ICON

biba8163

> ATOM is far from dead, just the coin itself didnt move much. *Denial ain't just a river in Egypt, it's a national anthem for bagholders.* I wish I'd bookmarked some threads where people said - IOTA is not dead, the EU digital currency is going to be built on it - Stratis is not dead, the devs have been building through the bear market - NEO is not dead, they have the most developers and projects being built on it after Ethereum *No no no, you're paying too much attention to price and not the fundamentals, look at all the development happening...it's far from a dead project!* Nano, Icon and the Request Network were some of the most shilled projects on /r/cryptocurrency and people refuse to believe something they invested in was just hype and is now dead. NANO is not dead... > Don't confuse short term price action with long-term fundamentals. Nano works, ever better, and that's starting to be recognised https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qc21qm/honest_question_is_nano_dead_what_can_be_done_to/hhd7eug/ ICON is not dead... > You should check out what ICX has done, is doing and will do during these years....Agreed. Not even remotely dead. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qgnsj0/which_cointoken_is_completely_deadnearly_dead/hih8v5b/ REQ is not dead... > They are definitely not dead, they are currently building an escrow system that will ultimately allow for invoice financing for projects in the crypto space....The team has a very practical mentality, focussing on product and adoption. Currently almost a thousand businesses are using Request to process their payments, adoption increasing almost exponentiall https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/qlohgo/i_thought_req_was_dead/

biba8163

Scam shills always try to pump dead/dying shitcoins whatever way they can. - BNB/Binance already had 55 stocks available on their exchange and chain. Solana/FTX already had like 90 stocks available on their exchange and chain. These included APPL, GOOGL, TSLA, MSFT, etc. I think regulators blocked Binance and FTX exit scammed. Now, Hedera "partners with Blackrock" is the first to do this...pump it. There was virtually zero interest or liquidity in this in the first place. - ICON and other shitcoins already had Python available as a programming language for their shitcoin smart contracts. Algorand has been spamming itself as the 1st blockchain to have this so it'll moon.

ramfield

Anyone here own ICON coins? What happened to it?

biba8163

> A learned fool is more of a fool than an ignorant fool. —Molière 4 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency did their research and picked these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/

biba8163

Dogshit hype, parternships, real world usage really does not move the needle - these shitcoins bleed slowly then die. > "major banks will use XRP as a liquidity tool in 2018" and "an order of magnitude dozens of banks" will be using XRP in 2019" Brad Scamminghouse in 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/cnbc-interview-with-brad-garlinghouse-ripple-ceo.html > IBM ipartnering with Stellar to build the World Wire on the Stellar Network for open source financial services network https://www.signifytechnology.com/blog/2018/07/ibm-to-use-str-coin-on-stellar-blockchain > Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/cardano-in-africa-inside-iohks-ethiopia-blockchain-deal/ > IOTA's partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, tracking data and earning while you drive. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > Vechain partnered with countless companies including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China) with supply chain and carbon tracking memes. https://twitter.com/BYDCompany/status/1037605045309591552 > ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ > Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ > Factom partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security for immutable data ledger on multiple blockchains. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k > The South Australian Government conducting official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State) https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/

fatlever2

- on ~~Stratis~~ - on ~~IOTA~~ - on ~~EOS~~ - on ~~ICON~~ - on ~~DragonChain~~ - on ~~Zilliqua~~ - on ~~Holochain~~ Scaling will always be done on a project nobody ever uses

biba8163

> Things are turning around for ALGO. Bagholders are regurgitating the same news (lots of shitcoins have supported development and smart contracts in Python) from last week that is not going to save a dying shitcoin. People fall for hyped shitcoins every cycle - you don't have make money the same way you lost it. - NXT relevant from 2013 to 2017, once #3 or #4 in marketcap, was the first pure Proof of Stake Blockchain which used Java. Dead. - Stratis relevant from 2016 to 2017, once #8 in marketcap, supported C# and had a Python SDK. Dead - NEO relevant from 2017 to 2019, once #5 in marketpcap, supports Java, C#, Python, Javascript. Dead - EOS relevant from 2017 to 2019, once #7 in marketcap supported building apps with C++. Dead - ICON relevant from 2018 to 2019, top #20 marketcap supported building apps with an Python SDK and a Javascript SDK. Dead - ARK another hyped shitcoin from 2017 to 2019. Supported Java and Python. Dead. - Kommodo another hyped shitcoin from 2017 to 2019. Supported Rust and Python. Dead

biba8163

Geniuses from r/cryptocurrency who bought cheap alts 6+ years ago must be rich.... - Buying up all these dirt cheap altcoins.. - My DNT bags are so filled - Any suggestions for alts to pick up? - Ark, OMG, LINK, WTC are all pretty cheap compared to their ath right now. But so are most coins so dyor - Omg, neo, ubiq, vertcoin, komodo, stratis... take your pick https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/75ayv6/this_is_me_watching_people_sell_alts_at_a_loss_to/ ..geniuses from /r/cryptocurrency who picked out these projects as strongest to survive must be rich... > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/ ....geniuses from /r/cryptocurrency are buying cheap alts today. Why aren't you?

biba8163

I've been posting this pasta since 2017/18 warning new people to be careful falling for the tech meme. Amazing technology and active development does not mean success. NXT was launched in 2014, a top 5 project, was the most advanced platform, had a huge community of investors and developer and there is forum with hundreds of thousands of posts in multiple languages here: https://nxtforum.org/ - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake - 1 minutes block times - Java programming lanaguage - DEX (Chainlink's Sergey Nazarov worked on a DEX project there) - Messaging - Assets in the blockchain (Staple top 10 coins like NEM were launched there) - Programmable APIs - Smart Contracts But by the time of 2017 bullrun, NXT fell into irrelevance and even hyped shitcoin platforms like Stratis, NEO, etc easily surpassed it. Today, most new people haven't heard of NXT or aren't even aware how hyped and loved the shitcoin platforms that followed NXT like Stratis, NEO, IOTA, ICON, AION, were. People are falling for the same technology hype or the same meme partnerships. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/10hyjyn/the_case_for_polkadot_amazing_tech_and_usecase/j5ctwqs/

biba8163

I've been posting this pasta since 2017/18, that new people need to be careful falling for the tech meme. Amazing technology and active development does not mean success. NXT was launched in 2014, a top 5 project, was the most advanced platform, had a huge community of investors and developer and there is forum with hundreds of thousands of posts in multiple languages here: https://nxtforum.org/ - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake - 1 minutes block times - Java programming lanaguage - DEX (Chainlink's Sergey Nazarov worked on a DEX project there) - Messaging - Assets in the blockchain (Staple top 10 coins like NEM were launched there) - Programmable APIs - Smart Contracts But by the time of 2017 bullrun, NXT fell into irrelevance and even hyped shitcoin platforms like Stratis, NEO, etc easily surpassed it. Today, most new people haven't heard of NXT or aren't even aware how hyped and loved the shitcoin platforms that followed NXT like Stratis, NEO, IOTA, ICON, AION, were. People are falling for the same technology hype or the same meme partnerships. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bza16u/top_7_unique_highpotential_cryptocurrencies_of/eqt1lh5/ https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/10hyjyn/the_case_for_polkadot_amazing_tech_and_usecase/j5ctwqs/

biba8163

5-7 years ago, when there were 500 Alts, people couldn't pick the winners. Hint, almost all of them have lost money. Now that there are like 5,000 what makes people think they can pick the winners? Altseason is the reason most people in crypto end of losing money. - Buying up all these dirt cheap altcoins.. - My DNT bags are so filled - Any suggestions for alts to pick up? - Ark, OMG, LINK, WTC are all pretty cheap compared to their ath right now. But so are most coins so dyor - Omg, neo, ubiq, vertcoin, komodo, stratis... take your pick https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/75ayv6/this_is_me_watching_people_sell_alts_at_a_loss_to/ 5 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency picked out these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua...

biba8163

r/CC always falls for bullshit partnership, adoption, real use case, patents, etc hype. Every project that has bullshit hype like this is down since 2018, has vastly underperformed Bitcoin or is dead. > "major banks will use XRP as a liquidity tool in 2018" and "an order of magnitude dozens of banks" will be using XRP in 2019" Brad Scamminghouse in 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/cnbc-interview-with-brad-garlinghouse-ripple-ceo.html > IBM ipartnering with Stellar to build the World Wire on the Stellar Network for open source financial services network https://www.signifytechnology.com/blog/2018/07/ibm-to-use-str-coin-on-stellar-blockchain > Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/cardano-in-africa-inside-iohks-ethiopia-blockchain-deal/ > IOTA's partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, tracking data and earning while you drive. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > Vechain partnered with countless companies including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China) with supply chain and carbon tracking memes. https://twitter.com/BYDCompany/status/1037605045309591552 > ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ > Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ > Factom partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security for immutable data ledger on multiple blockchains. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k > The South Australian Government conducting official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State) https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/

TearsOfChildren

I put $5500 in ICX (ICON) and it pains me to see it when I open Delta. I'm down -97% lol. I don't even remember why I put so much into that coin, it was back in 2017.

biba8163

Remember kids, Alts will make you rich. 6+ years ago, /r/cryptocurrency was excited about buying **cheap alts** - Buying up all these dirt cheap altcoins.. - My DNT bags are so filled - Any suggestions for alts to pick up? - Ark, OMG, LINK, WTC are all pretty cheap compared to their ath right now. But so are most coins so dyor - Omg, neo, ubiq, vertcoin, komodo, stratis... take your pick https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/75ayv6/this_is_me_watching_people_sell_alts_at_a_loss_to/ 5 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency picked out these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua...

biba8163

Retired maxipad checking in. Since 2018: - The S&P index, a safe weighted index of stocks, has returned ~70% - BTC from its highs then, has returned ~90% - ETH has returned ~60% - Every other crypto in the top 25 from 6-years ago is down -60% to -98% with shitcoin investors losing most their money. After getting to a high marketcap, it's almost impossible for shitcoins to keep gaining value pulling in new investors. The notion that the market is red, now is the time to buy my shitcoin is a losing proposition. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180107/ The vast majority of crypto investors lose money because almost all of the crypto space is a money grab scam. These shitcoins have no fundamental value proposition and are entirely dependent on BTC price rising and bringing new dumb money to the market. Hold some BTC long term as a diversifier with traditional assets including stocks, bonds and real estate as your main holdings and for god sake avoid shitcoins (everything that is not BTC). Don't be like dumb crypto investors doing research trying to find the crypto with the best technology and innovation and comparing Bitcoin to AOL or Facebook saying BTC will soon be replaced by new shitcoins with superior technology. Post from ~7 years ago where people said *"Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet"* -- most these dummies have lost most their money. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7kval4/in_20_years_bitcoin_will_be_to_crypto_what_aol_is/ - In 20 years Bitcoin will be to crypto what AOL is now to the internet. - Lol—try 3-5 years. - I think 20 months tops - 20 yrs? Think 2. - It' ll happen sooner. The world turns faster constantly. Bitcoin is like a fat, slow dinosaur - Agreed. Could be months. The space is wide open for competition. Could def see ETH and BCH taking the crown. - Someday people will think that it'd ridiculous to pay fees and wait time to transfer money and they will buy IOTA - Companies will not bet on a burning piece of garbage like Bitcoin, and whatever they pick will win. I guarantee it. See: Bosch/IOTA. - Hmm your comment has made me think of possibly splitting my portfolio four ways - ETH, IOTA, XRP, REQ. - The sad fact is there are coins from 4 years ago that are better than Bitcoin, we don't even need new projects to take leaps forward. - Tl;dr I think your bitcoins are going to be about as valuable as your 20 hours of free internet CDs from AOL - In 2017 alone, Ethereum, Iota, Ripple, Vertcoin, Monero and Litecoin have all made big moves in terms of tech and adoption. What will 2018 bring? 2019? Will Bitcoin still lumber into 2020? And don't be like dumb crypto investors who fall for crypto that have developed partnerships with governments/enterprises and have real world use cases. These dummies all got bamboozled and have lost most their money. > "major banks will use XRP as a liquidity tool in 2018" and "an order of magnitude dozens of banks" will be using XRP in 2019" Brad Scamminghouse in 2018 https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/05/cnbc-interview-with-brad-garlinghouse-ripple-ceo.html > IBM ipartnering with Stellar to build the World Wire on the Stellar Network for open source financial services network https://www.signifytechnology.com/blog/2018/07/ibm-to-use-str-coin-on-stellar-blockchain > Cardano is going to digitize identification in Africa and IOHK is helping trace Ethiopian coffee beans through the supply chain. https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2021/04/30/cardano-in-africa-inside-iohks-ethiopia-blockchain-deal/ > IOTA's partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, tracking data and earning while you drive. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > Vechain partnered with countless companies including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China) with supply chain and carbon tracking memes. https://twitter.com/BYDCompany/status/1037605045309591552 > ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ > Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ > Factom partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security for immutable data ledger on multiple blockchains. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k > The South Australian Government conducting official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State) https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/ > Why I Went ALL-IN on Smartlands...The Real Estate market is the next holy grail of crypto and Smartlands are making it happen in the next few weeks. This is a multi-multi-trillion dollar market and there will be huge rewards for first movers and early adopters. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/mfpzmw/repost_from_rsmartlandsplatform_32_fundamental/

AppledogHu

We had a game on the ICON computers where you had to plant crops. I can't remember the name of the game. Please help!

remsbk

ICON For those who remember (kind of hype in 2017/2018)

Ultra918

ICON anyone remember this coin from 2019. It never got attention I hope it's time for this coin next Bullrun

biba8163

> A learned fool is more of a fool than an ignorant fool. —Molière 4 years ago, /r/cryptocurrency did their research and picked these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/

SaltyBaoBaos

Not gonna say what you should invest into. I’m only talking about adoption, there’s plenty of projects that has adoption. The problem with them? No matter how many “proof of concepts” comes to fruition for these projects with actual use cases. These coins don’t make you profit until years later. IE: TRAC, ICON, VET, HBAR I think the only coins that tends to do well in terms of short term to 1 year holds are DEFI projects, maybe NFT and memes imo. Any project that has a lot of DEFI tends to have really high TVL for the ecosystem as well. I think coins with actual adoption will only 100x when we get regulated, and many retail or maybe more big corps brings more hype and use cases mainstream wise.

mochi_ball223

Which alt is your greatest disappointment? Mine was ICON (ICX), we thought it'd be the korean ethereum 😅

feddee

Still holding a bag of ICON. Those were good days haha

hsemog

10x in ICON and VeChain in 2017… good times

InfinityDoesSilph

ICON

loksfox

They have added: Hedera Hashgraph, Ontology, ICON, Harmony, Waves, IoTeX, RSK, Solana, Nervos, Skale, and Stacks.

biba8163

> sell low! DOT is lower than 3 years ago in 2020 when it entered the top 10 after a vote passed multiplying balances by 10X and change the denomination of DOT from ~$400 to ~$4 so it would become easier scam low IQ crypto noobs. The circulating supply has gone up almost 400 Million since then with dumping on dummies who were happy to buy at a nice **"low price"**. Sad thing is dummies had been scammed many times with Layer-0, Interoperability bullshit, Internet of Blockchains, spin up your own blockchain in minutes and other tech scam bullshit hype memes since 2017/2018. All these projects did was securely facilitate separating fools from their money. DOT will likely go slowly into the shitcoin graveyard and be forgotten like these projects. 2017/18 Interoperability Money Grab Scams Kommodo > Blockchain Interoperability: Connecting Isolated Protocols https://komodoplatform.com/en/blog/blockchain-interoperability/ Icon > ICON: Network of Networks https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tccuu/icon_network_of_networks/ AION > How AION will become the new Internet of Blockchains with its new superfast and scalable Virtual Machine https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zb4xx/how_aion_will_become_the_new_internet_of/ Wanchain > The Wide Area Network chain, is a decentralised blockchain interoperability solution https://medium.com/wanchain-foundation/an-introduction-to-wanchain-a2936e25df91 ARK > ARK: Bridgechains, Smartbridges and Deploy a Blockchain in under a minute without CLI https://cryptopotato.com/ark-creating-one-ecosystem-of-connected-chains/ https://medium.com/ark-io/what-is-the-ark-smartbridge-and-how-does-it-work-1dd7fb1e17a0 https://np.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/ckae1q/ark_bridgechains_solving_scalability_and/ > Blockchain Interoperability Alliance: ICON x Aion x Wanchain https://medium.com/helloiconworld/blockchain-interoperability-alliance-icon-x-aion-x-wanchain-8aeaafb3ebdd

biba8163

DOT is lower than 3 years ago in 2020 when it entered the top 10 after a vote passed multiplying balances by 10X and change the denomination of DOT from $400 to $4 so it would become easier scam low IQ crypto noobs. The circulating supply has gone up almost 400 Million since then with relentless dumping on dummies. ATOM has been just as bad with the price around what it entered the market in 2019 and almost 200 Million shit tokens have been dumped on retail effectively doubling the circulation supply. Sad thing is dummies had been scammed many times with Layer-0, Interoperability bullshit, Internet of Blockchains, spin up your own blockchain in minutes and other tech scam bullshit hype memes since 2017/2018. All these projects did was securely facilitate separating fools from their money. DOT like all these projects will go into the shitcoin graveyard and be forgotten like most these projects. 2017/18 Interoperability Money Grab Scams Kommodo > Blockchain Interoperability: Connecting Isolated Protocols https://komodoplatform.com/en/blog/blockchain-interoperability/ Icon > ICON: Network of Networks https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tccuu/icon_network_of_networks/ AION > How AION will become the new Internet of Blockchains with its new superfast and scalable Virtual Machine https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zb4xx/how_aion_will_become_the_new_internet_of/ Wanchain > The Wide Area Network chain, is a decentralised blockchain interoperability solution https://medium.com/wanchain-foundation/an-introduction-to-wanchain-a2936e25df91 ARK > ARK: Bridgechains, Smartbridges and Deploy a Blockchain in under a minute without CLI https://cryptopotato.com/ark-creating-one-ecosystem-of-connected-chains/ https://medium.com/ark-io/what-is-the-ark-smartbridge-and-how-does-it-work-1dd7fb1e17a0 https://np.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/ckae1q/ark_bridgechains_solving_scalability_and/ > Blockchain Interoperability Alliance: ICON x Aion x Wanchain https://medium.com/helloiconworld/blockchain-interoperability-alliance-icon-x-aion-x-wanchain-8aeaafb3ebdd

biba8163

I am no longer seeing shilling of scams like DOT and ATOM. Did bag holders finally realize they got scammed? DOT is lower than 3 years ago in 2020 when it entered the top 10 after a vote passed multiplying balances by 10X and change the denomination of DOT from $400 to $4 so it would become easier scam low IQ crypto noobs. The circulating supply has gone up almost 400 Million since then with relentless dumping on dummies. ATOM has been just as bad with the price around what it entered the market in 2019 and almost 200 Million shit tokens have been dumped on retail effectively doubling the circulation supply. Sad thing is dummies had been scammed many times with Layer-0, Interoperability bullshit, Internet of Blockchains, spin up your own blockchain in minutes and other tech scam bullshit hype memes since 2017/2018. All these projects did was securely facilitate separating fools from their money. Nothing has changed. 2017/18 Interoperability Money Grab Scams Kommodo > Blockchain Interoperability: Connecting Isolated Protocols https://komodoplatform.com/en/blog/blockchain-interoperability/ Icon > ICON: Network of Networks https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tccuu/icon_network_of_networks/ AION > How AION will become the new Internet of Blockchains with its new superfast and scalable Virtual Machine https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zb4xx/how_aion_will_become_the_new_internet_of/ Wanchain > The Wide Area Network chain, is a decentralised blockchain interoperability solution https://medium.com/wanchain-foundation/an-introduction-to-wanchain-a2936e25df91 ARK > ARK: Bridgechains, Smartbridges and Deploy a Blockchain in under a minute without CLI https://cryptopotato.com/ark-creating-one-ecosystem-of-connected-chains/ https://medium.com/ark-io/what-is-the-ark-smartbridge-and-how-does-it-work-1dd7fb1e17a0 https://np.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/ckae1q/ark_bridgechains_solving_scalability_and/ > Blockchain Interoperability Alliance: ICON x Aion x Wanchain https://medium.com/helloiconworld/blockchain-interoperability-alliance-icon-x-aion-x-wanchain-8aeaafb3ebdd

mochi_ball223

ICON...so much hype for it back in 2017/18

I_Miss_Every_Shot

Missed the boat. My friend was all excited about ETH back in 2016 but I didn’t buy any. Then again, he was also going on about ICON and VeChain, also WanChain and Omisego at that time…

NiGhTShR0uD

I thankfully didn't invest in any meme projects but I did get burnt with hype coins such as ICON and a few others.

LargeSnorlax

Didn't these [all blow up massively from their lows going into the bullrun?](https://imgur.com/a/GVmHmpI) Looks like ICON is the worst of these, from relative peak to relative high it looks like it did a 10-15x. (Not grabbing the lowest or highest numbers but more taking what a reasonable person could've bought and sold for) If we take Bitcoin from the same period and be generous about a buyin (Let's say $4k) and be very generous about a sell price (say 65k), that's a 16x gain, which would mean these ridiculed coins all outperformed Bitcoin, except for ICON I guess. Not to ruin a good narrative, but...

biba8163

Throwing money at /r/cryptocurrency beloved shitcoins after they tanked to kingdom come and people turned against it turned out great for those who invested in IOTA, REQ, ICON, Vechain, NANO, etc. > Picked up 26,000 NANO @ $5.5 ....Literally felt like I'm stealing from someone at these levels. https://np.reddit.com/r/nanocurrency/comments/8km1sl/picked_up_26000_nano_55/

NorskKiwi

As an ICON fan I'm ecstatic! Go ICX!

biba8163

> These coins will still appreciate massively on the next bull run In 2019, people were naming the shitcoins they were holding as strongest projects to survive, there was developer activity and work being done...most these projects didn't "appreciate massively" > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, XRP, XLM, ADA, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/ I am warning you like I warned in 2019, most meme tech hype token dump projects don't pump much in the new cycle and make room for new shitcoins which haven't dumped yet > Don't worry, a new round of shitcoins will be coming with new hype. Soon people will be shilling about Cosmos, Polkadot, Hydera Hash, Fantom, Radix, etc. Some of these other coins that are in the top 25 will be gone the way Stratis, Golem, MaidSafe, Bitshares, SingularDTV which were in the top 25 at this time in 2017. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bjohvq/daily_discussion_may_2_2019_gmt0/emd4p9j/

biba8163

> only those with good tech will remain relevant Crypto investors AGAIN fell for the **Recipe for a pump and dump shitcoin scam = TECHNOLOGY + PARTNERSHIP** Looking at ALGORAND, SOLANA, AVAX, remind me of IOTA which at one point was $5 and #4 on Coinmarketcap and people kept shilling their advanced technology and partnerships with Bosch, VW, Jaguar, Fujitsu, the EU, etc. Today even with 1/4 the total supply of ALGO, IOTA cannot even hold $0.20 as the hype is dead and people come to the realization that the tech is a meme and absolutely nothing came out of or will come out of all those partnerships... IOTA Partnership with Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ > Earn Money as you drive.....IOTA partnership with Jaguar and Land Rover https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover ...Or ICON with all its technology and INSANE partnerships and doing things Ethereum could only imagine was guaranteed to be a success so people where dropping $50K investment into it > Parnerships with Korean hospitals, banks, insurance companies, universities, Samsung, securities platform, etc https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7m9il0/the_insane_network_of_partnerships_connected_to/ > Unifying all kind of payment system (purchase, tuition etc) of into a single coin among multiple universities...All those stuffs Ethereum is dreaming of doing, optimistically in 2 years. ICON had them done already. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/ ...OR Vechain with its ground breaking supply chain solutions that every company in the world was partnering with Nothing like a cryptocurrency partnerships to pump a project and dump on newbies. **Vechain** is #1 in this field. > Vechain partners with the Chinese government https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7qaqt1/vechain_partners_with_china_central_government/ > VeChain Will Solve China’s Drug And Vaccine Traceability Problems...The Chinese government specifically requested that VeChain and DNV GL present their vaccine traceability IoT solution at the China International Import Expo on November 5-10, 2018, where President Xi Jinping will be in attendance. https://www.investinblockchain.com/vechain-drug-vaccine-traceability/ > Presidents Jinping, Macron First to Taste Blockchain-Verified Beef https://news.8btc.com/presidents-jinping-macron-first-to-taste-blockchain-verified-beef > Vechain partners with the fastest growing online lender in China https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7rag4u/vechain_will_partner_with_fanghuwang_one_of_the/ Vechain partners with Bright foods https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8jva6k/vechain_signs_a_partnership_with_bright_foods_and/ > Vechain partners with PWC https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8gy2l6/pwc_hong_kong_and_pwc_singapore_announce_joint/ > Vechain partners with Louis Vitton https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/8b0yb2/vechain_joins_louis_vuittons_new_start_program_la/ > "Cahrenheit will become one of the world’s largest blockchain based ecosystems, disrupting the **trillion dollar** automotive industry" - Sunny Lu June 2018...shown to be nothing but bullshit hype https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/announcing-cahrenheit-a-blockchain-based-ecosystem-for-the-automotive-industry-powered-by-the-f9d8b643c842 > Vechain parnters with Bayer https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/grwsap/bayer_is_working_with_vechain_to_codevelop/fs1vqgr/ > VeChain is proud to be chosen by NTT Docomo to be the first batch of partners for the 5G Open Partner Program https://medium.com/@vechainofficial/vechain-is-chosen-for-the-ntt-docomo-5g-partner-program-3f89c8d95b40 > DNV GL and VeChain, BYD has developed a carbon credit application which will be installed in BYD car...Carbon banking will be a new reality for billions https://vechaininsider.com/news/vechain-partners-with-chinas-largest-electric-car-manufacturer-byd/ > Vechain partners with Walmart https://www.coinspeaker.com/walmart-vechain-vet-price/

biba8163

I posted warnings lots of times to new people when the bull market was on in 2021 - especially when people were asking "Why does anyone even invest in BTC?" https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/pcjpft/why_do_people_still_buy_btc/hajum1g/ A lot of new people to the crypto space really haven't experienced a rugpull yet. In almost every single project investors are eventually left bagholders whether it is a pure money grab or because tokenomics puts the vast majority of the supply in the hands founders and insiders. The Bitcoin is outdated and we have a better technology narrative has been used to lure investors and in the vast majority of cases, investors have been losing their money since 2013 when better than Bitcoin projects came to the scene. There are some really interesting projects with technical merits but looking at how the supply was distributed with the founders, developers, insiders, now VCs and/or "the foundation" keeping the majority of the supply to themselves while the price pumps with limited supply released to the public, I don't see how things are going to be any different from 2013 and 2017. 2013 - https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131231/ NXT -First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake - 1.5 minutes block times - Java - DEX - Messaging - Assets in the blockchain - Programmable APIs NameCoin - Decentralized DNS - One of the first to have support for NFTs PrimeCoin - Vitalik referred to PrimeCon developer Sunny King as the "the single most original altcoin developer" and if PrimeCoin and Bitcoin were released in 2008, PrimeCoin would have won https://talk.peercoin.net/t/transcript-of-sunny-king-interview-with-vitalik-buterin-from-bitcoinmagazine/463 PeerCoin - First Proof of Stake coin 2017 - https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20171231/ Some of the narratives that were sold in 2017 included: - XRP is the Standard. Banks are about to adopt XRP as the settlement and interoperability layer for the internet of value. - Stratis (this was once the #8 on marketcap) is the future of Blockchain tech, smart contracts written in C#. Devs are going to flock to the platform - IOTA (was once #4 on marketcap) is going to be the backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, the underlying protocol for the internet of things - NEO (once staple top 10) is going to bring the smart economy to China by by smart contracts and digigtal assets. The potential is just huge in China. - SIA and Golem are going to revolutionize tech creating a paradigm shift in storage and computing - ICON is the Korean Ethereum because they partnered with a ton of Korean banks, hospitals, universities. This will be huge in Korea because Koreans support their own projects and this will hyperconnect the world. - REQuest Network is the most important financial project to crypto. This is the paypal of crypto. - Raiblocks (Nano) is fast and feeless and will kill every inefficient blockchain currency

coinfeeds-bot

tldr; The trial of Mark Shin, accused of stealing $9 million worth of cryptocurrency, has ended in a hung jury. Shin was accused of minting around 14 million ICON cryptocurrency tokens without paying their value by taking advantage of a software update. Shin's attorneys argued that he did not commit theft or cybercrime and was not the only one who realized there was a bug. The District Attorney’s Office plans to retry him. *This summary is auto generated by a bot and not meant to replace reading the original article. As always, DYOR.*

Truffle_Shuffle_85

>IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, XRP, XLM, ADA, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... I did my research, and I've concluded one thing. Big, if true.

biba8163

The same question was asked many times in 2019 and people thought named all these projects which are either dead or down -90% or more from 2018 ATHs to have the greatest potential > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, XRP, XLM, ADA, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/ I was saying your don't hold on to your shitcoin bags, shiny new toys will be hyped the next bull run > Don't worry, a new round of shitcoins will be coming with new hype. Soon people will be shilling about Cosmos, Polkadot, Hydera Hash, Fantom, Radix, etc. Some of these other coins that are in the top 25 will be gone the way Stratis, Golem, MaidSafe, Bitshares, SingularDTV which were in the top 25 at this time in 2017. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bjohvq/daily_discussion_may_2_2019_gmt0/emd4p9j/ People always believe that the meme tech that they invested in is the future. Mostly, the only point of the meme tech was to dump tokens on you

biba8163

**The Circle of Shitcoin Life** In the 2019 bear market, people picked out these projects as strongest to survive: > IOTA, ICON, Vechain, Nano, NEO, BCH, XRP, XLM, ADA, DragonChain, Factom, Zilliqua... https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/au3j49/only_the_strongest_will_survive_the_great_altcoin/ I warned that new shitcoins will come next cycle and people won't be buying old shitcoins from bagholders: > Don't worry, a new round of shitcoins will be coming with new hype. Soon people will be shilling about Cosmos, Polkadot, Hydera Hash, Fantom, Radix, etc. Some of these other coins that are in the top 25 will be gone the way Stratis, Golem, MaidSafe, Bitshares, SingularDTV which were in the top 25 at this time in 2017. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/bjohvq/daily_discussion_may_2_2019_gmt0/emd4p9j/ Today almost every single that people were bullish on is down -97% from 2017/18 or dead. In the next few years almost every single meme tech coin that you are holding or buying the dip on today is also going to be dead.

3utt5lut

I for one look greatly forward to the adaptations that this brings with IBC. Especially the non-VC funded approach that Cosmos takes towards their blockchain development. Small steps currently, and the ISS is incremental with other workings in place by Polkadot, ICON, and other interoperability networks working towards the same goal of a unified relay chain.

biba8163

> Loads of people here can't seem to figure out finding legitimate protocols...investing into sound projects EASY to say this when you can't name any "legitimate protocols and soundsprojects" which either haven't lost you -90% or haven't underperformed BTC/ETH by -70% over the years. If you DON'T include Bitcoin and Ethereum, the OTHER 18 PROJECTS in the TOP 20 from 5 1/2 years ago went from ~$240 BILLION MARKETCAP to like ~$50 BILLION MARKETCAP with every single project losing investors money. If you do the .. Top 200 Coins from 5 1/2 years ago: - 3 coins outperforming Bitcoin - 6 coins actually in profit - 194 coins in losses https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180101/ And yes, people were led to believe they were investing in sound projects, legitimate protocols, where there was lots of development being done, partnerships where big enterprises had bought in in projects like IOTA, ICON, AION, etc.

biba8163

If that is the strategy you should go with all the projects that /r/cryptocurrency shilled to death then turned bearish and capitulated on, you should be rich the next bullrun - IOTA - The backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, the underlying protocol for the internet of things" - NEO - The Chinese Ethereum, massive market in China. - ICON - The Korean Ethereum, they're partnered with a ton of Korean banks, hospitals, universities....and you know Koreans support their own projects - OMG - Going to bank the unbanked. The future of blockchain. Just look at the team. Vitalik himself is an advisor! - NANO - fast and feeless and will kill every inefficient blockchain currency - VET - First crypto with enterprise adoption. Look at all those partnerships, everything is going to be tracked on the blockchain.

biba8163

> solid projecting Over the past 6-7 years on crypto subs, I've seen people time and time again do research, due diligence and then drop $50K+ on what they think is a revolutionary crypto technology project. $50K+ dropped on IOTA, ICON, VET, etc.....only to lose -95% of their money. I've never seen anyone post here claiming they read a meme coin white paper, did research and drop $50K on it. People just drop $200 or $2K and hope they win the lottery and laugh it off if they lose most of it. Yet the the meme coins where people lose a little money on, where most people accept the risk of losing money are the coins where everyone is posting concerned that it is bad for the crypto space and it is a rug pull. The tokennomics of these projects that /r/cryptocurrency has been shilling for the last 7 years is the same model as the meme coins where a little of the supply is released to pump it up and tokens are continuously dumped on you. > Why I dropped $50K on ICX, the blockchain that connects all at over 9,000 TPS. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/ > I bought a strength X node for $46,000. Current value: $7500. Dividends over past 3 months: $62. Give me one reason not to end my. life https://np.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/a042ix/i_bought_a_strength_x_node_for_46000/ https://imgur.com/U6d90Xz Shitcoins like these have the same rug pull tokenomics as meme coins but they are just veiled with partnership and technology memes but /r/cryptocurrency will legitimize, shill and defend them while calling out memecoins - Avalanche 76 Million to 326 Million since 2020 (330% inflation in 2 years) - Hedera 6.6 Billion to 30 Billion (400% inflation in 2 years ) - Algorand 1.1 Billion to 7 Billion (530% inflation in 2 years)

biba8163

Over the past 6-7 years on crypto subs, I've seen people time and time again do research, due diligence and then drop $50K+ on what they think is a revolutionary crypto technology project. $50K+ dropped on IOTA, ICON, VET, etc.....only to lose -95% of their money. I've never seen anyone post here claiming they read a meme coin white paper, did research and drop $50K on it. People just drop $200 or $2K and hope they win the lottery and laugh it off if they lose most of it. Yet the the meme coins where people lose a little money on, where most people accept the risk of losing money are the coins where everyone is posting concerned that it is bad for the crypto space and it is a rug pull. The tokennomics of these projects that /r/cryptocurrency has been shilling for the last 7 years is the same model as the meme coins where a little of the supply is released to pump it up and tokens are continuously dumped on you. > Why I dropped $50K on ICX, the blockchain that connects all at over 9,000 TPS. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/ > I bought a strength X node for $46,000. Current value: $7500. Dividends over past 3 months: $62. Give me one reason not to end my. life https://np.reddit.com/r/Vechain/comments/a042ix/i_bought_a_strength_x_node_for_46000/ https://imgur.com/U6d90Xz Shitcoins like these have the same rug pull tokenomics as meme coins but they are just veiled with partnership and technology memes but /r/cryptocurrency will legitimize, shill and defend projects like these while calling out memecoins - Avalanche 76 Million to 326 Million since 2020 (330% inflation in 2 years) - Hedera 6.6 Billion to 30 Billion (400% inflation in 2 years ) - Algorand 1.1 Billion to 7 Billion (530% inflation in 2 years)

Jaugusts

That reminds me of ICON icx the Koreans ether lmao also got played in 2017

fatlever2

There will always be a better cleaner design and tech from the ground up in the future. The problem is it will never have the adoption, developer mind share and tokenomics distribution. The best you get is a few good pumps, then investor saturation and circulating supply dilution as insiders dump and everyone eventually jumps ship. See shitcoins like IOTA, EOS, ICON, etc. Bitcoin and Ethereum have won in their respective spaces.

brianddk

TLDR; The bitcoin ICON used in the article is clickbait. BTC is not effected. The two vulnerabilities found were an RPC vulnerability in Dogecoin "core" client. The LTC (and 280 chains... not BTC), they called RAB13s was basically a way to likely hang a listening nodes listening TCP/IP port (details not provided). The attack would work by trying to take much of the nodes down, so that a scant majority of surviving (patched) nodes could proceed with a 51% attack. Article didn't mention wether this attack worked on the miners (cgminer) or just the non-mining "core" client. VERY very light on detail.

boomdeyada88

Unhappily married to ICON since 2018, i was putting too much hope into this coin

Marko-brolo

So will ICON

oachkatzalschwoaf

Omg your examples: i still hold my NEO and ICON. With IOTA its worse as i havn't really stopped dca in.

belzarek

what happened to ICON it seemed really promising with some degree of adoption in korea no?

Throwaway4VPN

Amazing that Dash was in the top 10 for so many years and is now fading into obsoletion. Anyone here in 2017 would also remember that ICON and IOTA were considered coins that were very much here to stay... This industry is moving so fast that the current favourites have no guarantee of even being talked about still let alone used in 2025..

Hoersxd

I’ve had my fair share of crazy ideas/end game plans during my first year as it also was my introduction into the finance world. I was naive and like most ppl are… 2greedy to sell at the end of bullmarket. My ATH value was somewhere worth around 6 years of salary but I foolishly believed it would turn around again until it was half it’s ATH value. Which still was a huge sum of cash and profit but u live and learn growing into adulthood. The first year of my first bearmarket was depressing but I told myself it was an expensive lesson but I learned a good lesson. After a while of telling myself that mantra. I started to believe it. Used to dca every month during the 2 first years of bear into ICON. For the staking they had announced. In my Scandinavian country many banks started to bann the ability to buy crypto on the most common sites binance/coinbase. So these last years I’ve only used crypto to buy drugs and save monthly on indexfunds instead.

23SNAFU23

ICX ICON has BTP and XCall coming. Blockchain Transmission Protocol (BTP) is ICON’s cross-chain interoperability solution. ICON’s BTP facilitates the transfer of information between connected blockchains. In practice, BTP will allow users to move tokens, NFTs, messages, and more across BTP-enabled chains. xCall is a key feature of BTP and ICON’s unique standard for generic cross-chain messaging between heterogeneous blockchains. A growing number of blockchains are implementing BTP smart contracts. Here’s a list of future connected partners: ICE Blockchain Moonriver Blockchain Moonbeam Blockchain Algorand Blockchain BNB Smart Chain Harmony Protocol NEAR Protocol

NorskKiwi

Greetings team, we'd love to collaborate on business development and sourcing VC funding for migration of a live/successful NFT game [Project Nebula](https://projectnebula.com) to the Polygon ecosystem. **What is Project Nebula?** Project Nebula was born on the ICON blockchain with a mission to bring real-stakes strategy and gameplay to the NFT space (no pun intended). Founded by a team of avid RPG and strategy-game enthusiasts, Project Nebula enjoyed a strong GEN-0 presale and launched with planets and spaceships going out to hundreds of eager players. Today the project has a 1k+ community of players and collectors who venture into explorable sectors and regions of the new universe to discover planets; interact with over a hundred unique objects; encounter lore, music and art providing satellites and relays, and use their planetary and collected resources to craft NFTs that enable them to go further, faster and find more. Project Nebula Roadmap: https://www.projectnebula.com/roadmap Project Nebula Whitepaper: [https://www.projectnebula.com/whitepaper.pdf](https://www.projectnebula.com/whitepaper.pdf) ​ **WHO ARE THESE NFTs FOR?** It's for the gaming nerds; those that love when great art, gameplay, and storytelling blend to create an experience unlike any other. It's also for the NFT enthusiasts that are tired of lackluster mini-games, and starving for an authentic strategy game. ​ **LICENCING RIGHTS** Project Nebula Martian Spaceship holders will enjoy full emit of A16Z’s CBE-Exclusive Licensing Model, which effectively means full exclusive commercial rights granted to the NFT holder (and zero exploitation rights retained by Project Nebula). You will truly own what is yours. Feel free to make comics, fan art, or something else cool.

HurricaneHarvey7

He's right though. All of these "new" coins are just the ICON, Waltonchain, NEO, IOTA of this cycle.

boomdeyada88

ICON - developing interoperability that would close the security gaps that current solutions have

biba8163

> Actual adoption Measly Meme Partnerships never fails to lure gullible crypto investors to become bagholders - IBM had a partnership with Stellar. XLM is down more than -95% since 2017/18 ATH https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ibm-announces-major-blockchain-solution-to-speed-global-payments-300536884.html - MoneyGram had a partnership with Ripple. XRP is down more than -95 since 2017/2018. https://ripple.com/insights/moneygram-use-xrp-faster-international-payments/ - IOTA had a partnership with Volkswagen, Jaguar, Bosch, etc. IOTA is down more than -95% since 2017/2018. https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover - ICON had a partnership with Samsung and a ton of other companies. You know they were hyper connecting the world. ICON is down -97% since 2017/2018/ https://globalcoinreport.com/icon-icx-partners-up-with-samsung-thanks-to-chain-id/ - Vechain had partnerships with everything under the sun including Walmart and BYD (largest EV manafacturer in China). VET is down -80% since 2018 - Constellation Network to Provide US Air Force With Blockchain Security for Data Sharing. DAG is dead. https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/08/26/constellation-network-to-provide-us-air-force-with-blockchain-security-for-data-sharing/ - Factom had partnership with the US Department of Homeland Security. FCT is dead dead. https://www.dhs.gov/science-and-technology/news/2018/06/15/news-release-dhs-awards-austin-based-factom-inc-192k - The South Australian Government will conduct an official election using a blockchain-based voting system (using Horizon State). HST is dead https://micky.com.au/blockchain-technology-used-by-south-australian-government-to-conduct-election/

boomdeyada88

ICON definitelly, all faith based in on the fact that they had huge jump during 2017/18 bull run. Funny thing is, i am still damn holding it

biba8163

I've been posting this since 2017/18, that new people need to be careful falling for the tech meme. Amazing technology and active development does not mean success. NXT was launched in 2014, a top 5 project, was the most advanced platform, had a huge community of investors and developer and there is forum with hundreds of thousands of posts in multiple languages here: https://nxtforum.org/ - First coin that was 100% Proof of Stake - 1 minutes block times - Java programming lanaguage - DEX (Chainlink's Sergey Nazarov worked on a DEX project there) - Messaging - Assets in the blockchain (Staple top 10 coins like NEM were launched there) - Programmable APIs - Smart Contracts But by the time of 2017 bullrun, NXT fell into irrelevance and even hyped shitcoin platforms like Stratis, NEO, etc easily surpassed it. Today, most new people haven't heard of NXT or aren't even aware how hyped and loved the shitcoin platforms that followed NXT like Stratis, NEO, IOTA, ICON, AION, were. People are falling for the same technology hype or the same meme partnerships. Most people have lost money or will lose money in these projects, as the founders dump more of the supply on them, they slowly fall into irrelevance and new shitcoins arise to replace the old. > (ICON) Unifying all kind of payment system (purchase, tuition etc) of into a single coin among multiple universities...All those stuffs Ethereum is dreaming of doing, optimistically in 2 years. ICON had them done already. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/ > Parnerships with Korean hospitals, banks, insurance companies, universities, Samsung, securities platform, etc https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7m9il0/the_insane_network_of_partnerships_connected_to/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ > Earn Money as you drive.....IOTA partnership with Jaguar and Land Rover https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu and Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/

boomdeyada88

Any Koreans here who could comment on ICON project? Bad overall communication from the team, so i am wondering if it's better in Korean community.

boomdeyada88

I can speak only about those that i closely follow for some time now. First one is ICX, the company behind them (Iconloop) is building an NFT blockchain, big Korean names from gaming industry are supporting them, and the goal is to make it fully interoperable. (name of the blockchain is Havah) Also, they are transforming ICX into interoperable solution (it takes them a lot of time to develop, more than 2 years of building, but goal is to make it most secure solution). I associate slow and steady approach with security and risk mitigation. ICON has already established working teams to connect ETH, Near, Moonbeam, Polkadot and others. Second one is COTI. COTI is similar to other blockchains but is different as they are using DAG technology. Other projects with DAG technology are IOTA, Nano, Hedera…) COTI is building stablecoin for Cardano, and recently they have gone through hard fork transfering their network from single coin to multi coin. Mostly building solutions for enterprises.

wsdmrtst

Uh, so you'd sell your 10 btc for $168,000 worth of altcoins, then when BTC reaches it's new all time high you'll buy it back? nah... I say buy low/sell high... or exchange... whatever. No telling which altcoins would still be standing by the end of this bear market ( spring/summer 2024) - and, even if the ones you're betting on are still around, who know what the bitcoin dominance will be in comparison. Last bear market saw these altcoins as the top contenders (EOS, ADA, LTC, XLM, PIVX, IOTA, ZEN, 0X, OMG, ICON, NANO)... not trying to be a hater but I don't see them as having made any huge waves since 2017/2018....

Appropriate_Ad_5956

I am married to ICX (ICON) for the tech, the real nice community and the fact it brings me some passive income (7.5 %) by staking.

biba8163

Recipe for a pump and dump shitcoin scam: TECHNOLOGY + PARTNERSHIP Looking at ALGORAND, SOLANA, AVAX, remind me of IOTA which at one point was $5 and #4 on Coinmarketcap and people kept shilling their advanced technology and partnerships with Bosch, VW, Jaguar, Fujitsu, the EU, etc. Today even with 1/4 the total supply of ALGO, IOTA cannot even hold $0.20 as the hype is dead and people come to the realization that the tech is a meme and absolutely nothing came out of or will come out of all those partnerships... IOTA Partnership with Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ > Earn Money as you drive.....IOTA partnership with Jaguar and Land Rover https://www.jaguarlandrover.com/news/2019/04/money-earn-you-drive-jaguar-land-rover ...Or ICON with all its technology and INSANE partnerships and doing things Ethereum could only imagine was guaranteed to be a success so people where dropping $50K investment into it > Parnerships with Korean hospitals, banks, insurance companies, universities, Samsung, securities platform, etc https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7m9il0/the_insane_network_of_partnerships_connected_to/ > Unifying all kind of payment system (purchase, tuition etc) of into a single coin among multiple universities...All those stuffs Ethereum is dreaming of doing, optimistically in 2 years. ICON had them done already. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/

biba8163

Recipe for a pump and dump shitcoin scam: TECHNOLOGY + PARTNERSHIP Looking at ALGORAND, SOLANA, AVAX, remind me of IOTA which at one point was $5 and #4 on Coinmarketcap and people kept shilling their advanced technology and partnerships with Bosch, VW, Jaguar, Fujitsu, the EU, etc. Today even with 1/4 the total supply of ALGO, IOTA cannot even hold $0.20 as the hype is dead and people come to the realization that the tech is a meme and absolutely nothing came out of or will come out of all those partnerships... IOTA Partnership with Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ ...Or ICON with all its technology and INSANE partnerships and doing things Ethereum could only imagine was guaranteed to be a success so people where dropping $50K investment into it > Parnerships with Korean hospitals, banks, insurance companies, universities, Samsung, securities platform, etc https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7m9il0/the_insane_network_of_partnerships_connected_to/ > Unifying all kind of payment system (purchase, tuition etc) of into a single coin among multiple universities...All those stuffs Ethereum is dreaming of doing, optimistically in 2 years. ICON had them done already. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/

biba8163

People fell for the crypto technology meme. Or the crypto partnership scam. Again. The technology hype and meme partnership shitcoins of this cycle, ALGORAND, SOLANA, AVAX, remind me of IOTA which at one point was $5 and #4 on Coinmarketcap and people kept shilling their advanced technology and partnerships with Bosch, VW, Jaguar, Fujitsu, the EU, etc. Today even with 1/4 the total supply of Algo, IOTA cannot even hold $0.20 as the hype is dead and people come to the realization that absolutely nothing came out of or will come out of all those partnerships... IOTA Partnership with Bosch https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Fujitsu https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7vx7or/fujitsu_and_iota_preparing_for_bosch_connected/ > IOTA Partnership with Volkswagon https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7z7ahh/vw_announcing_cooperation_with_iota_foundation_at/ ...Or ICON with all its technology and INSANE partnerships was guaranteed to be a success so people where dropping $50K investment into it > Parnerships with Korean hospitals, banks, insurance companies, universities, Samsung, securities platform, etc https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7m9il0/the_insane_network_of_partnerships_connected_to/ > Unifying all kind of payment system (purchase, tuition etc) of into a single coin among multiple universities...All those stuffs Ethereum is dreaming of doing, optimistically in 2 years. ICON had them done already. https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7o4bcv/why_i_dropped_50k_on_icx_the_blockchain_that/

biba8163

Tezos story should be a warning to investors about exactly what happens to these grand vision pump and dump moneygrab schemes that people are falling for today like Algorand, Solana, Avalanche, etc. We've seen this over and over with Stratis, EOS, IOTA, ICON, NEO, etc. - In 2017, Tezos was the largest ICO ever (EOS would surpass that greed) - Uncaped ICO - Collected 60,000 BTC - Collected 310,000 ETH - Hyped up promises of payment systems, decentralized companies, decentralized markets, insurance contracts, crowd funding and much much more. - Founders and insiders get greedy, have zero product and spam each other with lawsuits. - SEC sues them for selling unregistered securities - Years later, finally deliver a shitcoin - Shitcoin pumps and dumps, founders get get filthy rich, most people who fell for Tezos lose money - Shitcoin is floating down the toilet into irrelevance into the shitcoin abysss and is used for some meme use cases and nothing like the vaporware dreams that was promised

biba8163

These were the most shilled coins and the hype narratives during 2017/18. EVERY SINGLE one of these projects is down -95% or more from their 2017/18 highs. April 2017 --> XRP is the Standard! Banks are about to adopt XRP while you invest in joke projects. May 2017 --> Stratis is the future of Blockchain tech, smart contracts written in C#. Devs are going to flock to the platform June 2017 --> IOTA is going to be the backbone for the "machine to machine (M2M) economy, the underlying protocol for the internet of things" July 2017 --> SIA and Golem are going to revolutionize tech creating a paradigm shift in storage and computing. This isn't like 2013 meme coins, we have serious projects in 2017. August 2017 --> NEO is the Chinese Ethereum, just look at the market the potential is massive September 2017 --> Bitcoin Cash is the real Bitcoin. Bigger blocks, blockstream sucks, Roger Ver is the lord and saviour. October 2017 --> OMG is going to bank the unbanked. The future of blockchain. Just look at the team. Vitalik himself is an advisor! November 2017 --> Vertcoin because ASIC resistance is the future December 2017 --> REQuest Network is the most important financial project to crypto. They are a Y-Combinator startup so you know they are very aggressive! January 2018 --> Raiblocks is fast and feeless and will kill every inefficient blockchain currency February 2018 --> Vechain is going to be the first crypto with enterprise adoption. Look at all those partnerships. Nah man, look at ICON, it's the Korean Ethereum, they're partnered with a ton of Korean banks, hospitals, universities....and you know Koreans support their own projects. As I said before the scam is still the same but now you have VC's partnering with Ivy League professors. But the scam is always the same. Release a small percentage of tokens as circulating supply, hype up a shitcoin, pump the price and lure gullible investors and keep dumping on them for free money. Crypto investors left holding bags, telling themselves, it's just the bear market, it'll recover

biba8163

Bullish people have been scammed with Interoperability, Internet of Blockchains, Spin up your own Blockchain in minutes and other tech scam bullshit hype memes since 2017/2018. All these projects did was securely facilitate separating fools from their money. Nothing has changed. 2017/18 Interoperability Money Grab Scams Kommodo > Blockchain Interoperability: Connecting Isolated Protocols https://komodoplatform.com/en/blog/blockchain-interoperability/ Icon > ICON: Network of Networks https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tccuu/icon_network_of_networks/ AION > How AION will become the new Internet of Blockchains with its new superfast and scalable Virtual Machine https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zb4xx/how_aion_will_become_the_new_internet_of/ Wanchain > The Wide Area Network chain, is a decentralised blockchain interoperability solution https://medium.com/wanchain-foundation/an-introduction-to-wanchain-a2936e25df91 ARK > ARK: Bridgechains, Smartbridges and Deploy a Blockchain in under a minute without CLI https://cryptopotato.com/ark-creating-one-ecosystem-of-connected-chains/ https://medium.com/ark-io/what-is-the-ark-smartbridge-and-how-does-it-work-1dd7fb1e17a0 https://np.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/ckae1q/ark_bridgechains_solving_scalability_and/ > Blockchain Interoperability Alliance: ICON x Aion x Wanchain https://medium.com/helloiconworld/blockchain-interoperability-alliance-icon-x-aion-x-wanchain-8aeaafb3ebdd

Appropriate_Ad_5956

I picked ICON (ICX) for this. Brings me 7,5% for staking. A lot better than what banks offer nowadays.

boomdeyada88

I thought, maybe it happens if i visualize it 😁 ICON was once a top 20 coin, similar to Cosmos, working for the past years to develop ultimate cross chain bridge. So if they succeed, i have no doubt that they could reach new ATH. And Coti is L1 financial system built on DAG technology that is focusing their effort on enterprises and big companies.

jakegearsgod

Waltonchain and ICON were big ones too Good times man

believeinapathy

I thought the same last cycle with EOS, NEO, ICON, NANO, etc. And they're all dead and buried as legitimate projects/investment.

SnooperMike

Damn where my ICX bros at? ICON was supposed to bring the golden age of interoperability tho......

FldLima

\#1 - ICON/LOGO - If it is cute or well designed, it must be good. \#2 - NAME - I wouldn't put my money on something called $STO $LAO but i'd rather lump sum something like $FLCNPUNCH or $INFINITYCOIN

countjah

ICX(ICON). Still here. But that 12.5USD ath not

Appropriate_Ad_5956

With my occassional gains I buy ICX (ICON) nowadays and get a nice 7,5% staking reward for them. Better than the lousy interest rates on my savings with the bank (atm 0,25%).

Proud-Masterpiece

That’s ridiculous. How could Vechain compare with NEM, WTC, ICON, etc in that regard?

Obvious-Ad-1677

You're just picking the top coins as of today though. Go look at the top 20 coins back then (which is all you knew at the time) and see how they fare with your strategy. Bitcoin Gold, NEM, Stellar, IOTA, Dash, EOS, Neo, Lisk, ICON, Nano... all a losing strategy. Look more towards the 50 mark, and several coins I picked at random are down. Electroneum, Angur, Ark. Start to look further down the 100 list and many coins didn't even have a pump in 2021... you'd be down every single day of your investment. Whatever you do, don't just look at the top performing coins of the past 4 years and then say it would have been a good investment to DCA into them... that's literally like looking at the winners list in a horse race and saying it would have been a good idea to bet on them. If you only hold coins in the top 10, fair enough.. they seem pretty stable relatively and they are likely to come back... LIKELY... but there is no guarantee. The top 10 in 4 years time might look completely different, and your coins might not have even had a pump.

jewbagel10

A true fashion ICON

Mammon84

OMG was a bust NEO and ICON, but i still believe in them even tough price action was not great. Both projects are far from dead. Luna, Sol and Cardano I never touched any of them, because they all seemed like scams. 2 down and 1 to go 🤭

WantAndAble

I agree and disagree - as ive seen many technical focused projects not deliver and dwindle. The "to the moon" stuff is a more recent fad. But stuff like NEO, NEM, DASH, BCH, SRATIS, ICON, KOMODO, IOTA All actively developed, non moon boy projects that were technical focused. All disappointments up to this point. Even though theyre often still being developed. Doesnt mean theyll provide for you in the future. ADA could be developed actively forever and never live up to its potential - and it might not be because of any technical flaws.

Appropriate_Ad_5956

ICX (ICON) MCap 217M, available supply less than 800M. I'm holding a nice bag of ICX that generates 7.5% staking for me. Quite a lot better than what banks are offering nowadays.

biba8163

People have been scammed with Interoperability, Internet of Blockchains, Spin up your own Blockchain in minutes and other tech scam hype memes. All these projects did was securely facilitate seperating fools from their money. From the looks of it, it appears people with continue to get scammed it. 2017/18 Interoperability Money Grab Scams Kommodo > Blockchain Interoperability: Connecting Isolated Protocols https://komodoplatform.com/en/blog/blockchain-interoperability/ Icon > ICON: Network of Networks https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7tccuu/icon_network_of_networks/ AION > How AION will become the new Internet of Blockchains with its new superfast and scalable Virtual Machine https://np.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/7zb4xx/how_aion_will_become_the_new_internet_of/ Wanchain > The Wide Area Network chain, is a decentralised blockchain interoperability solution https://medium.com/wanchain-foundation/an-introduction-to-wanchain-a2936e25df91 ARK > ARK: Bridgechains, Smartbridges and Deploy a Blockchain in under a minute without CLI https://cryptopotato.com/ark-creating-one-ecosystem-of-connected-chains/ https://medium.com/ark-io/what-is-the-ark-smartbridge-and-how-does-it-work-1dd7fb1e17a0 https://np.reddit.com/r/ArkEcosystem/comments/ckae1q/ark_bridgechains_solving_scalability_and/ > Blockchain Interoperability Alliance: ICON x Aion x Wanchain https://medium.com/helloiconworld/blockchain-interoperability-alliance-icon-x-aion-x-wanchain-8aeaafb3ebdd

asclepius-crushes

Partly true, ICON's BTP is complete generalizable due to its use of BTP blocks (cryptographic hashing algorithms that are supported by the smart contract environments of their respective destination chains). For example, BTP blocks with Ethereum as the target network will use the Keccak hashing algorithm since that is what is supported by EVM. Without BTP blocks, ICON would need destination chains to support the SHA3-256 hashing algorithm in their smart contract environments to verify ICON blocks with reasonable gas costs. This often requires a hard fork of the destination chain. I recommend reading the [BTP litepaper](https://icon.community/assets/btp-litepaper.pdf), it is one of the most impressive engineering feats I've come across in blockchain. It's being slept on hard.

asclepius-crushes

This is why fully on-chain bridging is the only acceptable solution going forward. Anyone who hasn't checked [ICON's BTP](https://icon.community/learn/btp/) (connecting Polkadot, Ethereum, Binance Smartchain, Harmony) and [COSMOS IBC](https://blog.cosmos.network/ibc-update-the-internet-of-blockchains-is-growing-fast-dae883228ebf) should ASAP. If Harmony had been using on-chain light clients this absolutely would not have happened.

Glittering-Passion17

RFOX has not only partnered with ORE, but also has the strong support of CoinGecko and ICON, showing their stability and competency.

Appropriate_Ad_5956

Lack of interest in the bank about a year ago, now earning 7.5% on a decent bag of ICX (ICON).

red_dildo_queen

ICON, the Korean Ethereum™

buzzbooz

I am here since 2017 Each bull market we have the same scenario? 2017 Chinese ethereum NEO = rekt to 0 Korean Ethereum ICON = dead trash Now we have fantom solona etc Each season they pump "Ethereum killers " then dump it on noobs believing marketing attractive words like feeless , 10,000 TPS and so on

biba8163

From the top 25 in 2018, only BTC and ETH are in profit. https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20180108/ Top 25 in 2017/18 from ATHs: - BTC +50% - ETH +35% - All others in top 25 at a loss - Only around 5 projects in the top 200 NOT at a loss (they had small marketcaps back then) - Hyped next generation best in tech projects like IOTA, EOS, ICON, OMG, Zilliqua all at -90% or worse losses - Hyped enterprises/banking/partership projects like XRP, XLM, etc all at -85% or worse losses - Hyped Bitcoin killers BCH, DASH, Nano, LTC, all at -85% or worse losses A lot of people including myself said this would happen, just look at the projects from 2013, they're all at losses or dead in 2017. The response was no, this time it's different. Cryptocurrency technology has matured, it's not a pure moneygrab play like it was before and the fact is that there are Altcoins and there are blue chip Altcoins.

tribore_resistance

I still strongly believe in South Korea's ICON (ICX)

SlaveOfTheOwner

I wouldn’t even consider IOTA, NEO or ICON big tech. If you’re implying that DOT does not have a technical advantage over other ecosystems I’d really like to hear your reasoning. I only say this because I’ve delved into the infrastructure and it’s a solid project.

Dreampopgazer

If you are going to bet on technology, bet in a bear market... That's when prices reflect the tech rather than crazy speculation. The big tech bets from the last run included IOTA, NEO and ICON. None regained their highs from 2017/18 bullrun. Anyone making a long term bet on DOTs tech at the point of paracgain locking is already more than 80% down. The recession has barely started.

buzzbooz

Same cycle of 2017 Qtum NEO ICON IOTA etc All tried to kill ethereum Founders made a decent amount of money And now bag hodlers left waiting for 2017 prices that might not come

buzzbooz

"High revenue" U guys dreaming about if my protocol does it cheaper it means it will win Eos neo qtum ICON all said the same thing and died Next u will see fantom solona avalanche on the list

TacticalSanta

But if you look back at one particular comment, the guy who was buying ICON, you'll see that if he DCA that crypto he'd be a poor bastard. So sure if you are going to DCA any cryptos go with btc or eth and if you have to do it with alts, find something newish in a bull run and get out when you see some gains.