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What's the best way to consolidate various assets and save on fees?

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Polkadot 🤝 Cosmos

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Osmosis (OSMO) Gets Listed on KuCoin!

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Cosmos airdrop strategy question

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2023 Blockchains: The Top Trends to Watch

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[SERIOUS] Binance and users pumping low market cap crypto

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Cosmos Ecosystem/IBC governance and decentralization. Cosmos may be in the process of creating the most efficient Democratic Republic Governance structure.

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What airdrops are worth it?

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$OSMO up 25%

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Alleged insider trading surrounding osmosis listing on Binance

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Binance Will List Osmosis (OSMO) in the Innovation Zone

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It's always a good thing to diversify

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Atom has moved into the Top 20 coins by market cap, why is that?

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PSA for LUNC lovers – it's currently traded at a -40% discount at Hotbit

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A guide and my views on Cosmos

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COMING SOON: Keep an eye out for Gelotto, the crypto lottery (and other games) token airdropping June 2022, going live on IBC testnet July 2022

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Unable to buy OSMO through my Trust Wallet?

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Mastering Cosmos Airdrops: The Best Coins to Stake to be Eligible, Useful Tools | JUNO, ATOM, OSMO, SCRT

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Exchange path service

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The different types of Staking explained: On-Chain Staking, Liquid Staking, and SuperFluid Staking.

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How would NOMIC work with nBTC rewards? (Cosmos Ecosystem)

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Juno Prop 16 - Righting a Wrong with a Wrong?

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So I finally bit the bullet...

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BEP20 Scam Alert

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Staking & LPs - What other ecosystems?

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Staking & LPs - In a few already - what am I missing out on?

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Osmosis Superfluid Staking TUTORIAL: step by step | ATOM/OSMO | Cosmos Ecosystem

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Superfluid Staking is now live on Osmosis.

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Stake.Tax Shout-out

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Investing in Avalanche or Cosmos

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Stakedrops in the Cosmos Ecosystem you can still stake for:

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Can we take a moment to appreciate how successful the Cosmos chain has been?

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I want to invest a "large" amount (at least large for me). What should I buy and what percentage? Want to be safe and willing to risk also.

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Juno: A new proof of stake token to power an ecosystem of cross-chain Smart Contracts network for a permissionless, fast and economical solution to deploy decentralised apps and tools.

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Why Cosmos is the best crypto ecosystem

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Staking coins - 400% APY with huahua and 80% APY with osmo

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Other ATOM staking options besides OSMO

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Have you guys seen (OSMO) coin apr that’s huge

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Have You guys Seen OSMO Coin stake apr that’s Huge

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Cosmos (ATOM) is up 16% on the 30 day, and for damn good reason

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People should check out the Cosmos ecosystem and try out the IBC, if you want infinite scalability and crazy ease of use.

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Any OSMO fans? Cosmos Connects now connects Ethereum Via the Osmosis DEX

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Stargaze claim available

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Superfluid staking explained - Why it will be a gamechanger

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This was $200 when I put it in 2 weeks ago, and OSMO was only around $4...

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Tax tool for ATOM, SOL, LUNA & OSMO

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Why Cosmos (ATOM) is Pumping

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HODLing and Maximizing Staking Potential

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Cosmos (ATOM) hits new ATH of $44.25

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There is a lot of positive sentiment permeating throughout the entire Cosmos Hub Ecosystem, I think investors are finally starting to realize that a multi-chain and interoperable internet of blockchains truly is the future.

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Osmosis (OSMO) - A coin in the top 75 that is not yet on any centralised exchange. A diamond from the Cosmos ecosystem

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🐾An actual gem, not on the Binance Shitchain. It got released not so long ago: Chihuahua ($HUAHUA) in the Cosmos Ecosystem. Check it out and thank me later!🐾

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🐾An actual gem, not on the Binance Shitchain. It got released not so long ago: Chihuahua ($HUAHUA) in the Cosmos Ecosystem. Check it out and thank me later!🐾

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COSMOS - the gift that keeps on giving!

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Q4 Terra Updates for y'all Lunatics out there

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Well, guess I'm back to investing in Ethereum

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Secret Network is live on Osmosis!

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A bit of an ATOM maximalist myself. Love the OSMO dex and all of it's goings ons.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

Something unique and positive to add to Keplr and Osmosis discussion... First, with Osmosis, a big evolution is that you can swap ATOM for another coin and pay the gas fee in Atom or vice-versa. You don't need to pay the gas fee in OSMO. This is huge. In other chains, like ETH, for example, you'll always need some ETH in your wallet to pay the gas fee. Second, with Keplr on-chain governance is incorporated right into the wallet for all the chains in the wallet. This means you can participate in governance by voting a lot easier than anywhere else. Traditionally, with ETH, you'd need to participate in governance in a unique way for each app. Maker governance and voting is different than Compound, etc. A lot of them involve setting up forum accounts and logins, etc.

Love seeing all the cosmos discussion here. By far the easiest to navigate. Get ATOM, JUNO, SCRT, or OSMO from various exchanges, create a keplr wallet and then move there. Then explore all the projects built in the cosmos SDK

Someone shilled me $8 ATOM before the OSMO airdrop in this very daily...They are a god to me now... INJ has the new 150m DEFI fund that was announced yesterday. CANTO is flying too, WYND airdrop paid off quite a bit here...SHADE PROTOCOL dropping Public Testnet in 24 hrs, mainnet on Feb 7th... Once people realize the "I" in the COSMOS IBC is for Interoperability between blockchains... [They will truly understand...](https://mapofzones.com/home?columnKey=ibcVolume&period=24h)

+1 for cosmos Easy swapping/pooling on OSMO Liquid staking Great Staking APRs Airdrops Its really nice making money every day

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Atom’s only use case is to transfer to OSMO

Mentions:#OSMO

Cosmos ATOM ! including OSMO, JUNO, STARS and EVMOS

I have ETH, ATOM, OSMO, LINK, ROSE, MOONS and an ALGO/BUTTS LP I think that a few others like MATIC will do good in the bull but I wanted a smaller portfolio

I haven’t dabbled into OSMO yet. What’s the typical APY%?

Mentions:#OSMO

Gonna get some more ATOM soon, too. Just not sure if I should stake the ATOMs or swap for OSMO and stake.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

I scrolled a bit and haven't seen anyone mention liquid staking protocols. Stride has ATOM and OSMO and I think a few others.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

I'm gonna say ATOM as well, the CosmosNetwork / Internet of Blockchains is a wonderful place; if I had to pick one token from there that wasn't ATOM, it would be Bitsong BTSG as I'm really enthused for the project/platform(s) incl. Sinfonia and the soon launching NFT platform. The airdrops you are opened to just being staked on the network in ATOM, OSMO, JUNO etc. can occassionally be pretty lifechanging (looking at Wynd in the last couple days <3 ) but others before my time got some amazing things with ION and others.

But what’s the point specifically of the OSMO token? It’s just governance. The DEX is super cool but doesn’t rely on the coin…

Mentions:#OSMO#DEX

Yeah I already hold a chunk of ATOM, just never used the cosmos ecosystem so was hoping you might have some other projects to research. I had a look into OSMO earlier actually! I don’t think it’s promising enough to make it into my DCA strategy, but I do see it going well - particularly if the market stays even or green.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

Hopefully it dips tomorrow or on monday 40% ATOM 20% each OSMO, SCRT and Huahua 😅

It's still strange hearing them talk about OSMO and Cosmos more.

Mentions:#OSMO

Yeah there’s no real equivalent to an L1. Each chain is made to be functional on its own so they are all L1s so to speak. The Cosmos Hub ($ATOM) has been called an “L0” but more so because it was the first part of the ecosystem. If ATOM disappeared the other chains would basically all function as before. They interact through the “IBC” protocol which is a bit like TCP is for the internet today, so: 1. I’m ATOM, I’d like to connect to OSMO 2. I’m OSMO, you can connect 3. I’m ATOM, I’ve opened up a channel 4. OSMO: confirmed 5. Atom: Address XXX is trying to transfer 5 ATOM over, which was temporarily locked in block YYYYYY on my chain 6. Osmo: acknowledged, proof of transfer is block ZZZZZZ on my chain 7. Acknowledged transfer. Transaction is confirmed.

Do we all think the despair and capitulation phase is slowly lifting its head from the market? If that be the case then I should really get some DCA positions on OSMO, RUNE and SYLO, these ones has been getting the gradual price movement.

I really like Cosmos and hold bags of the following: ATOM, JUNO, OSMO, STARS, HUAHUA and EVMOS (among smaller holdings of stuff I was airdropped). I feel there is a lot of potential and have liked some of the projects. Osmosis is a really good exchange, and if they can find a way to get Bitcoin over (whether bridged or native) I think it will result in some great gains. Unfortunately the bear market has decimated most from their ATH to some pretty paltry prices. Will they ever attain their previous values? Who knows, we all know shit about fuck, but I have hope for the future and see a lot more airdrops coming this year. Now I just need to remember to take some profits this time if they do go up.

Anybody hold OSMO? Does it ever move? (serious)

Mentions:#OSMO

>I'm still stacking ATOM & OSMO no blue chip?

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

IBC is revolutionary and it's going to connect all blockchain networks in the future. NGM, e-Money's governance token was what started my Cosmos journey. I've gone on to accumulate over 10 Cosmos based projects including ATOM, OSMO, JUNO, EVMOS and STARS in the last 2 years.

You should be trying to get BTC first before anything else. This sub is a good place to earn free crypto from your posts. Another means of earning crypto is by investing in and staking proof of stake coins such as ETH, ATOM, EVMOS, NGM, OSMO, FET, etc. These coins rewards stakers depending on the number of coins staked and the APY.

Are you saying ATOM or OSMO are scams because the staking APR is higher? That's the example from this post. If a coin is very early, take EVMOS for example, staking APRs are high because the network needs more coins staked for security. They don't stay high as the network grows.

GMX and OSMO are going to be very popular as more people move away from centralized exchanges. ATOM, NGM and other Cosmos based projects are also going to do very well this year.

Cosmos is the answer for me. All the blockchains in the cosmos ecosystem offer these services including ATOM. I enjoy these services on the likes of NGM, JUNO, OSMO, and more

OSMO is very frequently used in the Cosmos ecosystem. I still have high hopes for this project.

Mentions:#OSMO

This. I've done the same with OSMO (with a similar methodology for ALGO) since I believe

Mentions:#OSMO#ALGO

For me my biggest (financial) loss would have to be $OSMO. That said, I believe in both the project and it’s importance in DeFi and the cosmos ecosystem so I’ve used the bear market to lower my purchasing average and increase my holdings. Only invest in projects you believe in and then the losses don’t hurt anywhere near as much.

Mentions:#OSMO

My wish list this 2023: 1. Bull run. 2. Cosmos ecosystem growth. 3. ATOM, NGM, EVMOS, JUNO, OSMO, etc reaching new aths. 4. More adoption.

JUNO. Followed closely by OSMO. These are two of the reasons I’ve stopped buying alts. The other reasons are the other alts I’ve bought.

Mentions:#JUNO#OSMO

My biggest win came earlier this year when Cosmos ecosystem was pumping ahead of the rest of the market. I made decent gains with ATOM, OSMO, NGM and JUNO and I still have all of them staked.

My best play has to be discovering Cosmos and investing in ATOM, OSMO and NGM last year. My worst play was using Anchor Protocol.

Cosmos (ATOM) coins such as EVMOS, JUNO, NGM and OSMO are going to pump the hardest. MATIC and FET are the others I can think of.

ETH, MATIC, ATOM. Maybe add some OSMO 🤔

I'm a fan of both, and I'd say the majority of us have been. OSMO is the 2nd most used DEX on DOT after all. I'd love to see REEF connect to the IBC as well

Just Bought a big bag of ADA some BTC, DOT,ATOM, OSMO waiting till Thursday to buy a decent size bag of ETH

Why’d OSMO performing relatively poorly compared to the alt market ?

Mentions:#OSMO

Lots of the Cosmos ecosystem tokens follow a similar model which is high APY with halvings or thirding every year after the project launches. Osmosis is still fairly young so it has only halved once I believe, or maybe twice. The reasons for this are to decentralize the token supply which provides security, and because high rewards in the beginning encourage wider adoption (before there's enough transactions to provide enough rewards to stakers). OSMO is particularly inflationary because it's a DEX token, and about half of that inflation goes to liquidity rewards rather than stakers. This means that the 'expected' way to hold Osmo is in a liquidity pool, not necessarily staking it, in which case you would earn a much higher APY from it. But again, the inflation is dropping every year as the project matures. It is not a scam in any way, it's an established way to employ projects and typically people just sell staking rewards in the early days for good profit and then buy in 'for good' later on once things settle down and the project starts true price discovery.

Mentions:#OSMO#DEX

Staking APR is 23% and the airdrops for every OSMO holder this year alone have more than replaced the 17% dilution due to inflation.

Mentions:#OSMO

OSMO is one of the best dex’s out there

Mentions:#OSMO

I’ve been trying DeFi on a few different chains since early this year, and ATOM (and OSMO) have provided the most seamless and user-friendly experience for me. Not to mention I’ve been swing trading it since the bull market and it might be my top realized gain coin. ATOM’s one of my top alts for sure.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

Same, regular purchases of ATOM and OSMO for me. Still debating if I want to invest more into JUNO or not

Cosmos is my favourite layer 0. With Inter Blockchain Communication (IBC), sovereign blockchains can communicate with each other without relying on the other. The ecosystem has been growing with projects like EVMOS, JUNO, OSMO, NGM, FET and CMDX on my watchlist.

Earlier in the day, few low cap coins pumped bigly in a matter of minutes and then dumped back [OSMO did a 12x. It went from 80c to $12 and then back to 85c in a matter of mins](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjsQck3XkAAef3v.jpg) Any exchange will investigate these accounts and atleast temporarily lock the accounts behind the pump till their investigation is done

Mentions:#OSMO

OSMO vs JUNO, ION clawback, JUNO whale, JUNO clawback from said whale, what else did I miss

Founders clashing with each other, the rejection of the hyped Cosmos 2.0 upgrade, OSMO vs KUJI, just to name a few.

Mentions:#OSMO#KUJI

Groups of investors (scammers) buy little by little over weeks and promise huge profits to dumb investors... Once they've reached the amount of tokens wanted, they say "Today we pump 3000% on OSMO"... And dumb investors are stupid enough to pump it while scammers dump... Some will make a 200 or 300% profit because they'll be quick enough in buying and selling those tokens but most of them will get rekt 🤣 Is it illegal? Well, no, because no one wants regulation 😉

Mentions:#OSMO

Yesterday it was OSMO with the pump and dump. Today it was OCEAN doing something similar a couple hours ago. Where is this pump and dump group and how do I join? 😂

Mentions:#OSMO#OCEAN

What's up with the pump and dump on OSMO? Almost 3x in 30 minutes but crashed just as fast 😳

Mentions:#OSMO

OSMO plus 300 %, time to fomo..

Mentions:#OSMO

A decentralized blockchain that allows other blockchains to interact. Where decentralized storage coins/tokens can be bought/staked/pooled/swapped for others. A modular blockchain, a blockchain of blockchains. Not shilling, read up on Cosmos (ATOM), and Osmosis (OSMO).

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

There are some good ones in there, ATOM, ETH, MATIC, OSMO. All four of those who probably perform better than btc come next bull run

OSMO out here paying for lambos

Mentions:#OSMO

There are many coins that can be staked through a cold storage device as highlighted by others already. I'm staking these coins: ATOM, EVMOS, OSMO, NGM, JUNO, and other Cosmos based projects directly from my noncustodial wallet.

Whats your favorite? Mine is OSMO, i have been leaning to EVMOS before but they didn't deliver as much as i hoped when it comes to the app development. Excited to see what COMDEX will deliver especially with trading synthetics.

Mentions:#OSMO#EVMOS

I'm in it for the profit and also for the use cases. I use EEUR for international transfers and BUSD to fund my crypto card for payments. I also use Osmosis Dex for DeFi. Some of my participating liquidity pools include USDC/OSMO, NGM/OSMO and EVMOS/OSMO.

Imagine saying BlockFi is safe. The best crypto staking platforms are the ones you have full custody over your coins by staking directly through wallet. Using a wallet such as Keplr, I can stake ATOM, EVMOS, NGM, OSMO or other Cosmos based tokens, easily delegate, undelegate or redelegate the assets at any time.

That's totally wrong. I have been staking ATOM, EVMOS, JUNO, NGM, OSMO, SCRT, etc., directly from my wallet and I believe that most coins can be staked the same way.

What's the easiest way to buy Juno and OSMO?

Mentions:#OSMO

I've been thinking about adding OSMO to my crypto pile but I haven't pull the trigger yet

Mentions:#OSMO

What are you talking about, there's only one LUNA... Jokes aside, that's my portfolio before the Terra crash. Nowadays it's mostly ATOM, OSMO, RUNE and a big chunk of locked LUNA (the new one).

It's a solid bet tbh once you understand what it brings to the table. Learn about the ATOM IBC Protocol, Tendermint Consensus and COSMWASM. Staking is nice but check out what Sunny is doing with Mesh Security across the whole IBC. OSMO is the most used DEX on ATOM, everything else is DYOR territory. Beware since it's crypto winter aka Goblintown..everything is down so the folks not used to times like these are bickering about price etc. Even if the project is already doing great things and STILL building. [As far as that goes it's worth watching this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc6VY7JLXTE) where two COSMOS nerds rank EVERY project based on if they have a product. It's from last week so it's really up to date after FTX etc. This one is the shortened edit, as nobody has 5hrs to see them get drunk and dunk on vaporware.

They also helped build out the Cosmos IBC protocol. Which is why they are one of the first few tokens listed on OSMO. For that alone I am a holder.

Mentions:#OSMO

I'm really a big fan of Cosmos. I believe interoperability of Cosmos will be key to blockchain dominance in the future. ATOM, EVMOS, JUNO, NGM, OSMO, SCRT and CMDX are some of my favourite Cosmos based projects.

I don't know why anyone would prefer to stake their coins on a centralised exchange with everything happening. My favourite staking platform is Keplr app for staking ATOM, EVMOS, NGM, JUNO, OSMO, SCRT and other Cosmos based projects.

Price activity has been non-predictable, so waiting is essential to avoid liquidations, yes. This bear market is absolutely offering people like me who started early 2020 the opportunity to acquire a lot, and my approach is based on DCAs, staking tokens with decent amount of APRs say OSMO, RIDE, ZPAY, and more whilst waiting for the market to resume its rise.

Cosmos is my favourite blockchain network. Building on Cosmos is a smart move because Cosmos allows for application specific soveriegn blockchains to be built on it. Some of my favourite Cosmos based projects beside ATOM are: - EVMOS which is bridging Ethereum dApps into Cosmos. - JUNO an interoperable smart contract platform. - NGM a stablecoins payment platform. - OSMO the interchain Dex.

Just jump on over to Cosmos, stake ATOM and OSMO directly from your Kepler wallet and stop trusting centralized services.

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO

Damn I almost don't want to tell my fellow Redditors about one of the top avatar artists announcing not only an NFT airdrop but a burn too. But that one of their only releases for 2022, has a mere "supply" of 33. Their Reddit S2 [Faceless Avatar](https://opensea.io/collection/spooky-season-stuttervoid-x-reddit-collectible-ava?search[query]=faceless&search[sortAscending]=true&search[sortBy]=UNIT_PRICE) has a Floor of .5 ETH today with 150-ish supply. Their 1st edition release Diamond Diablo is ranked in [3rd place](https://www.redditfloor.com/) on RedditFloor with a floor 4ETH... [TODAY they announced](https://twitter.com/stutterxx/status/1597286086228684800) they will be burning any remaining un-minted copies on Friday out of their 13/33 series. AND that this piece will qualify for an airdrop. Like they announced with their Reddit Avatars as well. Keeping it a secret would be wise for my pocket to keep the supply low, but without this chat I would have never known to stake ATOM for the OSMO airdrop. So I do my best to pay it back with news like the above.

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Holding and staking to increase my bag before the next bear summer. I have ATOM, NGM, EVMOS, JUNO, OSMO, and many other Cosmos based projects staked. The APYs vary from 20% to 135% which is very good.

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Layer 0's exist; like Cosmos and Polkadot. It allows multiple L1 blockchains to be launched (like in the case of Cosmos, there's ATOM, OSMO, JUNO, etc.)

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Definitely wortb checking out, OSMO was listed on Binance earlier this month but most people use ATOM to add liquidity and be able to trade between other Cosmo assets such as OSMO, Evmos, Juno, Secret, stars. Also if you add liquidity to any pool with OSMO you can use superfluid staking to stake the OSMO portion of the pool and receive additional OSMO. Check out r/cosmosnetwork and r/osmosiszone

Mentions:#OSMO#ATOM
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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z3yh86/daily_general_discussion_november_25_2022_gmt0/).

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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z3yh86/daily_general_discussion_november_25_2022_gmt0/).

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z3yh86/daily_general_discussion_november_25_2022_gmt0/).

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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z34qab/daily_general_discussion_november_24_2022_gmt0/).

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I agree with you. Personally I stake most of my coins which include ATOMZ EVMOS, JUNO, NGM, OSMO, etc., using Keplr wallet which is a Cosmos and IBC based wallet. I have sole access to my staked coins and I can undelegate/redelegate at any time.

r/CryptoMarketsSee Comment

The only problem with this is that you don't own the staked ETH and stETH is not real ETH. This is why I mostly stake Cosmos based coins because there's no minimum cap. Delegating ATOM, EVMOS, NGM, OSMO, etc., for staking rewards is very simple with any IBC or Cosmos based wallet. This year has taught me "not your keys, not your tokens".

r/CryptoCurrencySee Comment

Staking ATOM is very lucrative. Apart from the staking rewards, you also qualify for potential airdrops in the process. Some of the previous airdops like OSMO, JUNO, STARS and EVMOS were worth thousands. I have all of them staked in addition to NGM, CRE, REBUS, CMDX, etc.

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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/z1empq/daily_general_discussion_november_22_2022_gmt0/).

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Although you can delegate the $ATOM on your Keplr wallet to a validator and still retain control of them, pls ensure that you choose a validator that is outside the Top 10 in order to be eligible for airdrops. Apparently, Nomic - bringing trustless BTC to the cosmos - completely discounted any $ATOM, $EVOMS, or $OSMO that were delegated in the top 20!

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Most projects on Cosmos have been doing well in terms of building and expanding. Take a look at the likes of EVMOS, NGM, JUNO, etc. E-money is featuring new NGM staking options with the latest being Superfluid staking on Osmosis. Super Fluid staking directly increases the opportunity for NGM and OSMO token holders and validators to earn rewards, as tokens can simultaneously earn transaction fees from providing pool liquidity and earn staking rewards for helping to secure the network.

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I prefer staking as a form of passive income. I have ATOM, EVMOS, NGM, JUNO, OSMO and many other coins staked for decent rewards. I have no doubt it will pay off once the market is back to being bullish.

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Waiting to buy some ETH ,ADA,ATOM,OSMO

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Cosmos remains my favourite blockchain ecosystem. I have many Cosmos coins, I bought some and earned the rest via aidrops. My favourites are ATOM, EVMOS, JUNO, NGM, OSMO, CMDX and SCRT.

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I use Osmosis too because of low fees and high yields. It's the only Dex I know with $0 transaction fees. Liquidity mining rewards are very good on the DEX especially pools with superfluid staking enabled such as EVMOS/OSMO, USDC/OSMO, NGM/OSMO, WBTC/OSMO, EEUR/OSMO, and so on.

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Whadup it's ya boi...you're favorite SCRT shill It's my favorite project on the Cosmos ecosystem. If you're OG enough it was known as Enigma (ENG) on ETH back in the day. They moved to the Cosmos IBC in early 2021 afaik. It has partnered with Tarantino and [Kevin Smith](https://scrt.network/blog/secret-deep-dive-unlocking-web3-movies-with-secret-nfts) in 2021 for private NFTs. It has a private DEFI swap / lending coming soon thanks to [Shade Protocol](https://shadeprotocol.io/). There's Two other swaps already operating on the network as well. You can turn most IBC tokens into privacy tokens via their [wrap tool](https://wrap.scrt.network/). BNB / ETH and XMR [bridges](https://bridge.scrt.network/) which are getting re-worked for added privacy / performance soon. It's doing great now but they're doing so much more [SOON](https://forum.scrt.network/t/secret-2-0-the-next-generation-request-for-feedback/6607) ^(tm) Awesome NFT features thanks to [how SCRT works](https://twitter.com/ReedCulver/status/1572446882030571522) Tons of other PriFi (Private Finance) DAOs and apps airdropping in [Q1](https://twitter.com/BlizzardFin/status/1593280226464874496) [Crazy low cap gems like Button Swap](https://thecoinperspective.com/compare/buttcoin-2) which is an [aggregate swap](https://btn.group/secret_network/button_swap) to find you the best deal. It's just became fully IBC enabled in October so I hope to see it checking OSMO and KUJI soon!

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my favorite DEX to use by far is Osmosis on Cosmos. User interface is clean and simple, you can now use super fluid staking which allows you to stake the OSMO you add to liquidity pools.

Mentions:#DEX#OSMO
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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yxakfo/daily_general_discussion_november_17_2022_gmt0/).

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I've never used a lending platform before for yields. Proof of stake chains like ATOM, NGM, JUNO and OSMO where I can stake and manage my assets from my wallet are my only source of yields right now.

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I watched it go to the $9 range just as fast in 2021s hype cycle...The SCRT ecosystem has so many low cap / micro supply gems nobody knows about...maybe they're TOO SCRT hehe.... [Shade Protocol](https://shadeprotocol.io/) (Offers Liquid Staking Derivatives, Bonds...Private Swap and over-collateralized stablecoin called SILK coming soon. [10M Total, 550k Circulating, 25% staked in bonds afaik.](https://thecoinperspective.com/compare/shade-protocol) [Button Swap](https://btn.group/secret_network/button_swap) \- Aggregated Swap between Secret Swap and Sienna Swap (both on SCRT), I'd assume more Cosmos swaps will be added now that SCRT has COSMWASM support. Currently exploring working on the OSMO chain too. [27.8M Total, 15M Circulating](https://thecoinperspective.com/compare/buttcoin-2?vs=bitcoin) \- Also has a 74% APR wBTC pool.

Mentions:#SCRT#OSMO
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I'm bonded into a WETH/OSMO pool for a very small portion of my portfolio. I hold both of these assets anyway, so my only real risk is the Axelar bridge getting hacked and my WETH being worthless. If that happens I'll just click my tongue and shake my head - it won't affect my life in any meaningful way.

Mentions:#WETH#OSMO
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Just started opening positions my first positions on the Cosmos net, looking to build a core staked position in ATOM, JUNO, AKT, and OSMO, and then maybe branch out to some others down the line.

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Why do you think OSMO?

Mentions:#OSMO
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nobody else has mentioned it so I'm going to have to ATOM, OSMO and FTT ^(classic)

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2024, my Gen 1 Reddit Digital collectibles are going for 1 eth floor, my staked ATOM has given me dozens of free air drops and OSMO is now worth $20

Mentions:#ATOM#OSMO
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Heh, There's orphaned LUNC on the Osmosis DEX. Meaning it will never leave the exchange. Someone created a LUNC/OSMO pool with **8%** trading fees. When LUNC pumps folks degen into it. I've made so much from this pool over the past few months it's stupid.

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#Cosmos Con-Arguments Below is an argument written by MrMoustacheMan which won 1st place in the Cosmos Con-Arguments topic for a prior [Cointest](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_policy) round. > #Cosmos Con Argument > > - *Disclaimer: ATOM currently makes up ~1-2% of my portfolio. Including Cosmos related projects like OSMO, JUNO, etc. or projects built on Tendermint like BNB, LUNA, CRO, then it's more like 5%.* > > - While I wrote about the benefits of a [hub and spoke model](https://v1.cosmos.network/images/intro/06-architecture.svg) in the [Cosmos Pro thread](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yl2/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_proarguments_november/), different development models/architecture have different tradeoffs (e.g., [Cathedral vs. Bazaar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar), [empire vs nation states](https://www.finder.com.au\/brave-new-worlds-cosmos-blockchain-and-social-evolution), [different blockchain types](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockchain#Types), or even [DAGs](https://np.reddit.com/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_dag)). > > - **TLDR**: The overarching focus of Cosmos is on interoperability - but a priority on connecting everything together doesn't necessarily benefit the development or utility of ATOM itself. It's natural for developers to disagree on their vision for a decentralized, open source project and some may even regard that as a positive. But infighting is bad for optics and there are certain aspects of ATOM's tokenomics that may limit its value within the 'Internet of Blockchains'. > > ##Team entropy > > - In February 2020, fighting within the Cosmos team lead to a [shakeup of talent](https://decrypt.co/19769/zaki-manian-cosmos-number-two-resigns) and a [restructuring of the companies involved in developing the project](https://messari.io/article/amid-multiple-departures-cosmos-core-contributor-tendermint-inc-restructures-the-company). > > - Former Tendermint director [Zaki Manian accused founder Jae Kwon of neglecting Cosmos by instead working on a side project, Virgo](https://decrypt.co/18324/tendermint-director-accuses-cosmos-founder-of-evading-responsibility). > > - Some (including Jae), regarded the 'break up' as a [move towards decentralization](https://gist.github.com/jaekwon/7cb869769aecf9c86bfd1b9e61c488df). > > - Zaki (in a now deleted tweet) [disagreed with the decentralization claim and pointed to delays in development, turnover and under-resourcing of the Cosmos project](https://web.archive.org/web/20200207134418/https://twitter.com/zmanian/status/1224384772677390336). Others [reported a toxic environment for engineers](https://twitter.com/jessysaurusrex/status/1224417773620588545). > > - Amidst this backdrop of 'he said, she said' the fact is that core developers like to work on their own pet projects: > > - I'm not sure if Virgo is still a thing, but [Jae Kwon stepped down to work on a Gno project](https://twitter.com/jaekwon/status/1360867477572493313?s=28). Zaki went on to [work on Iqlusion and Sommelier](https://www.linkedin.com/in/zmanian/) while Sunny Aggarwal [started Osmosis and Sikka](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sunnya97/). > > > > ##Project entropy > > - The [community tends to dismiss devs fighting as FUD](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/r2zhz0/its_a_fud_hit_piece_and_makes_me_sick/). And one could argue that developers shifting to work on other projects is a 'value add' to the ecosystem rather than a detriment to work on Cosmos. > > - I'm not so sure - and I think a related example is actually the main products these teams worked on, [Cosmos SDK](https://v1.cosmos.network/sdk) and [Tendermint](https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/tendermint-explained). > > - In the Pro thread I highlighted how many popular projects such as BNB, CRO and LUNA have been built using these tools. > > - Many of those coins now [have a higher marketcap than ATOM - but, beyond displaying their total value](https://cosmos-cap.com/) under one umbrella there isn't a 'trickle down effect' whereby growth in CRO impacts the value of ATOM. > > - This is a function of the Cosmos design decision to [retain the sovereignty of each connecting chain](https://juliankoh.medium.com/5-differences-between-cosmos-polkadot-67f09535594b). Unlike Polkadot or ETH, a rising tide in the Cosmos ecosystem *doesn't necessarily* lift all boats: > > - Polkadot parachains use DOT's security. Ethereum tokens use ETH as gas. But projects in the Cosmos ecosystem are not 'locked in' to using ATOM. > > - [Transactions fees on the Cosmos Hub do not necessarily need to be paid in ATOM](https://cryptoseq.medium.com/cosmos-atom-token-and-the-commonly-misunderstood-staking-tokens-part-three-958c295c5b78). > > - In the absence of a [shared security model](https://blog.cosmos.network/interchain-security-is-coming-to-the-cosmos-hub-f144c45fb035), all the [connected zones and hubs today](https://mapofzones.com/?period=720&testnet=false&tableOrderBy=totalIbcTxs&tableOrderSort=desc) continue to use their own native tokens rather than enhancing the value of ATOM. So, to go back to developer projects, [Osmosis can post growing liquidity and transaction volume](https://info.osmosis.zone/) but the DEX usage doesn't directly benefit ATOM. > > - So while the Cosmos Hub has been crucial to promoting interoperability, in the future it might not remain the economic center of an 'Internet of Blockchains' but instead get supplanted by one of its 'children'. > > - Jae Kwon spoke to this point years ago, [indicating his support for competition between hubs rather than locking users into Cosmos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OAulsLeDI0&t=749s). > > - And the centrality of ATOM seems to be the subtext of recent [dev arguments over 'Cosmos' nomenclature](https://np.reddit.com/r/cosmosnetwork/comments/scye0t/sunnys_constant_attacks_on_the_cosmos_hub/), with [calls to rebrand](https://twitter.com/sunnya97/status/1486031900925784066). > > - Where Cosmos *does* lock in users is with staking: > > - [ATOM uses a high token inflation rate to ensure a high staking participation. Users who don't stake their ATOM get essentially penalized by inflation, as the value of their holdings is diluted over time](https://medium.com/swlh/what-are-the-flaws-of-the-cosmos-and-how-to-tackle-them-6c114f4f3bd7). > > - This is obviously not beneficial for holders of smaller stacks and/or users who want to retain liquidity without being locked in to the 21-day unbonding period. ***** Would you like to learn more? [Click here](/r/CointestOfficial/comments/qk4yls/coin_inquiries_round_cosmos_conarguments_november/) to be taken to the original topic-thread or you can scan through the [Cointest archive](/r/CointestOfficial/wiki/cointest_archive#wiki_Cosmos) to find arguments on this topic in other rounds. Since this is a con-argument, what could be a better time to promote the Skeptics Discussion thread? You can find the latest thread [here](/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/yuj5a2/daily_general_discussion_november_14_2022_gmt0/).

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I did grabbed some ETH, ATOM, ADA ,CRO ,OSMO and of course BTC