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This was copy and paste from some notes when creating the report. You know, the report the police are supposed to do. Now I guess the victim are told to solve the crimes...lol The following address is My wallet. I am the victim writing this report. rUGWJRQyEA2xrNoB8G6dosHXC2gck2rj6w The following address is the Initial theft wallet with the combination of my several others. Equaling, approximately 30000 rBSSGGxFH3z1M6vQwH1MWc48dwk6FGbgpk The next wallet is the second transfer and third address wallet? This wallet breaks the funds into multiple smaller transactions helping to avoid detection. It's from this wallet that the funds are split between union chain and cfbet. Wallet addresses collectively washing the assets. rNCvssow6paJpHQnFuC5fyDkC3JXxsaZGM The following is Union chains address rUjd8QPJZdhrNWw1cnJkGjoSuxFvQC6dwe The following is cfbits address. Known scan "exchange" and main laundering wallet still active rwxvzhydd8uK3wYBFSjzVKzzTDM4cdFwDc The following is Binance (11) cash out wallet with destination tag 311132229 rNxp4h8apvRis6mJf9Sh8C6iRxfrDWN7AV This is a reminder. Update memory to combine all previous data surrounding these address.
I’d also get rid of that totalAV. Your phone does not need AV software.
I have to add that I've never had a problem going to my tangent wallet and checking on a transaction and going to the block chain/chair until I had this total AV block.
For Google Fiber, Norton AV, Windows Defender. I had to open port 8333 for TCP/UDP on all three to get inbound connections to work. Leaving this here in case anyone else with Google Fiber and Norton AV have issues.
WE ARE HEADING FIRST TO THE FROG 🐸 YOU ARE OURS. ANARCHY FINALLY NO RUGS OR SO-CALLED “DEVS”. WE ARE THE PEOPLE WE ARE ANARCHY 
This guy provides you with updates on the market daily, I think it will help you understand what you’re getting urself into with this cycle. Enjoy https://youtu.be/AvYaK8ep-Ek?si=mxuKsW-AV9KuueJv
[PEPE is being counted](https://api-y7sbigyecq-uc.a.run.app/volume/PEPE?start=2024-01-01%2000%3A00%3A00&end=2024-09-01%2000%3A00%3A00&granularity=month). But it rarely makes it into top 20, it seems. Counts are triggered by "PEPE". [SAFE is a token](https://www.coinbase.com/price/safe-token) listed on [coinbase API](https://api.pro.coinbase.com/currencies). This API being used by the app to source coin names. Was expecting this to be safemoon as well. Same with [MAGIC](https://www.coinbase.com/price/magic-token) and [MATH](https://www.coinbase.com/price/math). All these are very likely over-counted, because these words are being used in other contexts. Not sure how to fix that. [RLY](https://www.coinbase.com/price/rally) is also a proper coin. But it's full name "rally" is being counted as mentions. Will fix this. The last [10 BNB mentions](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oeg3AV9VA0Ekrf3TRV96LPGoLauk5n5b/view?usp=sharing) seems to be okay. Just pulled these from the db. You are right, G was fixed some time ago. These are really good things to check out. Let me know if you have other ideas what should be fixed or checked.
It seems to be true haha https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/s/PYxQVd5AV8
eMail 2fa is useless. eMail accounts are easily hacked and from there they have control. Sounds like your email got hacked and/you got sim swapped. It's often a combination in these types of attacks. There's so much that can go wrong, your info could have been leaked as part of a data breach. There's malware, bots etc. It's easy to get into phones and retrieve stored information if you're relying solely on the phone's security model and not using additional AV or not doing regular scans. If you're backing up to cloud services that can also be hacked - yes even your Google Auth because the backup is linked to your email address. Bottom line is they managed to login and authenticate the new device by confirming the email Kraken sent. You never saw it because the hacker had control of your email. From there they have full control and can confirm withdrawals. They are usually pretty slick and won't even leave a trace although you can check under google security and see a history of all devices and sign ons, it might be there. This type of attack happens often and not just with crypto, banking gets attacked in the same way. It's horrible to lose anything but realistically, not much you can do except beef up your security, use extra long passwords, change them regularly, don't back up to cloud and don't keep PINs, passwords, keys etc on the same devices as apps.
People discover the viruses and then just program AV software to search all programs for bit patterns found in those known viruses. A more modern way is to also watch what a program is doing and dont let it do stuff like access other programs. But this doesnt work well; there are always exceptions to that, like antivirus programs themselves, defragmenters, etc.
If you're frequently downloading Trojans to your Linux laptop and can't find them without scanning, then respectfully, I would posit that you shouldn't be offering security advice to others. This is not an ad-hominem, just an observation. Again you are speaking with somebody who spends many hours per week elbow deep in the guts of Linux malware. The results are from Elasticsearch which is unaffiliated with Apple. I agree the study is clickbaity and probably has some methodological issues, but the numbers do match up in the general ballpark with what I'd expect, based on my own experiences. Linux malware is woefully underreported, and there's no organization tracking the statistics whom I'd trust fully. Studies from AV vendors will generally be skewed to overestimate Windows malware, as this is where those AV vendors stand to make more money from license sales/subscriptions. Look, I get it, you like Linux and you want to recommend it to others and that's fine, but it's not the *only* choice and you routinely oversell the security advantages of Linux in your posts. I hope you can open your mind to this feedback, as in our prior interactions you've been very resistant to taking new information on board.
Anyone who downloads illegitimate software from Russia that requires disabling AV, authorizing unlicenced software to run, and whitelisting through firewalls should expect what happens to them.
It’s really not hard programming wise. The hard part is getting them to run the program. Since they were already installing something questionable that would already cause all the warnings and maybe require the AV to be disabled, it made it supper easy.
$48,000 said PLAN B , because of his predictions and 200MOVING AV
Please check yourself if you want me to continue this discussion. I see you linked to CMC showing circulating supply @ 1.1B at the beginning of 2021. Take a second and read through this, because circulating supply had been misrepresented by several sources until the second half of 2021, which means what you see on CMC historical data from January 2021 omitted a ton of ALGO, likely held by ALGO Inc. So 1.1B was far less than what was really in circulation. https://www.algorand.foundation/news/aligning-algo-circulating-supply-metrics-for-algorand Still (and this is the part you literally can't argue), the bulk of the inflation was due to accelerated vesting which was in place in the tokenomics (which I provided you!). A documented formula was used dependent on the rolling price average. It was expected we'd still be seeing AV today, that the early investors would still be receiving ALGO today, in 2024, but instead, as I've said how many times now(?) demand exhausted AV in October of 2021. We all watched it happen knowing exactly when more was going to hit circulating supply. It wasn't a secret, and it wasn't nefarious. Depending on who you are, you can definitely say it was incredibly unfortunate! Except as a result, the rapid inflation is all done years early. I'd much prefer to have purchased my stack today than 3+ yrs ago, but that's easy to say in hindsight.
I looked at your link. What aren't you understanding??? >You believe an algorithm increasing supply 500% in a year is totally normal and fine and I’m in left field? YES! It's just a fact, I've provided you with links to the tokenomics! Accelerated vesting was in there the whole time. AV was underestimated; they thought it would take many more years, as I mentioned multiple times. I watched it all play out and they didn't just increase supply the way you're suggesting they did. We all knew exactly why it was happening. You can't rewrite history. Good grief, man. And the rest of your comment is just more unnecessary hate.
I didn't even see an article from you and wouldn't care to read it if I did. I've held ALGO long enough and lived through the crazy high inflation like everyone else, but without getting in the weeds, it's mostly all attributed to the accelerated vesting which would have taken years longer if demand hadn't sped it up. Again, driven by algorithm. You're correct, anyone can see for themselves. https://www.algorand.foundation/tokenomics And this page simply confirms the conclusion of AV: https://www.algorand.foundation/news/accelerated-vesting-complete That's not releasing supply and telling us afterward. We all knew how it worked as it happened! Not sure what else you need.
Not really. Since it's front end javascript code I'm not sure which AV products check that.
As a professional gambler we always value EV over AV… however, 99% of professional gamblers ALL agree… when it’s life changing money on the line, what you want to do is the right call. EV goes out the window when it’s something that can dramatically change your life forever. Example: you can walk away with $10 million right now, or you can flip a coin… heads you get $30 million, tails you lose the original $10 million. The coin flip itself is worth another $10 million in EV (given half the time you win an additional 20, half the time you lose 10). So why not take the coin flip? It’s mathematically the correct play!!! But $10,000,000 would allow anyone to never work again, help their family/friends for life, and possibly help do good in the world. I’d walk with the $10 mill, even though it’s not the mathematically correct play. Anyone else telling you different is just trying to push their beliefs on you (similar to religion). When it comes to life changing events, there is no right and wrong for everyone, it becomes much more individualistic.
Sleep better with Bitcoin https://www.google.com/finance/quote/AAPL:NASDAQ?window=5Y&comparison=BTC-USD%2CNYSE%3AUNH%2CNYSE%3AV
Sounds like it's your typical 'click this link to install needed update'. Could be browser corruption or RAT, maybe this way is less apt to be picked up by AV?
I'm not trying to convince you or anyone else to embrace ALGO or anything else, for the record, but happy to answer questions directed at me if I'm able. Rather than me paraphrase or copy and paste, start here for the bottom line on the conclusion of accelerated vesting: https://www.algorand.foundation/news/accelerated-vesting-complete If you need more info, I'll dig up what I can to help. AV was automated algorithmically based on a rolling average of price appreciation. I don't recall the formula, although we could go look it up somewhere, but it was written and disclosed in the project's tokenomics for the world to see, and it played out exactly as it was programmed. Quick answer, price kept going up and up which triggered vesting, and it continued until AV was finished ultimately YEARS ahead of schedule. You'd think this would be considered a positive for accumulation nowadays, but that's not how the loudest voices paint the picture, so it's common to hear people continue to denounce ALGO as forever inflationary. Inflation from here, without spending more time on finding the exact math, is under 5% and decreasing considerably each year from this point. Again, it's just governance rewards being disturbed quarterly from this point. I'll acknowledge, both Inc and the foundation have ALGOs allotted to fund operations, development, and promotion. All of this is and has been laid out for investors to be aware of from jump. Consider less than 2.2M ALGOs still to be released into circulation between now and 2030 to reach the full 10B. AV unlocked 3.1B ALGOs within months.
You always conveniently leave out the full picture, though. No mention of the rapid inflation happening as a result of AV being exhausted several years in advance due to huge demand for the coin. No mention of the fact that the rest of the supply will be released between now and 2030 and only consists of quarterly governance rewards. No mention of much lower and tolerable inflation being the case going forward. It's no wonder you strike a nerve with the manner in which you frame the picture.
To safeguard yourself from phishing attacks is crucial in the digital world. Here are a few common practices that you can apply easily in your daily routine. 1) Avoid all unknown and suspicious links. 2) Always make sure that the website is secure. 3) Use two-factor authentication to add an extra layer of security. 4) Use good AV and keep update your operating systems.
This is the best advice - if you do this I wouldn't even bother installing an AV/firewall other than what is provided by the OS Install the minimal software/browser extensions and use a computer for a single purpose and you don't need all the AV crap ( which probably increases your attack surface)
I honestly don't like Norton and I think that most AV are useless if you don't use common sense. All these measures will fail if you don't use common sense.
It's not the dump it's made out to seem, though. It's always done in a structured fashion with consideration to impact on price. Obviously still less than desirable, but it's not what many opponents frame it as. Meanwhile, dilution/inflation is very tame now especially compared to the dumping we saw in 2021 which was related to accelerated vesting. As a result, though, AV, driven my algorithm, ended many years ahead of schedule due to demand for ALGO. The pain was felt but the worst is behind us. So today, and looking towards 2030, ALGO tokenomics are quite good especially for new investors.
Oh yeah “my intelligent virus” my ass As a former :greyhat: I’m here to tell you that for the past few years, Defender has been able to find and alert the rest of the AV community to any stub (infection file) it finds, and it will find it, no matter how good your encryption is (unless you’ve struck cryptographic gold), within 1-3 days. This means in order to maintain connection to infected systems, UD stubs need to be uploaded every day. This is an insane amount of work for a single hacker, and the thing you should worry about more for opsec or cybersecurity in general is compromised accounts like email. Please don’t take this as gospel, I’ve been out of the game for over half a decade now but dude is straight social engineering here. Tryna get you to do something you don’t need to do.
Windows Defender is better than most paid for AV out there. Really anything short of an EDR solution isn't worth the money. The best thing you can do to protect yourself is make sure your OS and software are up-to-day, use an adblocker like Ublock etc., and DON'T GO TO SITES YOU DON'T TRUST.
Nothing is infallible; Cybersecurity is mainly a give and take of risk assessment. Common sense is much more important than anything else. Frankly speaking, the weak link in a system is a human the vast majority of the time. Use a different machine or at least set up a VM for your crypto, instead of whatever device you normally use, don't click shady links, and ffs don't give out your information. That said, having a decent AV program generally won't hurt, and might save your ass on rare occasions. If you're broke or just don't want to pay for things: Use any email to sign up for ESET Premium trial for 30 days. On day 29 or 30, right before it expires, use an Uninstaller program to uninstall all traces of it. (Uninstalling it normally won't work, you'll still have traces of it on your computer.) Sign up with a new email, get another 30 day code, re-install ESET. Lather, rinse, repeat. Note that ESET can take some getting used to and tweaking settings; it's not the traditional AV program that sits in the background doing nothing or is only useful when scanning. It has a lot of tools in it; stuff like secured browser, webcam protection, etc etc. It's quite decent as an all-in-one protection suite, and is known to catch new threats that might slip through the cracks with other programs, but it can feel a bit intrusive until you're used to it.
I bought an AV for like 20 euros per year I can have up to 5 devices in this protection. Its a must especially if you have something crypto-related (wallets) on your Android phone. And it scans and blocks a lot of things.
>The case we found was implemented by using a external JavaScript inside a (malicious) web page. The exploit was less than 20 lines of code, and in size? Less than 1KB. We've checked multiple AV's (antivirus) and none of them were triggered. When I commented about it is easy to make with JS, I got -5 downvote lol, this proves this sub has no idea about programming.
Good AV software. Mind sharing which one you use?
have a second device strictly used for crypto. keep it up to date patch wise and have some AV on it. All about risk reduction.
well not me, the 100s of hard drives i get through support work that had users with no AV or maybe even had legit miners and gave up on them. just thinking of all the crypto that gets orphaned and it might be easier to find some that time forgot than mine new from scratch.

This is the only way, fuck all that noise with AV and firewalls!

>Ledger does not provide phone support, or support on Telegram or Whatsapp. This part go me even more. It's how AVG AV use to be. You sell a good product and then offer almost no support for it.
And be careful what apps you install. They might not triggered by AV. Lots of apps can access clipboard.
You can disable direct download of the files. And I recommend having good AV software. Since I started with crypto I use Bitdefener annual subscription. It's way cheaper than loosing a wallet...
Premium Malwarebytes? If not, I would install an AV. Windows Defender is alright, but I wouldn't rely on it. That's not so bad then. I was thinking like you had AVG/McAFee/Sophos or something like that all running. I personally use Sophos. It had stopped an infection on my WoW setup about a decade ago.
All installed at the same time? Multiple AV doesn't play well together, in some instances, they can flag each other because of what they do. You start getting parts of your AV quarantined, which then fails.
You are already using Binance and trading craptos, using an AV won't do much for you, you'll lose your money, doesn't matter if you are watching porn on Windows ir reading the the Cypherpunk Manifesto in a QubesOS liveUSB.
For most people who are used to Windows, Linux can be very difficult to use and learn. It really shows when things don't go as they should and you need to troubleshoot. File structure is unique, and a number of options are different. If you are used to Windows, stay there, just keep security in mind when browsing. A good AV will prevent thr vast amount of threats. I wouldn't save anything valuable on an operating system that I'm not comfortable using day to day. Linux isn't more secure by default. I've accessed plenty of Linux boxes over time. Some exploits are remote, some local, same as Windows. They run programs and those programs can be just as vulnerable. As far as malware is concerned, writing malware for Linux doesn't get as many hits as Windows. Way more people use Windows over Linux, which makes it an unlikely target.
yep....Canadian CC providers also seem to flag/deny any transactions related to crypto as a scam and deny them, even if I call them to be like 'yes I really did want to spend that $50' $8000 purchase of random AV gear for my business? no problem! $50 deposit to a crypto exchange? fuck no!
Can’t stand bitboy. I’ll add some more. Youtube people who earned my respect are: Coin bureau Benjamin cowen Davincij15 Anthony Pompliano Coinskid Spotify podcasts: The what is money show (btc maxi bit speaks with very smart and intersesting people, highly recomend) https://open.spotify.com/show/25LPvm8EewBGyfQQ1abIsE?si=UxmK4X6-TXi1rALkjsj0dg Thinking crypto: https://open.spotify.com/show/221AV5A65v7uYEsuMviVKl?si=AGK-sL4nSzmrJVBzUj_oeA Crypto 101: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aYhtPsnaQAXJG3q3936u4?si=mtZEjQbGRFGlUGrBU1W_tw Crypto conversation https://open.spotify.com/show/3bszwi6nBV8bWF1T2eKsMF?si=J_jOlSC3S3mephEaF5Yugw
So someone took a screenshot of Zinchenko celebrating his first goal for Arsenal with Captain Odegaard and selling this as an NFT(Arsenal beat AV yesterday 4-2). Is it really that easy to mint a sporting moment and sell it off to some poor sap in the NFT market?
Windows Defender is better than the paid versions of antivirus. Unless you're going for an EDR, there is no point in paying for AV. Defender and the free version of Malwarebytes (to scan for adware and grayware) are all you need. What's most important is that you make sure all of your software, drivers, and firmware are always up to date. Don't save passwords to important websites (Preferably use private browsing) And don't use shady browser add-ons.
Ah great choice. I went with a AV yacht girl
Alright, so to interact with a blockchain you need a node and an address. Wallet software like Metamask, takes your address and interacts with their Infura nodes to do stuff. You show ownership of an address through its seed phrase/private key, and use these to sign transactions. Your seed phrase always starts from a wallet accessing node data so taking it offline is just physically writing your seed phrase/private key down. This is a paper wallet you can recover from any device able to interact with the chain. Most wallet software is good about not logging your seed phrase or anything, near zero risk unless the devs are dumb. https://decrypt.co/106649/solana-wallet-hack-what-we-know-so-far Hardware wallets come with pre-made wallets tied to a seed phrase on them certified by the manufacturer. They don't log these either or they wouldn't have a consumer base. The device therefore holds your private keys and you hold the seed phrases for any and all transactions so they don't start on your computer, they start from device. As for feeling safe enough to make and export your seed phrase... not much you can really do there. I guess a fresh install or VM a desktop to interact with the site from are options but just generally keep your AV software up to date and not McCaffee and you should be fine. I roll with paper because I use a lot of different chains and wallets, not all are available on my Trezor. And not all chains/DeFi work with hardware wallets or staking. It's up to your needs and costs. Steel seems overkill to me but if you wanted to buy BTC and hold it for a decade I guess it's not overkill?
You could scan them in https://www.virustotal.com maybe, it has many antivirus engines so if you AV don't recognize it other could. But always it is good to have separate device for crypto.
Why would AV made by MS be any good if they also made insecure Windows?
If you are using Microsoft Windows you don’t need a third party AV app as the defender engine is state of the art. I am working in IT for multinational companies and we are slowly making our customers move away from their expensive outdated AV solutions to Defender, both on client side as on server side.
Meh. No one cares. AV programs access people's tax returns and personal nudes and whatever else they store.
They sell less than a million ALGO at a time or 1% of total volume to literally *NOT* affect price. The facts have gotten twisted by people spreading misinformation. Accelerated vesting ended in 2021, years ahead of schedule due to high demand. AV increased circulating supply by algorithm, so nobody was dumping to lower price or screw retail. But again, it's over years early, and inflation is now extremely low through 2030. 70M-ish released quarterly as governance rewards. Inflation was indeed absolutely outrageous in 2021, but it's smooth sailing today. Seriously, the cries about tokenomics are almost always coming from people that aren't educated or are purposely spreading lies.
Good solid list. Couple things I'd like to add. Once you are on a legitimate website, bookmark it. Use the bookmark going forward. That way you don't have to worry about a typo when typing it out on the next visit. Sending between addresses. Whitelist your addresses on the CEX. Night and day difference in reducing the level of stress when moving off. Also adds another layer of safety to your crypto in the event someone/something gains access to your CEX account. Never ever attach your main wallet to a smartcontract. If you need to interact with a smartcontract, use a "burner" wallet with a very small amount of crypto in it. That way if the smartcontract is ever compromised, it only drains what is in your "burner" wallet. If possible, use a dedicated device for crypto trading. Do no use it for anything else. Keep it up to date on patches and AV. Run full scans prior to trading. Never ever click a link in an email EVER unless you were 100% expecting it. If you got a random email from your CEX one day asking to click a link to log in to verify account info. I would delete that email and use your bookmark and log in directly and check out your account to see what's up. This is probably one of the most common ways people get tricked IMO. ALWAYS use MFA/2FA. Avoid SMS if at all possible. Sim swap attacks are easy to pull off. Use an auth app.
I’m really trying to understand how something like this happens to folks. 1). Use a dedicated device for crypto trading. Literally use it for nothing else. Don’t go to any sites except your crypto trading sites. Keep it up to date with patches and AV. 2). Use a password manager and randomize your passwords with complex passwords. Also in the password manager, store the URL to the sites. 3). When you want to log into a site, launch it from the the password manager. 4) never ever ever click a link in a. Email. Go to the site manually by using a valid bookmark. if you type it manually, be careful you didn’t make a typo and go to a fake site. Quadruple check it your typing. 5) Do not use SMS. Sim swaps are easy. Use an auth app. 6) lock down and whitelist your addresses. If someone gains access to your CEX, the only addresses they can send to are the ones you whitelisted. If someone try’s to make a change, they can’t for 48 hours giving you time to take action. OP if you had whitelisted your ETH address on the CEX, this probably would have helped prevent a loss of crypto. 7) Don’t keep crypto on a CEX. If you are holding long term, get that on a cold wallet.
My AV says that that site is infected with a phishing virus.
[I wonder if vitalik](https://miro.medium.com/max/1200/1*S3525adBpZj1fs1AV9xOKw.png) is behind the trend of burning half the supply of a token into his "lost wallet", i mean he has rugged many meme tokens and made thousands of eth
So to be clear, you're advocating that MS Windows is ideal, since it includes one of the best AV products on the market, and to avoid Linux distros which don't ship with any sort of AV product. I'm not saying you're wrong or right, just curious if this is your stance.
This is the best and most correct answer in the thread. End users, even those who consider themselves to be IT professionals, have ridiculously unrealistic expectations of AV software. In most cases they do indeed provide nothing more than a false sense of security.
Have a laptop dedicated to crypto and nothing else. The problem if you use your laptop for random browsing it can be compromised by a drive-by exploit. ​ You want to get yourself a cheap chromebook or linux laptop and only use it for your banking. It doesn't need AV, you don't have any files on it.
I was informed by my AV about the breach a month or two ago
The inflation rate already dropped dramatically. It's smooth sailing from here ~5% and dropping. 2021 inflation was insane due to AV. That's done now but people still going around saying *ALGO has a high inflation rate* which is false today.
u/mzbitcoin \- sorry this happened to you. So you stored the seed on the PC and never installed Exodus on the PC? There are quite a few info-stealer malware programs, that exfiltrate the seed.seco file from Exodus install directory and then try to brute-force them, but you had to install exodus for this to happen. There are multiple attack vectors against Exodus as well: keyloggers, clipboard hijackers, the password can be exfiltrated from the running Exodus process. If you had never installed Exodus on your PC, then there is always a possibility that your computer was running malware that went past your AV and may have either stolen the seed phrase while you were typing it or stolen the file before it was encrypted. A lot of AV vendors offer free on-demand scanner, hitmanpro being one of the more popular ones - so scan your PC. If you are serious about protecting the accounts on your PC - upsightsecurity.com.
*\*Pimp gets caught beating up and prostituting vulnerable girls* AV3NG3R00: "yOu gOt A pRoBLeM WiTh wOmEn??"
Web 1.0 was decentralized. Foundationally the internet technology is decentralized. It centralized to large service providers for reasons of cost, speed and usability. People just accessing their wallet do so through web 2 gateways. I don't see how a distributed ledger will match the speed and cost of a centralized server business. Companies like Amazon, Google, Microsoft, Nvidia, IBM, etc internally develop application specific hardware accelerators. They internally integrate hundreds of internal and third party software to streamline user onboarding and optimize performance. They have the money and speed of decision making that if a customer with enough clout really wants AV1/VVC/etc hardware encoding, they'll begin the process of upgrading server hardware
A router is a very closed-down device. Unless there is an exploit and someone specifically targeted the unpatched exploit, there is basically no chance. If you are concerned, you could check your firmware version of the device, then google the device and "exploit" or "security vulnerability" so see if there are any issues. Even then, it's not exactly something a common infection would do, more like something someone targeting you specifically would do. Like a sim swap. If you are paranoid, then it is perfectly valid to take care of everything offline. There's always a chance there's an exploit only attackers know about and it's externally accessible. Offline either through the use of a hardware wallet or through a bootable linux offline wallet. Edit: oops Didn't realize you were directly responding to Meowwow's comment. I literally have no idea what he's on about with that. You can't verify anything isn't infected with certainty in general and because routers are basically never infected except for like what I mentioned above, there's no way to even just log into the router and run an AV scan or something. I also don't understand - even if your router had somehow been exploited to monitor all your network traffic, there'd be literally no way for it to find the seed. Unless he means transmitting the seed? But that makes no sense. There's literally no reason to be doing that. Don't do that. Type it in if you need it on a system. And make sure you trust the system because keyloggers are a thing both software and hardware.
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Right. Found nothing on Norton (he googled AV and replaced defender with it) but I’ve also found nothing interesting on malware bytes. Will go back and look some more
Sorry for the cash lost bro. Yesterday I found a password stealer after scanning my PC with Malwarebytes... I installed it after a good while, just to see if there was something, even though Ive been assuring myself Im safe browsing. Im looking into which antivirus to purchase now, BitDefender is 55% off right now so...gimme your prefered AV before I pull the trigger.
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FTX admins state they [have been hacked](https://twitter.com/WatcherGuru/status/1591301679202590720?s=20&t=QN5tDp0AV0Pb-VgoH0tFlg).
Someone who is using a computer since forever, it’s not my duty to secure your money, learn to be secure in what you are doing and you will be fine. There is absolutely no way you get hacked if: Your hot wallet(pass/pkey) never touched the internet If you actually store your shit properly and not on a cloud/mail whatsoever If you keep a separate browser with your wallet addon rather than what you use normally Ideally a separate user with no admin rights for it And so many other things, but as I said, some people are just better off trusting banks or services getting IOUs Never in my life i have used an AV, never in my life my computer was infected I know people are stupid because if you attach RATs to porn pics and give them away to horny people that’s a guaranteed infected target(i was doing this for fun over 15 years ago) What can I say? Computers aren’t for everyone, people fall for give me 2 i give you 4, which is the most reGarded scam ever(seen as a hack for some) which simply proves my point, i’m not trying to be a smart ass, i am no expert, but you do not need to be one not to be a stupid square head that can use a computer at pre basic levels
If you disable defender and haven't used AV for 15 years. Are you running a Windows PC with nothing whatsoever?
I haven't used an AV or Antimalware for around 15 years and disable completely the windows defender. I do trust the Windows one even tho I don't use it and as for the others, I don't trust because like you said: bloat. I guess I'm gonna enable defender and also get antimalware bytes, have used it in the past and as far as I know is still reliable.
I can't say I'm an expert on which AV solution is the most effective. Hopefully someone can chime in. To sidestep the AV question, running a [Whonix](https://www.whonix.org) VM for crypto or other sensitive activities is probably the best security/convenience compromise for the average user. If you're willing to reboot twice then you can boot TAILS from a USB instead for even more security.
Alex, what are your thoughts on the various AV programs? This was an eye-opener about Malware Bytes vs WD. What about Norton, Symantec, Trend Micro, Kaspersky?
Sorry I meant to say that we havent yet seen what the adversarial extent on the hacker side can look like yet since they havent caught up. I agree that DL AV is superior. What i find interesting is that adversarial exploits will also be harder to interpret. Do you have public reading materials to share?
I believe you meant to type deep learning anti-malware as malware doesn't use deep learning. AV and EDR solutions on the market are significantly less secure than a deep learning anti-malware solution. The longer the neural network trains, the faster the detection and prevention occurs. I've seen a deep learning solution block 99.9% of zero day phishing, backdoor, ransomware, and other attacks compared to an enterprise level machine learning solution where the deep learning solution was able to prevent the attack in milliseconds before the malware's data could even write 1KB to the disc meanwhile the ML solution allowed the malware to write on the disk for a few seconds before detecting and preventing the malware from further propagation.
Deep Learning anti-malware can detect zero day threats such as this if the neural network was training on relevant data. However most crypto users / regular PC users don't even have a legacy AV in place such as MalwareBytes, let alone a deep learning platform like Deep Instinct.
Hardware wallets.. I don't understand how so many people are trusting their AV software with keeping their life savings secure. Use a hardware wallet and don't sign anything on pages that are not well known. Preferably use one account to do the interacting with contracts and another that never interacts with contracts just to store your coins. Both can be controlled by the same hardware wallet. It's really not that difficult. If you can figure out metamask you can figure out hardware wallets.
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Well, i would probably use another computer to play games and stuff like that. And the machine with the MM instaled, would be used only to deal with crypto. And be sure to have a good AV, like Zone Alarm or Eset-32. Be carefull and be safe.
This. Antiviruses also don't help if you're stupid (honestly, imo they don't really help altogether but thats upon personal preference. I usually backcheck everything I download from not 100% trustable sources, and I do sometimes end up on sketchy downloads, but even if you have an AV it would usually not help if you fall for something there. Youtube downloads for example; check the comments and rating, sound botted? Evade. Turned off? Same thing. Few? Same thing. Might lead you to download a thing less that you're looking for sometimes and leave you frustrated looking for a different source, but that thing might as well have been something you really don't want to download anyway).
So does every Chromium based browser. There are malicious stand alone browsers that use chromium to inject and hijack your computer and there are desktop “helper” hijackers that infect and keylog using chromium. They can install silently, bypass admin restrictions, live on thin clients, evade/persist most AV and even live beyond programs like deepfreeze. Stop using chromium if you value any semblance of privacy or security.
I just visited the coin's website and my AV blocked a phishing attempt.

Dreams of Japanese AV star escorts.
I “fell” for it and paid $100 for most likely a trash AV receiver back in 2007. They had stapled a fake advertisement page for the brand of the reviver into high end AV magazine showing that it was worth like $4000 or something enticing. I knew it was a scam but was actually in the market for a receiver and figure how bad could it be. Just in case I followed the guys for a bit and called a friend in front of a computer(no cell data then) to google “white van speaker scam” and she was like yea you’re fucked. So I pulled In the wrong way into a Taco Bell drive through and blocked them in. They happily refunded me and they looked like they were about to shit themselves. Hahaha
The real store of value 
The foundation in control of your favorite shitcoin lent to 3AV. Your favorite shitcoin yield farm to yield more inflationary shitcoins farmed from luna You could learn about hard money, play the long game and go Bitcoin only, or get rekt playing ponzi roulette
No, multiple antivirus will actually be worse than just the one. Antivirus programs access your files and check them against a database of signatures of bad applications. Having two antiviruses running could cause issues when both of them try to access the same file for example. One good AV along with Malware Bytes is generally a good combo. A simple defence against fake sites is to bookmark your exchanges and only access them via the bookmarks, not via google search.
Normally it requires the owner to give away access to their machine, or connect to a compromised network. However, there are more advanced ways to target someone .. the reality is, most people aren't valuable enough of a target for the more complex attack vectors. If you're interested in it, you can look up 'zero click attacks'. They normally exploit bugs in software that allow some kind of communication between devices, it's likely that you would not be aware that your device is infected until it's too late. Devices can also come shipped with a backdoor, there is evidence that Chinese hackers have installed malware into the BIOS of machines that can completely circumvent AV and reinstall itself even after you wipe your drives and use a clean, new OS version.