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3rd year of maxing out my roth ira. How do my allocations look
Pretty wild stats on market positioning - crash coming in the new year?
Portfolio Review and Strategy in Times of Uncertainty - Seeking Advice
Are REITs a good long term investment for Roth accounts?
Why are commercial real estate stocks still doing fine?
How does a globally diversified ETF portfolio look to you?
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REITs: VNQ, USRT, XLRE, et, Staples: VDC, FSTA or XLP
Almost makes up for the bath you're taking on 1211 and XLRE...
You can recover from this with some discipline and patience. You’re just holding cash right now? How’s your work situation and are you able to add money back on a monthly basis going forward? Set a target monthly contribution. You need to baseline your portfolio with something relatively stable that you can be very confident will go up in a long-term. Something like SPY or QQQ. Diversified market index. If it ever goes down, you can look at it and recognize that this is a great time to buy because eventually it WILL recover. I would put 50 to 75% of your portfolio into one of these diversified funds. Then you can think about how much to try on any individual stocks. Some people might recommend zero. I would suggest thinking about the US real estate industry, which is currently in a major slowdown. Eventually, it will recover. There are ways to play a rebound in real estate in a safe way such as XLRE.
I have a watchlist of sector ETFs and saw a big red candle breaking through weeks lows this afternoon. Check XLRE.
yes, XLRE and VNQ too struggling to recover as well as the broader indices
remind me! -6 month all dated Jan 2026 - Jan 2027 drawdown is about $4500 on a $7000 basis 2026 XLF 30 put XLF 20 put XLF 19 put DIA 200 put XLRE - 40 put XLRE - 30 put XLRE - 20 put INTC - 60 call 2027 XLF 20 put VNQ - 30p VNQ - 20p GME - 5p AMC - 3p AMC - 1p see you in 6 months!
XLRE / VNQ underperforming vs the market recovery, housing market showing cracks XLF is a different story. not as confident about this anymore as I'm afraid whatever exposure could be covered by the meme-market pumps. IMO if history remains true in the future SOMEBODY has to default and that's why I'm going short on the basket itself, not just individual banks, but I have them too (OWL, ZION, APO, ARES, JPM, BAC, WFC) just in smaller portions and again deep OTM far expiry All in I will lose about $6,000 by 2027 if we don't see some sort of recession by then, but I think the majority of WSB/ Americans are ignoring the warning signs for a **global** recession and are short sighted by the value of american tech / drunk off the bull party
XLF / XLRE / VNQ January 2026 puts deep OTM fair warning I'm pretty stupid so far!
honestly? SOXS if you wanna gamble equities, start selling chunks of gains as soon as they come in gambling options? my picks would be 2026 dated ***puts*** on XLRE (real estate), XLF (finance sector / the bank basket), XLE (energy) if you want a big spicy one HYG, I'm holding a ton of puts on them. they're the high yield corporate bond ETF. tracks high risk corporate bonds which are typically high risk as hell and I think it's pretty implosion worthy.
I’m not going to post my core shorts for 2 reasons: 1.) they’d look absolutely degenerate if you don’t fully buy into my thesis, so you’d lack the conviction to hold (some 5s rated funds, safe haven’s, etc) and 2.) I bought them cheap in march, they’re expensive now and tbh.:. i’m not confident they’ll payout even if I’m right at this point, fraud is rampant. XLRE/XLF/XRT naked short, regional banks (IAT/KRE), holding companies (BX/ARCC/etc.)… tbh, open the prospects for SCHD, or similar… they’re full of shit co’s I expect to default. Others would take too much explanation, and if you hood a similar belief you’re already most likely in them. dyor, not advice, but enough people upvote I figured I’d throw a bone… but I must emphasize: you need convection in the underlying structural thesis rooted in the credit markets, or else you’ll paper hand these and lose. if it was easy, everyone would be in it. Whatever you do, stay safe.
Never. Because I don't "VOO and chill". I don't do anything "and chill". *Something is always going up.* You don't have to time the market tops and bottoms perfectly. In fact, you can't. What you *can* do is detect the major medium-term shifts in the market, and rotate accordingly. Tactical asset allocation, aka momentum rotation, was researched and published 30 years ago, backtested on the entire market history, and has continued to outperform the market — primarily by significantly reducing the deepest and longest drawdowns by rotating into other (e.g., gold, bonds) or narrower (consumer staples, low volatility) assets. Don't just take my word for it, read the research: [Ned Davis 3-Way Model](https://portfoliodb.co/portfolios/three-way-model-by-ned-davis/) [Meb Faber 3-Way Model](https://mebfaber.com/2015/06/16/three-way-model/) [Gary Antonacci's Global Equity Momentum Strategy](https://svrn.co/blog/2015/8/2/is-gary-antonaccis-global-equity-momentum-strategy-robust) Personally, I did a defensive rotation in early February, when it became clear that unpredictability/volatility was going to be dominant. There were technical indicators as well as just paying attention to the news. There were early warning signs as early as the first of January, but look at what the defensive rotation looks like since the inauguration (1/20) XLP +7.28% SPLV +5.05% REZ +6.96% (you can also check XLRE and VNQ) IAUM +7.24% (or GLD) XLV +5.77% vs VOO -2.71% QQQ -3.80% *Something is always going up.* You can "...and chill" or you can stay in the fast lane.
Go check out thetagang. Find low priced stocks and ETFs with good liquidity and sell some options. Get a system and start learning. I like many of the tastytrade principles and the wheel. Some good starting tickers could be F, GM, EWZ, X, M, CCL, LUV, W, FXI, OXY, XLRE, GME (might be a little wild, would t sell naked) Small positions, net credit, 45DTE, good quality tickers, 68 delta, close 21 DTE or 50% profit. Have fun
> That’s blatantly false. I outlined the facts and didn’t even mention your leader. These actions taken by anyone would be the same. If Obama illegally fired tens of thousands of workers every week and practiced wonton corruption I’d be pointing it out even louder than you would. Bush launched an illegal war into the Middle East and that didn't set off immediate market panic comparable to the present (it had bipartisan and public support). Neither did 9/11, Obama's excursions into Libya, the Ukraine war or a hundred other terrible things that occurred these last 20 years. Point being, a few thousand people being fired + tariffs doesn't compare to the complete breakdown of the international banking system or the shutdown of the U.S. economy with apocalyptic doom mongering. Yet AAII retail sentiment is approximately the same in all three instances. Sentiment for the first two bottomed *during* those events, while we still lack a complete list of tariffs to be enacted. Which means retail is being irrational right now and you take the opposite side of the bet. > Agree with all that but would add my observation over the years that a lot of institutional decision makers are surprisingly no brighter than most retail. I remember how jarring it was to rub elbows with revered money managers only to find out how little they know compared to their reputations. The net result is that it can become indistinguishable if they’re both doing the same things at the same time. Bluntly, money managers aren't the stars of the financial world. Oftentimes their portfolios are just SPX proxies and they overly focus on client inflows over performance. There are also structural issues that prevent them from beating the indices. It's network access to privileged information that lets institutions front run trends e.g. selling off Bear Sterns shares 9 months before it collapsed. > Is that an absolute certainty? Can’t a sector or two some sectors simply Sector rotation happens all the time. Money flows into XLV at the expense of XLK; money flows into XLK at the expense of XLRE. But DIA, SPY, NQ, and IWM are broad ETFs. When they diverge, it precedes a market correction. > That would be interesting given that crypto has apparently been pretty correlated with things like tech/mag7. Yes, BTC has become very correlated with NQ and MAGS. > May have missed my window to snap up some oversold crypto. Considering my target for BTC is around 150k, you're still early. > I think tariff talk will either dominate or serve as a distraction for the coming days. I don't expect stocks to rocket up from here. Looking for consolidation in the first half of the week before the next leg up.
> So just to be clear, you are saying a correction is coming soon, but not this week? Because you had said to buy heavy on a Monday dip. Yes. I believe the window for a proper correction begins in mid-April. This is a drawdown. We hit *very* specific levels and reversed. > I’m a simple gal but to me this makes sense. Retail and the general public are seeing an almost terroristic administration doing corruption in broad daylight and featuring a ketamine addict randomly firing thousands of workers every day. Public confidence collapsing seems to be the predictable result. You're equating dislike of Trump to a bottom of a worldwide recession and a worldwide pandemic. Don't let your political biases cloud your judgment. Besides SMH, XLK and XLY, most SPDR sector ETFs are up or flat. Even XLC's down move is deceptive due to its overweighing of Mag 7 stocks. Depressed retail sentiment is additional evidence against this dip continuing. We get real corrections at the point where euphoria rules and price movement moves in a parabolic fashion (e.g. April, July). SPX's recent ATH came with very little enthusiasm and was a slog to reach. > Except when they’re not, and really, the move of a week or two can be undone just as quickly if not faster. Which is almost never the case. The fortune of the financial sector reflects the global liquidity cycle and money velocity. In the same vein as the Cantillon effect, they experience the least lag time when the economy goes south. > I’m struggling with how to word this... I agree with you that dumb money absolutely overreacts. But over the years I’ve come around to realizing it’s sometimes best not to fight dumb money. Even if they’re doing something dumb like buying or selling something they shouldn’t, why not just participate but being more cognizant to take gains before they figure things out? 85% of all market liquidity is institutional. Out of the remaining 15%, 90% of retail inflow/outflow is controlled by 10% of the demographic. Retail doesn't move the market. As I mentioned, ST5W is telling us this retreat is not broad-based. Institutions front run downturns while selling off to retail with reassurances everything's alright. Just like the dot-com bubble, GFC, the mid-2010s, and COVID. Dark pool transaction volume exploded on Friday afternoon, telling us big money is buying back in; inversely, we saw a ton of selling at the top the week before. > Again, simple gal thinking here there’s sense to it. Flight from wacky tech to safety, plus a perception that a crumbling economy will spur rate moves favorable to financials. Some numbers showing re-sale real estate is moving, mortgages are starting to happen again. These perceptions, true or not, would let someone justify XLF, right? XLF is going up, XHB is still in a protracted downturn, XLRE has been crawling up since January. They want the ideal "golden ratio" when high rates intersect with debtor demand, where the latter doesn't dampen the former. Lower rates don't spur more borrowing if people believe the economy is in the gutter. > So essential a broadening then, which could be seen as healthy? That's the ultimate bearish sign. A broadening only means the total distribution shifts as money flows to other securities in different sectors. Everything should still go up to ATHs in a bull market at different rates. > Admit I don’t watch it that closely. I’m guessing a bounce? If so that would make simple sense to me as I perceived a big selloff had happened even though the current administration’s promise/threat of a “strategic reserve” is still on the table. Frankly down so much I had been thinking of upping my small crypt hedge just on the basis of it being possibly oversold. Up 12% off the announcement. > Main question is are you still advocating heavy buying mid-Monday? Yes. I expect a pullback at Monday's start. Institutions will unravel their short positions and deleverage the shares they bought to cover.
My XLRE position is like “what chaos?”
Knowing the allocation by ticker would provide better insight. With the etf and equities, are they comprised of one etf and stock or 10? It’s hard to tell based on the information provided. For me, it’s something like 30% VOO 30% VGT and 30% IGM (for exposure to META) 3% Cash/Bonds. Rest dabble in individual stocks or sector etf (based on market conditions). Less than 1.5% in each position. Most are 0.5%. Right now. XLF, XLI, XLRE. $2k in BTC since 2020 just to scratch that itch.
Sectors to get long going forward as tech, and market cap weighted s&p falter XLP XLV XLY XLB XLRE
Orr XLE XLU XLV XLRE calls
My buys today: VOO AMD MU WM MRK XLRE XLE SCHD
Using my custom GPT "Precision Trader AI" - This was the response Following the Federal Reserve's recent 25 basis point rate cut, bringing the federal funds target range to 4.25%–4.50%, and signaling a slower pace of easing in 2025, various sectors are poised to experience distinct impacts. Sectors Positively Impacted: 1. Financials (XLF): Interest Rate Sensitivity: Banks and financial institutions often benefit from a steepening yield curve, which can enhance net interest margins. Current Performance: As of December 19, 2024, XLF is trading at $47.63, reflecting a decline of approximately 3% from the previous close. 2. Energy (XLE): Economic Growth Correlation: Energy demand typically rises with economic expansion, potentially boosting revenues for energy companies. Current Performance: XLE is priced at $84.05, down about 2.84% from the prior close. 3. Industrials (XLI): Infrastructure Investment: Anticipated fiscal policies may lead to increased infrastructure spending, benefiting industrial firms. Current Performance: XLI stands at $132.44, a decrease of roughly 2.87% from the last close. Sectors Negatively Impacted: 1. Real Estate (XLRE): Interest Rate Sensitivity: Higher long-term interest rates can increase borrowing costs, potentially dampening real estate investment and development. Current Performance: XLRE is at $40.76, showing a decline of about 3.96% from the previous close. 2. Consumer Discretionary (XLY): Consumer Spending Impact: Elevated borrowing costs may reduce disposable income, affecting spending on non-essential goods and services. Current Performance: XLY is trading at $228.64, down approximately 4.57% from the prior close. 3. Technology (XLK): Valuation Pressures: Higher interest rates can lead to increased discount rates, potentially compressing valuations for tech companies. Current Performance: XLK is priced at $232.24, a decrease of about 3.26% from the last close. Investment Considerations: Diversification: Given the varied sector responses, maintaining a diversified portfolio can help mitigate risks associated with sector-specific volatility. Interest Rate Monitoring: Investors should closely monitor interest rate trends, as further adjustments by the Federal Reserve could influence sector performances differently. Economic Indicators: Staying informed about economic indicators, such as consumer spending and industrial production, can provide insights into sector health and guide investment decisions. In summary, the Federal Reserve's recent policy decisions are expected to have nuanced effects across different sectors. Investors should consider these dynamics when making investment choices for the remainder of the year. ------- Option Strategies Based on the recent Federal Reserve policy changes and their anticipated impact on various sectors, here are specific Exchange-Traded Funds (ETFs) representing these sectors, along with suggested options strategies: Financials (XLF) Current Price: $47.63 Suggested Options Strategy: Bull Call Spread Details: Buy the $47.50 call and sell the $50.00 call, expiring in 30 days. This strategy limits risk while allowing for profit if XLF appreciates. Energy (XLE) Current Price: $84.05 Suggested Options Strategy: Bull Put Spread Details: Sell the $82.00 put and buy the $80.00 put, expiring in 30 days. This bullish strategy profits if XLE remains above $82.00, with limited risk. Industrials (XLI) Current Price: $132.44 Suggested Options Strategy: Long Call Details: Purchase the $135.00 call, expiring in 60 days. Anticipating sector growth, this allows for significant upside with the risk limited to the premium paid. Real Estate (XLRE) Current Price: $40.76 Suggested Options Strategy: Bear Call Spread Details: Sell the $42.00 call and buy the $44.00 call, expiring in 30 days. This bearish strategy profits if XLRE remains below $42.00, with limited risk. Consumer Discretionary (XLY) Current Price: $228.64 Suggested Options Strategy: Protective Put Details: Hold shares of XLY and buy the $225.00 put, expiring in 30 days. This provides downside protection against potential declines in the sector. Technology (XLK) Current Price: $232.24 Suggested Options Strategy: Collar Strategy Details: Hold shares of XLK, sell the $235.00 call, and buy the $230.00 put, all expiring in 30 days. This strategy limits both upside potential and downside risk, suitable for uncertain market conditions. Notes: Bull Call Spread: Involves buying a call option at a lower strike price and selling another call option at a higher strike price, both with the same expiration date. This strategy limits both potential gains and losses. Bull Put Spread: Involves selling a put option at a higher strike price and buying another put option at a lower strike price, both with the same expiration date. This strategy profits when the underlying asset's price is above the higher strike price at expiration. Long Call: Involves purchasing a call option, providing the right to buy the underlying asset at a specified strike price before the option expires. This strategy offers unlimited profit potential with the risk limited to the premium paid. Bear Call Spread: Involves selling a call option at a lower strike price and buying another call option at a higher strike price, both with the same expiration date. This strategy profits when the underlying asset's price is below the lower strike price at expiration. Protective Put: Involves holding the underlying asset and buying a put option to guard against a decline in the asset's price. This strategy provides insurance by setting a floor on potential losses. Collar Strategy: Involves holding the underlying asset, selling a call option, and buying a put option. This strategy limits both potential gains and losses, offering protection in volatile markets. These strategies are tailored to the current market outlook for each sector. Investors should assess their individual risk tolerance and investment objectives before implementing any options strategies.
I would rather buy XLI/XLRE/IYM to hedge against this
Im buying XLV XLRE MSFT GOOG BRK UPS
XLRE up 1% in the last 27 minutes after being a bitchass all day, rigged fakeass market 
Dude tell me about it. Sometimes when I buy calls on the XLU the spread will widen by 50% in the last 3 minutes of the trading day, and subsequently reflect gigantic losses on my bottom line number. 😂 But they usually tighten up quickly when the market opens back up. Some are better than others. I forgot where I was looking the other day, maybe the XLRE or XLC, but the spreads were insane, like over a hundred dollars between the bid and the ask, and it was during peak biz hours. XLF and XLU tend to be a little more liquid, as long as you don't get wacky and go 6 months out or crazy OTM.
XLK is cheaper, I just bought XLU puts and have a limit order for XLRE puts
Office REITs in general do not look that cheap to me: [https://www.hoyacapital.com/reit-sectors/office](https://www.hoyacapital.com/reit-sectors/office) And the REIT sector has exploded since November 2023, such as XLRE. I bought O and ADC in October 2023, and unfortunately sold a long time ago. They'll all crash like a dog in a recession.
Yep. I got SLV Sectors that stand to benefit from rate cuts: Utilities, Real Estate, Comm Services. And if you look at the individual indexes(XLU, XLRE, XLC) you can see they are getting bid up. I doubled my money on at the money XLU calls last week in four days.
I haven't added any more positions, but I keep the drip going. My largest is O, but I will eventually be all XLRE for an indexed option. My target for REITs is 5% of my portfolio and have noticed it has gone above that, when I rebalance next year, maybe I will take profits to get back to 5%
If you’re young, in your 20’s that all you have to do. For real. Dollar cost average monthly into ETF’s. SPY, VTI, IWF (growth), IWD (value), etc etc. these would all work. VTI is Russ 3000. Entire market. Small, mid and large caps. One buy. Easy. Hold 5-8% in GLD and SLV. Hold 5-8% in real estate XLRE (not commercial buildings) and hold some crypto. BTC and ETH. Don’t open your statements. Invest every month. In 30-40yrs you’ll have millions. No joke. $5000 a year for 40yrs at 10% is 2.2Million.
You can buy whatever you like. You can hold some in Treasuries until the market corrects. Or, if you just want to use a simple big brain strategy, just rotate it into whatever is currently down. Which currently would be like XLE, XLC, XLRE. It would give your more diversification anyway. But it's really up to you, cause there's no guarantee, since tech could just skyrocket forever for all we know.
XLRE is also great for REIT's.
I was looking at REIT’s as prices may rise with more affordability with interest cuts Top ones were XLRE & VNQ, and others SCHH, IYR, RWR None of them were super volatile, but they seem to have steady growth and it might be a better place than cash for the next week Probably a safe 2-3%
XLRE and XLU best performers QTD ...
XLE, XLV, XLF, XLRE I'm really liking these Sector SPDR ETFs
Great selections but lots of repetitions.... XLRE/SCHH/VNQ are the same thing, you might want to select 1 only... same goes with SPY/VOO...
MSFT and NVDA are top holdings in SPY, VOO, and VGT. O is a top holding in VNQ, SCHH, and XLRE. You are spread too thinly for what you have invested currently. Dividends are great, but depending on your ability to routinely invest, time horizon, account type, etc. you are better off allocating to growth, especially since your current portfolio bends towards growth. NVDA and MSFT boomed heavily with AI hype. That doesn’t mean they couldn’t run more or won’t grow in the future, but you are assuming idiosyncratic risk when you can safely gain exposure to megacaps via an index fund. If your brokerage does fractional shares, individual share price does not matter. A fraction of a great company will play better than whole share of something mediocre. You’ve got sector risk and no real exposure to bonds, small cap, mid cap, international, or alternatives while double and triple dipping on equivalent funds. What is your thesis for holding individual equities? If your answer is O’s dividend history and AI go up, time to go back to the drawing board. Why Microsoft instead of Apple or Google? Why Nvidia instead of AMD or Intel? Why O instead of Prologis or NNN? An example: Coinbase IPO’d in 2021 where it topped out at ~$343 in November. A year later, after the FTX fiasco and rate hikes started going, the price had collapsed to a bottom of ~$35. Nearly 90% down. Where was I? Backing up the truck and shoveling hard. Why? Because the Bitcoin ETF custodian partnerships it had with most of the trading firms were already on the books. Bitcoin is cyclical and when asset managers like Blackrock and Fidelity are lining up to the trough, they do so because they have an angle. My thought was that crypto took a severe beating, but is a cockroach of finance and would likely recover. Similarly, Cleanspark was the only Bitcoin mining operation that went into the bear market carrying zero debt and a warchest from selling Bitocoin prior to the 2022 price collapse. Consequently, they were able to significantly expand their operations when things got shitty. Sell picks and shovels during a gold rush. I made a multiple and sold when the crypto market was hot in April. Why? To bank profits when I was in long term cap gains territory and the interest rates were doing their job of taming inflation. A fuckton of corporate debt is getting refinanced at higher rates and rates will be cut to achieve the soft landing or because the Fed overshot. What was my plan? My win got dumped into broad market index funds (lowering my risk), allocations to a Bitcoin ETF and Fidelity’s Digital Payment ETF (maintaining exposure in a safer way), long duration U.S. Treasuries (reading the room), and dry powder (future plays). Do research. Develop perspective. Have a process and a plan. To be clear, you aren’t making poor choices so much as classic beginner mistakes. A couple of years ago, I was in the middle of making them myself. Personally, I’m a fan of the Ginger Ale portfolio, but I still think the best place to start is a basic Boglehead approach of a 3 fund portfolio. It gets you going and is safe enough to figure out if you want to do something more involved.
How do you guys feel about real estate at large? Things like XLRE, DHI or O/Prologuis. Feels like an obvious play if we re fairly certain of FEDs cut cycle? But nothing is obvious
I'd give it a little time, people will chase the green at open imo. for example, I'm chasing AMZN & XLRE.
1. Cash out. 2. Research and find a strong monthly dividend paying asset. 3. Buy 2 million of said asset. 4. Write covered calls on half of your position. 5. Enjoy your monthly dividend check. Possible monthly paying stocks to look at, ORC, NLY, SCHH, XLRE, ADC, AGNC, AWRRF. (Not financial or tax advice) just somewhere I would do some research about. Just know you can be pocketing 40 to 90k a month just on dividends not to mention the premium you would generate with writing covered calls.
You can buy a like but different fund in my XLRE example to not be out for 31 days. You don’t need to put new money in. When I saw re-purchase, I mean from rebalancing. You’d rebalance and pay your total income taxes according but you’d have the deduction from selling XLRE at a loss, vs holding only VTI or VOO and always selling at a gain without any deductions.
31 days later you re-buy your XLRE back and rebalancing. You will certainly pay some taxes, but since you used the XLRE losses to offset a portion of your gains you’re already ahead. It’s not worth doing with portfolios of a certain size, or for someone who wants to be totally passive and hands off. But for me, with $7M invested in my early 50s and who enjoys managing my own money, it is worth it.
Because you will have millions of dollars of gains with no losses in the single fund approach. This year for example, you’d be up 11%. Let’s say you are retired and need to draw money to live off from for the year. See pic I just added to the post of the 11 sectors YTD. You’d pay tax on that 11% gain. In my suggested approach, you’d sell the XLRE at a loss and a little of your winners for the year, and have zero gains and no taxes owed. It’s not cheating or anything sketchy, it just gives you more of your own money.
XLY flat for yer and still up 17% from October. XHB up 12% on the year and 50% from October. CVNA up 31% after hours today. XLRE down 8% on the year but up 13% from October. ADP numbers came in higher than expected today. Housing price index at 423, 7% yoy, 1.2% mom yesterday. Case Shiller 7.3 vs 6.7 expected. Cuz no homes are selling? Gtfo. But sure, 2 companies facing boycotts over a war and Americans frustrated with insane fast food prices are the real barometer of economy. Powell is dovish because he has to be. They have to lower rates because America keeps borrowing at insane levels and has to cut rates at some point regardless of how fucking stupid it is.
Really after looking at all the sector-focused ETFs most everything was either down between last October-November at some point OR in the last part of 2022. I'm just looking at surface lwvel stuff tough. XLY, XLK, XLRE, XLB etc....
Again might be wrong but the underperformers could be up for an upgrade: - XLRE -XLU -XLV Real estate, utilities and healthcare have been dead money since 2020.
Utilities and Real Estate XLU, XLRE
Stock options: Fundamentals DD on the underlying stock (I like gurufocus.com for this), and some light TA on 30-60 day SMAs, using my broker's excellent built-in charting feature (Power Etrade). Index options: Macro news, like FOMC meeting dates, and more light TA. WSJ is the gold standard, but any legit financial news service is fine, from Bloomberg News to Reuters. Sector ETP options like on XLF, XLE, KRE, etc.: Sector DD, sources vary, like if I'm trading XLRE, I'm looking at NAREIT data on reit.com, or for oil I look at eia.gov and iea.org forecasting.
Which ones. I googled XLRE and USRT ishares core and both seem to be doing fine.
REITs are a difficult group. Commercial real estate is under huge pressure, and while that might be priced in, the historical return for REITs vastly under performs the markets. https://stockcharts.com/freecharts/perf.php?VOO,VTI,QQQ,XLRE Real estate investing works best when you are taking out a mortgage and thus leveraging your capital and aren't paying both a brokerage and a property management company for the ease of buying a stock ticker. I would adjust your allocation to more like 95% VTI/VOO and 5% higher risk. Personally, I would take 2-5% and put it in something very risky like a leveraged ETN - TQQQ, UPRO, or crypto. This is after, as others have said, you have a rainy day fund and potentially a savings fund earmarked for purchasing real estate. Buy something to live in and be your own landlord. When you outgrow that property, rent it out and buy your next property. In the US you can get an insured money market fund at Ally bank that pays 4.5% - not sure about your locality.
Except public US real estate has been in a bear market since late 2021 (at least) - XLRE is still down 20% since Jan 2022 - that's on a total return basis - the price has been flat since late 2019.
Something weird just happened with XLU and XLRE. Totally cliff dived
XLRE just jumped out the window, great news
XLRE-> hold an index of REITs for less risk and track the market
Kimco and Arbor are fairly fine REITs in their respective sub-industry lines, but be advised that they are very focused on very specific areas as far as REITs go. That means there is a meaningful chance the RE sector may be up in any given year while you may be losing money. If you dont know much about RE, and dont have the time to spend to learn, I would stay away from mREITs all together and invest in VNQ and/or XLRE. I dont know much about SCHH, but it's returns dont seem very appealing over the last 5 to 8 years compared to the other two. You can certainly accumulate S&P 500 beating gains in RE, and it's an excellent area for income focused investors, but it's fairly complex and there are tons of players. I would focus on accumulating as much SPY, or similar ETFs, as possible for now. Once you hit something like 100K or more, then you can start thinking about focusing on specific sectors and maybe income generation. The fact of the matter is, if you are not investing in a tax advantaged account, you want your investments to be in high growth stocks that pay little to no dividend and instead invest that money in themselves for excellent returns or do buybacks. Dividends eat into your compounding. So no reason to take a hit to your compounding while you are still accumulating wealth.
Holy fuck, XLRE up 5.6%?? That's a whole sector, not a stock ticker
I would probably keep a quarter of it BIL. I would start selling puts on XLRE and XLF. 15% of my capital on XLRE and 10% on XLF. 25% would be used to sell puts on SPX. 25% would be used to my own trading positions on mREITs and BDC common and preferred positions.
Max out my 401(k) in s&p500. I've got some SCHG in my Roth, but I'm not adding any at the moment. What I have is up around 45% and I sell covered calls against it. Most of the rest of my Roth is used for trading positions in mREIT common and preferred stocks. These are purely trading positions based on my evaluation of the Book Value of the mREITs. I used to trade BDCs too, but the discount to NAV just isn't worth it. My taxable account is a combination of Google, Microsoft, and some ETFs. I've been buying XLRE and SCHD as well as some specific REITs while they are on sale.
Heck yeah! Way to go! XLRE puts?
I bought a XLRE $35 put for 10/20, and it’s saying it jumped 292% Friday. Is this a glitch or what? I have no idea what I’m doing and would really like some help figuring out what’s going on with this option
I agree. SPY, QQQ, and even DIA are all still screaming sell on the 2wk & 1mo charts, so although we may have a technical bounce tomorrow we will still go down afterwards. As for *when* that will happen, it could be a day or two so I’m a bit hesitant to play this with 0DTEs… Maybe with weeklies, or 3DTEs? A side note, I noticed IWM & XLRE are actually giving strong buy signals so we might be seeing a rotation / derisking situation next week instead of a full on market crash.
Absolutely. All the comments I've read are hopeless. They don't understand that a 5 to 10% correction on all markets is possible over the next 3 to 4 months. Short an ETF like XLRE or IYR (US market) could do the job. NFA
Don't do that, bla bla bla... This entire market is a bubble. Check some examples for the US stock market. Holdings in XLRE... https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/XLRE/holdings?p=XLRE I don't know about Canadian market, sorry. TSLA NVDA META QQW will be destroyed soon. So many gaps to fill downside. Soon or later... Good luck. Or stocks from IYR etf https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IYR/holdings?p=IYR NFA of course.
Went long on NKE, XLRE, NVDA so far this week.
I like XLRE better because it's more concentrated in REITs that I like but cant buy because of my job.
There’s so many books out there with most saying the same stuff. What’s helped me the most is just doing my best to look at the charts every day even if it’s just for 10-20 mins, and reading one article a day that just gives a recap of what the markets are doing (yahoo finance, etc) It can get overwhelming though if your watch list has 20+ stocks and a bunch of indexes so less is better in this case. Especially if you’re busy and have a full time job I’d just be looking at SPY, QQQ, and the sector indexes. XLK, XLE, XLI, XLU, etc. Overtime you’ll start to see patterns and which index you may want to either DCA in or swing trade. For example just compare XLK (Technology) vs XLRE (Real estate) on the monthly and weekly time frames.
Office real estate like BXP and SLG is not doing fine. There are many types of CRE outside of office and they aren’t nearly as risky as Office is at the moment. Something like XLRE contains all industries in the Real Estate sector.
I absolutely should've included that. It's as follows. 24% - VUG 17% - SPDW 16% - VO 14% - SCHA 13% - VTV 9% - XLRE 7% - VWO This is following the "Aggressive" model portfolio. The biggest reason in seeking and insight is my contributions currently outweigh my 401's value. I'm young and still have time on my side though, so I'm just trying to be proactive.
Real estate is a terrible idea for someone with zero knowledge of how to manage it. It complicates life for this fellow at no meaningful benefit. Buying something like O, VNQ, or XLRE is a lot better.
Short realty stocks or real estate ETF’s. You would need to buy puts on the following tickers VNQ, SCHH, XLRE, IYR, ICF and others
I can't speak for properties, but for ETFs there are a few really good choices. - VNQ (Older and trustworthy) - FREL (Lowest expense ratio) - XLRE (Best performance since 2016)
#Ban Bet Lost /u/wutangfinancial88 made a bet that XLRE would go to 31.3 within **3 weeks** when it was 34.341 and it did not, so they were banned for a week. Their record is now 1 wins and 1 losses
XLRE is only down 0.34% at the moment. Where do you see "most reits"?
The Philadelphia Housing Index was down 0.4% while the Real Estate Select Sector SPDR Fund (XLRE) rose 1.2%.
**Ban Bet Created:** **/u/wutangfinancial88** bet **XLRE** goes from **34.34** to **31.3** before **14-Apr-2023 08:16 AM EDT** Their record is 1 wins and 0 losses.
!banbet XLRE 31.30 3w
!banbet XLRE 31.30 1m
#Ban Bet Won --- /u/wutangfinancial88 made a bet that XLRE would go to 32.5 within **1 week** when it was 34.9 and it did, congrats gigabrain. Their record is now 1 wins and 0 losses
I’m in puts. XLRE. Way up. Holding to the next support…Which means it needs to reverse and moon before I sell. Ideally in premarket so I can watch it all happen without being able to do anything.
**Ban Bet Created:** **/u/wutangfinancial88** bet **XLRE** goes from **34.9** to **32.5** before **30-Mar-2023 09:29 AM EDT** Their record is 0 wins and 0 losses.
!banbet XLRE 32.50 1w
Why the fuck in XLRE up so much? Isn't commercial/industrial real estate fucked going forward?
housing must come down if Inflation is going to get too 2% wake up people huge recession this year and next might take 3 -5 + years before we see any real true market pivot and a chance of higher stocks... this recession is going to get ugly later end of this year and I expect some real fucking decent lows on the XLRE... bitcoin ain't gonna save you only the DXY will over the short term also Gold might have another drop down too... gold dosent like recessions and neither does crypto.... when the dollar starts falling which will be after they stop rate hikes and Pause that's when you buy the btc and gold then after the rally on that sell and buy back into the stock market, you should do well.
XLRE is certainly a lagging sector, but it's already priced in a significant decline. A crash would need a surprise bad new story. Short or long this sector ETF or its biggest components if you think there is a play
24 Years old. GOOGL 17% , META 17%, V 15%, MSFT 13%, AAPL 13%, MO 11%, Treasury ETF 4%, C 3%, XLRE 3%, AMZN 2%, GM 1%. This is my taxable portfolio, my ROTH is all in SP500 / Growth mutual funds. My current goals are to build my positions in AMZN and Short-Term US Treasuries to 10% Each. Also, I want to build a position into XLF.
feel like buying options in XLRE for cpi is the smarter choice it’s usually aligned with reality
Rare art and farming are underrated investments, but hard to get into. There was a platform to help make it easier, Yieldstreet, but they were found to be a scam. ​ Real Estate can be invested into on the stock market via REIT companies or REIT ETFs. Best practice is to invest into them in a Retirement account (401k, 403B, Roth IRA, or Traditional IRA) for tax protection. The most popular REIT is "O". The most popular REIT ETFs are VNQ, XLRE, FREL, and SCHH.
What is with people's obsession with REITs? Owning common equity in REITs is not the same as owning actual real estate. High yield, share price depreciation, dividend cut, rinse and repeat. Gets flushed down when the market tanks, doesn't go up as much when the market rallies. That's why REIT ETFs like XLRE and VNQ have way underperformed the market the past several years.
I have responded to this earlier. But, briefly, I hold XLRE and XLF for the underlying companies. SCHD, for me, acts as a bond that holds capital for me until there is an opportunity to deploy it elsewhere. My wife and I also make too much money for Roth IRA. I could do the backdoor, but there are issues around that.
SCHD is the only one that I own for dividends. SCHG doesn't generate much dividends, and XLRE & XLF I own for because I like the underlying companies.
That's where my 401k goes. My taxable accounts go into SCHD, SCHG, XLRE, and XLF. I like the dividends I'm getting as well as the growth.