ING

rekt_by_inflation

I've deposited to various exchanges from ING, ANZ plus and ME bank and never had an issue with any of them

Yougetwhat

Thanks for your reply. So it is a different one from the ING belgian one? (I use Ing.be)

Btcyoda

I have a strange situation since I worked in The Netherlands, live in Belgium. I use the Dutch ING bank. Since January 1st 2025 you pay 30 % tax if you sell Bitcoin for fiat in Belgium :0(

WeddingHot4796

This is what I dont understand about bitcoin hodlers. You could make a shit more money if u took a tiny bit of a risk and put some of that money into other coins and then u could reinvest in bitcoin when it inevitably drops again in 6-9 months time. They are so obsessed with Bitcoin, though it's like a cult and no 1 should buy anything else but bitcoin. Well, enjoy the extremely long wait to get rich, especially if you are dca ING into it at this point. Personally, I'll be playing the alt season and slowly dca ING out as it goes along and hopefully have that lambo by the end of the year

Shyssiryxius

Fuck ING lol

ECore

That's so F'ING stupid. It's almost as if the President is SUPPOSED TO HELP LEAD A NATION.......or something. Got damn.

AgentSmith2077

Same. Just sent some more money from ING to coinspot to buy the dip today, and it was there a minute later when I checked. I've found that coinspot fees are lower than coinjar.

ant-Resident1370

I have no problem with ING sending and receiving money to Coinspot. Sometimes within seconds

Dan_Rhon

ING did the same thing to me. I switched my DCA payments to them after Another of my banks account was compromised. They told me under no conditions would they allow me to send money to CoinJar even though I explained I have been making weekly payments to them for years through another bank. I got my ING account reactivated though so I will be transferring all my investment funds to another bank

fonaldduck099

ING direct

NJ0000

Short term gratification DOESN’T work! Also never put all your wealth into 1 risky investment and never put money in you need. It’s a costly way to learn about investments….next time learn them before investment. I hope and expect a little (cuz Trumpie keeps f-ING up the world) the market to take a turn upwards and hopefully this will get you properly into the green.

livehawk2100

I have ING and can transfer to CoinSpot with no problems

MakeItMine2024

F’ING scumbags stole 39,000 in 2023 now worth 55,000 when the infiltrated Atomic wallets servers

jlwapple

I've got all my bag ($1,581) in AAVE. HODL'ING for sure!

ECore

Omg...I can't wait for all the shorts to get absolutely F'ING WRECKED tomorrow. They will be crying "buhhh muhhhhh tArifFs!!!!". Lol. Weak weak hands will get wrecked and I will laugh.

Extension_Address226

ING is pretty much instantly once u have done your first payment. Always working for me..

ApacheGenderCopter

Answered in another reply, but more than a quarter mill in one go. Also a number of $10k, $20k, $50k transfers. No issues at all. Though I do believe in the last cycle 2020/21, I did have to verify with ING that I was the one moving the money. Since then, they’ve never contacted me.

ApacheGenderCopter

I’ve had no issues with ING.

anomalousone96

ING is instant to Swyftx. CBA takes 24 hours.

No_Nebula_1057

Independent Reserve from ING using PayID have posed little problems. IR has a flat fee of $25 upon purchase, which makes it great for large transactions, but not so much if you want to DCA a bit of money into it every now and then. If you do want to purchase Bitcoin with a lot of money at a time, expect hell from any of the major Australian banks. They will freeze your transactions, and sometimes even your account under “scam protection”. They perceive Bitcoin as a threat and don’t want customers operating out of anything but fractional reserve fiat currency.

Froz3n_Cornchip

I moved to ING years ago and never looked back. Never have dramas depositing to my exchange (fortnightly) and it’s instant.

Competitive-Cow-8055

ING all the way best bank for crypto

jubedoob

ING has changed their terms and you can no longer transfer to any crypto platforms

Rise_Relevant

PS- I was transferring to Kraken, not withdrawing. I would assume transferring to ING would be fine.

MiceAreTiny

My business relationships are on a need-to-know basis. So, no, I did not lie on the questions they asked me. I did not volunteer any information they do not need to know. I do have my ING bank account for over 10 years already.

Immediate_Penalty680

ING and ABN both rejected me. When making an account, did you lie about not having crypto? What did you answer when they asked about it?

MiceAreTiny

The AML regulations that the bank faces are public information. You do not have to disclose your bitcoin, you have to disclose the sum of your total assets in euro's (or wich bracket this falls within). You are free to take another bank. I am banking with ING in the netherlands, I have bitcoin, they do not know (I am not a NL tax resident).

Andredewaard91

Bullshit. I have a Bunq and ING account. I put my savings of 40k on Bunq since I got more interest there but when I went to buy a car I just transferred it back to my ING account and without questions asked it was there the next day and transferred it to the dealer.

MachoSmurf

Have had issues with the Rabobank in The Netherlands, I know for a fact from close family that ING and ABN have similar issues. All imposed under the guise of "AML" and "Fraud protection".

Other_Importance249

I hope we're all gonna be millionaires. & that be ING a millionaire will still mean something by then. But somehow, since the ETF's, I doubt "we're still so early..." Sorry.

pornbomb75

Anything specific to be aware of with Up Bank? I tried opening an account with Ubank after ING blocked me, but they closed my account 5 mins after trying to transfer to kraken with no explaination.

dimi727

Man fu**ING crypto can you just fu**ING hell pump more than 1 day man?

pornbomb75

I’ve been trying to buy bitcoin through Kraken via ING, they keep blocking me. Tried using PayID this morning and they put a hold on all my funds in that account with a message to call them. Called and they have reinstated the account, but mentioned new policy around transfers to crypto accounts and would not tell me if I would get blocked again or not if I tried again.

jetylee

That term is over 40 years old. Bitcoin didn’t invent it. How do you know he’s talking about BTC? Hell ING opened “buyandhold.com” back in the 90s.

Maleficent_Revenue60

It's ING Australia, they blocked transactions to exchanges a couple of months ago. I am unsure if they still accept transactions from, as I moved my business to Up bank. Up bank allows transactions to and from Kraken, try them.

FieserKiller

mentioning the country would be smart, don't you think? ING germany works, SEPA transfer took 2 hours

fan_of_hakiksexydays

ING has long been known to be a joke of a bank. They have a track record of ridiculous policies that are anti-consumer, anti-privacy, anti-business, and don't have a very good reputation when it comes to "consumer protection". So it's not surprising they would do something like that, but really ironic that they would do it under the guise of "consumer protection".

Simple_Zebra_8575

You forgot about numbres... Just 0 replacing and some caps look for your examples, no match. g0ing$your$way$now! going$y0ur$way$now! going$your$way$n0w! trying$again$now! trying$again$n0w! going$your$own$way! g0ing$your$own$way! going$y0ur$own$way! going$your$0wn$way! crying$your$eyes$out! crying$y0ur$eyes$out! crying$your$eyes$0ut! bringing$your$all$now! bringing$y0ur$all$now! bringing$your$all$n0w! flying$your$kite$high! flying$y0ur$kite$high! growing$younger$now! gr0wing$younger$now! growing$y0unger$now! growing$younger$n0w! knowing$your$worth$now! kn0wing$your$worth$now! knowing$y0ur$worth$now! knowing$your$w0rth$now! knowing$your$worth$n0w! going$your$pace$slow! g0ing$your$pace$slow! going$y0ur$pace$slow! going$your$pace$sl0w! dying$young$is$dumb! dying$y0ung$is$dumb! G0ing$your$way$now! Going$y0ur$way$now! Going$your$way$n0w! Trying$again$now! Trying$again$n0w! Going$your$own$way! G0ing$your$own$way! Going$y0ur$own$way! Going$your$0wn$way! Crying$your$eyes$out! Crying$y0ur$eyes$out! Crying$your$eyes$0ut! Bringing$your$all$now! Bringing$y0ur$all$now! Bringing$your$all$n0w! Flying$your$kite$high! Flying$y0ur$kite$high! Growing$younger$now! Gr0wing$younger$now! Growing$y0unger$now! Growing$younger$n0w! Knowing$your$worth$now! Kn0wing$your$worth$now! Knowing$y0ur$worth$now! Knowing$your$w0rth$now! Knowing$your$worth$n0w! Going$your$pace$slow! G0ing$your$pace$slow! Going$y0ur$pace$slow! Going$your$pace$sl0w! Dying$young$is$dumb! Dying$y0ung$is$dumb! G0ING$YOUR$WAY$NOW! GOING$Y0UR$WAY$NOW! GOING$YOUR$WAY$N0W! TRYING$AGAIN$NOW! TRYING$AGAIN$N0W! GOING$YOUR$OWN$WAY! G0ING$YOUR$OWN$WAY! GOING$Y0UR$OWN$WAY! GOING$YOUR$0WN$WAY! CRYING$YOUR$EYES$OUT! CRYING$Y0UR$EYES$OUT! CRYING$YOUR$EYES$0UT! BRINGING$YOUR$ALL$NOW! BRINGING$Y0UR$ALL$NOW! BRINGING$YOUR$ALL$N0W! FLYING$YOUR$KITE$HIGH! FLYING$Y0UR$KITE$HIGH! GROWING$YOUNGER$NOW! GR0WING$YOUNGER$NOW! GROWING$Y0UNGER$NOW! GROWING$YOUNGER$N0W! KNOWING$YOUR$WORTH$NOW! KN0WING$YOUR$WORTH$NOW! KNOWING$Y0UR$WORTH$NOW! KNOWING$YOUR$W0RTH$NOW! KNOWING$YOUR$WORTH$N0W! GOING$YOUR$PACE$SLOW! G0ING$YOUR$PACE$SLOW! GOING$Y0UR$PACE$SLOW! GOING$YOUR$PACE$SL0W! DYING$YOUNG$IS$DUMB! DYING$Y0UNG$IS$DUMB!

PreachyOlderBrother6

Stopped DCA'ING. Saving my dry powder for the dippity dip, the real dip. Headlines calling for btc to bin the 40k range. Will deploy then, God willing. Need more sats.

MagicUndies

ING don’t block crypto purchases

silenseo

"I have bought .5 BTC in the past month. Working my way up to 1 via DCA, hoping for short term drops while I scale up lol" YOU JUST SAID THIS 12 DAYS AGO YOU F-ING POSER

HurricaneHarvey7

Remember those ING What Is Your Number commercials? BlackRock should do that, but denominated in Bitcoin instead

craff_t

Not sure but ING is a German Bank... That's probably all the joke is.

fonaldduck099

ING direct

aasyed

I contemplated getting with ING for this specific reason. But from all the news and reviews on them randomly closing people's accounts, I felt discouraged to pursue that route.

Dettol-tasting-menu

ING has been giving me no trouble. Hope it stays that way.

craff_t

I like the BTC ING DiBa shirt!

DecentGeneral4305

Make an account with ING they are perfectly fine with you transferring to crypto exchanges then personally I use swyftx as an exchange

Clear_Indication1426

Myain bank comm bank suck as they have 24 hour hold, just set up and ING account and there's no delay transferring to coinspot

rogpar23

“TO ZERO, BITCOIN’S GOING TO F#(ING ZERO!” is still funny as hell, i watch it from time to time..

OK_Renegade

I think ING paid about $1B a few years ago in The Netherlands, probably still peanuts doe them but thought is was quite a bit.

Various_Spend4972

I did my homework before I got in at 2021 and kept DCA'ING my average is .00341. Sony executives are behind this Jasmy Crypto and Panasonic just recently partnership with Jasmy. Predictions it can hit $1 in 2025-2026 I am not an financial advisor. Please do your homework prior to investing. Jasmy is a Japanese crypto.

antikama

ING bank are much better, I moved over to them and they dont do anything like that

Forward-Higher

Depends how much it is, but since your 19 and have only been dca ING your own money for five years it sounds like a no. It's your savings account. Buy more.

go4tman

ING

TheseusTheFearless

I switched to ING after using Commonwealth bank my whole life. Partly for being so anti crypto, but mostly because they screwed me over in other ways - hidden and high fees and having terrible service. If you go with ING use this code and get $75 - Jqn465 https://campaigns.ing.com.au/refer_75?code=Jqn465

tengu8890

ING I suppose?

cancerboyuofa

No excuse, they just closed off withdrawls due to bank runs. The first was if I remember right, when bear steins went belly up. The others were when Lehman went under, then AIG freaked markets out. ATM's were put of cash, branches had special hours, and online withdrawls were halted. This was Wachovia first then wash mutual, then finally my savings at an online only bank ING Direct, which is now capital one 360.

heinzmoleman

Nothing changes for me. Keep DCA'ING, through the run and the bear market.

Level-Pen-9658

There is no point in DCA-ING at this point. Just spend it all. Bitcoin price is moving up from here to new ATH

ChanceRecognition340

Crypto is pretty much exposing bankers and not having the slightest @#$&ING clue how economics and money works 🤣

yogyadreams

My salary goes into Commbank. However I have a separate account with ING. I transfer a few thousand a month to that account as 'Savings' and then direct deposit to an exchange from there. Never had any issues, always been instant and they don't ask questions.

iRollGod

I literally switched back to ING today. Most crypto friendly bank in Aus. No limits. No bullshit.

skivvey

ING is good

waydownsouthinoz

ING to CoinSpot debit transfer works no worries for amounts up to 2k

DotDamo

I currently use Up and haven’t had any problems. Last year I was using ING, also no problems.

fonaldduck099

I'd go ING Direct. Osko payments limited to 1k AUD, but subsequent payments have been lately processed well within 24 hours.

Which-Occasion-9246

Commonwealth are rubbish for crypto. ING works well.

Maleficent_Revenue60

ING has been all good for me. Only 1000 per day OSKO though, to anyone. I have also used uBank, higher send limit per day, so try them.

dynamicfront

No no, warren buffet, surely you've heard of warren buffet? buffet himself would tell you, and this is a quote directly from Buffett: "Time *IN* the market beats Tim*ING* the market" as in buffet subscribes to the belief that when you believe something is a good investment, you should simply begin purchasing it immediately rather than attempt to time the perfect moment.  The act of you trying to construe timing the market as the objective approach of a cautious individual, and you trying to equate being pragmatic with gambling is irresponsible and also simply not reflective of the beliefs of the current investment culture in 2024. Timing the market was something that was more possible historically during simpler times. Today the bulk of people who attempt to time the market end up making less money than they would if they had simply put their funds in as soon as their identified the opportunity. Lets walk through the mental process of this for a second. 1. You identify an asset which you believe will increase in value. 2. You then convince yourself that it will go down in value conveniently so you can purchase it at a lower price. 3. You then assure that after you buy in, it will cease decreasing in value, and resume rising in value. Do you see the problem with this? Youre identifying something which you believe you can sell for more, but insisting on waiting so you can buy it for less. These two ideas run counter to each other. Yes theres intricacies of the market which can be exploited, but those exploits get smaller and smaller each year as more and more people compete for them. And here's the thing, the more volume you work with, the less % of your profit has to go to "external costs". Cause see we all need to do some research maybe to identify opportunities, but some people have more money than others. this means the person youre trading against has more advanced capabilities than you most likely. but theyre working with so much money that for them spending another $100,000 on some fancy investment tool ends up being an infinitesimal percentage of their profit, cause theyre working with billions of dollars. for you to spend 100k on an investment tool, that would have to generate an insane amount of money for you. Problem is it wont, youre not working with the level of volume of cash were that would start to make sense. See the problem? Youre at a fundamental disadvantage to any established market player, from an information perspective youll have less information than they do, youll be slower than them cause their computers are faster, they have more experience than you cause they've been collecting information on markets for a very long time, they have recorded historical data that we would have to pay to obtain and some of it might not even be for sale. Yes theres opportunities in the market, but by an large most people are probably not cut out to navigate that and the documented statistics regarding trading bear that out. The reports say most traders fail. and its not by a small percent. Its like 99% of traders fail.

fonaldduck099

I am an Oz expat living in Thailand. Dealing with Australian banks and CEXs is a ferking nightmare. ING works so far, but who knows what tomorrow brings

oldskoolr

10k a month. Other big banks aren't as black/white about their policy so its up in the air. CBA has at least taken some stance on the matter. Smaller banks like ING & Suncorp are an option.

FireBest59

we f*ING SMASHED through 69k LESGOOO

Inner-Command-4344

happened to me i complained CBA locked my accs, decided to move banks to ING and they blocked my acc two days later holding all of my hard earned money, wont answer my phone calls and they dont have any branches. Got no funds besides my bybit card and my spot holding

RoscoRoscoMan

Macquarie in Australia loves crypto. I hear ING is good too

Bradford203

Disgusting. Go ING.

skivvey

ING is really supportive with ceyoto.

Familiar-Wear-1894

You need to use ING, never had an issue 😔 https://campaigns.ing.com.au/refer_75?code=FED604

zuptar

Great Southern and ING usually just call you and check you're not being scammed, then they let the transactions through. After the first time, anything under about 10k just goes through.

Citizen_Kano

I've never had an issue with ING in Australia

tengu8890

Man, ING KYC is absurd. They lock account and demand response if they detect too big salary income (!). (legal agreement on EoC, name / surname / month in the wire transfer). Don't even get me started on compliants - you'll get the "we're terribly sorry" template on paper and the next month situation continues.

Curiosity-92

If you're struggling, ING has no limit or transfer or the amount of times when depositing to an exchange.

Which-Occasion-9246

Is that even legal? It is not their money! Ditch CommonWealth. ING has never presented an issue when I deposit money into the exchanges.

Fickle_Cabinet470

My bank tried this (ING) and I just closed my account.

onemansquest

If you were just DCA ING every month you wouldn't be having this issue.

Queefinator124

Time IN the market will always beat TIM-ING the market…

jet_life_next_life

Damn FOMO hitting hard. Glad I was DCA'ING and buying all the way down and heavy at 15.5k.

Guru_Salami

Not true. I opened few bank accounts online including ING which is internet only bank and they never asked my any selfies, holding piece of paper and other video selfies. They just wanted me to upload /email 100 points worth of IDs which is passport, drivers licence an utilities bill

bizaroo933

I dont understand now people coming here and acting like Sol is shit because of this. Every network can go down, we have a very big bank here in the Netherlands called ING and especially last year its network went down like 4 times, and one time it took them 12 hours to fix it. To me it sounds like people are frustrated they missed the pump and want to give themself right.

ExplanationNormal339

ING logo???

Nieles1337

So it was ING all along...

Davess010

That white shirt on the 3rd picture looks like like the logo of the Dutch ING bank but with BTC, instead of ING. Funny

mertats

Checked ING Belgiums fees, and SWIFT is not free unless you are sending money to a SEPA country. Probably you only sent SWIFT payments to SEPA countries. Any country outside of SEPA has a fee of minimum 8 euros.

JuliusCaesar007

Wake up pls!!! I can’t believe how ‘ignorant’ some people still are about their banks and their governments!!! They are the BIGGEST CRIMINALS on the planet and they do on the backs of their clients or citizens!!!!! These are your bank’s favorite activities: 1. Money Laundering 2. Fraud 3. Tax Evasion 4. Manipulation of Financial Markets 5. Insider Trading 6. Violation of Sanctions 7. Embezzlement 8. Bribery 9. Corruption 10. Misrepresentation 11. Rigging of Financial Benchmarks (like LIBOR) 12. Illegal Foreclosure Practices 13. Selling of Faulty Financial Products 14. Breach of Consumer Protection Laws 15. Breach of Anti-Money Laundering Regulations 16. Illegal Interest Rate Manipulations 17. Privacy Law Violations 18. Violation of Securities Laws 19. Misleading Investors 20. Price Fixing 21. Violation of Trade Sanctions 22. Illegal Trading Activities 23. Falsifying Financial Statements 24. Collusion with Other Financial Institutions 25. Facilitating Tax Avoidance 26. Violating Environmental Laws 27. Insider Dealing 28. Illegal Credit Practices 29. Unlawful Trading Practices 30. Market Abuse 31. Mortgage Fraud 32. Offering Illegal Financial Advices 33. Breaking Advertising Regulations 34. Violating Data Protection Laws 35. Illegal Asset Freezes 36. Unlawful Interest Charges 37. Failing to Prevent Money Laundering 38. Illegal Derivatives Trading 39. Participating in Ponzi Schemes 40. Unfair Business Practices 41. Violating Corporate Governance Norms 42. Abuse of Financial Instruments 43. Engaging in Predatory Lending 44. Violation of Fair Lending Laws 45. Illegal Debt Collection Practices 46. Violating Privacy and Data Security Laws 47. Funding Illegal Activities 48. Breaching Regulatory Compliance 49. Participating in Illegal Securities Offerings 50. Engaging in Unethical Investment Practices Specific examples: Over the past decade, European banks have been involved in a variety of scandals and convictions. Here are some specific cases: 1. Deutsche Bank: Involved in several scandals, including money laundering, interest rate manipulation, violations of the US-Iran embargo, and issues related to its relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. For instance, the FinCEN Files investigation revealed that Deutsche Bank’s top management knew about suspicious transactions amounting to over $1 trillion. They also faced a penalty in 2013 for their role in US mortgage transactions related to the global financial crisis and were fined €725 million by the European Commission for manipulating interest rates (DW). 2. Credit Suisse: Convicted of failing to prevent money laundering by a Bulgarian cocaine trafficking gang in June. A Bermuda court also ruled that the bank’s local life insurance arm was due damages for a long-running fraud committed by a former Credit Suisse adviser. Moreover, Credit Suisse faced issues related to the “Suisse Secrets” scandal, where it was alleged that the bank had human rights abusers and businessmen under sanctions among its clients. Other significant issues include involvement with collapsed investment firm Archegos, insolvent supply-chain finance firm Greensill Capital, and a spying scandal (Reuters). 3. Danske Bank and Estonian Branch: The European Banking Authority (EBA) opened a formal investigation into a possible breach of Union law by the Estonian Financial Services Authority and the Danish Financial Supervisory Authority over Danske Bank and its Estonian branch. This followed significant supervisory failures and raised questions about the effectiveness of anti-money laundering supervision in the EU (Transparency) 4. Danske Bank: Fined €470 million in Denmark over an international money laundering scandal. This penalty was imposed after the bank admitted to defrauding US-based banks in a scheme to access the US financial system. Approximately €200 billion was laundered through its Estonian subsidiary between 2007 and 2015 . 5. Swedbank: Investigated for potential money laundering involving at least 40 billion Swedish crowns transferred between Baltic accounts at Swedbank and Danske Bank from 2007 to 2015. Swedish and Estonian financial watchdogs opened a joint investigation into Swedbank . 6. Nordea Bank: Handled about 700 million euros in suspicious transactions between 2005 and 2017, with funds heading to shell companies in countries like the British Virgin Islands and Panama. In 2015, Nordea was fined 50 million Swedish crowns for breaching anti-money laundering and financing of terrorism rules . 7. Deutsche Bank: Acted as a correspondent bank for Danske Bank in Estonia, and was under investigation for its links to the money laundering scandal. In a separate case, Deutsche Bank was fined nearly $700 million for allowing money laundering through artificial trades between Moscow, London, and New York . 8. Credit Agricole: Through its private banking subsidiary Indosuez, was allegedly involved in money laundering, although the bank stated that Indosuez had fulfilled all its obligations regarding anti-money laundering . 9. ING Groep: The Netherlands’ largest financial services provider admitted that criminals had been able to launder money through its accounts and agreed to pay 775 million euros to settle the Dutch case . 10. Raiffeisen Bank International (RBI): Faced allegations of being the top recipient in a list of 78 banks in Austria that received funds allegedly linked to money laundering . 11. ABN Amro and Rabobank: Named in reports for facilitating several hundred million euros in improper payments. Rabobank was fined 1 million euros for failing to catch money laundering by clients . 12. Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) and Citigroup: Also mentioned in relation to the money laundering scandal for processing suspicious payments from the Baltics, although RBS stated it was committed to combating financial crime and money laundering . How long do you want that I continue?! Or, you could search it yourself on Google or ChatGPT!!! It’s time to wake up!! The Great Resist instead of The Great Reset from criminal WEF….

NeonsTheory

I've not had any issue with Ubank (or ING, Westpac, or UP for that matter). Were you trying to move millions or something?

WSB_ThAw

Hab mal von Coinbase 40k€ an meinen ING Account geschickt, da kam gar nichts

TissueUnflawed

See recent threads at /r/BitcoinAUS Some people recommend ubank, others ING

Nielscorn

How would you lose on ING if you bought at ANY point before this month? Only one who lost on it are people who might have over leveraged on margin or sold when it went down for a bit. At ANY point this year if you bought and waited 1-2 months, you would have been in profit.

Newman49

I use Cro through ING and have no issues. Free transfer of fiat then can buy through that. I also have the card so transfer into fortnightly.

Woodsy428

I use coinspot too. CBA holds the money for 24 hours before it goes through unfortunately. Haven't tried with my ING account yet