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Silver lining, i bought SPGI a few days ago...
Puts on NDAQ, calls on SPGI
Even better, puts on NDAQ, calls on SPGI. Directly fuck over the bootlickers who let this happen
SPGI and MELI I do believe that they are high quality stocks and I do believe that they will print, it's just a matter of how much pain can you handle
Good questions, and the fact that you’re asking puts you ahead of most people who just hold and hope. The main thing is you sell for a reason, not because something went up or because you’re bored. Sell a winner when the reason you bought it stops being true, or when it grows so big that one bad day could wreck you and you need to trim it down to a size you can sleep with. Don’t sell just to lock in gains on something that’s still working. Taking gains for a vacation or a car is fine. The money is there to be used eventually. Just be deliberate about it and watch the taxes on stuff you’ve held a long time. Rebalancing only matters if you have a target to rebalance toward. If you don’t have a strategy yet, that’s the actual first step, decide what you want to own and why. For losers, ask the same question, is the reason you bought it still true. If yes, a lower price can be a chance to add. If no, sell, and don’t wait around for it to “get back to even.” Losses can also offset gains at tax time. Whether any specific position is still worth holding is the one nobody can answer for you. You go name by name and ask if your original reason still holds. Bottom line, write one line for each stock on why you own it and Tbh most of your picks look fine. Only UBER, SPGI, and BKNG are the ones I’m iffy on.
That’s the problem, I don’t have a thesis and fundamental to follow. So can’t seem to figure out if things have ran its course and it’s time to exit or not. Especially some of the losers like UBER or MA or BKNG or SPGI. Do I just hold as they’re still fundamentally strong and will eventually recover or is it just downhill from here. Etc
AI is great for coding, but here's my issue with general usage: Claude or any LLM searching the entire web for each question is such an inefficient way of going about searching for things, it's obvious it uses up such a gigantic amount processing power, that even some light usage gets you throttled even on a pro plan, from personal experience. This has many implications: While it may seem bullish for energy and compute, and it is, it means the buildout required to meet this compute is not only a massive number, but might not even possibly ever meet demand. This is especially true for other industries besides software engineering, where AI compute is even more inefficient. I really don't see how an LLM searching for point-in-time information in such a roundabout way over the entire web will efficiently replace curated data. This is why Anthropic has partnered with so many financial data companies and users use MCPs to connect to them. Claude has FactSet MCPs, Morningstar MCPs, etc. The implication is besides software engineers, AI will likely not be adopted quickly by other industries because the cost and compute inefficiency is way too high. A good buy will then be AI "disrupted" companies in other industries for example SPGI, FDS in finance, and brokers like BRO, AJG. There is a good spot for them in terms of the speed of AI adoption (slow outside of coding), data quality (required so that AI isn't so expensive and inefficient), and general usage (TAM actually expands to the general public if they sell data on usage).
Thanks for giving my $SPGI position a boost today!
Interesting, I actually bought SPGI last week
Hopefully MELI works out. Im basically flat on it over 2 years myself. I was considering selling it just like you did with SPGI and MCO. And now im suddenly hearing many saying MELI is a buy now.
I went dumpster diving last week after selling SPGI & MCO. It was hard to digest going flat on both holdings after holding for over two years. Thanks to many of you for providing some great ideas like CAAP, SONY, etc. I ended up landing on growing my RDDT stake, buying big into MELI (12% position), and opening up a 5% position in FIG. FIG was an interesting proposition for me. I work with Product & Engineering orgs as a finance partner. I have a SO who works in Design. I'm fortunate to even have access to how Figma bills the org and the reliance we have on Figma. I tried to get into the IPO at $30, but as we all know that wasn't happening and then the euphoria kicked in. It fell down my watchlist and I stopped tracking the company. The SaaSpocalypse hit and the music stopped playing. At it's current valuation, it's far below what Adobe proposed to swallow them up. I don't think they're going anywhere, even if the roles of Product Designers, Product Managers, and Devs will change over the next 5-10 years.
Some of these AI dumpster fires are mind blowingly cheap. Chris Hohn, TCI management, the same guy who sold MSFT because of AI fears around software, is doubling down on SPGI, another “AI dumpster” because AI can get data…except SPGI’s data that they sell isn’t really even public data so there is literally no way for AI to even get it, it’s selling off on nothing. SPGI’s insiders have also bought millions.
SPGI is a good stock, just hold it for 10 years.
Feel like a complete cuck sticking to my strategy of keep buying MA, SPGI, Brookfields instead of following the multi baggers
I finally sold MCO & SPGI, holding flat for two years+ after dividends. Bitter pill to swallow that sort of performance.
Good breakdown, but the core issue is simpler: AI compresses switching costs and compresses margins. Horizontal SaaS with low moat gets hit first, vertical SaaS with regulatory or workflow lock‑in holds up better, and infra/security tied to AI demand recovers fastest. A few things I’d add: • AI doesn’t kill software. It kills weak moats. Point solutions and SMB‑focused tools are the most exposed. • Vertical SaaS is structurally safer because switching isn’t about code, it’s about compliance, workflows, and integrations. • Infra/security names (CRWD, PANW, DDOG, SNPS, CDNS) benefit from AI volume, not AI substitution. • Data vendors aren’t equal. Public data = vulnerable. Proprietary data (SPGI, VRSK, CSGP) = much harder to disrupt. • Human‑heavy industries (consulting, CROs, brokers) face margin pressure as AI automates the “labor arbitrage” model. The market isn’t punishing SaaS randomly. It’s repricing business models based on how defensible they are in an AI‑driven world.
Trying to use AI for finance makes me want to buy the AI dumpster fires like Factset, Morningstar, SPGI, etc. Not sure how probabilistic LLMs that searches every number put out there at all times can somehow be more accurate than these data providers. LLMs can't differentiate accuracies, numbers like analyst EPS keeps changing all the time, making past public data for even a few days useless.
Its ultimate earnings day. SPGI beat which is a good sign, now we just wait to see how much the hyperscalers are gonna spend on ai this quarter. Amd and asml tell me they’re gonna drop some more billions on compute
I will see you at the Earnings call, SPGI Holders 🙏🏻
FICO, SPGI, Moody’s. The terrible three of proprietary data which somehow Claude will replace…
Cyber security and Software. SPGI, NTDOY also.
Bought FICO and SPGI as well.
I hold gay stocks like SPGI, MSFT, META, AMZN...and down to hell 11% is like the green days for me
SPGI mostly has extremely proprietary data they use for commodities for example. Stuff that sits on physical tapes that AI literally could not touch even if we developed far more advanced world models. FICO's main business is credit scoring, and AI is yet another item that won't touch their business. Software side is yet to be seen, but I don't think it'll distrupt either.
I am really interested in opening positions in SNPS around 380 and ISRG at a way lower price. Added slightly to most of the the stocks in my individual portfolio. META, BN, MELI, NTDOY, SPGI, V, TDG Also sold some index in my Roth to buy MSFT, MCO and RACE. I don’t believe it’s possible to catch the bottom but we have to be ready to buy great businesses at a price we are okay with. It can always go lower and we always need to have some liquidity.
Don’t feel as confident in FICO/SPGI. They do kind of narrow data in, out stuff which could conceivably be AI’d. CNSWF has like 300+ very specialized applications/platforms which are essential for clients and which don’t seem that vulnerable to be five code reverse engineered or displaced.
A few ride or die picks for me. FICO, GOOG, CSU, SPGI. I'm knee deep in financials and software. I think there's a lot of fear here that we'll think about differently in five years. A lot of uncertainty, but I've been buying while there's real blood in the streets. FICO has fallen more than 50% from ATH, CSU over 50%, SPGI down 26%+. Companies that I don't see being displaced anytime soon, or their competitive advantages really eroded.
I have been buying CRWD and SPGI.
Added to MSFT, NTDOY, SPGI, MELI, BN. Great time to be a stock picker. So many entrenched businesses at a discount, at the worst Hyperscslars become like the utility providers of the AI world. Also Sooo many asset light businesses at a reasonable price
$SPGI, $MA, $AXP I won’t stop buying until they all double
There are lots of high quality names trading at discounts which I believe show much better next ~2-4 year returns than FIX at the current $1,450 price. I think FIX is now a big gamble given the valuations and multiple. FIX is already up another whopping 57% YTD following a 130% run up last year. This rally simply can't continue long term given the physical constraints of labor workforce. $1,450 is basically already pricing in a 20-30% YoY growth for this year, going into 2027, and possibly even into 2028. As we all know, the entire SaaS sector is unjustifiably punished. As my name implies, I've been continuing to actively invest in CSU. There are plenty of other high quality names that are very discounted. Some I have tracked that I believe are high quality at fair or even good valuations include SPGI, FICO, MCO, MSFT, CRM, BKNG, MELI, KNSL, CPRT, and BRO.
That last link you posted is for SPGI, not the S&P
SPGI is a solid pick, and honestly, I hadn't thought of it that way. I'm gonna dig into them more. Have you looked at any materials companies that are essential for, like, EV batteries or renewable energy? Seems like there's potential there too.
S&P Global (SPGI) is an example outside of tech. When companies issue bonds they almost always need ratings from firms like S&P or Moody’s due to regulatory requirements. That effectively makes them toll collectors on global debt issuance. They also earn licensing fees from the S&P 500 index, so they get paid whenever assets track the index. Businesses like that, where the whole market has to go through you, tend to be incredibly durable. I mention this one because it's also attractively priced now.
Might have to do some finance shopping with paycheck LPLA, SPGI, and MA all seem good here to me
Green on SPGI, bought too early, then bought some more, pretty happy now
I bought SPGI last week. I'll sell it once it goes up 20%. Seems like a complete overaction into a highly regulated business.
Yeah, I have been using this strategy of buying good stocks after they have been hammered down (and after doing my due diligence of course) and it has worked exceptionally for me. I bought MSFT & SPGI last week
Sold Samsung, Hynix and Sandisk. Pretty awesome super quick trades. Like over 15% total in a few weeks. Started rotating into NOW, INTU, SPGI, CDNS, ANET, PANW, ARM, UBER, and AVGO. I think NFLX will be the last to make the new list. Value!
I’m curious why ppl still chasing NVIDIA when there are so many better opportunities out there. SPGI was a screaming buy still is IMO, so are MA and V not to mention software companies. So many better places to put your money than chasing this stock.
Fun day for me. Just entered a small stake in DUOL and now seeing MCO, FICO, SPGI, etc. beginning to recover their valuation from the drop.
Well the Moody's and SPGI CEO's defended their companies on their earnings calls. Worth a listen if you're interested.
There’s so many quality stocks in bear markets right now. Load up MSFT, FIG, SPGI, APP, GTLB, SLP, PGY, FLNC, QS. NFA
SPGI may be the only play there is at this point. Without a doubt the easiest buy of my life
Totally, I get that. But based on my projections, if the AI narrative folds, it may take up to 10 years for FIX to reach this valuation again. Consider a sudden sell off of fears of cap ex growth slowdown (very possible in the next 1-2 years) - FIX will likely correct 30-60% back down to $400-600 based on how much of a rattle Deepseek caused. This can literally happen with any catalyst, and FIX is indeed a cyclical construction company. I will still hold 100 shares because this is my highest conviction play (50% of my potfolio), but I think I will continue to trim 65 more shares through April as there's just much more compelling names with higher FCF yields and much cheaper multiples (ie FCO, MCO, SPGI, CSU.TO...). Time will tell, but I think at ~60x earnings, time to de-risk.
There are a lot of issues with data companies, it seems priced in, but who knows. 1) If AI makes people much more productive, it means less financial analysts needed, so less spend on per seat licenses. 2) SPGI (Capital IQ) sells data to Claude. If people now use Claude, which has other tools combined together, like Factset, Morningstar's Pitchbook, instead of paying for data companies individually, this cannibalizes on these companies' current clients. 3) If AI is such a good data scrapper, the need for these companies, they get public info and clean them up, will be less than before. The question is whether proprietary data which only these companies have and AI can't access, provides enough value. Together all these questions came together and now SPGI, FDS, MORN are trading at recession lows
What am I missing on SPGI? It's not a "software" company, so AI scares are kinda non-sense. If anything, AI would help them a lot with automating lot of clerical work.
$SPGI director bought stocks worth 1M. Is this a good buy the dip or falling knife??
Added to KNSL, GS, MCO, and SPGI.
No. The market goes in cycles. Even strong stocks sell off a bunch for dumb reasons, see Google last year as an example. My portfolio is made up for mainly high quality stocks with very strong moats, and I've been bleeding plenty of money so far this year because of all the illogical sell offs on stuff like SPGI, INTU, MCO, MSFT, etc. I'll almost certainly underperform the S&P500 this year if this keeps up. But I'm confident that 5 and 10 years out will be a different story.
(Sits and looks through the couple thousand or so things that have RSIs at 40 or lower for names of potential interest) Intuitive Surgical (AI optimization beneficiary, robotics), Uber (very discretionary and not the place to be if you think the consumer is cooling, but getting overdone almost back to the lows of last April), Shopify (also not the place to be in a downturn, but not really concerned about AI and the bizarre fade after earnings the other day has gotten excessive), Take Two (GTAVI and kind of the last remaining major studio that hasn't made a mess of itself like Ubisoft or been sold like ATVI/EA - AI will likely cut costs and could speed up production perhaps as soon as GTAVI: DLCs), Samsara, SPGI/MCO/MORN (earnings weren't great, but I don't see the AI disruption concerns to the same degree and down nearly 30% in a month and an RSI of 19, a lot is getting priced into something like SPGI), Reddit (I don't like aspects of how Reddit has changed in recent years, but earnings weren't bad and the stock is way oversold), trucking (I think the major names are AI beneficiaries and may further consolidate share and the fact that names were obliterated yesterday because a pink sheet company that was a former karaoke company announced some sort of AI program -https://finance.yahoo.com/news/logistics-stocks-sink-ai-fear-193327489.html - is silly), NDAQ/ICE (not seeing the disruption risk, will probably be a decent year of IPOs and while the market has been volatile, more volatility likely = more trading)
I've been on here for over a decade and I've seen a number of posts by people over the years that they've bought Nasdaq and it's Nasdaq the company not the index. Some SPGI instead of SPY as well. You're not the first to make the error. although sorry that the error lined up with a difficult time for the company in this instance. You will absolutely make mistakes investing, it's an inevitability. IMO, it's really a continual learning experience and if you can takeaway some sort of lesson from things that don't go as planned/hoped, you can improve over time. Sorry this happened and hope it hasn't soured you on investing going forward. Hopefully this period will start to calm down shortly and SPGI will recover, or if you want to look elsewhere instead (as Buffett said once, "you don't have to make it back the way you lost it") you can do that too. Good luck.
Hi everyone, OP here, thanks for all the responses. After going through them all, I’ve come up with a plan—one that I’m going to stick to without reacting anymore to what happens at 'Moment X' or what I think might or might not happen in the future. I’m going to leave it for a maximum of 6 to 12 more months. After this sharp decline, I do think SPGI will rise again since it can now be seen as 'discounted.' If it hits -15% within this timeframe, I’ll set the stop loss there (that would be roughly 3,000 in additional losses, totaling about two months' salary). After that, I’ll move the stop loss up with every 5% gain. At -10% the loss would be 1,800, and at -5% it would be 900. After 12 months—or January 1st, 2027, to keep it simple—I will sell it, regardless of the position. During this time, I’m also going to start working on myself from scratch. Why did I make these mistakes? Especially the one last month when I knew what to do. I’m going to start exercising again. I’m going to learn that everyone makes mistakes, no matter how foolish they seem. And above all, I’ll learn that life isn’t just about money and is never predictable. I am very frugal, sometimes even too much (like rarely going out with friends or not replacing broken items). I think that’s why it was so hard for me to sell last month at a loss of ±1,000. Since yesterday, I’ve also started helping others invest correctly in ETFs, and I want to keep doing that. Who knows, maybe I can build a small side hustle around it—I think I have the perfect story to scare people and keep them focused solely on ETFs haha. One positive thing that came out of this is that I explained the whole story to my family, and because of that, our connection has suddenly become much better. Everyone around me has been very supportive. What do you think of this plan? It’s going to be a difficult year; losing money (especially through stupidity) is always hard. But life is long and things can only get better from here. I can get through this. I’d love to hear your feedback.
Hey buddy. Assuming you invested the other 70k (and presumably another 15k in ETFs) better, you'll earn your loss back within a year or two. SPGI will recover till then as well. Just don't panic-sell anything. But make sure you have the right ETFs. No screwing around anymore!
S&P Global (SPGI) Adobe (ADBE) Constellation Software (CSU)
Yeah I don’t know anything about SPGI and if you don’t know much either I would just cut my losses. What’s your time horizon? Do you want this money to grow for decades, or a couple years? Will you need it?
Yeah it's something I realized about myself Normally I do things thoroughly and research a lot, but in the heat of the moment I get stupid and don't follow the plan (especially with this SPGI stuff weirdly) I should have written it down somewhere beforehand
> may you never make the same mistakes as I did The bumps and bruises are the great lessons in life. You got some important education very early in your adult life. In the grand scheme of things this unrealized SPGI loss is small relative to the amount you'll earn over your lifetime. Funny, with as many Redditors there are who say, "But I want to take more risk when I'm young!"
You mean to keep investing in ETF, not SPGI I presume?
Since you already own it, do some real research on SPGI and decide if its somewhere you want to have money invested. If not cut your losses and consider it a lesson learned. You'll be fine in the long run
I never thought SPGI was a good investment, I thought I was buying S&P500 I do think that there is a small-medium potential upside in the coming year as it dropped a lot and may be seen as a good opportunity And yes ETFs all the way now
Honestly though just take a deep breath, its not as bad as it feels right now. Dont think about how much you have lost, what you need to do is assess what you have right now and decide what the best path going forward is. If you still think SPGI is a good investment, then hold and dont stress about it. If you think its a bad investment, sell and take whats left and invest in something you think is a better investment. Given your emotional reaction to this drop, I would recommend buying an ETF like VTI or VOO and just not worrying about it
meanwhile, over on /stocks, this regard but SPGI thinking he was buying the S&P500. and they're supposed to be the smart ones on this fkn app? LOL
I been buying the hardware layer. It probably best to make a separate comment for that. As this is a SPGI/MCO defense force comment now. I agree great companies. I been buying FICO. Which has also been effected. Just not as popular probably the share price a part of it stock 1,300 a share.
That’s an absolute insane policy. Are you 100% sure? Your picks are good companies but what matters most is the price you pay. I like to purchase stocks depending on what the market gives me. If a stock is down substantially, it’s a great companies with growing revenues, I now have a new position. Right now, I think all these stocks are basically at all time highs. I wouldn’t purchase now, price too expensive considering. At the current moment, I like Energy/Oil. Personally I’m invested in FANG, SLB, CEG & XLE Enterprise software has taken a huge hit. I like CRM, NOW. SPGI is a good choice now if you like moats. Why no tech?
Difference imo is that core SPGI/MCO businesses are some of the most resilient and best in the entire world...
This sub is starting to bring up SPGI and MCO. Hopefully those two dont become the next UNH/PYPL. Where the stocks keep going down after they became popular on this sub.
SPGI and Topicus are excellent buys right now. Seems like the fear is at an all time high.
Added to MSFT, TOITF, SPGI and MCO. I think this is an extraordinary time where we can pick up some of the best companies of all time as they descend from their usually astronomical multiples. Also starting to do some DD on Sectra AB , they are a medical IT company.
1. MSFT is fine. Hold it for 3+ years. Ignore it. Maybe hold it for couple of decades. 2. SPGI is long term. Good entry now tbh .. 30% down 3. Hood and Reddit are regarded investments. Msft will rise just like Google or more. You have to understand their environment focus more on business than Google does. Google does 50/50 with consumers just as much as business. Microsoft will double up when economy goes back in grind gear. Easy 800. Invest longterm avoid options.
Down significantly on MCO, FICO, SPGI, & CSU over the past six months. Bought some RDDT this week as I finally got comfortable enough with the business to add at these levels. I'm extremely patient though and am willing to add when I see opportunity. I'm pulling forward some cash to add right now because some of these companies look too solid regardless of short term fear. I remember getting a lot of flack for buying ASML on the way down due to China & geopolitical fear. I took a near 50% drop from it's Q2 2024 peak, and that holding has been my largest winner ever since, even after I cut 70% of the stake.
Fellow SPGI bagholder here 🙋♂️
I bought SPGI the other day, then crashed to the lowest level, i bought MSFT then crashed to the lowest level, i bought HOOD then crashed...everything i hold crash, but i sold GOOG at $165
I bought SPGI today also bought Meta cause the gap filled
So S&P Global (SPGI) and Moody's (MCO) are down a bunch while TSLA is green again. Clown market.
Still all in on MSFT shares, got some funds on hold and may dump them into BKNG, ORLY, or SPGI when they are available. Or if MSFT happens to double bottom at 400, i may buy more MSFT
currently up 30% on my RBRK, NOW, and RDDT Jan calls, plan to continue to hold. I'm eyeing SPGI but seems like ER and guide aren't great.... what are peoples thoughts? I guess I'm wondering if i should start a position today or if its likely to drop a little lower. Typically after ER drop it doesnt bounce back next day
MCO and SPGI falling knife 🔪🩸.
SPGI down almost $150 in a month. Congrats to those who got off the sinking ship. Fixed it for you! God I love this sub.
SPGI up about 11% from pre-market lows. Congrats do those who timed the bottom.
Added to SPGI, MCO, MSFT and AMZN. Delighted to be dipping in to these amazing companies. The threat of AI disruption to the first 2 is bogus imo, they will adapt to AI. Market Inteligence margins may compress, but I like to think that AI is not free as the market seems to think, which is evident is MSFT and AMZN dips, cloud compute margins will forever be lower for MSFT and AMZN vs pre GPU dominance days.
Might have been a bit early to the SPGI dip, at least its not -20% though lol
It's hilarious how the SPGI dip gets bought up 2 minutes before open so you can't buy calls in the dip.
I have no idea what the correct value is for SPGI. I just hate the often repeated line here that a selloff indicates a discount. Like yesterday's price was magically correct and today's must be wrong. The same logic means that any gain should be considered a markup and an irrational price. It's just complete nonsense. In this case, it's still a massively expensive stock. 30x earnings for a data company. I have no idea what the true value is, but for 30x earnings you better be pretty sure that moat holds for a long time.
2008 couldn't kill these rating agencies.... but AI will. SPGI, MCO
Wow, SPGI. First time I ever had a pre-market limit order trigger on Fidelity.
$SPGI Top-Line Financials (Full-Year 2025) • Revenue: $15.34 billion, a 9% increase year-over-year. • Adjusted Diluted EPS: $17.83, up 14% compared to 2024. • Adjusted Operating Margin: Expanded to 50.2%, driven by strong pricing power and IHS Markit synergies. • Capital Returns: Returned approximately $5.1 billion to shareholders in 2025 through dividends and share buybacks. Segment Performance (Q4 & FY 2025) • Ratings: Revenue grew 12% in the second half of the year as corporate bond issuance rebounded. • Indices: Grew 14% (the fastest-growing segment), benefiting from record-high AUM in S&P 500-linked ETFs. • Market Intelligence: Revenue increased 6%; continued strength in "Enterprise Solutions" and private markets data. • Commodity Insights: Revenue up 6%, led by demand for energy transition data and "Price Assessments." • Mobility: Up 8%; management reaffirmed the spin-off of this unit is on track for 2026. 2026 Guidance & Dividends • 2026 EPS Target: $19.40 – $19.65 (representing ~10% growth). • 2026 Revenue Growth: Projected at 6% – 8%. • Dividend Increase: The quarterly dividend was raised to $0.97 (up from $0.96), marking the company’s 53rd consecutive year of increases. • Buyback Plan: Authorized an additional $2.5 billion share repurchase program to be executed throughout 2026. Stock down 11% this morning.
Wow, SPGI earnings miss and getting absolutely pummeled
In addition to being an SPGI bagholder, I am now a BKNG bagholder