VDC

yatruthordare

the only thing up for me is my VDC etf oof

Parentamorphosis

I found my portfolio was getting a little tech heavy and started adding some VDC in. Most big companies are investing in AI in some way, but I wanted consumer staples. It had exactly what I pictured for some non-AI ones. I know you were asking about individual stocks, but I just thought I’d share. If nothing else you can take a look at their list and maybe get some ideas.

Vindaloo6363

VDC is 25.4. Crazy Microsoft is less than that.

schmiddc

My "value" plays like VDC, VPU and brk-b are all up today.. It's days like today that frighten people back into a realization that owning stocks that make things as mundane as food, or electricity isn't the worst thing in the world.

Own_Power5784

$CGEH is a super under the radar AI data center power play. They make microturbines that can run on several types of fuel, require little maintenance (due to patented air-bearing tech), fast time to power, and convert waste heat to cooling via absorption chillers (massive for data centers). They have also already developed 800VDC power systems for data center applications, aligning with NVIDIA’s next generation 800V data center infrastructure. Potential catalysts include landing data center contracts and uplisting to an exchange (which they are contractually obligated to seek within 12 months).

WorldlyBar4375

small cap 800VDC [https://www.maaseai.com/en/news/maas-subsidiary-huazhi-future-establishes-green-energy-infrastructure-research-team-designates-800vdc-as-a-core-technology-focus](https://www.maaseai.com/en/news/maas-subsidiary-huazhi-future-establishes-green-energy-infrastructure-research-team-designates-800vdc-as-a-core-technology-focus)

doomfistmain999

Is [800VDC](https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/energy/articles/maas-subsidiary-huazhi-future-establishes-130000457.html) equivalent to powerful AI infrastructure?

doomfistmain999

$MAAS to $20 [800VDC for AI](https://ir.maaseai.com/news-releases/news-release-details/maas-subsidiary-huazhi-future-establishes-green-energy)

UrbanPugEsq

I’m slowly rotating out taking profits on things that have done really well and rotating into things like you mention, like SCHD and VDC. I don’t trust myself to have discipline to actually follow the stop losses on the downturn.

RepairSubstantial735

VDC is gonna rise a lot more and a lot faster

RepairSubstantial735

I'm adding VDC to my portfolio this week

therealjerseytom

You could always invest in something like consumer staples - the companies making paper towels, ketchup, stuff like that. One ETF for consumer staples is "VDC." Of course you won't make much money that way, but that's your choice. More broadly, I'd recommend not making financial decisions based on your emotional response to the frame rate of your favorite computer games.

karolisrusenas

yeah I think I am thinking a bit more about semianalysis post, it doesn't align with what we are seeing from multiple other sources. Regarding 800VDC nvidia also pushed back on it, saying that the ramp up is happening.

KillerWhale1999

Hello chums. CLFD is the best opp I have ever seen. Good luck clashing 800 VDC losers.

jimmy-smallz

Thanks again. Section about reactive power is at the bottom of here: [https://irrationalanalysis.substack.com/p/high-voltage-low-competence](https://irrationalanalysis.substack.com/p/high-voltage-low-competence) To answer why WOLF: other SiC and GaN companies are much more expensive. If the market realizes that 800VDC/SSTs are going to need SiC content/power semis then the highest upside is the highest leverage company. All of your other points are valid risks re:AI duration trade and capital structure

Fausterion18

It's bullshit and misunderstands several key elements: >Data centres are terrible customers because they fuck everyone else's shit up with variable demands because GPUs can turn on and off in milliseconds. So, grids are like "hell nah, go get your own electricity" and leave our grid alone. This is nonsense. 1. Hyperscalers have tens of thousands of GPUs, which average out loads across the entire facility. 2. Modern data centers are required to have onsite batteries and limit ramp rates. 3. The actual reason utilities are wary of data centers is simply the load itself. The infrastructure ranging from generation to the overhead lines are simply unable to keep up with the massive new load put on them. >There are a couple of ways to solve this problem (one is by using 800VDC, and one is by using SSTs) Why 800V, you ask? Because big daddy Jensen, in his infinite wisdom, knows there is an entire industry that overbuilt capacity to manufacture specific electrical components for EVs and the demand never came. Now those components are ripe for the buying. You have probably seen power semis start to run. 800v DC architecture is **only inside the data center itself**. This is internal power distribution and has nothing to do with the grid or transformers. >A couple of months ago, Wolfspeed announced the market's first commercially available 10kV MOSFET.  They can announce whatever they want, doesn't mean the notoriously conservative utilities will adopt it. Iron-core transformers are very cheap and there is basically no market for solid state transformers. Utilities don't care to upgrade their transformers for the sake of data centers when the issue is the load itself, not fluctuations in the load.

Sir_Fragles

Your thesis on Capstone Energy+ is certainly thought-provoking. There’s a real “show me” story here, with a genuine technology angle and a potential catalyst in that $112.5M investment and the mandated uplisting push. Let’s unpack it across a few dimensions. 1. The AI/Data Center Angle – Big Potential, Zero Proof Yet The 800 VDC microturbine designed specifically for AI data centers is intriguing. Data centers crave clean, high-reliability power that’s scalable and compatible with DC architecture. Microturbines can offer on-site, fuel-flexible generation that bypasses grid interconnection delays—this is a genuine need. But: · No contract yet is the critical gap. The leap from “developed for” to “deployed at scale by a hyperscaler or colo provider” is enormous and typically takes years of piloting, safety certifications, and operational proving. · They’re competing against well-funded fuel cell players (Bloom Energy) and established large-scale gas gen-set providers who are also adapting their DC offerings. The microturbine’s lower power density per unit could require many turbines to serve a campus, raising complexity. 2. Technology Moat – Real, but Niche The air bearing system is legit technology—no lubricants, low maintenance, high reliability. It’s a distinctive feature that was always a core Capstone strength. The fuel flexibility (flare gas, biogas, hydrogen blends) also positions them well for off-grid applications and industrial waste-gas use. However, “quieter than competitors” matters more for on-site distributed generation than for remote oil and gas. In data centers, noise is manageable, but maintenance savings are the stronger argument. The question is whether these technical benefits translate into a lower total cost of ownership that beats reciprocating engines or fuel cells at scale. 3. The $112.5M Investment & Uplisting Catalyst – Double-Edged Sword · The cash injection is a lifeline and growth capital. But who provided it? Strategic, institutional, or distressed-debt investor? The terms matter enormously—potential for heavy dilution, preferred shares, warrants, or board control. The “must seek uplisting within 12 months” clause suggests the investor wants a liquidity event, which could align with retail holders or could mean they’ll force a reverse split or dilutive raise to meet exchange price thresholds. · Uplisting from OTC to a major exchange (NYSE/Nasdaq) would improve visibility, liquidity, and institutional accessibility, which is often a re-rating catalyst. But the process isn’t just share price and market cap; they need corporate governance, audit committee standards, and a clean financial record post-bankruptcy. 2023 Chapter 11 emergence is recent, and exchanges will scrutinize that heavily. Approval is no gimme. 4. Post-Bankruptcy Momentum – Story Stock Territory The share price climb since early 2025 reflects renewed optimism, but post-reorg equities can be exceptionally volatile. The $414M market cap on a company that hasn’t yet landed the marquee AI contract and is still restructuring means expectations are already elevated. With OTC thin liquidity, price moves can be exaggerated. Key things to dig into: · What is the current revenue mix? Still heavily reliant on oil and gas (associated gas, flare capture) and microgrids? How recurring is the service/overhaul revenue? · Gross margins and cash burn rate—does $112.5M buy them 2+ years of runway to land data center deals? · What legacy liabilities survived the bankruptcy? What’s the share count now versus pre-2023, and how heavily diluted are old equity holders? 5. Risks That Could Spoil the Thesis · Execution risk: They need to win first reference customers in the data center space. Until then, it’s a concept stock. · Competitive response: Established players could drop prices or adapt their own offerings. · Uplisting failure or damaging terms: If the 12-month clock runs out without a viable uplisting path, what recourse does the investor have? Could it trigger forced asset sales or a change of control? · Hydrogen blends remain future-tense: While fuel flexibility is nice, most current applications will burn natural gas. The “green” narrative depends on renewable natural gas uptake, which is infrastructure-limited. · OTC liquidity: Exiting a position could be costly if sentiment shifts. Bottom line thoughts You’re spotting a potential special situation: a de-risked (post-bankruptcy) clean-sheet balance sheet, unique proprietary tech, a macro trend (AI power demand), and an incoming catalyst (uplisting attempt). The bull case requires near-flawless execution on the data center vertical and a smooth transition to a senior exchange. What would I want to know before forming my own conviction? · Detailed structure of the $112.5M investment (equity vs. convert, any ratchets, governance rights). · Timeline and gating factors for an actual data center pilot—are they in active discussions with any named hyperscalers or engineering firms? · Post-emergence quarterly financials: revenue trajectory, margins, backlog, cash runway without the raise. · Details on management’s credibility: who’s running the data center push, and do they have industry experience? It’s a high-risk/high-reward setup that could re-rate significantly if the first domino (data center contract) falls, but it’s still a “prove it” story. Watch the uplisting details and any insider or strategic investor signaling in coming months.

1-Dollar-Doge-Coins

> Consumer stocks already in a worse recession than COVID Walmart up 6.5% YTD. Costco up 16% YTD. Hilton Worldwide up 18% YTD. Let’s just take an ETF…Vanguard Consumer Staples ETF (VDC) up 8% YTD. Really? Worse than COVID?

blue4ever92

$HYLN Hyliion's KARNO generator natively produces high-voltage direct current (DC) electricity on-site, making it a perfect, highly efficient power solution for NVIDIA’s new 800 VDC AI data center architecture without the need for wasteful power conversions.

quantum_simpleton

Here are some ETFs that are more defensive / capital preservation focused in nature: DGRO, VPU, XLU, VDC, XLP, SPLV, LVHD, SCHD, SPHD, JAAA

Zinc_22

I am might capitalize on my wins. VDC I had invested in November and I want to hold it as I am seeing opportunities for a recession in the near future. EWY was running this week so not sure how long I want to hold it. Can see a continued run for 2026 but not much after AI hype dies down.

garden_speech

I’ve beaten S&P but it’s just because I was lucky enough that I picked VGT 10 years ago lol. I almost picked VDC instead. Nowadays I’ve just switched to VT

GornsNotTinny

Right? I bought defensive yesterday with proceeds from a stock that had been under performing. Bought VDC, GLD, BEP, and threw in a little RCAT. Kept about 1/4 in cash. Didn't close out my position totally, but reduced some old MITTX since the tech exposure is higher than I currently like. I don't know if I'd call this timing the market though; I expect to hold these stocks for at least a year, and probably longer.

sonicboom21

Same I'm about to start going in on VDC

therealjerseytom

> Food stocks were supposed to be defensive [...] Anyone else getting crushed in this sector Consumer staples is a defensive sector, yes. The sector, like as illustrated by the VDC ETF, is up over 6, 12, 60 months. So is it the sector, or your specific stock picks? Given that we're still in a phase of economic growth with sectors like semiconductors having been so hot, it also wouldn't be surprising that people aren't rotating into it.

jason082

It does make sense at this time, IMO. I’m eyeing some VDC and VPU this week to put some cash to work. Not investment advice, of course.

Naive-Suit3916

you joke but VDC

Actual_Load_3914

Those are very small drops, but they could just be the beginning. I am personally much more diversified this year compare the past. Added about 20% bond, 20% international and 10% defensive index such as VDC and VTV.

Vindaloo6363

Consumer Staples ETF VDC PE ratio is 27.56 for comparison. People seem to be bidding up defensive stocks in the last couple month t the point that they are valued the same as tech which is a little mind blowing.

Ready_Piano1222

I would consider VDC as an alternative if you're looking for diversification. I am in tech and I feel like the whole AI circus is way out of control. Consumer staples is the furthest thing from it.

ChairmanMeow1986

Hijacking a bit, but yeah... let's add FOMO to to the conversation too.. but first in an attempt to be helpful XLP or VDC are consumer defensive ETF's I'd probably recommend if they market turns more risk-on again if saving for a down payment on a house. More directly to u/Fun_Set_238 you took up a position in AGV (leveraged exposure) because you we're focused on making money quickly instead of the risk of losing money quickly. You probably thought about buying as it started to take off and than got fed a bunch of the metal reddits in your feed and listened to the inane echo chamber ramblings that some/most become. It's *always* about risk/reward. Next that money you had is gone you got the risk instead of the reward, accept that. The revenge trading is teaching you that. You lost a lot of money don't chase the losses, accept that it happened. You bet on black and it was red. It's done. Yes it really did happen that quickly, get control of yourself. On to your open calls. June 125$ SLV call is just going to bleed value since you bought during extremely high volatility (valued by Vega) and are going to going to start hemorrhaging Time Value (valued by Theta) holding an OTM for long (even if bullish on SLV *it's going to bleed* without rallying beyond All Time Highs). You could hope for a relief rally next week, but be prepared to cope. HYMC 55$ DTE March, is a risky maybe imo. I might hold that one next week, I'm bullish on gold honestly and silver could surprise and is more realistic. I'd be looking for the exit even on that if I were you though. You admitted you messed up and need advice. Here is mine. Good luck, to echo the comments, stop gambling. Might as well be at a casino with this ffs.

Psa271

Staples usually run when people get defensive. A 15% pop in two months is solid, but that pace won’t last forever. VDC isn’t meant to be a rocket.. it’s more of a ballast. If you bought it as a hedge, drip-buying is fine and you don’t really need to time the exit. If tech rips again, staples may lag; if things wobble, they do their job. I’d think more about allocation than trying to nail the top.

FFL_Insights

Congrats on the 15%! That's a huge move for staples. Here's the straight talk: You caught a wave of fear. People ran from tech volatility into "safe" stuff like VDC, pumping the price. That trade has mostly played out. My advice: 1. Stop the weekly buys. You're now chasing, not hedging. 2. Set a simple sell rule. Example: "Sell half if I hit 20% gains." Or sell when your portfolio's allocation to staples gets too fat. Don't wait for a "tech stabilizes" signal—that's guessing. 3. Take some profit. A partial win locks in gains and lets you rebalance. You made a smart defensive play that worked. Don't get greedy and turn it into a long-term mistake. Cash out some chips and redeploy when real fear hits, not when everyone's already hiding in the same bunker. Nice trade.

drazayn99

JEPI, VDC, PFIX and some RSP might do the trick I guess?

sortahere5

I decided early this morning to dump even my international holdings other than KXI and VYMI and kept a last minute buy of VDC yesterday afternoon. Lost a small amount this morning but the long delayed correction might have come. Too much debt, chaos in social and political worlds, bad economic policies and the discovering that AI needs to go back in the oven and BTC is not separated from stocks and the silver and gold dump scares. We in for it now.

mightyblend

I am going to full port into VDC and go back to bed

sortahere5

I rode gold and silver up, managed to keep most of the gold gains but only a little of the silver because it fell so fast and I forgot my stop order. I'm out of both and beat S&P pretty handily (even accounting for the losses) over the last 10months when switched out of majority US originally. I can't believe I forgot the stop orders on Gold and Silver but I'm ahead. Anyway, I'm now majority international. VXUS, VYMI, DFIV, VPL and KXI with a sprinkle of IDNA (my sole US this year so far). The rest of the money 33% is waiting on a buying opportunity in the US market. I wish I had kept VDC as the sole US ETF to hold but oh well. When the US market crashes, I might jump on a little gold again if it drops before then and I can see a US crash coming. I will add a good US dividend ETF and a US broad market ETF. But it has gotta drop a lot more because right now the US market seems way overbought.

Legal-Koala-5590

This is why I invested in VDC last month.

Legal-Koala-5590

If the debasement trade is the only logical move, do you think gold the best way to play it, or is VDC actually better?

Ready_Piano1222

I've moved a portion of my investments to cash, or cash equivalents. My gut feeling is that the AI bandwagon is going to crash badly, and take the rest of the market with it. I'm investing in Healthcare stocks, like ABBV, COR, and also FPHAX since people don't stop getting sick. Also, consumer staples like WMT, CPB, COST (even though their P/E concerns me), and VDC. 

ServerTechie

JEPI might be a good investment choice for him. High yield and low volatility. It won’t help with long term growth, but aggressive investing in his 60s could make you both uncomfortable. There are some low volatility equity ETFs out there that might interest you like SPLV, USMV, VFMV, but all of them still had significant drawdowns in 2020 and 2022 like everything else. Another option might be defensive ETFs, but don’t expect S&P level performance: XLU, VDC, XLV, SPHD. I sympathize, my father never invested in the market either. He had a good run living off his own parents until they died and he inherited a fortune in assets, but given his nature he blew thru millions in only a few short years. Now any bills not covered by social security fall to my sister or me. 😡

therealjerseytom

My thought process and approach combines a couple things you've touched on. I have one taxable brokerage set up as a short-term/defensive portfolio. I initially considered what you're doing with 3-4 years in a money market, but I felt like I didn't need to be quite that conservative. I have *one* year of essential expenses parked in a rolling ladder of treasury bills, and then 3-4x that amount in defensive investments. Those investments include various flavors of municipal bonds, a broad taxable bond index position just for diversity's sake, lower-volatility/dividend-yielding ETFs (HDV, SCHD), and defensive sector equity ETFs (XLU, VDC). My money market position, that those investments drip into, is then just a discretionary pile of cash that I can do whatever with. Maybe go towards my long-term investment account, or cover expenses, home improvement, vacation, etc. The intent is to eek out a bit more return than a money market, and give up some long-term total return in exchange for stability, while being relatively tax efficient (qualified dividends, and tax-exempt bond interest).

EvolvingDior

GSY or VDC depending on whether you want treasuries or equities.

eolithic_frustum

A Consumer Staples ETF like VDC would probably help. In the 9 months after the dotcom bubble peak, consumer staples rose something like 30% 

RoverV

Why would want to? The world is just becoming more and more tech dominant. But to reduce exposure, lean into VDC and/or XLF

FutureCandidate74

That would be my choice. SGOC is a great choice for that as well. But if you're under 50, and still want to be conservative, maybe go into VDC or more SCHD

FutureCandidate74

I agree with this response. Always check the weight of a given stock in ETFs you own. Your real percentage of those individual tech stocks is higher. But that doesn't mean your portfolio is bad or that you should sell those stocks. Maybe direct new money into different areas. More SCHD maybe. Or a Bond ETF if you want to be conservative, maybe a consumer defensive ETF like VDC.

geekfinity

Recent highlights - you can find it on internet Vertiv is Nvidia partner. Low PEG - earning increases the same magnitude as Growth Raised its full-year 2025 outlook multiple times this year, citing surging AI data center orders, with third-quarter sales and backlog hitting records Accelerated deployments with OCP-compliant power and cooling ecosystems, unveiled at industry summits, to handle gigawatt-scale AI demands. Vertiv's push into 800 VDC power architectures, set for a 2026 rollout, aligns with Nvidia's platforms, further cementing its first-mover status in next-gen AI infrastructure. Financially, it's a standout: analysts see it as a "no-brainer AI gold rush buy" with robust upside from hyperscaler commitments exceeding $300 billion in capex.

Own-Character395

REITs: VNQ, USRT, XLRE, et, Staples: VDC, FSTA or XLP

Brilliant_Guidance65

Navitas Supports 800 VDC Power Architecture for NVIDIA’s Next-Generation AI Factory Computing Platforms

Ill_Moose5282

I put a bit in MO BKRB, and VDC as hedge, it is somewhat negatively correlated. I plan to rebalance after bubble pop

CanYouPleaseChill

The euphoria is palpable. ARKK is up 61%. Quantum shitcos are up over 100% YTD. Meanwhile, the consumer staples ETF VDC is up just 0.5% YTD. Oh, and the S&P 500 has a P/E of 31 and a Shiller P/E of 40! We're in a massive bubble by any metric.

madhattr999

* 28.96% XEF.TO, iSh Core MSCI EAFE IMI Idx ETF * 23.46% XIC.TO, iShrs Core S&P/TSX CC Idx ETF * 11.82% HXT.TO, GlobalX S&P/TSX 60 Idx Crp * 9.75% ZEM.TO, BMO MSCI Emerging Mkts Idx ETF * 9.10% VDC, Vanguard Cnsmr Stp;ETF * 7.49% BRK.B, BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY INC. * 5.12% ZAG.TO, BMO Aggregate Bond Index ETF * 4.04% IAUM, iShares Gold Trust Micro Any suggestions for further diversification? I would like to reduce my Canadian exposure a bit since when the US markets finally crash, it will take Canadian markets down with it. I'm about 40% Canadian, 30% Developed Non-NA, 16% American (Defensive), 10% Emerging Markets, 4% Gold, currently.

dvdmovie1

They're very expensively valued and money probably moving to growth/tech and away from staples (Staples etf VDC -1.3%) after the ORCL number.

therealjerseytom

Sure! Overall it's a 30/70 split between equities and fixed income. My base defensive layer is the emergency fund, which I split up in rolling treasury bills with one maturing every week. Alternatively you could do SGOV, which yields a little less, but the T-bills are so easy I figure why not squeeze the most out of them. Substantial amount of municipal bonds via a national, low-expense ratio ETF, MUB. I also have in-state municipals in MSNCX, even though the expense ratio is brutal, and some individual in-state bonds laddered over the next few years. I'd be all in on individual bonds if not for the fact they're not call protected. FXNAX rounds things out with some other bond sectors. I do have a position of ANGL in this account, which I think I'll move to my higher-risk portfolio. For equities I have a substantial chunk in defensive sectors that tend to outperform the broader market during recessions - consumer staples (VDC) and utilities (XLU). The utilities position I think may have some additional upside if electric demand increases in the future by means of data centers, electric vehicles, etc. Then I also have some dividend-oriented (and sub-1.0 beta) positions of HDV and SCHD. The goal of that equity blend is to lean heavily into defensive sectors and avoid economically sensitive sectors like tech and consumer cyclicals.

OhioTag

Putting $500,000 USD into any boring ETF will dramatically make your life much easier. You could put it into SCHD or JEPQ and enjoy dividend income and taxes. You could put it into VOO or VDC. It isn't "never work again" money, but it is "make life dramatically easier" money.

Usual-Importance-893

Staples like VDC are safer, but you’re really just choosing which overvaluation feels less dangerous. Some people prefer sitting on cash or short-duration treasuries until valuations reset, even if it means losing a bit to inflation.

sortahere5

My 401k 35% GLD.  Will sell after inflation actually looks likes its being dealt with 23% SLV, same as gld. 11% VXUS 23% VYMI 8% money market. If I go back into US, it will be VDC to start. S&P is to heavily dependent on a few stocks right now.  And i think small and mid sized are going to get crushed so I think a total market index is not a great prospect. Looking at some more targeted international  etfs for the future.  All told, I'm up about 17.5% for the year.  Most importantly, I am not worried about the my investments.  In not convinced we will see a big drop, but I expect a long period of stagnation at least in US equities because using your brain is at all time lows.

therealjerseytom

> so I want to rebalance my portfolio to protect against this possibility, in the short term. Here's the critical question: Is there a high likelihood you will need this money in the short term? Can you even *access* this money short term? Like if it's in an IRA and you're years away from 59.5, not so much. In any event let's assume that this is in fact an account with short-term goals. Certain sectors are less economically sensitive than others. Utilities (XLU) and consumer staples (VDC) are examples; still gotta buy paper towels and pay the electric bill, even in a recession. Dividend stocks can be lower volatility than the market on the whole. SCHD is one. HDV has an even lower beta IIRC. Bonds are certainly a thing, lot of different options there. TIPS would protect against inflation. Long treasuries (TLT) could be a hedge against rates being cut. For my short-term pool account I do roughly 1/3 each of low-volatility/defensive equities, bonds, and cash (money market). But that's just me. For my long-term accounts I just stay invested.

Digital-Doc-777

Look at adding in some dividend stocks such as SCHD, and VYM. Also check out defensive sector areas such as VDC, and VPU.

russt90

US, early 30s. Individual brokerage account aimed at long term horizon (have separate 401k heavy on s&p500). Please rate my ETF portfolio which currently has an even spread of the following. What can I do better? Any other market sectors I should look into? Thanks! XME XAR VIS VDE VDC VB VOO SMH IAUM SIVR

Slow_Half_4668

Constumer staples stocks are kinda stable. There's XLP and VDC etfs

aversionofmyself

VDC will hold. It never moves much and pays around 2.4% div. It ain’t exciting.

ArnoldisKing

is something like VDC good (Vanguard Consumer Staples Index Fund ETF)?

BoltyMcSpeedy

Some of those are great to have already in your portfolio coming into an event like this, as they tend to withstand the storm a bit better. Think consumer goods which are recession proof. Again, not advice, but my portfolio makeup is simple right now: 50% is in VTI. This is essentially the entire US Stock market in one ticker. Over 4000 us stocks. Since EVERYTHING is tanking right now, this is taking a hit, which is fine. I'll keep buying on the way down. It will come back up someday as the market recovers. Essentially set it and forget it, for long term investing. 10% is in VDC, this is the defensive play with over 100 consumer staple holdings like coca cola, proctor & Gamble, Wal Mart etc.. this won't likely drop as fast as the rest of the market for that reason. It's slower and more stable, but not a lot of fun. A good shield  20% is VXUS, this is essentially VTI but on a global scale, excluding the US. This is to balance VTI and diversify further. This gives me a play outside of the US where great companies like TSMC and Sony can be represented. Final 20% is in QQQ, a slightly more aggressive approach with a lot of overlap with VTI but these are focused on tech and communication. Think Nvidia, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft etc. The big hitters that are taking a beating now but will most likely continue to dominate. This ETF holds the top 100 NASDAQ non-financial stocks.  This is what I do, I don't necessarily encourage anyone else to do as I do. But I this kind of approach is diverse, wide ranging and has historically been very successful. I know those 4 total to 100% but that's a bit of a simplification. In reality, these make up 80% of my total portfolio with another 20% going to companies I like, moonshots etc. Crispr is a big part of that 20% and I've not made any money on it hahaha. So take that for what you will 

DigitalUnderstanding

It got spared on Thursday but sunk a little on Friday. But yeah VDC has a beta of 0.60, super low volatility, and similar returns to the S&P500.

Spuckler_Cletus

I’ve been nibbling at VDC and CDC. Not exactly rolling the dice here, but I just gotta buy something besides VOO.

DigitalUnderstanding

Only thing up for me today is VDC -- Vanguard Consumer Staples

deyemeracing

You're investing in an ETF that tracks a market average, and the market average is going down, and... you're disappointed? If anything, you should be happy your position is tracking accurately so that when that index goes back up, your stuff will likely be going right up with it. Also, just because these various indexes are down does not mean everything is going down. Look at PG stock or the VDC Consumer Staples ETF. Don't "VOO and chill" or whatever. Take your time, research a little diversity, and put your money where you'll get ROI over time. TIME.... you just started doing this a couple weeks ago. Don't freak out. You'll just be selling to someone like me that has Limit Buys set for bargains ;-)

deyemeracing

I suppose, but that would be a pretty big risk. In Congress, politicians will whisper to their friends and family for a quid pro quo to buy or sell various things before a story gets leaked, something will go through committee or up for a vote, etc. Sometimes they just blatantly time the market themselves. Nancy Pelosi is one who has quite the crystal ball for investing (cough, cough) and there are plenty of others. Insider Trading knows no party lines. The reality is, there are a lot of big-time stocks that have been inflated in value quite a bit, and are overdue for some common sense correction. Just because the market averages are going down doesn't mean ALL STOCKS are going down. Look at stocks like PG and ETFs like VDC. If you're well-diversified, there's no need to freak out and sell off. You just sell a little of something you're over-invested in, and buy a little of something you're under-invested in with that money. My last VOO purchase was in Dec. @ $555/share. I saw in mid-Feb. that my investment adjustment number was going bigger red for VOO. So, I sold some at $558. I still hold some VOO, and it's at $516 as of this posting. I wasn't intending to "time the market" but I could see I was over-invested in VOO, and now I'm not.

whattheheld

Swap some VOO for VDC. Buy some telecoms. VZ

Cognitive-Neuro

Considering what's happening, is it wise to invest in VDC right now?

HeyYoChill

Average PE on VDC is almost 25. It's a trap. You're not getting it at a discount. Make a chart of SPY vs VDC and plot it as % off high. Staples only buffer your portfolio in the sense that you lose 15% instead of 20% when the market tanks. Staples will have their turn in the barrel.

scheplick

Great point and I will check out VDC

AnInsultToFire

Generally, consumer staples are doing fantastic as a group. Go and look at the chart of VDC, the Vanguard Consumer Staples ETF: it's not dropped at all. There are other sectors that aren't doing bad as well. Really there's rotation out of the Mag7, and it's been brutal drawdowns for them, and they have a huge impact on the SPY and QQQ because of their weighting. But Bespoke has been saying that this just looks like a sector rotation.

Contemplative-ape

could pick safer picks like VDC or SGOV

GlobalAttempt

Rebalance into safer pastures, eg consumer staples ETFs like VDC. Keep the HYSA. When things look less fucked rebalance back into s&p500 etfs.

jarchack

Had VDC before but at the wrong time. It did okay but nothing like VOO, VGT or VUG.

FugPuck

VDC

FluxMoment

I ended up doing something similar … I put it all into VDC until I figure out something out.. What do you think will happen this year?

Impossible_Wear_3213

Why not just go into VDC considering it’s holding a slew of consumer staples I.e (Walmart/costco/coke/pepsi) not discretionary purchases like phones and cars. Not the biggest gains but hey.

OrangeHitch

I believe that we began the rotation out of tech about three weeks ago. I'm looking at healthcare, financials and energy right now but they haven't moved much. When the market was down during COVID, Consumer Discretionary was doing better than Consumer Staples. That may have been because people were stuck inside and splurging on themselves. Certainly when times are bad, people will normally only spend on things they really need. Walmart, Costco and Amazon are looking to benefit. I would play this as XLP, FSTA or VDC. None of those include AMZN and I think that's a fault.

madhattr999

I cashed out VTI and QQQ a couple weeks ago, recognizing Trump was going to bring extreme volatility over and over. I did keep my GOOG and VDC, though, which maybe was a mistake, though ultimately a hedge. I guess it's better to be half-right than wrong.

GlobalAttempt

It's a risky time to be in the markets fully, that's for sure. I think wise moves would include: \- Get out of crypto, no good reason to be exposed to that to begin with. \- Have a portion of your portfolio as cash or cash equivalent in either SGOV or a high yield savings account (should be able to get around 4%). \- Rebalance some of your tech heavy or otherwise S&P500 ETFs into something counter-recession / counter inflation like consumer staples (VDC / XLP etc)

GlobalAttempt

You could rebalance a large portion to a consumer staples ETF like VDC. Its a boring low earner if things stay stable but if inflation spikes, consumer staples do well, and if the market crashes, this will crash less because its composed of stuff that people buy no matter what. Groceries, toilet paper, etc.

Gold_Fee5642

I originally held 50% SCHG + 50% SPMO, but with the market being unstable and the Yield Curve Inversion, I feel like a pullback might be coming soon. I'm considering adding some long-term bond ETFs (like VGLT) and defensive ETFs like VDC, which are less affected by bear markets. My portfolio would roughly adjust to: 50% SCHG + 25% VGLT + 25% VDC. I'm not sure if this is the right approach does anyone have any advice?

PaulblankPF

I like the VDC just to say. It’s a consumer staples etf. It holds mostly stuff like Costco, Walmart, Coca Cola. It’s a pretty safe bet to diversify into.

whattheheld

VDC just to hedge. Not a whole lot of other options

JPete4985

30% VOO, 30% VTI, 15% VXUS, 5% BND, 5% VNQ Hold the other 15% in cash in your brokerage account to be able to make moves when you need to or buy defensive sectors like utilities VPU and consumer staples VDC to hedge against current market volatility. I’ve made a ton of money with that exact portfolio…. A TON OF MONEY! Holding VTI and VOO together they have 87% overlap but as you build more wealth you can buy and sell between the two for tax harvesting purposes. As you build wealth you can get into income equities. I also hold VYM/VIG/SCHD and I split my dividend allocation equally across all three. They all implement different strategies for income and track different indices as their benchmark. In the beginning you’d be fine to go 100% VTI or VOO until you build up at least 20-30k then you can diversify as above.

madhattr999

I don't have cash, but I did happen to have 10% of my portfolio in staples (VDC), which only dropped about 1/2 as much.. Maybe I should move it to QQQ now or tomorrow morning.

madhattr999

Isn't this mostly just avoiding small-cap? You have 6 of the mag7.. You have the 3 biggest stocks in consumer staples.. Not sure about the finance sector, but you have a couple big ones, there. I feel like VTI or even just QQQ+VDC by most of these picks is going to behave the same way, but with more diversity.

MaxwellSmart07

Personally, as a lazy investor I don’t switch around. In the long run unless you can time the recession and the recovery perfectly, staying with growth stocks represented by SPY, among others, will do much better than getting into “recession” equities like VDC or XLP consumer staples. Stay the course!!!

madhattr999

I live pretty frugally and i own my house and car, no dependents. yeah, I want to try and grow what I have so that I can be less careful with my money in later years. My US portion was in VTI and QQQ until very recently, and I moved them to VDC and SGOV.

madhattr999

(I know this is the stock subreddit, not investing but..) I was thinking of going with a consumer staples ETF like VDC (which includes pepsi, coke, walmart, costco, etc). Maybe it has the spirit of what you're suggesting without putting all my eggs in one basket.

madhattr999

I'm wanting to reduce my risk in my US allocation with the change in presidency.. I really like bonds because everything I've read says that the US dollar is going to be less valuable with inflation going up due to a protectionist policy... I was thinking of companies that are going to still be needed despite infliation, and I was thinking Walmart and Costco.. And then I thought to look up Consumer Staples ETFs and found that Walmart and Costco are pretty big percentages of VDC. What are people's thoughts on consumer staples as less volatile equity option? Are there other verticals/areas I should consider for reduced volatility while keeping growth?

Electronic-Buyer-468

You can add risk to a savings account but stay below the risk of VOO. Something like VTV+VDC. (Value + Consumer Defensive). Will still gain plenty over the years, but be less suceptible to tech and financial turmoils. And then you just add to it over time. VOO for me is lower risk than what I normally run, but everyone has different risk tolerances. I also run multiple portfolios at different risk levels. It's enlightening to me when my most active and most risky strategies are often losing to my hands off, Basic Bitch TM, 60/40 portfolio is winning. 

Slight_Awareness_769

Regional Banks KRE and Gold Miners GDX should beat inflation. I also have higher yield mining stocks (BHP, RIO), small cap plays (CALF) and some utilities (D, NEE). Definitely like XLP, but VDC has a larger COST holding and yield currently.

taoschlep

Three fun data points inside the market: 1) Robinhood blew up + 18%. Mostly attributed to belief that crypto will be deregulated or left unregulated, and that will churn more value. Which is interesting because deregulated markets tend to win bigger and lose bigger. Look at mortgage backed securities in 2008. The dems want to regulate for slow steady growth; trump is cool with big swings up and down. More risk. 2) Gold fell 2%. It had been out performing the S&P. Folks moved their assets into stuff they thought would pop. Also all the trumper apocalyticists were like woohoo! This feels like a buy-low opportunity to me, but only in a few more months when some of the trump tariffs and economic impacts of migrant deportation hit. 3) The Bond market fell 1%, which is a huge one-day move for the bond market. The experts explanation was essentially DJT’s projected budget is going to run an $8 trillion deficit. The US will need to borrow, our credit rating will be lowered, the risk of default increases, and the rates for borrowing will go up. In other words: the economy looks very exciting short term, but the long term cost is pretty bad. I plan to hodl for 6 months to a year on my portfolio, and then move into more conservative plays like VDC, GLD, and BND.

rasputin777

Yeah, I like VDC. A basket of relatively low cor. instruments is nice. Over time it rises, almost no matter what, just less than SPY. VDC was a help there, especially during the 2022 downturn.

AdamArcadian

I invest a portion in VDC as well for its lower volatility. Seems to be lower risk/return than sp500 or vtsax, but helps me sleep better at night.