buy and hold.

Heimdalls_Schnitzel

Buy more QLD and GLD calls

Nuclear_N

Leverage funds like QLD, TQQQ. Of course options is huge risk/reward.

greyenlightenment

you pair the crypto short with tech longs, QLD is a safe bet

Fluffy-Structure-368

I personally would hold off for a 10% dip and put half in 3x levered index ETFs. SPXL, QLD, and UDOW and then i would invest the rest when the market moved 5% in either direction from there.

Little_Money_8009

Would be better to do a 2x ETF like SSO or QLD imo.

appleoftwoeyes

I plan to invest in QQQ and QLD over the next three months, allocating approximately 30% to QQQ and 70% to QLD. In my view, the majority of stocks are expected to experience solid gains over the next 6–9 months