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Save up crypto to be able to dissapear?
Last year, Alex Machinsky stole 0.51 bitcoin from me. 13 months later, I now hold 0.5 again.
Geni Crypto | Rewarding Stakers for keeping commitments and stopping early unstaking ! Launching Bsc & Eth today 9th of October 1:44 PM EST.
The time has come for us to put on our fiat hard hats
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Add my code if you guys get a chance: MNG-PAKISTAN-1OT
OP is working OT to prove that liberalism is a mental illness
I view my BTC as a long-term savings account. My short-term savings account is a high yield savings account with fiat. I've always viewed long-term as anything from 2+ years and beyond. If I need immediate money, or know something is coming up soon this is what I would be looking at- 1) watch my expenses and try to lower costs coming up to bigger expense (ex: no eating out, saying no to the vacation), 2) try to earn some extra money (OT if available, sell some stuff, dog sit), 3) take from my short-term savings account, 4) take from my Roth temporarily. I've never done this but my understanding is that you can take your contribution with no penalty, tax, etc. For example; your Roth totals $18K and $11K is your actual contributions. Might not be a bad strategy if you had been investing in MSTR, IBIT, etc over the past few years. I also have a HELOC. I'd probably take a small loan on my HELOC before I would take the Roth route. Ultimately though- it would take me a lot to touch my sats stack. Everyone has their own numbers. For instance, I can't tell if you're single, kids, no kids, etc. I'm single, no kids and what that ultimately means is that I can likely take risks that others cannot. If I overextend myself, get myself in a pinch- I can get a second gig for awhile because I won't be spending quality time away from a partner, don't need to find a babysitter, etc. I don't like thousands of dollars sitting in a zero or low interest savings account for all the reasons we know. I'd ask what types of unforeseen costs could come up for you, what would they total, etc.? That would help inform how much you should have in a high yield savings account to pull from when needed. Once you have that number, funnel excess into other vehicles like BTC. Also- has anyone done the Roth withdraw/loan thing? Thoughts on it when in a pinch?
Getting a post to go through the filters requires some sort of ritual sacrifice that I still haven't figured out. How spam bots like Kirtash and partymsl manage to do it is beyond me. OT, though, this is a question that should be posted in the CryptocurrencyMeta sub. This will post will probably get removed.
Yes only allowed 7k but at least it’s a good start. Rest just gets bought up in a regular account. I’m just worried I might go over the upper contribution limit this year. Just fell into a gig that only pays overtime hours. 63 hours OT no straight time. Guess it’s not such a bad thing in the larger picture.
https://www.youtube.com/live/mkNcA29vYXA?si=tLcnIBXB34s0A0OT Charles Hoskinson claims that there is no list. Probably no one of these CEOs is invited…
they sucked the entire liquidity that was poised to come in by staging three rug pulls. the grifter is working on grifting every angle he can on the final term, it seems...next comes the tax plan. where's the no tax on OT or tips???
OT: Not sure if you were aware, but this used to be a 4chan meme/euphemism for sucide. On the topic, I love the confidence in Ethereum. Still not exactly enabling a jobless life though.
As someone who runs food booths at the fairgrounds and other public venues like arenas, this is normal. In my area the standard venue take is 23% straight off the top. Additionally, I have to pay their distributors who also get hit with that same mark up (certain items I can procure outside of them). Then I’m paying a lot more OT to staff as we must be open for the entire duration the event is open to the public. Throw in additional equipment, health certs, passes (entry/parking - yes I have to buy passes for my staff), and the desire to still turn a profit = ridiculous prices.
I am in the same boat! I make less per hour than all of my coworkers by about $3 and some like $12 but I am the ONLY person who maxes out the overtime I can work. Everyone else goes home and plays video games or does random unproductive stuff and always shits on me for working too much. I have a set amount in savings for emergency money, and then everything after that goes right into BTC. It's not much but its the best that I can do ATM. I work 66 hours a week and have been doing that for almost 2 months now (since I got the green light on OT). Im just going to work as MUCH AS I POSSIBLY CAN and stack BTC. Its discouraging knowing I will never be able to own a whole BTC, but ill own more than the average person! Best of luck OP.
It's called learn how to utilize the cycle. Stop buying high. Zoom out the chart and study it. If you work some OT for a bit, buy at the lows of this coming bear market late 2026 (aim for 1/4 to 1/2 btc or more), you'll easily become a millionaire still when reserves are in full swing years from now. Investing requires planning. If you don't enjoy it, you won't be good at it. We're in a big trap as long as the news remains bearish. But the cycle ain't over yet. Not with "strategic reserve" in the back of everyone's minds.
If you think crypto will go back up then it's OT to buy.
You will never say “man I wish I worked more OT”. Lol
You'd be surprised.. my buddy who works in OT for a fortune 500 company lost most of his crypto to a scam.
Although I agree with you for most other cases, this is not the case with TRAC and the OriginTrail protocol. TRAC is critical to the functioning of the OT Decentralized Knowledge Graph the tokenomics mean it is automatically market bought off the open market when anyone uses the DKG, with the added benefit that it is done so without companies having to ever have TRAC on their books. More info here: https://deepdive.othub.io/
Politicians in the pocket of the wealthy elite class are working OT to extract as much wealth from society as possible before the entire thing explodes and regardless of who is president, what conflicts are taking place across the world, the train is on the tracks. We are all completely fucked.
My friends do not feel bad but do not be defeated either. The lesson was not to tuck tail and run but to learn better strategies and to practice before you get overconfident. There are people out there that are extrodinarily successful, I am 52 and have lost over a half mill on 3 different occasions for various reasons. What I know is I have the skills and knowledge to re-aquire it, and it will not take long to do it. The traditional ways of making money take a lifetime to make just enough to support you when you are too old to work. Do not be afraid to take some chances. You are going to lose sometimes. Loss is just discovering one more way you should not have done it. Now that you have that info, you are one more step to doing it right. Trading is about what you don't do as opposed to what you do. Create a list of rules of things you do not do and have the discipline to follow them. It sounds like you need some practice forecasting, one way I got better doing strictly technical trading is minute trading. Now I do not recommend you become addicted to this medium but if you store at it long enough you will gain some insight into how technicals work real time. Be warned minute trading is addictive and there is some shady shit these programs engage in. Real trading with them is different than demo trading as demo mode your trade does not affect the market. Second they are in OT markets meaning it's a type of dark pool trading that is not tied to real markets and therefore has great potential for scaling and market manipulations aka trade snatching. They do not show the volume or number of people trading in that dark pool so be aware even if you are trading something as big as Microsoft a dollar trade may change the direction of the market and you lose the bid. If you do decide to trade in it the rewards can be high but trade when there is substantial volume, check that by doing dollar trades and see how they affect the market. Also remember that the market is just people making decisions with the same info you have, or it is bots from large firms. Look for repeating patterns that the bots manipulate the market to create and ride with them. AGAIN BE CAREFUL HERE, YOUR USING IT TO LEARN TECHNIAL MOVEMENTS!!! The app is called PO Trade broker. If you have questions hit me up.
That would be great. But how many minimum wage increases have republicans voted against over the last 20 years? All of them. You think that’s gonna magically change under Trump? They just killed OT pay for huge swaths of workers. Deregulation is the Republican calling card in favor of business growth and profit over workers rights. You actually think there’s gonna be fierce competition to replace picking food and farming jobs? Farmers voted themselves into a ditch here. Y’all have argued that increased wages leads to increased prices and is a central feature of increased consumer indexing for decades. Your main complaint about the economy is the price of goods. Yet your main economic policy is remove lower paying wage jobs for higher paying wage jobs held by Americans and that’s magically going to take the price of goods down? Please explain me how that works.
Invest in some OT or 2nd job...those are your only guarantees.
you know if that happens there will be no guard rails against hyper inflation we can’t all be rich if we all have to share a limited resource between 7 or 8 billion people you will have poverty no way to stimulate or cool monetary policy it will be destabilizing to say the least. And transacting with it is a nightmare when you add “gas” there’s no telling how much it will be at any given time. Also sometimes swaps vanish completely. It’s only real value is to allow bad guys to wash money sell kids to pervs and high jack critical infrastructure for black mail. Trump said he will start accumulating a reserve maybe he will but I doubt it will be significant just enough to fill a promise that bought some votes he also said no income tax for OT I work 60-70 hours a week so please sir don’t let me down but politicians are salesman he got my vote on trust pitch yours on the crypto and I’m starting to think he is in it for Trumps power. And I only say that because he is bypassing any and all checks and balances I feel duped as soon as I heard him say he doesn’t ever pay overtime to his workers he’ll just get new workers. Then I thought it was odd he bought Burger King and McDonald’s for the college football champs so I did a little digging last week turns out any time a president hosts a meal it comes out of their own pocket and it clicked why would a ultra wealthy man be so cheap why doesn’t he take advantage of an opportunity to give a young football player a taste of something he may never see in his lifetime because he doesn’t want other people to feel good he wants other people to make him feel good. I’m sure I’ll get boos from everyone but we are in this together like it or not and I’m afraid I’m on the wrong side of history with my vote
TRAC Origintrail for sure. One of the best, if not the best when considering real world adoption and upcoming future implications. OT is already generating real revenue paid by real businesses outside crypto. OT's decentralised knowledge graph is a powerhouse not to be ignored. :)
Until it dumps again: sorry boss, yeah no worries I can do some more OT
Well, I think thats about to change sooner or later when we see fundamental plays like OT being used world wide in different scenarios and by huge entities like the BSI with its new digital link bar code (going fully live in 2027). Anyways. OT is crushing it with real world adoption and is currently responsible for half of Polkadots transactions.. And this is BEFORE the full implementation of V8 scaling upgrade which is going to blast those transactions through the roof. Im really comfy just chilling and waiting for the cream to rise on top.
10% every paycheck and 50% of all OT goes into the coin. If sleep much better at night knowing there is a plan for me regardless of major market moves.
I love BTC. It remains my best financial/ investment decision to date. I’ve been here since 2013. I have amassed a retirement portfolio at age 40 that rivals anything my friends got from their parents or anything my friends that grind OT hours at their union jobs will ever earn on nights and weekends. BTC will be how I retire early, I hope. I voted by mail in early October, blue down the ticket. Some things are more important than money or BTC.
My biggest concern is how I'm going to get more cash to buy more Bitcoin. Working 20 hours of OT a week and being frugal as fuck isn't enough.
About three years ago I was really beginning to be frustrated at work. I am 53 years old, I don’t have a college education and I have a family I’m responsible for, my job is incredibly physical, so much so I doubt most 20 year olds would be able to handle it. I have a herniated disc, a torn rotator cuff and I lift heavy freight 10-12 hours a day. My job pays well and with the OT I’m able to take care of the needs of my family. But with my age I really began to struggle, my body couldn’t endure this physicality much longer. I was worried to the point that I didn’t know what to do. I remember pouring my soul out to God for help praying for some sort of relief daily for about 2 weeks, I was doing this after my shift while driving home from working knowing that I couldn’t quit and was willing to do anything. Soon after I was just listening to a random podcast, I can’t remember which one or even who the host was but he was interviewing someone with a story similar to mine and he was talking about bitcoin. I was overcome with optimism and hope, I firmly believed God was answering my prayers. I decided to go all in knowing that if I couldn’t trust God then I was doomed. I stopped putting anything into my 401K and bought Bitcoin, I started donating plasma to buy Bitcoin, I took out as many personal loans as I could and bought bitcoin, I worked even more OT at work and bought bitcoin. I did this through all the volatility, concerned by it but didn’t care, I truly felt that God was leading me by the hand. I began to tell others about my new excitement but all I got in return was mocking, ridicule and was told how foolish I was. Luckily my wife believed in me even though she wasn’t interested in Bitcoin she was willing to let me go all in. I can honestly say I purchased bitcoin every day for over three years. I even used my bitcoin as leverage and bought more bitcoin. I stopped telling anyone about bitcoin because of the backlash I received and kept it all under wraps other than my immediate family. I am so hopeful now for the future, I sleep a lot better, my marriage is better. I’m not rich by any means but my prosperity is beyond anything I could dream of. I have retirement plans and look forward to being able to help my children and their families going forward. My new zest for life is incredible. I thank God every day for answering my humble prayers and leading me to something better.
Slightly OT, but in the US do you have to pay-off student loans? In the UK you basically just get a deduction from your salary based on your debt / income and if you don’t pay it off after 30yrs it’s written off.
[RCP](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-bYSC6OT6s) > ICP
That's when I call my boss asking for OT lmao
Yes, we will almost assuredly see prices to start to rise dramatically in late September/October so I’m buying as much as I can and working OT as well right now
my own company is desperately trying to hire fiber installers and plant construction workers and is having a hard time doing so. all full time jobs with OT. guess it depends where you live.
We do exist I'm not disclosing what I have online but I can tell you I'm trying and have a good chance. Wish I would have learned what Bitcoin truly is earlier. Been in since January and I work as much OT as possible and I'm buying as much as possible. I'll be DCAing the next few years. Fortunately I have a good job though and it makes it possible. I think the last thing on people's minds right now that are less fortunate is Bitcoin and I don't blame them because this inflation has been ridiculous. Most people are struggling to keep food on the table. My wife is supporting it also which makes it easier.
Comment 2/2 FUNDAMENTAL ANALYSIS: What's important to understand straight away regarding Tracelabs (parent company to subsidiary, Origintrail), is this was initially a food traceability project created while the founders were in university. It was developed as a kind of anti-trust/reassurance product that evolved into a supply chain management tool to provide consumers, and other companies, an ability to verify the origin, quality, compliance and procedural standards of a supply chain. Origintrail has evolved significantly since. Regarding revenue, their main product/service isn't actually AI - it's data, and the diverse revenue offerings that comes with it - data streams, data aggregation and processing, supply chain and logistics efficiencies, real time asset monitoring, real time asset verification/modification, consumer reassurance tools, industry standards & compliance solutions, financial models, data silo efficiencies, decentralized data marketplace (own/buy/sell datasets)... ...Basically, value from/monetization of data by any means possible. It also generates revenue from the publishing of assets on the DKG, but I'll elaborate further down below. Monetization within OT's eco system takes the form of "TRAC" token. TRAC is the economic currency token and is also, categorically, a utility token - meaning OT's entire ecosystem is dependant upon its versatile functionality, catering to payment/node incentives/network dispute mechanism/staking/governance (voting)/QA incentive and more). There is a second affiliated currency known as neuro (also developed by Tracelabs). This token however, is for AI functionality within the DKG. I'll elaborate: It's important to know, the DKG itself is inherently not an AI/LLM. The AI component comes from Neuro. Neuro itself is also not an LLM. Instead, Neuro is an AI component within OT's ecosystem that leverages various AI, ML and NLP models/techniques to provide advanced data processing, analysis and prediction, sentiment and anomaly detection, data classifications and natural language functionalities. Neuro is also capable of integrating any LLM (via APIs) only to enhance the functionality of the DKG and functionalities. The AI component utilises a method called dRAG, very similar to Meta's RAG in their AI model. The DKG itself is essentially just an advanced p2p graph database anchored to the blockchain, utilising distributed storage (each node on the network holds a portion of the data, contributing to a collective decentralized storage system). Data is secured via zero knowledge encryption, and can be further secured depending on preferred privacy settings and can even run/store data native on individual devices, nodes installed/running on. Companies/individuals either run their own nodes for full control over data security (securing sensitive/private information from the readily accessible), or can operate on publically available nodes, hosted by node runners. Data is uploaded to nodes as knowledge assets, owned by the key addresses used to upload data. Tracelabs/Origintrail offer a variety of services and SaaS solutions privately to prospective clients, to maximise their data intake/out-take/retention etc. An example of OT systems functioning is Perutnina Ptuj, a leading poultry manufacturer in Southeastern Europe. PP installed Kakaxi IoT devices to gather sensor information and images from one of their farms. Datasets included: Sensor Data, Geo Data, Traceability Data, Certificate Data, Production Data, Master Data, Transportation Data, Raw Data and more. By purchasing this data, retailers that sold Perutnina’s products under their private labels coulf reassure their consumers, stakeholders and authorities of compliance, high animal welfare standards and internally utilise the supply chain data to improve their own economical models. Users upload data, manually or autonomously, using the knowledge base for a small TRAC fee per knowledge assets published, use it to train their AI models, internal management, SOP's, sell it to consumers and the utilisation of semantic web 3 creates value from previously siloed data. Knowledge asset owners set rules pertaining to the asset, or grouping of assets (known as paranets). Rules including asset discoverability, permissions, licencing terms such as ownership, licencing/usage costs, node/validator reward payouts, usage restrictions etc. Essentially, the knowledge base has now replaced the previous data marketplaces that users bought and sold data on. Why blockchain? OT simply utilises blockchain as an immutable ledger for trustless data integrity, standardized encryption, scalability, interoperability between RWA's, web2 and web3, decentralized data marketplace and global node network (secure permissionless network, data discovery, asset connectivity/verifiability) etc, but again, primarily value is derived from countering anti-trust issues through a transparent and accessible blockchain (ledger) and mitigating data/information silos. Also, to answer an earlier concern, I believe there is feasibility also in decentralization. IMO, it eliminates the need for central/regulatory authorities that would otherwise present themselves as intermediaries or data aggregators - particularly within public sectors (health/infrastructure/education etc), minimising possible overheads and downtime. Tracelabs is able to offer custom services via private servers, but primary value proposition to clients is value from data integrity via blockchain (consumer, regulatory and public trust through blockchain transparency and immutability), value from semantic web3 capability efficiencies (SOP efficiencies), value from compliance/QA/risk mitigation efficiencies (SOP efficiencies), monetization of datasets and account settlement expedition. Closing thoughts as an investor: Personally, I see RWA use case clear as day with this one. I would like network to be more secure than what it currently is, but that also comes with adoption. Stellar base of partnerships and clients, and for years have had a functional, revenue generating product put to market. From a R:R perspective, what also makes this project speculatively valuable as an investment is you have two mutually exclusive markets within tech going parabolic at the same time, while market is trying to find confluence between them - a bull (AI) cycle within a bull (AI). The main factor driving the bubble is simply companies and investors trying to find confluence. If market adoption takes place and market finds it feasible, this will be immensely valuable. It is currently WELL underpriced, mostly due to lack of visibility. They rarely spend on any marketing, no DEX/CEX paid listings, no BS games or gimmicks in the telegrams or socials, just work.
Hey mate, Read over a lot of your replies and wanted to reply with my own take from a fundamental perspective. Completely inviting feedback here also, especially from a technical perspective - this is where I fall short when considering overall valuations/targets for the project. Full disclosure: My involvement with OT (subsidiary behind this "DKG") is only as an early investor. Still holding a significant position. At some point or another, Ive shared and raised a lot of your points and, to some extent, still have some concerns about some of those points from a investing R:R pov. What's their market differentiator? why does it need blockchain vs private/public servers? Decentralization feasibility? Barriers of entry? All fair concerns imo. I'll do my best to address them directly, not anecdotally or like a marketer. The issue faced when fronting crypto communities is they're decent honest people but normally always lack experience (market/technical/financial experience), and are naive in their expectations, allowing themselves at times to get caught up in the current AI marketing churn, thus not presenting the entire value proposition. I'll provide fundamentals as best I can believe, and attempt to tackle technical mentions you made. All whitepapers can be found on origintrails and Tracelabs websites, but they're a hard read. strange mix of marketing fluff and dense functionality intertwined. Anywho...
Hold BTC through the top of this cycle. Sell 50k of it to pay off most of your debt. Work OT and grind to pay off the remaining 10k. You still have over .5 BTC.
I was thinking the same thing earlier today. I remember watching a video where a guy jokingly said Bitcoin tested 10k for the hundredth time. I was stacking like a madman. Working tons of OT and putting every time into Bitcoin. My coworkers were calling me crazy.
Ok.. Let's continue "What does it even mean to own information?" You own the knowledge asset that contains the information. For example in ID theory's case, they own their paranet dedicated to decentralized science and can monetize the use of it through ChatDKG; You can chat directly with the ID theory paranet to query throusands of scientific articles and even make discoveries through knowledge graphs ability to make connections through ontologies. Hallucination is reduced/avoided through the dRAG technique I explained already which "grounds" ai into real tangible knowledge and leaves no room for hallucinations So essentially ownership is claimed through the ownership of knowledge asset NFT's. "The best I can figure at the moment is this is meant to be a publically maintained knowledge graph, like Wikipedia, but meant to be accessed by programs instead of people. I'm not sure that will have the broad appeal that Wikipedia has." I you are partly right. The DKG is in its very early stages of adoption and is not currently used by public or large masses. It definitely has large usecases like in for example consumer product discovery where consumers can chat with the product: https://x.com/origin_trail/status/1778009198183190544 Your Wikipedia reference is kinda there but it still isn't since knowledge graphs are far far more powerful than simple databases and on top of that a decentralized knowledge graph that is open source is, in theory, far far more powerful than any existing private knowledge graph. Here is are great examples of current usecases of the DKG: https://origintrail.io/blog/origintrail-decentralized-knowledge-graph-for-trusted-cross-organization-real-time-data-integration-in-eu-funded-dmaast https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/trace-labs-and-bsi-develop-new-solution-for-cross-border-food-transfers-as-uk-adopts-electronic-trade-documents-bill-301887520.html OT, NeurowebAi and the DKG are in very early stages of adoption and the great question atm is that will the DKG be able to scale to hold billions (or trillions) of knowledge assets to start to leveraging the effects of the Metcalfe's law and become the most powerful knowledge graph in existence.
>> It is so far out in conspiracy theory territory people the tin foil industry wants to hire you as a spokesperson. OT, but i'm gonna have to use that one - love it :) my current phrase regarding this sort of thing is "i bet this persons annual tin foil budget surpasses that for a family of 4"
Working OT just to lose money. Comedy.
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You need to wake up every morning ready to punch the day in the face . You need to be angry at anything that even remotely gets in your way. And you have to consistently have this mindset daily to be successful. I'm getting pumped up just thinking about it lol. And now I'm going to work 4 hours of OT tonight
Burros do CARALHO....ganham quando xegar a 100k esperam que caia e entram outra vez....ou julgam que vai subir até aos 200k tipo foguetão??Burros do CARALHO....hahahaha Agora vai lá ao tradutor OTÁRIO!!!
Ffs... my portfolio is 61% BTC, and I have enough dry powder to make it 74%. Despite having a BA in finance, my instincts are telling me to go deeper and not diversify... and my stupid ass just wants to max an IRA that buys BTC, and a custodial IRA for my kid that does the same (imagine a 60 year ride with BTC, and what that could net someone, wowa). I'm turning my back on everything I've learned... I don't trust anything Biden or the fed says about the economy. The inflation numbers are cooked. All the (many many) contractors I know are slow as shit. Everyone I know is broke as shit. The economy is a house of cards. I'm investing about 42% of my income right now, and am putting in 15 hours of OT each week, and am still chasing down side work... I'm living stupidly cheap. I don't even pay for internet, phone, or netflix. I cut my own fucking hair... I'm just scrambling to grab as much $ as possible before the economy implodes. This is all fear. I operate on fear and stress... its an unhealthy survival psychology, and I'm trying to keep that in check... but I still think I'm being mostly rational. Someone please wake me up. Tell me to diversify, and tell me what will consistently beat 20%.
You read the whitepaper 3.0 describing the vision for the verifiable internet? https://twitter.com/origin_trail/status/1763634175662317785 Here is the decentralized retrieval-augmented generation tech working through the DKG: https://twitter.com/DrevZiga/status/1755625036486988174 Here are the technicals of how to query the DKG and retrieve verified knowledge and essentially apply the decentralized retrieval augmented generation tech for the ai. https://medium.com/origintrail/decentralized-rag-with-origintrail-dkg-and-nvidia-build-ecosystem-62f48d4f3ca4 For further tech questions you can join the official telegram channels. OT is one of the most real world adopted crypro there is, generating real revenue and is used by real world companies world wide. More and more assets are being published to the DKG and thus the network is becoming more valuable as we speak. https://www.othub.io/ And to answer your question as for do I believe all this sounds believable? Fuck yea I do. It's rare to find actual real world usage and adoption of public blockchain/crypto product. The DKG is unique, there is nothing like it and it has the fundamentals to become a world wide hub for verifiable knowledge and the base layer for a trustworthy ai. This is a real play within a sea of shit, scams, ponzis and vaporware.
What I did was quit my job and lower my expenses as much as I could and pursued something I always had a passion for: collectables, antiques, picking, storage units I got a booth at an antique store, I do not have to be there, they staff it I just price stuff and drop it off. An I sell on eBay and use my knowledge to go around finding stuff I can resell for more money. I was buying storage unit auctions but after people learned what I was doing I had tons of consignment stuff coming in. Friends, family, many people have stuff they want to sell but do not know how or more often don’t have time or want the hassle. Carloads of stuff, sell this and give me what you can. Doing right by people brought more business. My grandma died and the family asked me to do her estate sale, it went well and now I have several elderly clients wanting me to do sales or sell their stuff because their kids are not interested. I worked construction for 20 years and it was literally killing me hard manuel labor with no benefits just an hourly wage and shitloads of overtime. The money is “good” working 60+ hour weeks but I was miserable and OT was not optional if they need you Saturday you are working Saturday and they always need you. I had done eBay on the side for a long time but it was a big step out there, scary but fuck it I did it I quit, gave notice left on good terms in case I had to go back and my boss (asshole) company owner taunted me: see you in 3 months when your broke. Used it let that motivate me. It’s been over a year and I’m making it. I cut loose unnecessary spending, changed my lifestyle of eating out constantly because you are literally spending your whole life working and spending more because you don’t want to cook and clean after 12 hours breaking back with 11 hours till your back at it. I spend a ton of time selling but I set my own hours and it doesn’t seem like work because I love it. Living off the fat of the land, being frugal and buying BTC any chance I get because I believe in it. find a semi passive income, cut costs and find angles. Everyone I know is killing themselvez working and it goes to that new truck payment, cigs beer and eating out they are not saving a thing and have no retirement. Fuck that shit I stood it on its head. I am lucky enough to have a mortgage, I got in 2008 during the crisis so I make sure I pay that and everything else is surpoflous I can sit in the dark in the house I own if need be. I never eat out, quit soda and started exercising and I feel great I am in a positivity program towards BTC ZEN ENLIGHTENMENT
Or maybe just because IT IS complicated. The Ethernet founder Dr. Bob Metcalfe (ever heard of the Metcalfes law?) said it himself that the solution OT provides is too complicated for everyone to easily understand. Dr. Metcalfe is an advisor for Origintrail btw.. he also said at the OT x Google meetup that Origintrail is leading the way with the DKG and is building the baselayer for a trustworthy ai.. But in "laymans terms". Ot's decentralized knowledge graph has the foundation to be the decentralized brain of all artificial intelligence. Its the only open source blockchain agnostic solution that offers information verifiability, security and provenance in a decentralized and super organized ai-friendly manner. It's not JUST a database, its a knowledge graph so the data is more structured and valuable through connectivity which makes the data in the DKG far more valuable than it would be in a regular unstructured database. Be curious, read, learn and discover. It's not for everyone because it takes TIME and is HARD. I can only spoonfeed you so much and I have provided enough information here, do what you want with it. Take care 👍
Where do you get the bullshit spam, could you elaborate? A business who likes to provide customers class A verifiable and trusted information from their whole supplychain that can be searched by the consumer through an easy to use ai assisted UI that is connected to a truly open, transparent, interconnected and decentralized worldwide database.. Why would this business f up their reputation by providing bullshit? Isn't that kinda stupid? As for the other Bs in the DKG, the impact of it will dwindle due to lack of it's connecting power. As for other anti bs mechanism I still direct you to OT tlgrm for more knowledgeable answers. There is no other solution providing information/data traceability and provenance backed by an immutable blockchain that for example tackles ai hallucinations in a decentralized open manner. You said it yourself "That I as the user have (--> CAN <--) validate". This solution breaks down the data siloes and soon everyone can start contributing to it and reap rewards for contributing QUALITY information and data to the DKG. Take the deepdive and start reading instead of arguing with me here. After forming your own informed opinion, your free to make up your own mind - dont make it based on my info here. Dyor. The future is for sure going to be interesting. :)
Seems like you got it all figured out. Jensen the NVDIA ceo just spoke that RAG is the solution for ai hallucinations, maybe you should contact him with your solution ;) You are incentivized to provide quality knowledge because the more connections it provides in the DKG the more you will be rewarded. Fake or low quality knowledge will not make as many connections in the DKG and thus doesnt rise to the top. Fyi, KG's work through connecting and organizing data into more useful knowledge clusters. To upload data to the DKG your also paying your NFT KA (not related to JPEG in any way :D) uploads with TRAC token so malicious intents require effort and resources. I think there will be more ways to validate the quality of the knowledge created. Feel free to ask questions in the official OT tlgrm, because im just an investor, not a developer :) "why would on earth would I let randoms provide information that I need to authenticate? What problem am I solving?" Well todays ai is providing false information WITHOUT the ability for information provenance, so your kinda left with the option to just believe what it produces. With the DKG backed by immutable blockchain you are now able to verify the sources of the information and make a decision if you trust that source. "Choose your bias" so to say. There is no solution like that available other than the DKG and as far as I know it is the only way to provide this in a world wide scale for all the ai, businesses, organizations etc. to tap into. So imo it is providing a global scale platform or a "global library" for everyone with information provenance and ai ready capabilities :D The DKG is btw blockchain agnostic, so it can be connected on top of every blockchain there is.. Anyways, I suggest you to dig through the deepdive I provided and ask specific questions in tlgrm where there are people far more knowledgeable than I am. Im still in the learning phase of this tech atm :)
I do have a question, sorry this is a month old comment. But I have recently JUST started messing around with stocks and crypto cause a friend told me to just use what I can and get some experience on it. I have no idea what to look for, and I doubt my meger tiny little investments are going to be a huge "SELL NOW" from you or others as advice, but seeing as how I want to learn and ACTUALLY start investing with some real money, what risks do you guys usually look out for? Where do I get SOLID information from about these things? It's literally just like $10 I invested for XRP, was going to invest maybe like $100-$200 after I get paid this week thanks to OT giving me money I am good with losing, but I don't want to simply throw shit at a wall and hope it sticks cause I don't mind losing that much(or little to others) money. When I looked up XRP it seemed like they were hopeful that after SEC case is over with (potentially this year?) that it'll go as high as $9 per share (I guess per coin? Again I literally JUST started learning this stuff about a day or 2 ago) but now reading this, even throwing $10 at it was a mistake, since I could've used it on chips and soda 💀
The topics will most likely be from the new whitepaper/article the OT released this week, which you can find here: https://origintrail.io/documents/Verifiable_Internet_for_Artificial_Intelligence_whitepaper_v3_pre_publication.pdf. It's technical, but if you're interested in the problems that AI has and how they can be remedied, it's a good read.
Its safe to say the future will not repeat the past. We are in a new paradigm. I am not saying to throw out experience or knowledge, it will still apply. However there are new streams in and out and bigger players at the table than a few crazy OT prophets. I'm 15 years from retirement. I hold a reasonable enough BTC so that if it rockets I will be able to retire. That's all I want. That or I'll leave it to my kids equally and they can buy a house or something in 10 years.
I just got back into crypto like 5 days ago, with a few hundred extra bucks I earned in OT last week. Missed the boat many times. Jumped in while the buzz was building, meme coins and such. The surge had already been on. I got some early gains, then last night decided to sell my meme coins, consolidate into 3 stocks, a safeish coin, a safer coin, and one pure gamble. Gekko caught my eye the first day, and I'd been watching it. Did some research, followed the huch, and it was a slam dunk. Was %20 of my portfolio when I went to sleep last night. It's like the first time I did a March Bracknet and finished in the top .995% Gives me confidence going forward
I work an hourly job with certain extra perks and bonuses and OT. Al the extra money is stored with BTC
I could've, but I was also adding Berkshire B, paying off my credit cards, and still eating good. Did I need a new Levis denim jacket? Not really, but I have a rule where we don't put all of our eggs in one basket. Sent my sister some cash for her birthday, let my best bud borrow 50 for gas to start his new job... If I was obsessed, i coulda just at pb&j since 2021. The worst feeling ever was when I go to .10 BTC, and had to sell some because my shitty ass employer at the time was not paying on time. I had too much in. I was only doin 25 bucks a week, but got a little greedy. Now, I take home triple what I was making back then and still no matter what, I'll add about 1-2k a month. I remember bein so pissed I had to sell, but eventually (NOV 22), I was able to get a bid assigned at 14,750 and was havin orders filled in that channel between there and 18k. I ended up with more BTC than I sold to cover expenses. Overall, just keep on stacking. Some of it will double, triple, quadruple etc, but its like snowball effect, once you get a fair amount, you start to see some pretty heavy movement with respect your gains vs principle. Just keep adding. Results will show themselves... Another thing, continually adding will motivate you to earn more money. If you feel like you want more, you've gotta earn it. If you feel like youre running outta time, maybe get some OT, or ask a raise. You could be on your way to doubling your stack in no time. HODL but dont starve. Miss opportunities outside. Good luck g!
This isn't anything new in our beloved crypto space. Origintrail ($TRAC) is doing exactly what this post is about and alot more. Origintrails decentralized knowledge graph (DKG) is one of the most adopted real world use cases out there at the moment. Start your dyor here 👇 https://deepdive.othub.io/ Outside supplychain and trustworthy product traceability, the DKG solves the ai hallucination problem by feeding ai trusted and verifiable data. Look up: retrieval augmented generation (RAG) for more info about this topic. Basically the DKG could become the de facto trustworthy knowledge baselayer for all AI! https://twitter.com/DrevZiga/status/1755625036486988174 Origintrail and the DKG is one the biggest innovations in this space and we'll be hearing ALOT about OT in the future ;)
Origintrails is still there my friend, doing exactly what this post is about and alot more. Origintrails decentralized knowledge graph (DKG) is one of the most adopted real world use cases out there at the moment. Outside supplychain and trustworthy product traceability, the DKG solves the ai hallucination problem by feeding ai trusted and verifiable data. Look up: retrieval augmented generation (RAG) for more info about this topic. https://twitter.com/DrevZiga/status/1755625036486988174 Origintrail and the DKG is one the biggest innovations in this space and we'll be hearing ALOT about OT in the future ;)
And also as long as they successfully compete against others for limited internship spots, land a prestigious internship and successfully compete against others in landing a scarce number of jobs with the useful degree. Engineering, CS, etc aren't guarantees of return on investment anymore. Nothing is, aside from some health fields, like nursing, PT, OT, etc. But most of those (except nursing), you have to leverage a useful/relevant degree + internships + good GPA + decent GRE + other extracurriculars to compete with others for a limited number of spots at whatever graduate program. The trades are where it's at now.
We're on a crypto sub, discussing crypto in EU, but you can make an OT remark, and I can't? Gotcha
Actually, funny you say this.. Origintrail (TRAC) uses so called "knowledge assets: they are NFT's containing verifyable, traceable and ai ready data/knowledge. These KA's are uploaded to OT's decentralized knowledge graph the "DKG". The DKG 🤝 ai = a match made in heaven. https://deepdive.othub.io/
Lol this feels like a perfect reply and about average level of discussion you can have in r/cc , tbh minutes after making OT I realized my mistake...
Europe might actually be the best option for you (and your family) either way. You can still be a Bitcoiner in Europe or anywhere really, as banning you from doing so is unenforceable. Of course, don't keep them in an exchance, do self custody, buy non-KYC and you're good to go. Are we close to an 1984 scenario? probably not. People were sure that the Cold War would have sparked M.A.D. and built anti-atomic bunkers that ended up being a sunk cost (well, they could still be handy for the future sadly). The only thing that could sink the EU into North Korea 2.0 is the ECB, but because of the nature of EU itself, being formed by vastly different states that rarely agree between one another, I feel like they'll quickly strip away the power they themselves have given to the central bankers. And if EU fractures, there'll be no CBDC either. All we know is that Fiat keeps being debased, debt keeps spiraling out of control, and Bitcoin keeps syphoning value out of everything else, which leads me to believe that even if CBDCs materialize, they are going to be short lived. Going a bit OT, but the AI act is actually good and borderline necessary.
As much as I can realistically afford it, it varies depending on OT. The goal is $2,000/mo, but that can vary from $1,000 - $2,500. I didn't get into a higher paying job, sadly until this past August, so I really missed out on executing larger buys at the $16k range. The cost basis is $31,500, though, so I'm not too upset with that.
Sorry but you keep assuming I’m gonna sell bitcoin for A or B reason. I don’t need to sell, I need to accumulate, hence why I’m willing to take on risk to get there as soon as possible. My side hustle is working 20+ OT hours per pay period. Which nets me over 2K+ of extra income a month. I also have plenty of credit available if needed. My fidelity portfolio is worth multiple bitcoins. My only doubt is that I wouldn’t have as much cash at hand for 6 months. Which is the time I can build it back up. If an emergency came, I would sell stock before I even touch bitcoin. So please stop assuming I’m gonna sell bitcoin 😅
I can build it back up in 6 months, possibly even less. Thankfully I have a good paying job that offers unlimited OT and I can do it all from home. It’s the sole reason why I’ve been able to accumulate so quick the last 2 years or so.
thanks! OT: lack of tail emission is the thing that worries me most about btc. I believe mining will change a lot in the next 20 years.
OT: Satoshi deserve the Nobel price for Economic Sciences and the cash price should be sent to one of is address in btc
I appreciate the clarification. I was familiar with how the rule works, but I didn't really know the distinction between it being an IRS rule vs it being a securities law. And maybe this is OT from the purpose of the thread, but I always assumed that it would be easier to turn a profit as a trader if you didn't have to worry about the wash sale rule. And if crypto is classified as a security, then we do have to worry about that rule. But if it is not a security, then we don't, and we can freely wash trade without fear of tax repercussions. I haven't actually tried out that theory, but I have thought about it.
Der Unterschied is, dass Coinbase KYC macht und damit der Spaß für die Bank leicht aufklärbar ist (auch ohne dich). Wenn du so wie der OT Bisq benutzt muss die Bank halt nachforschen (Geldwäsche Gesetze) und dann wirds kompliziert.
OT but you don't need advice/Dave Ramsey to not spend more money that you can afford. You just need to not be a dumbass. Not being a dumbass is not 'following Dave Ramsey's advice' -- it's simply not being stupid and actually spending a moment to think about what you purchase. (just think you are giving credit where credit is not due as it reads the only people who are not in debt must be listening to that guy)
OT and probably not what you want to hear but i would advise you to fight against what you are about to become because no matter how much you think you will enjoy or even be able to bear this lifestyle in a few decades, it may just become unbearable and possibly too late to do something about it at that time. so fight for you life and do it now, that is much more important than matters of investment.
Interest rates are high,bitcoin is low . We know the boosters are just warming up. I’d wait until bitcoin can pay for a home in full. If your desperate cut loose your loose baggage . Down grade to cheap used cars,cancel Netflix and prime. Pull some OT. Don’t trade the best asset ever made for bank interest. Imo. Keep at it when it’s the right time you’ll know .
I dont think blackrock really advertice their offerings, or offer them to the average joe wanting to buy 100usd worth of btc. You cant withdraw btc from an etf, and blackrock wont buy their coins OT on the spot market. They will buy it with under the table deals from 1 or 2 exhanges and from gov. Auctions. But unless people already hold btc, this etf wont do much. Its not like you can just call blackrock and tell then to sell you some crypto. How many on reddit or in crypto have 10s of millions to buy the ETF. Blackrock is invite only to begin with.
Good reply, thank you. You should analyze the growth trajectory and upside potential. I know its hard since blockchain industry and web3 is in its infancy. In conclusion: The tech behind OT is unique and no one does whta they do. 👇 info related to future growth potential: https://x.com/otnoderunner/status/1732165631343026177?t=0OybxUGCYjHZibiKZTZAcg&s=08
Lambo factory will be working OT.
**In the recent Unchained Crypto upload, Laura Shin talks to Tiffany Fong about SBF and Tiffany's history and her yt channel. Tiffany mentions the DOJ contacted her and wanted her documentation of her visits w/SBF. She hired a lawyer and didn't provide the info to the DOJ. Is this 'leak' the info she didn't provide the DOJ?** **Slightly OT, I've been reading about SBF's parents over the past week. Words do not begin to express their delusion about their 'child's' 'innocence' or their own culpability...**
Next bull bullcycle top performance aside, OT has the tech (DKG/ai) which can be a significant part of the future web3. Few understand this. If you dont, start reading about the decentralized knowledge graph asap!
Check out Origintrail and its decentralized knowledge graph aka. DKG. OT is on a quest to make data/information trustworthy, shareable, verifiable and web3 compatible. Branded as "the google of web3". For more info: https://x.com/otnoderunner/status/1718471282000269474?t=94zGdDTM2MCAeX5bVZHhhQ&s=08
https://x.com/otnoderunner/status/1718471282000269474?t=94zGdDTM2MCAeX5bVZHhhQ&s=08 ☝for starters. After that I suggest to watch OT's youtube video about the metcalfe phase.
Im waiting eagerly how OT's decentralized knowledge graph will catch on in this upcoming web3 space!
What I can afford. If I can manage OT then up to 33% if not... like 15%
Same here I got a 3 yr old so any extra money comes from OT unless I ask my husband but he's got his own thing with bonds and precious metals.Hope we all can look back in a year and relax as people buy coins for 20x the price we paid, as in low cap Alts, can't help myself😃
Very niche but I bought $15 worth of $OT (a token on zksync, an Ethereum L2) which is now worth $3 but I can't be bothered to do anything about it
An Open Transaction (OT) is a very important component of development on CKB. In general UTXO programming, there are roadblocks that arise with certain types of smart contract operations that generally revolve around instances of shared global state. We refer to it as the “state contention problem”, or sometimes the “aggregator problem” in other contexts. Other ecosystems may have different terminology, but the problem is the same. State contention occurs when two independent transactions attempt to update a single piece of global state within a single block, but their efforts are uncoordinated. UTXOs have the ability to be deterministic in their transactions, which is a strong benefit over the account model since you know exactly what the result will be before you broadcast the transaction. The drawback is that only a single transaction can take advantage of this per block. This leads to a lot of complex solutions that are highly unintuitive to developers coming from Ethereum. There are a number of different ways to work around the state contention problem. The issue is that these solutions are often very specific to the exact situation, meaning that it is not possible for developers to copy and paste the solution elsewhere. OTs are the leading Nervos-centric solution to the state contention problem. It works by creating a transaction that expresses user intent rather than the exact result. A common example is a coin swap between two parties. Using the UTXO model without OTs, the swap could only occur safely between two specific parties if they agree in real time, and then both sign a single transaction. This is kind of like me saying I will exchange 2 of coin A for 3 of coin B, but only with Matt, and if he does any trades of coin B with anyone else before me then the deal is off. Deterministic behavior is very beneficial in some situations, but it creates a roadblock in this specific case. OTs allow me to create a transaction that expresses I want to exchange 2 of coin A for 3 of coin B, and I don’t care where it comes from, or who brokers the deal. This is a very powerful concept because fulfillment isn’t restricted to a single developer or smart contract. Developers can utilize this protocol to source liquidity from across different dapps or one day even across different chains. Within the Nervos ecosystem, OTs are both a pattern and a specific implementation. There is nothing stopping a developer from creating a dapp right now using the general OT pattern. The problem with this is that the implementation is not standardized, meaning that if one developer creates an OT a second developer will not be able to utilize it unless they know exactly how the developer programmed it. The challenge being researched right now is the creation of a standard OT implementation that any developer can use for most dapps. Success in creating a general-use OT implementation would potentially enable thousands of developers to create dapps that work with each other without knowing anything about each other. This is an extremely powerful concept with huge implications for the ecosystem. We can build basic dapps today, but unlocking the full potential of the Cell Model requires a number of components including OT. Unlocking this potential is what will elevate Nervos from a simple smart contract platform to a global settlement super highway.
A therapist can refer to an individual working in a number of different professions, occupational therapy being one of them. Within the field of occupational therapy, the role of the occupational therapist is dependent upon the setting in which he/she works (I.e., school-based settings with kids, inpatient rehab, outpatient hand therapy, psychosocial/behavioral health settings, etc). I, for example, am an OT who is also a stroke rehabilitation specialist; assisting survivors of stroke in relearning how to accomplish everyday tasks like dressing, bathing, medication management, work hardening, meal preparation, driving, etc. That’s what occupation means in this context, skills for the “job” of living.
There are others but the support ecosystem for alts drops away, many of the "second tier" ones are BTC/ETH only OT with support for only a couple of chains
Then say what you mean. Employers? Yes, they are licensed and regulated fiat handlers too, as are banks and s&ls, insurance companies etc. In the U.S. these are all fiat institutions. Support them, support fiat. Totally OT on a Bitcoin forum.
Farmers putting in that OT
Great job 👏 So OT what do you recommend for L2 governance/staking? I only tried stargate.finance 2 days ago.
Morning slowpoke! Hopefully 5K farmed EOY, similar sum bought. I can do 2x OT while also farming moons. Each hour OT is equivalent to well over 100 moons bought, really hoping to get there. Once at that level, will provide LP and make more in passive earn than most sub farmers.
Everyone working OT this week
There is still time don't worry! Focus on earning more fiat if you can. Switch jobs, ask for a pay rise, do OT etc if possible and it will pay dividends next bull run Now is the time for us to get our heads down and work our asses off for the fiat to invest
No kidding... I also need to find a way to earn some OT.
Currently in the painful stage of working a lot of OT, hoping against hope that they don’t rebound too hard before payday so as to make the most of the opportunity
Coinbase will be working OT because all of the brokerages offering Bitcoin ETFs have listed coinbase as their storage entity. Have any of the other exchanges been listed as a storage entity? I haven’t seen anything other than coinbase
Because they are the tokens of the exchanges and the exchanges will be working OT once the ETFs go through
Lawyers loving this case probably working OT
The guys at the mint have been asking for OT. They’ll print up fresh dollars anytime the banks ask
Absolutely hold, what’s the point earning them to sell them. If that’s the case I’d do OT in the fiat mine and make far more money