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Boeing's Dip Sparks Rise in AAL, RACE, WEN Stocks
TESLA is on SALE! Do you buy the stock? Buy the car? Or neither? 10-20% off your choice, 14 million members should tell us
Don't listen to shills, self-delusion is the best delusion
Ferrari stock accelerates as the automaker drives past earnings expectations (NYSE:RACE)
$GCT - Huge win yesterday - Will it Squeeze today?
Stocks you own because you’re a fan of the company?
GME and why it matters SO much more than you think!
$TGHI - Touchpoint Group Holdings’ AIR RACE Announces Agreement to host Air Race World Championship Event
$TGHI Touchpoint Group Holdings’ AIR RACE Announces Agreement to Host Air Race World Championship Event in Indonesia
Worried about my holdings..... would appreciate your perspective.
How do I convince my mother that this is literally not the moment to buy a brand new 40k car?
Ferrari (RACE) showing signs of distribution. Too many Lambos I guess
RaceCar Pattern forming on $RACE
How I'm tryna be after buying shares of $RACE
FSR RACE TO THE MOON, return to 32, f*** let’s double that. Henrik Fisker arguably the best car designer of man kind, possible apple partnership, Fisker emotion. FSR WE TRUST
SPCE Virgin Galactic is primed for launch and a couple of test flights away from full commercial operations. I visited Spaceport America for last month's test flight. It was incredible. THE NEW SPACE RACE IS HERE.
NIO After Earnings, Analysis, and Valuation
$FOX FOXFINANCE SPACE RACE?🚀🌜 What do you think?? Check out Foxfinance.io
My fellow apes, thank you for returning for a humble primate. i have deduced that i for one, like the stock, and doubled down from 15 to 35 shares. FLY ME TO THE MOON, LET ME PLAY, AMONGST THE SPACE APE RACE🦍🚀🚀🚀
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RACE does not fall into the accessible luxury group.
Ferrari stock is trending on yahoo, ticker is $RACE
I’m more of a Lambo guy, myself. $RACE
Oooooof I bought RACE calls way too early fuck
$RACE as red as their Ferraris
loading up on RACE calls today.
RACE down almost $100 holy shit
RACE you back to Ferrari, 500+ end of month
$RACE (ferrari) just lost 14% on a not so bad 2030 guidance, maybe a good moment for a short call?
#RACE down -14%. Bad day for racism. LMAO🤌
Time to full port RACE calls?????
February calls on RACE. Easiest Italian money ever.
CALLS on RACE. February.
RACE dropping because expected EV share of lineup is adjusted from 40% to 20% by 2030. Are EV sales that much better than ICE sales? Should it not be good that they adjust expectations to customers demands?
# RACE on sale. buy now
Bruh RACE dropping earnings expectations 5 years from now really made it drop 12% that’s retarded
RACE to the bottom... Though I bought a share just to brag
wth happened with RACE?
It's going to happen. Bezos is already signaling it as recent as 03 Oct. Which means now Musk and Jensen will have to 1 up him. >The concept of orbital data centres has gained traction among tech giants as those on Earth have driven up demand for electricity and water to cool their servers. >"These giant training clusters, those will be better built in space, because we have solar power there, 24/7. There are no clouds and no rain, no weather," Bezos said in a public conversation with Ferrari (RACE.MI), opens new tab and Stellantis (STLAM.MI), opens new tab Chairman John Elkann. >"We will be able to beat the cost of terrestrial data centres in space in the next couple of decades." Bezos said the shift to space infrastructure is part of a broader trend of using space to improve life on Earth. >"It's already happened with weather and communication satellites," he said. "The next step is data centres, then other kinds of manufacturing."
AMZN COST RACE Couple others too
Wegman’s if they were public. Atomic Coffee Roasters if they were public, too (New England area roaster). AMZN, AAPL, GOOG, Kimberly-Clark (shout out to my favorite TP), Colgate-Palmolive, BAC, Schwab, I’ll also lie and say Ferrari (RACE) but that’s just because I like the symbol.
There are good European companies like SAP and Spotify and RACE and others. They’re just not the fancy big names like NVIDIA, Apple, Microsoft, Netflix, Google and Meta etc etc.
The companies I feel strongest about right now are ASML and FICO. FICO is the one I've been buying after entering a position last week. I sold RACE completely to buy in. RACE is close to fair value, but I feel like the fear in FICO stock makes it a wonderful opportunity in my eyes. RACE is a quality company, and will see long term sales growth with the Purosangue and continual Hybrid adoption. On my watchlist, companies like MSCI, CSU (Which I own), DUOL, NU, and GOOG (which I own) look interesting at current valuations.
Google gemini probably wins the AI RACE
Yo I’m all in on deep British value stocks. Rode this bitch up to a 10xer and got out… Been buying ARGGY as the next cycle play. They are a mini $RACE in the making. Very compelling story- Lawrence Stroll is not a moron and this thing will eventually print or get bought out by a luxury tycoon.
I have to think RACE would be one of the worst stocks to own in a global recession. It has exploded over the last few years with massive increase in Ferrari production. The production is so much higher than in the past that the used market will impact the new market.
RACE is a screaming buy here right now
I mean, not that anyone online wants to hear it, but valuations do matter. I think newer investors would really do themselves a favor to start thinking in terms of valuation, even if it takes some stocks much longer to trade on valuation than others. Multiples to net earnings and top line revenue are important because they tell you what you are actually buying and you need to decide, in the case of high PE and/or high PS for growth cos, whether you feel there is enough realistic growth potential to buy it for its current price. RACE is trading at a PE of 46 and a PS of 20. Think about what that means. If you were buying a business that sold super luxury cars and ran racing teams and netted you $100k, would you be comfortable buying it for $4.6M? You would have to assume a big growth in sales or margin. In this case sales, because margin is already pretty high. If it only $230k in sales would you be confident you keep that margin for the foreseeable future? At this price, that is what you are betting as an investor, more or less.
I could not resist the temptation. I entered a position in FICO and sold out of RACE to fund it.
Sorry for your lost, my first post in here. I did 6 hours of reading this sub lastnight. Don't know what you are, a person, group of friends or a firm. DON'T CARE. Tired of the fucking RAT RACE. I'm IN. show me the way. YOLO. Need some guidance in options never place one, adding options to my account today. Show me the way skipper
Been patient on RACE to see if I can add a bit more at a steeper discount. ASML always looks interesting but I did my adds there during Mangomania. NTDOY (ticker for Nintendo 7974 ADR) is one I will be adding to if there are any sell offs after earnings. I'm also looking to see if there's any dips in MCO or SPGI now that the Trump Admin seems like it'll force the FED to drop interest rates. On the watchlist, MELI and AMD are two that I've had my eye on over the past couple of months but I haven't touched them yet.
Geopolitical experts, professors, and analysts say this. I'm not making it up lol. >You know you gotta speak Dutch to get Dutch citizenship? Crazy fascists over there This is fascism to you? 🤣 Holy desperation >They have a fucking king Whats his role does your gut feeling tell you? Do you understand how the world works outside the US? He's there for ceremonial shit. He doesn't even get a military parade unlike your king 😂 >currently enduring periodic race riots a RACE riot???? 🤣 what's that exactly? >What specific criteria do you use? Literally any international benchmark or institutional measurement. For example, the freedom index, quality of life index, corruption index, you name it.. the US scores dogshit on them, and just as an example, NL miles ahead of your lack of freedoms, transparency, and whats left of what you call democracy. NL is more free than your two party system >the world outside of your bubble. I've lived in 6 countries including the US so I know there is at least one enormous bubble on this planet
I've looked at it before but never bought it. It does have a strong brand but idk I'm just worried that they'll fall into a slump like LVMH. If there's any RACE bulls, I'd be happy to hear the bull case.
RACE-ssion!!! https://preview.redd.it/7g4wdj6ao38f1.jpeg?width=373&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=304cafcbb792637c3270c9d81cb44a477c578a54
Black swan event tomorrow. Loaded up on $BB, $BLK, $NG, $WEED, $BBC, $RACE, $BJ
They are a generalist conglomerate now, nothing luxurious or special anymore. Just buy Hermes’ or RACE if you want exposure to luxury sector
I actually entered into RACE during liberation day. Not a contrarian play so much as a play on the tariffs not holding, alongside an ever widening inequality gap which is minting more millionaires by the day. Ferrari is essentially a luxury goods company masquerading as a car company that is extremely well managed (aside from their Formula Meme team). Their top line regularly grows in the mid to high teens through their pricing tiers, they've been quick to catch onto Hybrid vehicles, are still tapping into the SUV market, and their vehicles are limited in release (they have large order books that outstrip their purposefully limited supply). Their FCF growth is aggressive despite being playing in a capital intensive industry, and have optionality around their licensing/branding deals. I don't think the company is cheap at these prices but I was buying when the price made sense and I felt comfortable in my understanding of the company.
With the Indy 500 tomorrow and Claude 4 just coming out, I asked Opus to make a mashup: "Parody the S&P 500 stock index, in the style of Indy 500 coverage" **LIVE FROM THE WALL STREET MOTOR SPEEDWAY - IT'S THE S&P 500!** *\[Engine roaring sounds of opening bell\]* "GOOD MORNING RACE FANS! Welcome to another thrilling day at the S&P 500, where 500 of America's finest corporate machines are revving their earnings engines for what promises to be a SPECTACULAR trading session! I'm your host, bringing you all the high-octane action from the world's most prestigious financial raceway!" **STARTING GRID UPDATE:** * **Pole Position:** NVIDIA, running on pure AI rocket fuel * **Row 2:** Apple and Microsoft, the veteran champions * **Back of the Pack:** Several retail stocks still changing their tires from yesterday's blowout "AND THEY'RE OFF! The opening bell waves the green flag and—OH MY! Tech stocks absolutely LAUNCH off the line! NVIDIA is already gapping the field by 2.5%! But wait—here comes JPMorgan Chase drafting behind, trying to catch that slipstream of momentum!" "Into Turn 1 of the morning session, and we've got our first CAUTION FLAG! Bed Bath & Beyond has spun out into the bankruptcy wall! Debris on the track, folks—that's going to bring out the volatility pace car!" **PIT STOP ANALYSIS:** "Amazon just pulled into the pits for a quick earnings adjustment—they're swapping out those Q4 projections for something with a bit more grip! The crew chief (Jeff Bezos, watching from his yacht box) gives the thumbs up!" "UNBELIEVABLE! Tesla is trying a THREE-WIDE MOVE through the semiconductor sector! Elon's tweeting from the driver's seat again—that's a risky strategy, Cotton!" **LAP 150 - LUNCH HOUR REPORT:** "The midday sun is brutal on these portfolios! Some of the value stocks are overheating—looking at you, Coca-Cola, running a bit rich on that P/E ratio!" "OH NO! MASSIVE PILE-UP IN THE BANKING SECTOR! Someone mentioned 'interest rates' over the radio and now we've got a 15-stock accident! Regional banks are scattered everywhere! This is going to affect the running order significantly!" **THE FINAL LAPS:** "As we approach the closing bell, Microsoft makes its move on the inside! But Apple's not giving up that market cap position without a fight! They're door-to-door, trading paint through the cloud computing chicane!" "Here comes the checkered flag and—WAIT! LAST SECOND SURGE BY ALPHABET! They've found an extra gear with that AI announcement! **FINAL RESULTS:** 🏁 **Winner:** The Bulls (by 0.73%) 🏁 **Fastest Lap:** NVIDIA (+4.2% on the day) 🏁 **Biggest Crash:** First Republic Bank (DNF - Did Not Finish) 🏁 **Rookie of the Year:** Some random meme stock that gained 300% for absolutely no reason **POST-RACE INTERVIEW:** "Jerome Powell here in Victory Lane, spraying champagne—wait, that's actually quantitative easing fluid! When asked about track conditions, he mentioned something about 'transitory inflation' but nobody knows what that means!" **TOMORROW'S FORECAST:** "Join us tomorrow for the Fed 500, where interest rates will be announced DURING the race! Will the markets stay on track, or will we see another spectacular crash? Remember folks, past performance is no guarantee of future results, but it sure is entertaining!" *\[Sound of cash registers mixed with engine revs\]* "This has been your S&P 500 race coverage! Remember: Keep your portfolios on the track, your stop-losses tight, and your diversification wide! See you at tomorrow's opening bell—START YOUR ENGINES AND YOUR LIMIT ORDERS!"
Why is Ferrari's ticker RACE? Is this a racist company? LMAO
Can i get some $RACE dd please, shit is just a straight lines up and to the right
Buying $RACE cuz no one paying 300k over sticker for Ferrari SUV doesnt give a fuk about price increases
RACE just sacred the F out of me, must be excersizing calls
I was so tempted to buy RACE puts, luckily I didn’t cause Ferrari somehow pumped every thought they said the outlook was bad 
RACE starting to rise up nicely. Vroom, Vroom!
$RACE "Ferrari (RACE, Financial) reported Q1 2025 net revenues of €1.791 billion, a 13% increase year-over-year. The operating profit (EBIT) rose 22.7% to €542 million, with a net profit up 17% to €412 million. Hybrid models made up 49% of shipments, with plans for six new models in 2025. Ferrari N.V. (RACE) delivered strong financial results for the first quarter of 2025, showcasing a robust performance across key metrics. The company reported net revenues of €1.791 billion, marking a 13% increase compared to the same period in 2024. Ferrari shipped 3,593 units, reflecting a slight growth of 1% year-over-year. Operating profit (EBIT) surged by 22.7% to €542 million, resulting in a margin of 30.3%. Net profits climbed to €412 million, showing a 17% rise from the previous year, with diluted earnings per share (EPS) reaching €2.30, an improvement from €1.95 in Q1 2024. The revenue growth was driven by a diverse and enriched product range, including the Ferrari Roma Spider, 296 GTS, SF90 XX family, and Purosangue. Notably, hybrid models comprised 49% of total shipments, emphasizing Ferrari's commitment to electrification. The company also unveiled two new special versions, the 296 Speciale and 296 Speciale A. Looking forward, Ferrari maintains a strong outlook for 2025, projecting revenues exceeding €7.0 billion, a 5% increase from 2024. They anticipate an adjusted EBIT of approximately €2.03 billion and industrial free cash flow around €1.20 billion, representing a growth of 7% and 17%, respectively. Further, to manage new US import tariffs, Ferrari announced potential price increases of up to 10% for certain models, which may affect profitability margins by 50 basis points. Despite these challenges, Ferrari's strategic focus on product mix and its capacity to uphold premium pricing underscores its resilient business model." I did some large repositioning during the liberation day period, selling out of V, MA, and MANH. RACE was one of the two positions I went into as the valuation felt reasonable enough relative to the company's quality management team, pricing power, and brand strength. I'm not surprised to see them managing the current uncertainty well. I'm really happy about the focus on product mix, as shipments only went up 0.9% despite double digit revenue and EPS growth. The key to being a luxury business is ensuring your brand is not diluted through endless supply or incessant low quality releases. The only disappointment I have is their current F1 season :/
Cmon RACE, treat me good. Tell me the 1% are still spilling the dough all over.
Bought some RACE for the morning. Look solid.
puts on RACE what a joke ferrari is
Wild. They hear Elon and immediately get defensive but lack logic. This is why Elon is a genius to most, lack of critical thinking. 1st - Elon smarter than me no doubt there. 2nd - Regulatory requirements will be much lower through a third party, less politics. 3rd - The spending will be more OpEx rather than CapEx. In times of financial uncertainty... why not? 4th - DOGE was a joke. BUT. You don't know DoD if you truly believe there isn't waste. The pricate party has better incentive to perform opposed to an internal team at NASA. (Waste goes into these contracts too. So no doubt it can still exist. ) 5TH - SPACE RACE PEOPLE. We have another opportunity to have the competitive edge. We only pay so much for DoD employees because of benefits. Pay the leading edge startups in the US that want a piece of the pie. Those are your innovators. Bto. I'm just an stnk ape and even I understand all this. Thick skulls must be the trend.
RACE----super rich will buy these cars at any price.
Agreed. Still. They're "sharing the URLs to buy directly". That's news. Bubble boy it is. For your convenience: (Dunno about Ferrari tho.) Here are 10 of the top publicly traded luxury brands, along with their stock tickers and primary listings as of April 2025: 1. LVMH Moët Hennessy Louis Vuitton • Ticker: MC.PA (Euronext Paris) • Overview: The world’s largest luxury conglomerate, owning brands like Louis Vuitton, Dior, Tiffany & Co., and Hennessy. 2. Hermès International • Ticker: RMS.PA (Euronext Paris) • Overview: Renowned for its Birkin bags and leather goods, Hermès boasts some of the highest profit margins in the industry.   3. Kering • Ticker: KER.PA (Euronext Paris) • Overview: Parent company of Gucci, Saint Laurent, and Bottega Veneta, Kering is a major player in the fashion luxury sector.  4. Ferrari N.V. • Ticker: RACE (NYSE) • Overview: Italian luxury sports car manufacturer known for its exclusivity and high-performance vehicles.  5. Moncler S.p.A. • Ticker: MONC.MI (Borsa Italiana) • Overview: Famous for its premium down jackets and recent acquisition of Stone Island, expanding its luxury portfolio.  6. Burberry Group plc • Ticker: BRBY.L (London Stock Exchange) • Overview: Iconic British brand known for its trench coats and distinctive check patterns.  7. Estée Lauder Companies Inc. • Ticker: EL (NYSE) • Overview: A leading global beauty company with a portfolio that includes Estée Lauder, MAC, and La Mer.  8. Tapestry, Inc. • Ticker: TPR (NYSE) • Overview: Owns Coach, Kate Spade, and Stuart Weitzman, offering a range of luxury accessories and footwear.  9. Compagnie Financière Richemont SA • Ticker: CFR.S (SIX Swiss Exchange) • Overview: Swiss-based holding company owning Cartier, Montblanc, and other high-end brands.  10. Prada S.p.A. • Ticker: 1913.HK (Hong Kong Stock Exchange) • Overview: Italian luxury fashion house known for its innovative designs and recent acquisition of Versace.
Definately buying AML and RACE!
See this important info: **Ferrari N.V. (NYSE: RACE) EPS (TTM): $9.26 USD** ,Actual Share price $428,58,- **Porsche Automobil Holding SE (XETRA: PAH3 / OTC: POAHY) EPS (TTM): $11.11 USD** ,Actual Share EU price 32,90€ # 🏎️ Ferrari N.V. (NYSE: RACE) * **Free Cash Flow (TTM)**: $1.58 billion USD * **Free Cash Flow Per Share**: $8.70 USD[Macrotrends+1MarketScreener España+1](https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/RACE/ferrari/free-cash-flow-per-share?utm_source=chatgpt.com) * **Recent Performance**: In 2024, Ferrari's FCF increased by 10.6% year-over-year, reaching $1.031 billion USD. [GráficosFinancieros](https://www.financecharts.com/stocks/RACE/growth/free-cash-flow?utm_source=chatgpt.com) # 🚗 Porsche Automobil Holding SE (XETRA: PAH3 / OTC: POAHY) * **Free Cash Flow (TTM)**: $2.24 billion USD * **Free Cash Flow Per Share**: $7.30 USD * **Recent Performance**: For the period ending June 2024, Porsche SE reported a free cash flow of $1.813 billion USD. * Also you prefer Ferrari for drive ? I prefer make a good Investment and make money.
RACE is better
Their cars are SHIT. don't care how undervalue the stock is. Go buy Ferrari (RACE) instead.
Added to RACE as a safety play, and BDRY based on changes in routes, new ship orders, and lower fuel costs.
Lots of companies are decidedly not on discount. ISRG for example still sits at a lofty valuation. Same with FICO and RACE.
I love how the market always keeps RACE up in times like this. It’s as though they’re poking fun at retail and the blood sucking nature of the market
Hey TSLR let's RACE you little F.
Are the tariffs stacked? Because for European car companies like P911 & RACE, there will be 25% on auto. Is this stacked on the 20% EU aswell? 
Sport cars might not be included in these tariffs measure. They weren't mentioned on the fact sheet. RACE might be the play for April 2nd.
Ferrari, $RACE, says it will raise prices by 10% on some models to offset auto tariffs, per CNBC Im no longer going to be able to afford a Ferrari now Thanks 🥭 
Increased my position in RACE 
Yeah, it’s been rough, no doubt. But this is how pioneers win—fail, learn, improve, dominate. SpaceX blew up rockets before changing space forever. IM-2 took on the hardest lunar landing ever attempted. IM-3, IM-4, and billion-dollar NASA contracts are next. The market is overreacting. If you need more conviction to hold, check out my recent posts. We’re in this together. STRONG HANDS WIN THE RACE. 🚀🌕
RACE nosediving now as well
RACE, after EU tariffs are announced.
it is in my original comment - "QC is garbage, and customers remember that you've mistreated them." when the market goes up, people overlook these issues for the bling. when the economy sours, these sins become dealbreakers. Note, I'm considering that their customer base is largely insulated from lifestyle changes, this is about attitudes towards standards vs. broader sentiment. RACE hasn't got any data of how it performs over a real downturn. AMZN has outperformed it as counter-example. head over to the ferrari forums and read the complaints...
when i’m up: FOOD IS FOR CLOSERS LMAO  when im down: THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION AND ITS CONSEQUENCES HAVE BEEN A DISASTER FOR THE HUMAN RACE 
RACE was one of my biggest market mistakes - one of the first companies I ever bought around $150, then sold I think a bit above $200 when their CEO quit unexpectedly. Just spooked myself and didn't ride out the SUV wave.
RACE is overvalued, but they definitely deserve some sort of valuation premium.
Never realized how overpriced RACE is. My god, those valuations.
Anyone can shine a light as to why RACE (Ferrari) is dropping ? Want to gauge on opening a position.
Tesla will have case studies similar to the tulip craze. With no DD at all surprised me RACE seems pretty overvalued too
I really have no idea why some people in thus sub think that if you just hit some small amount (like 120k in the OP) that you're set for life. I have around 2-2.5m in investments (and around 500k in retirement). I could FIRE on it pulling 80k-100k per year. That's nice and cute and more than enough to live a decent life if I never wanted a family, but I want a family. So I gotta work. And if I have to work anyway, then what the fuck difference does it make? I suppose with it accruing value year over year I could retire sooner, but how much sooner? I'm almost mid-30's now. I might be retiring closer to age 45-50. That's not bad. Now contrast that against a dude who has 120k in his bank account. He ain't FIRE'ing. Even in 20 years, he ain't meaningfully moving the needle on retirement. And the idea of retiring at 50-55 instead of 62-67 isn't _that_ alluring. It's still decades+ of more labor. Nobody is coming to this sub thinking "Oh boy I sure hope I win it big so I can retire at age 55 instead of age 62.5!!!!" TBH unless you pulled enough cash to retire _tomorrow_ (like 5+ million) then I really don't get the "PULL IT OUT AND GET BACK INTO THE RAT RACE!!!" reaction. Fuck that. OP, pay it forward and go hard. Gamble until you retire or suicide. Fuck another 2 decades of working dawg.
I sold off a few minor portion of my portfolio last week VST NTRA vertex RACE portfolio since june 24 currently sits at 13.11% return /unrealized . voo dca was 13.69%. close to beat voo very soon. will sell a few more smaller stickers when market hits fresh records. my observation is that it would hit fresh records very soon and bull market is intact.
Why is noone here talking about $RACE? It has only been going up. 
Cheers to the guy with the DD on RACE earlier this week! Calls paid
$RACE Ferrari reported fourth quarter EPS of $2.14, $0.32 better than the analyst estimate of $1.82. Revenue for the quarter came in at $1.74B versus the consensus estimate of $1.66B. Guidance Ferrari NV sees FY 2025 EPS of $8.60 versus the analyst consensus of $9.00. Ferrari NV sees FY 2025 revenue of $7.00B versus the analyst consensus of $7.15B. Overall product mix has finally shifted this quarter to majority sales of Hybrids over ICE (51/49%), with them suffering less impacts from Chinese sales than the rest of the automotive or luxury goods markets. I think guidance was pretty tepid for the stock to be up so much on opening. It's a phenomenal company, but at it's at a price to sales of over 12 and forward earnings of over 40. It's hard to see a ton of upside unless Ferrari starts aiming real hard at €5 million+ vehicles for the ultra wealthy, something they must be planning as they are known for limiting their car volumes to maintain artificial scarcity.
Okay RACE guess people really be buyin Ferrari cars
my roth atm is 100% the following 5: QXO AZO MCO PRM RACE
Read in Cartman's voice from "RACE WARRRRRRR"
why r u talking about ferrari i dont even see RACE on the pic above 
Roast my port (in order of $): GOOGL, UBER, NVDA, ASTS, RACE, GSAT
DEEPSEEK IS OUR SPUTNIK MOMENT JUST LIKE WE DIDN'T LOSE THE SPACE RACE WE WON'T LOSE THE AI RACE 