XLF

AccountableMike

Just FYI... if this is a buy-and-hold portfolio, then the mix of 30% QQQM + 10% XLE + 10% XLF is likely to be pretty close to VTI in the long run (60% Growth + 40% Value being not far off current overall US stock market) but with more funds and higher expense ratios. I would just go with 100% VTI in that case. If it's not meant to be long-term buy-and-hold and you will change your portfolio composition over time, then nevermind.

Rico_Stonks

Personally I would swap XLF and XLE for international exposure with VXUS. Good plan though!

AlE833

I’m just in the S&P and the Nasdaq. That’s basically enough unless you want VT but I’m not a big fan of it. Not a bad idea to allocate smaller amounts to ETFs like SCHD and XLF

tony_bologna

There's an ETF for pretty much anything you could ever want. XL_ for any sector you could think of (XLE energy, XLF financials, etc), throw in EEM for emerging markets, MSOS for weed, PISL for psychedelics, PRINT for 3D printing, BLOK for blockchain, VO for mid cap, AVUV for small cap value! ARKK because you hate money, or just "say fuck it I give up" and put it all in VOO. It's up to you to choose *how* you want to diversify, and then I guarantee there's an ETF for it. And there's a lot of different strategies for that too. There's a shitload of websites you can find them on. direxion.com for example.

manuel029

There’s the ETFs XLE and XLF. Also Wells Fargo has been pretty good recently, so might be an equity to look into as well

nickman23

>XLF I think Uranium - period. So clear its going to skyrocket.

beavervsotter

Oh, I have lol. You and I think alike. The four ETFs I’m trying to get on discount are XLF, XLE, FSNRX (diversified realty index), and GSG (commodities index).

gravescd

Please. My XLF puts are suffering hopium withdrawal.

Capital-Mention2036

XLF

gravescd

Thanks for the insight. What I'm hearing is that my puts might not be toast yet, but I'll probably have to DCA the shares to go positive in my XLF position anytime soon.

gravescd

Anyone have thoughts on how XLF will react to fed news tomorrow? Interest rates -should- help banks, but in December XLF followed SPY/QQQ down the next day.

goddamnusernamefuck

Thinking of XLF calls, assuming fed stays the course with no rate hike now. They're backed into a corner tho so who knows

Sapere_aude75

Excited for my RIVN, QQQ, and SPY puts. Not so excited for my new IWM, VTV, RSP, JPM, AMD, XLF, and TSCO calls/shares

ideapit

You don't want my answer. I went to cash in 2021 because my guess was that this would happen. So I'm just shorting stocks, have some SQQQ calls and XLF calls. Waiting for the bottom - apparently, we're not there yet. Besides that just researching what stocks to pick out of the sea of blood now that they're way underpriced. When the bombs stop dropping, there will be money to be made. Yes. I will go fuck myself. I'm sorry you're taking a hit, man. That sucks.

d_left

Been riding my XLF puts to try and counter my regardedness

webulltrade

Wouldn't JPM or GS be better? Those have been dropping a lot. XLF moves at a snail's pace.

borknar

Financials looking good might grab $XLF $FAS if we get some red on Tuesday

codefragmentXXX

As soon as it became obvious inflation was high i sold all my tech stocks and moved into XLF and XLE.

lastbose01

Markets seemed a little panicky near the end. For example, a little surprised that XLF fell with the market. Expense is an issue at banks, but it should be more than offset by rising interest rates in coming months.

Ok_Brilliant4181

I bought the XLF ETF last year when I wanted to get into bank stocks. I’ve been adding to my position lately since they introduced rate hikes.

ran0102

XLF leaps. 4-5 interest rates hikes this year will definitely help banks make billions and billions in more profits in the upcoming quarters.

Jopapiju

My shorts are NVDIA, AMD, JPM, UWMC and XLF etf by the way

gravescd

In that case I hope XLF burns the fucking ground in the next hour.

gravescd

Does each contract count as a separate trade wrt to the pattern day trade rule? I definitely just accidentally got 10 XLF puts instead 1. I do not want to be this leveraged on a single asset, but on the upside it it could also singlehandedly save my portfolio if it goes down even a little bit Monday.

___AJ___

If youre looking for a trade, i think XLF puts are a good bet. Its not that far off from from highs, has been carrying SPY past 2 years, and Cramer said buy banks so inverse

nivek_123k

Scalping is not something I look to do as a anything more than an engagement play. If I do this, I simply trade the stock... ex: Sell 100 shares of WFC (because F that place), and buy an equivalent cash value of say... BAC, or XLF (banking ETF). This trade would be put on in the AM, and taken off ASAP. Stock trades cost me no commissions. I could do the same thing in an option chain. Buy a 90 delta put on WFC, buy a 90 CALL on something else of equal notional value... however this would cost commissions, and the bid/ask is often wider for far ITM options.

VoteNixon2024

XLF 2025 leaps let's go baby 💸

mrericvillalobos

Only have three at the moment. Sector ETFs; XLP XLF XLE

Didntlikedefaultname

VTI- 70%. VXUS- 10%. Qqqm- 10%. XLF- 5%. TAN- 5%

GHOST_OF_PEPE_SILVIA

XLE banging XLF…. not so much

Gadshill

Looks like last week was an impressive bull trap in XLF (Financials). Really ugly reversal.

95Daphne

While I kind of want to pick up SIVB or ALLY (or maybe both, just one in two different accounts), this is a good example of why going with the crowd can burn you. A lot of people have invested in XLF to start this year, and the same kind of stuff burned investors with ARKK last year. It also isn't clear that it'd be helpful outside of in the long run, maybe losing you less money. Yes, in 2000-2001, you had old economy stuff such as banks perform well for a while until everything truly cracked. In more recent tantrums the Dow just gets hammered too and there is really nowhere that you can hide (has the most exposure to banks of the major averages). Only thing you can really do is learn how to hedge.

wsb202009

I was watching XLF last 2-3 months, market made XLF bottom on Dec 20th and then it was bullish until Jan middle before bank results. I was expecting it to go down after results when all banks are giving results and it exactly did. The issue is to watch closely the price and know the fluctuations. Market looked XLF 3 weeks before and made it appx peak during results time.

splittyboi

No I know what you were saying I was just rambling. Yeah the bearishness market wide has increased a lot and it’s getting more crowded. But let’s consider the bullish trade over the past 2 years. That could be said to have been “crowded” as well. And yet it went on and on. Trends tend to be crowded by definition. It may be slightly too early to definitively say we are on a bearish trend, but economic data and technicals serve to add to that thesis more so than one in which this is another routine “buy the dip” situation. Tomorrow’s going to be a big day with us retesting that’s 4550 level so I think we’ll get more confirmation one way or the other very soon. Cut my XLF longs last week as well, but am still looking for reentry after further earnings ass chapping.

capper78

I guess i was unclear, I meant that you were correctly buying in when nobody was on your side, even being to the point of nasty replies. Market rewarded you and everybody floods over to join team bear. I am just saying that perhaps the side is now too crowded.. everyone is bearish tech, long banks and long oil. Banks Bulls already got their ass shot today. All while i was quietly building a position in FAZ. Cashed it out today cause XLF met my target of the 50SMA and don't want to fight BAC MS earnings after they have already got a cut. Nobody is wanting ARKK names, the fintech names, nobody is buying puts on oil. Thats my play right now, again shortterm, tech will pump again, and thats a new opportunity to go short when SPY retests its 50 and 20 SMAs before March brings an entirely different environment, and i have a hunch that Mr Market wants to squeeze the last few drops out of retail bulls right before we see a "real" correction. (looking at TSLA, AAPL, MSFT GOOGL etc)

CHERCK_FLOKI

Goldman shat the bed and now financials and banks are fukk. Estimates have to be really sky high for a good price action moving forward. This is an easy quick short for XLF. Calling it again. Easy money boys. Don't sleep on this one.

CHERCK_FLOKI

Lmao. Goldman shat the bed and you think financials will be good? Shorting XLF 😂😂.

BarredOutGambler

puts on XLF might be a safer play than puts on individual banks considering their earnings are this week and also elevated IV. thoughts?

7loUge

It's not clear if you're asking about JPM or banks in general. In general, it's not possible to make one determination for all banks. Are you thinking about XLF? You also didn't mention any kind of holding period, which makes answering the question difficult. As far as JPM, you'd want to look at their expected lowered return on equity and expected costs going forward, which Jamie Dimon already addressed. Have some kind of model of valuation for them, and that will tell you the correct buy/sell points. Anything else are just opinions you won't know if are valid or not.

No-Improvement3164

XLF 44c 2/18. Double down or bail?

JXBambooLeaf

High inflation is followed by rate hikes, more persistent high inflation requires greater extent/more rate hikes. There are etf that hedge against rising rates, e.g. PFIX, or etf that short treasury bonds like TYO. Retail/consumer banking get benefited during rate hikes too (if short-term and long-term rates widen, i.e. yield curve steepened. Consider XLF, VFH, stocks like BAC JPM and WFC. Last but not least, so your due diligence.

mold_motel

XLF getting killed.

StuGats

Really wishing I bought more of those XLF 1/21 puts right now.

95Daphne

If you want a full on market puke, you LOVE the fact that TNX was very close to up a full 0.1 a couple hours ago. It had me cringing (i clearly don’t want a full on puke). I have 2-2.5% this year, but it’s going to be 2% by Wednesday at this rate and if it is, that likely causes the market to plunge period outside of XLE, yes, it has helped XLF at times, but it has gotten roped in on bond routs if it’s too much.

95Daphne

Yeah, like I said earlier today somewhere else, the bank sector kind of got hammered in the morning on 10/13/2021 after JPM reported. I remember as I had been frustrated at that point. Not because I was in JPM options and it sold off, but because the market wasn't performing all that great. But then everything reversed and banks getting smoked in that morning (XLF finished -0.57%, but it definitely was worse at the lows of the day) turned into an indicator of...nothing one day later.

BackgroundJudge2896

I’m 90% QCOM plays right now, so mostly just letting those keep printing for me until 2/18. Also holding MS and MSFT upside plays through their respective earnings. And will see if XLF calls are worth holding once Europe closes tomorrow. Avoiding SPY completely this week. Even with my pocket change

mrericvillalobos

XLF XLE XLP; Money, gas, and food. All you need to survive twenty22

MinimumCat123

I just buy XLF if I want exposure to the banking industry, that or BAC.

Purple-Duck1185

I went for XLF recently but I don’t gave many expectations of it to go up anytime soon. I am in for at least 5-10 years so it doesn’t really matter I also got BP, I find them to have a huge potential, especially as they are adopting “green” model at fast pace. Also got XOM month ago, it should go up, but not to much. As soon as they peak a bit I will sell and move to BP. Also I got into RIO, just based on my feeling that they will do quite well in upcoming years. They are getting more sustainable which should reduce costs and are acquiring lithium mines to keep up with growing demand. Even though they had few scandals I believe they are in good position to grow.

No-Improvement3164

My dumb ass sold my WFC calls before the report and hung onto XLF.

No-Improvement3164

My XLF calls turned to shit Friday. Is next week going to be better

TheRahulParmar

XLF ITM puts lmao

paragonfishhead

Is there an ETF that would accurately correlate gains/losses of the aluminum companies without the same level of IV crush? XLF worked extremely well for strangles for banks, so I'm wondering if we can play the same trick

A_Stoic_Dude

International Large Cap Value ETFs are looking good. Dividend stocks. I think Energy will be strong all year. They were up a lot in 2021 but there is still value to be had. Anything with lots of cash, strong cash flow, and isn't trading at a PE of like 50 is on my radar. Semiconductors. Holdings include COWZ XLE XLF CFG VLUE CDC FCX. Lots of 7.2% I Bonds and 9.5% yield stablecoins.

wiarumas

Banks are up 12% for the last month. Regardless of good or bad earnings, I'm expecting a sell the news event. My eyes on KRE as I'm expecting a similar pattern to XLF on Friday.

SaneLad

I've never seen so many bank logos in a single screenshot. Calls on XLF.

TMMAG

XLF went down btw

Successful_Car1670

Except XLF, almost a 5 bagger

DarklyAdonic

Let's see. My self directed IRA doesn't let me buy options less than 7DTE, so i kept the call side of my XLF strangle in that account. Looking good so far. Also sold a bunch of 2.50p CSPs on some shitty microcap (rhymes with Dingo Dentures) for some theta action. I'm a degenerate gambler so decided to buy a 467C / 461P straddle for Monday.

_hiddenscout

XLF will have less risk, since it's an ETF. Financials should in theory do well with higher interest rates. It also did double of what JMP did last year.

BroseBroeno

JPM or XLF? XLF is an etf, but it's close to it's ath. JPM is there second biggest holding. JPM is down over 5 percent. I'm kinda thinking XLF thoughts?

DarklyAdonic

My XLF strangle went well. 65% overall profit with a profit of 205% on the put leg. https://imgur.com/JrFnsik.jpg

mold_motel

XLF calls down 100 percento.

cryptohorn

XLF puts paid!!

paragonfishhead

guys my XLF puts are green, my MSFT calls are green, I can't believe my day is going so fucking well. the only thing that has no value is is the T lottos I spent 20$ on lol

Painkiller_830

XLF puts were the move 1/21 42p x10 1/21 40.5p x5 bought at yesterdays peak

Hotpocketsand

$XLF if you're lazy. JPM, BAC, Blackrock, etc

Secgrad

Damn, hope none of you bought XLF or bank calls at the top

paragonfishhead

I got XLF puts. Let's see how these go at open: [https://imgur.com/YeUMJQk](https://imgur.com/YeUMJQk) I can also almost guarantee my XLF are utterly fucked lmao, do straddles count for 0dte? If not, then I'll just submit my T and LMT that are also utterly fucked lmao: [https://imgur.com/a/z3sWyla](https://imgur.com/a/z3sWyla)

paragonfishhead

Looks like my XLF straddle is going to help mitigate my MSFT losses today boys, lol

JorgeVanderbilte

Rip my XLF

95Daphne

The bank sector is down over 1.2% in premarket and plummeting based off XLF, and I can’t say that I’m surprised, because people piled into the banks. I would like to grab one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t perform as anticipated, as this is what the crowd rushed into.

bfvass

All these banks with decent earnings but down big thus my XLF calls were a bad idea

LeBhikariLe

Puts on XLF? All banks are down heavy

DarklyAdonic

I mean...XLF has run up 6% in the last month while most stuff has gone down or sideways. That's some pretty high expectations for boomer stocks

DarklyAdonic

Looks like WFC is the only thing holding up XLF premarket. My condolences to callholders

MinimumCat123

JPM gonna drag XLF down with it while the rest of the industry is gonna post good ER. Johnny Morgan would be disappointed.

paragonfishhead

I got XLF straddles :D

Helpyeehelpyee

Better exposure to banks. Banks should do well this winter. Berkshire is heavily weighted in XLF and will make for stable gains over ther year.

VoteNixon2024

XLF will fly tomorrow 🤩

Laznobieya

Hoping my XLF puts print.

Steven-Flatcock

Yeah don’t worry about it lol. Expense ratios are confusing. I have looked at some of the categories in the past, I was considering XLF or XLV but for now I will stick to VOO

dball220

Call options in ITB XLF XLE XLI thank me later 💣 💣

thebullandthebear24

XLF hits ATHs tomorrow. Watch

Zfein1989

Deep in XLF puts as well. God speed.

cryptohorn

Have XLF puts. I can see it kang around just to fuck me in the ass.

bika8910

not eager to see my XLF calls value evaporate tomorrow !

Shutup_Stupid_Commie

Bullish on XLF? why?